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BoxerLvr User ID: 884837 Puerto Rico 08/11/2012 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A couple relevant Videos. WISE didn't find a Brown Dwarf any closer than around 13 Light Years [link to en.wikipedia.org] Note all the References & External links. Quoting: TBar1984 High Def version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwcnsBf8Ue4 WISE Finds Few Brown Dwarfs Close to Home: [link to www.jpl.nasa.gov] Pan-STARRS is capable of detecting an Earth sized object out to around 600 AU. This is much further away than Planet X & Nibiru are reported to be. High Def version: www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EHdkpoZ9As The PS1 Science Consortium: [link to www.ps1sc.org] Tbar, post that video of Dr. Lorenzo's response to the conspiracy theorists who are using his paper as proof of nibiru. It is precisely because it is fashionable for Americans to know no science, even though they may be well educated otherwise, that they so easily fall prey to nonsense. They thus become part of the armies of the night, the purveyors of nitwittery, the retailers of intellectual junk food, the feeders on mental cardboard, for their ignorance keeps them from distinguishing nectar from sewage. Isaac Asimov |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1630445 08/11/2012 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm. Your not a Dr. Dr dip shit is a more suitable name. Your apparently against this. Yet isn't science based off theory? You have started your claims of no nibiru. Using the fact that other planets would be proturbed. As well as our own planet. Yet, if there is a nibiru, its always been there. So that's like trying to say gravity does not exist. Yet its always been here. You ridicule anyone who believes there is this planet. Yet, you don't seem to do it for the faith in astronomy. Your passion to ridicule is stronger then any passion of truth. There are more signs of something going on in outter space then there are not. even the ancients seem to believe in this. Id believe ancients any day over you and your handelers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3461001 United States 08/11/2012 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I told Astro last night that I am starting to agree that Nibiru, if exists, is nowhere near us right now. Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803 If it is indeed a brown dwarf/red dward sub-class star and it's supposed to be here in weeks - WE WOULD SEE IT. Astro is correct there. His insistence that the binary scenario is IMPOSSIBLE does raise a red flag. I know PHDs too you know, several of them. I have mentioned these friends on here before, and they always say NEVER SAY NEVER when it comes to science. Especially space. His "confidence" that we are on top of all space threats doesn't sit well with me. Call it a hunch, whatever. I agree though, if he really thinks this is bullshit, we does he persist? It cannot be just to correct people and hear himself type? If so, that says volumes. |
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Poriwoggu User ID: 6678126 United States 08/11/2012 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Moons orbit Wrong according to Cornell University associate Lorenzo Lorio. He has researched the mystery and he is sure! Because of public outcry & observations made by myself, my friends, Visitors & others on the Internet and concluded that indeed there Is something wrong with The Sun Moon & Earth. Taking into account a possible Planet X Saying, A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object like Planet X Cornell University tells us that Quote: On the anomalous secular increase of the eccentricity of the orbit of the Moon. The present-day models of the dissipative phenomena occurring in the interiors of both the Earth and the Moon are not able to explain it. A recent analysis ( Prior1st Feb 2011 (Netlethe) ) of a Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR) data record spanning 38.7 yrs, revealed an anomalous increase of the eccentricity of the lunar orbit. A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object (Planet X/Nemesis/Tyche) since it, actually, would affect e with a non-vanishing long-term variation. Unquote. Quoting: strategicdiscernment Look it up it is published online. Sorry gotta go to work ill post link later [link to www.youtube.com] Email from Dr. Iorio Dear Sir, unfortunately, all the online blogs arbitrarily using my papers in support to their ravings completely and totally misrepresent them. Suffice it to say that they invoke a Cornell University research, which I would be affiliated to!!! They are not even able to ascertain that, actually, I am NOT affiliated with Cornell University!! Now, you tell me that they sorted out an "anomalous tilting of the Moon's axis" so huge to be detectable by naked eyes or so. Of course, the "sources" of their claims are....internet photos and videos!! It has nothing to do with the minuscule orbital anomaly I discussed, which has, by no means, any macroscopic influence here on the Earth, of course. Not to say about Planet X, explicitly ruled out by me, at least as a cause of the lunar anomaly! It is really incredible to me how they can state exactly the contrary!!! Likely, they will continue to see other "anomalies" since they have decided in advance that something strange is out there: given that they want to see something, they certainly will see all they want to see. At this point, it is not a scientific problem, but just a social, psychological, pathological and psychiatric one Regards, Lorenzo Iorio Last Edited by Poriwoggu on 08/11/2012 01:16 PM Poriwoggu |
Edge Rider User ID: 1377922 United States 08/11/2012 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is she the woman that claims a connection to the Gray Aliens?...Could be someone else I heard about... Quoting: Settle4It Lieder is credited as the originator of the Nibiru theory. grays from the zeta retculi star system implanted a communication device in her head and told her about nibiru... Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream... [link to en.wikipedia.org] / [link to www.youtube.com] |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 21217730 United States 08/11/2012 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His insistence that the binary scenario is IMPOSSIBLE does raise a red flag. Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803 I'm really blue in the face from saying this, but once again, there could be a brown dwarf orbiting at oort cloud distances, it's just unlikely. Odds are there isn't one, but there could be. There is not, however, a brown dwarf or any other kind of star anywhere near the inner solar system, nor is there any such object making regular passes into the inner solar system on a highly elliptical orbit; such an object would severely perturb the planets' orbits and we'd be in a chaotic solar system with moderately high eccentricities for all the planets. I never said the "binary scenario" was impossible however. I explicitly said it was possible: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
DrumrDude User ID: 21083803 United States 08/11/2012 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What worries me, is that there may indeed be an object coming in, but it is nothing like the scenarios we have been discussing. What if it is just a REALLY fast moving asteroid, in the ballpark of 80,000 miles an hour coming from behind the sun? What I also told Astro last night is that I cannot ignore the world governments doing their preparations. The Russians admit that they are building bunkers, won't say exactly what for, but admit nonetheless that they are rapidly building them. The Norway seed vault. All the infrared scopes that were built in the Antarctic, sent up into space by all countries that could afford one. These are preps' that we cannot ignore. There is a threat from space they are anticipating, we can all clearly see that by the draconian laws that have been passed along with the preparations being taken worldwide. Tsunami drills on coasts around the world, different continents. These are unprecedented events. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3461001 United States 08/11/2012 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I only took an intro astronomy class, so my statement is more of a question. But we haven't had Infared telescopes for every long and dwarf planets and even more so sub-dwarf planets have a very low luminosity... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3461001 But they reflect sunlight. Eris as you may know is about the same size as pluto, yet even it reflects enough light to be detected. I understand we could determine it's existance based on the blocking of visual light of other objects. Quoting: ACActually such a massive object at such a close distance (even 100 AUs isn't far for something with the mass of jupiter or greater) that we would have long since known about it from its gravitational effects. Even the hypothetical planet X had a semi-major axis of about 100 AU and only 4 times earth's mass. |
Reality420 User ID: 19327440 United States 08/11/2012 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm. Your not a Dr. Dr dip shit is a more suitable name. Your apparently against this. Yet isn't science based off theory? You have started your claims of no nibiru. Using the fact that other planets would be proturbed. As well as our own planet. Yet, if there is a nibiru, its always been there. So that's like trying to say gravity does not exist. Yet its always been here. You ridicule anyone who believes there is this planet. Yet, you don't seem to do it for the faith in astronomy. Your passion to ridicule is stronger then any passion of truth. There are more signs of something going on in outter space then there are not. even the ancients seem to believe in this. Id believe ancients any day over you and your handelers. Do your knuckles bleed from dragging them on the ground so much? R. Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. — Thomas Jefferson Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action. — Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
ShillsRUs User ID: 11648091 United States 08/11/2012 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greetings: Quoting: ST In BG "Nibiru" ... Is NOT ... A "Brown Dwarf" !! It IS ... An Ancient Sirian ... Hollowed Out Planet ... Larger Then The Planet Jupiter ... In The Sol Solar System !! There Is No Life On The Surface !! Beneath The Surface ... Which Was Hollowed Out ... Long Of Your Ago ... Reside Representatives Of Many Beings/Species ... From Many Worlds, Galaxies, Universes, Dimensions, Elsewhere ... Who Work Together ... Live Together ... Sharing & Cooperating ... In Joint Ventures ... To Create, Promote, Enhance Life & Lifeforms !! The Planet Has It's Own Unique Orbit ... Of Which It May Stay In This ... "Figure 8" Elipitical Orbit ... Or It May Leave This When Necessary ... When There Is A Need For The Presense Of This World ... This Traveling Vessel ... & It's Peoples !! We Said This Was Not Just A World (Hollowed Out) ... But A Traveling Vessel ... An Independant Plantary Space Ship ... Which Can & Is ... Programmed ... To Be Where It Is & Needs To Be !! Nibiru Has The Ability ... Both Naturally & Artifically ... To Cloak ... To Be Invisible ... To Detection !! The World/Space Vessel Of Nibiru ... Has (8) Satellties/Moons ... Which May Be To The Sides ... Or Follow Behind ... Like Baby Ducks !! Of Nibiru's Inbound Approach ... This Takes It Through An Asteroid Belt ... Of Which Asteroids, Meteorities, Meteors, Space Debris, Ect. ... Are Attracted To It ... & Are Pulled Along For The Ride !! Of An Example Of "Science" ... Which Was Turned Into Religion & Used For More ... Of A "Candlestick Holder" ... We Present You With The Object Called ... The Menorah (Hanukkah) [link to en.wikipedia.org] Of This ... If You Will Scroll Down ... The 3rd & 4th Pictures On The Right Hand Side ... Show This Menorah ... Which Is Repesenting ... Nibiru & It's 8 Satellites/Moons !! ... Nibiru Being The Larger "Ball" In The Middle ... & To Each Side (4) Smaller "Balls" (A Total Of (8) ... Which Are It's Moons !! ... In Effect This Menorah ... Is More A "Planetary Mobile" Of Sorts ... Depicting It's Own Independant System !! Farewell For Now !! ST In BG Hello! Can you enlighten us as to when Nibiru/people inside Nibiru, might show their presence? Join the STinBGTards at the following thread if you want to join thier daily circle jerk: Thread: ++I AM A EXTRA TERRESTRIAL++ ASK ME A QUESTION AND I WILL RESPOND++ Have Fun. |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 21217730 United States 08/11/2012 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, actually, I am. Your apparently against this. Yet isn't science based off theory? You have started your claims of no nibiru. Using the fact that other planets would be proturbed. As well as our own planet. Yet, if there is a nibiru, its always been there. So that's like trying to say gravity does not exist. Yet its always been here. Quoting: ACIf Nibiru were there we'd see its gravitational effects. Do you know how we discovered Neptune? We saw its gravitational effects and predicted where it would be. It had always been there, but with an understanding of orbital mechanics and the masses of the planets you can detect any perturbers that are out there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3461001 United States 08/11/2012 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His insistence that the binary scenario is IMPOSSIBLE does raise a red flag. Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803 I'm really blue in the face from saying this, but once again, there could be a brown dwarf orbiting at oort cloud distances, it's just unlikely. Odds are there isn't one, but there could be. There is not, however, a brown dwarf or any other kind of star anywhere near the inner solar system, nor is there any such object making regular passes into the inner solar system on a highly elliptical orbit; such an object would severely perturb the planets' orbits and we'd be in a chaotic solar system with moderately high eccentricities for all the planets. I never said the "binary scenario" was impossible however. I explicitly said it was possible: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 21217730 United States 08/11/2012 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I only took an intro astronomy class, so my statement is more of a question. But we haven't had Infared telescopes for every long and dwarf planets and even more so sub-dwarf planets have a very low luminosity... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3461001 But they reflect sunlight. Eris as you may know is about the same size as pluto, yet even it reflects enough light to be detected. I understand we could determine it's existance based on the blocking of visual light of other objects. Quoting: ACActually such a massive object at such a close distance (even 100 AUs isn't far for something with the mass of jupiter or greater) that we would have long since known about it from its gravitational effects. Even the hypothetical planet X had a semi-major axis of about 100 AU and only 4 times earth's mass. There's a long history behind that, which really belongs to another thread: Thread: Robert Harrington's Planet X Does Not Exist |
Dr. Astro (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 21217730 United States 08/11/2012 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Moons orbit Wrong according to Cornell University associate Lorenzo Lorio. He has researched the mystery and he is sure! Because of public outcry & observations made by myself, my friends, Visitors & others on the Internet and concluded that indeed there Is something wrong with The Sun Moon & Earth. Taking into account a possible Planet X Saying, A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object like Planet X Cornell University tells us that Quote: On the anomalous secular increase of the eccentricity of the orbit of the Moon. The present-day models of the dissipative phenomena occurring in the interiors of both the Earth and the Moon are not able to explain it. A recent analysis ( Prior1st Feb 2011 (Netlethe) ) of a Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR) data record spanning 38.7 yrs, revealed an anomalous increase of the eccentricity of the lunar orbit. A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object (Planet X/Nemesis/Tyche) since it, actually, would affect e with a non-vanishing long-term variation. Unquote. Quoting: strategicdiscernment Look it up it is published online. Sorry gotta go to work ill post link later [link to www.youtube.com] Email from Dr. Iorio Dear Sir, unfortunately, all the online blogs arbitrarily using my papers in support to their ravings completely and totally misrepresent them. Suffice it to say that they invoke a Cornell University research, which I would be affiliated to!!! They are not even able to ascertain that, actually, I am NOT affiliated with Cornell University!! Now, you tell me that they sorted out an "anomalous tilting of the Moon's axis" so huge to be detectable by naked eyes or so. Of course, the "sources" of their claims are....internet photos and videos!! It has nothing to do with the minuscule orbital anomaly I discussed, which has, by no means, any macroscopic influence here on the Earth, of course. Not to say about Planet X, explicitly ruled out by me, at least as a cause of the lunar anomaly! It is really incredible to me how they can state exactly the contrary!!! Likely, they will continue to see other "anomalies" since they have decided in advance that something strange is out there: given that they want to see something, they certainly will see all they want to see. At this point, it is not a scientific problem, but just a social, psychological, pathological and psychiatric one Regards, Lorenzo Iorio Thank you! I thought of that email, but couldn't remember where to find it. Thanks for posting it! |
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**ZetaMax** User ID: 21695517 United States 08/11/2012 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm. Your not a Dr. Dr dip shit is a more suitable name. Your apparently against this. Yet isn't science based off theory? You have started your claims of no nibiru. Using the fact that other planets would be proturbed. As well as our own planet. Yet, if there is a nibiru, its always been there. So that's like trying to say gravity does not exist. Yet its always been here. You ridicule anyone who believes there is this planet. Yet, you don't seem to do it for the faith in astronomy. Your passion to ridicule is stronger then any passion of truth. There are more signs of something going on in outter space then there are not. even the ancients seem to believe in this. Id believe ancients any day over you and your handelers. >> I'd believe ancients any day over you and your handlers. Last Edited by **ZetaMax** on 08/11/2012 01:19 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1535998 Puerto Rico 08/11/2012 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is she the woman that claims a connection to the Gray Aliens?...Could be someone else I heard about... Quoting: Settle4It Lieder is credited as the originator of the Nibiru theory. grays from the zeta retculi star system implanted a communication device in her head and told her about nibiru... I see...wow...and she has a lot of followers?...lol...ok...thanks again! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14117924 Netherlands 08/11/2012 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok so you are an expert in "spacethings". I saw an interview the other day about the rings of Saturn. What do you know about the rings of Saturn? He also said that on another planet (think it was Jupiter) we didnt have rings but they popped up all of a sudden. |
DrumrDude User ID: 21083803 United States 08/11/2012 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His insistence that the binary scenario is IMPOSSIBLE does raise a red flag. Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803 I'm really blue in the face from saying this, but once again, there could be a brown dwarf orbiting at oort cloud distances, it's just unlikely. Odds are there isn't one, but there could be. There is not, however, a brown dwarf or any other kind of star anywhere near the inner solar system, nor is there any such object making regular passes into the inner solar system on a highly elliptical orbit; such an object would severely perturb the planets' orbits and we'd be in a chaotic solar system with moderately high eccentricities for all the planets. I never said the "binary scenario" was impossible however. I explicitly said it was possible: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Astro, I was trying to convey a possibility, that is all. A binary in which the two swing towards each other, speeding up as they get closer to each other. There is no way you can claim with 100% certainty that this is an impossible scenario for us to contend with - even with the corrected ratios you gave us for our solar system. Not saying it is anywhere near us right now, but insisting that our sun is solo, when we have only been observing it a few hundred years is a tad arrogant. Listen Astro. Before 2001, people used to say that terrorists could never hijack planes and crash them into buildings - effectively scaring Americans so bad that they allowed their government to completely tear up their constitution and change the very way of life our founding fathers intended us to live. I and many others would have never believed it if you would have told us before hand. This is the same deal, never say never. If steel frame buildings can fall from fire exposure, in which thousands of engineers say BS- then we could possibly have a binary that is waaaaay out there. |
Edge Rider User ID: 1377922 United States 08/11/2012 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the gravitational effects of a binary system would be observable. no gravitational effect, no binary system. Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream... [link to en.wikipedia.org] / [link to www.youtube.com] |
ShillsRUs User ID: 11648091 United States 08/11/2012 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His insistence that the binary scenario is IMPOSSIBLE does raise a red flag. Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803 I'm really blue in the face from saying this, but once again, there could be a brown dwarf orbiting at oort cloud distances, it's just unlikely. Odds are there isn't one, but there could be. There is not, however, a brown dwarf or any other kind of star anywhere near the inner solar system, nor is there any such object making regular passes into the inner solar system on a highly elliptical orbit; such an object would severely perturb the planets' orbits and we'd be in a chaotic solar system with moderately high eccentricities for all the planets. I never said the "binary scenario" was impossible however. I explicitly said it was possible: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Astro, I was trying to convey a possibility, that is all. A binary in which the two swing towards each other, speeding up as they get closer to each other. There is no way you can claim with 100% certainty that this is an impossible scenario for us to contend with - even with the corrected ratios you gave us for our solar system. Not saying it is anywhere near us right now, but insisting that our sun is solo, when we have only been observing it a few hundred years is a tad arrogant. Listen Astro. Before 2001, people used to say that terrorists could never hijack planes and crash them into buildings - effectively scaring Americans so bad that they allowed their government to completely tear up their constitution and change the very way of life our founding fathers intended us to live. I and many others would have never believed it if you would have told us before hand. This is the same deal, never say never. If steel frame buildings can fall from fire exposure, in which thousands of engineers say BS- then we could possibly have a binary that is waaaaay out there. If I am not mistaken....Astro did not say Never - I believe he put the probability at 9% that a binary system exists. Next question. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1314371 United States 08/11/2012 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His insistence that the binary scenario is IMPOSSIBLE does raise a red flag. Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803 I'm really blue in the face from saying this, but once again, there could be a brown dwarf orbiting at oort cloud distances, it's just unlikely. Odds are there isn't one, but there could be. There is not, however, a brown dwarf or any other kind of star anywhere near the inner solar system, nor is there any such object making regular passes into the inner solar system on a highly elliptical orbit; such an object would severely perturb the planets' orbits and we'd be in a chaotic solar system with moderately high eccentricities for all the planets. I never said the "binary scenario" was impossible however. I explicitly said it was possible: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Astro, I was trying to convey a possibility, that is all. A binary in which the two swing towards each other, speeding up as they get closer to each other. There is no way you can claim with 100% certainty that this is an impossible scenario for us to contend with - even with the corrected ratios you gave us for our solar system. Not saying it is anywhere near us right now, but insisting that our sun is solo, when we have only been observing it a few hundred years is a tad arrogant. Listen Astro. Before 2001, people used to say that terrorists could never hijack planes and crash them into buildings - effectively scaring Americans so bad that they allowed their government to completely tear up their constitution and change the very way of life our founding fathers intended us to live. I and many others would have never believed it if you would have told us before hand. This is the same deal, never say never. If steel frame buildings can fall from fire exposure, in which thousands of engineers say BS- then we could possibly have a binary that is waaaaay out there. FFS, Astro DIDN'T say it was impossible. Quit LYING. He said the chance of our Sun having a binary was about 9%...if I recall correctly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1692914 United States 08/11/2012 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO ..... THE nut is back, and his loyal/paid (?) followers wonder why there are few 'tards' opposing his 'claims' ! They have all been banned ..... ? First of all, it is possible to turn a picture of Saturn in ANY direction, and CLAIM which way is 'North', etc.' AS ALREADY POSTED, why would people many thousands of years ago chisel in STONE their observations/history of FACTS ? So some nut can claim because it is posted on a conspiracy form by a ( heaven forbid ! ) NON astronomer; it MUST BE lies? The conspiracy IS GLP ! |
DaNose User ID: 21716289 United States 08/11/2012 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Moons orbit Wrong according to Cornell University associate Lorenzo Lorio. He has researched the mystery and he is sure! Because of public outcry & observations made by myself, my friends, Visitors & others on the Internet and concluded that indeed there Is something wrong with The Sun Moon & Earth. Taking into account a possible Planet X Saying, A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object like Planet X Cornell University tells us that Quote: On the anomalous secular increase of the eccentricity of the orbit of the Moon. The present-day models of the dissipative phenomena occurring in the interiors of both the Earth and the Moon are not able to explain it. A recent analysis ( Prior1st Feb 2011 (Netlethe) ) of a Lunar Laser Ranging (LLR) data record spanning 38.7 yrs, revealed an anomalous increase of the eccentricity of the lunar orbit. A potentially viable Newtonian candidate would be a trans-Plutonian massive object (Planet X/Nemesis/Tyche) since it, actually, would affect e with a non-vanishing long-term variation. Unquote. Quoting: strategicdiscernment Look it up it is published online. Sorry gotta go to work ill post link later [link to www.youtube.com] Email from Dr. Iorio Dear Sir, unfortunately, all the online blogs arbitrarily using my papers in support to their ravings completely and totally misrepresent them. Suffice it to say that they invoke a Cornell University research, which I would be affiliated to!!! They are not even able to ascertain that, actually, I am NOT affiliated with Cornell University!! Now, you tell me that they sorted out an "anomalous tilting of the Moon's axis" so huge to be detectable by naked eyes or so. Of course, the "sources" of their claims are....internet photos and videos!! It has nothing to do with the minuscule orbital anomaly I discussed, which has, by no means, any macroscopic influence here on the Earth, of course. Not to say about Planet X, explicitly ruled out by me, at least as a cause of the lunar anomaly! It is really incredible to me how they can state exactly the contrary!!! Likely, they will continue to see other "anomalies" since they have decided in advance that something strange is out there: given that they want to see something, they certainly will see all they want to see. At this point, it is not a scientific problem, but just a social, psychological, pathological and psychiatric one Regards, Lorenzo Iorio Indeed The truth is the truth even if no one believes it and a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3461001 United States 08/11/2012 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the gravitational effects of a binary system would be observable. no gravitational effect, no binary system. Quoting: Edge Rider [link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov] |
ethzero User ID: 21712831 Australia 08/11/2012 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the gravitational effects of a binary system would be observable. no gravitational effect, no binary system. Quoting: Edge Rider [link to imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov] Yes, but not with a solar system like ours. The chances of our solar system being a binary system is actually pretty high considering it's the rule rather than the exception, but if it was on any kind of orbit which would bring it as close as Pluto or so, we'd have noticed it a LONG time ago simply by comparing planetary orbits. Last Edited by ethzero on 08/11/2012 01:44 PM |
DrumrDude User ID: 21083803 United States 08/11/2012 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | His insistence that the binary scenario is IMPOSSIBLE does raise a red flag. Quoting: DrumrDude 21083803 I'm really blue in the face from saying this, but once again, there could be a brown dwarf orbiting at oort cloud distances, it's just unlikely. Odds are there isn't one, but there could be. There is not, however, a brown dwarf or any other kind of star anywhere near the inner solar system, nor is there any such object making regular passes into the inner solar system on a highly elliptical orbit; such an object would severely perturb the planets' orbits and we'd be in a chaotic solar system with moderately high eccentricities for all the planets. I never said the "binary scenario" was impossible however. I explicitly said it was possible: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Astro, I was trying to convey a possibility, that is all. A binary in which the two swing towards each other, speeding up as they get closer to each other. There is no way you can claim with 100% certainty that this is an impossible scenario for us to contend with - even with the corrected ratios you gave us for our solar system. Not saying it is anywhere near us right now, but insisting that our sun is solo, when we have only been observing it a few hundred years is a tad arrogant. Listen Astro. Before 2001, people used to say that terrorists could never hijack planes and crash them into buildings - effectively scaring Americans so bad that they allowed their government to completely tear up their constitution and change the very way of life our founding fathers intended us to live. I and many others would have never believed it if you would have told us before hand. This is the same deal, never say never. If steel frame buildings can fall from fire exposure, in which thousands of engineers say BS- then we could possibly have a binary that is waaaaay out there. If I am not mistaken....Astro did not say Never - I believe he put the probability at 9% that a binary system exists. Next question. ShillsRus, I didn't know that Astro admitted that, even at 9% - that is the possibility that I was talking about. The serious studying that I have done into celestial mechanics can make your head spin, but is absolutely necessary - you can weed through most of these threads and shoot them down like Astro does if you are educated. However, like I have mentioned tons of times before : the world governments ARE prepping for something celestial or geological. You cannot deny the evidence - it is everywhere, all over the globe. Like I also say, this is not happening from us driving SUV's like Al Gore says. I think my 9/11 analogy hit it out of the park if I may say so myself, NEVER SAY NEVER to anything, if you are indeed a scientist. That is all. |
DaNose User ID: 21716289 United States 08/11/2012 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO ..... THE nut is back, and his loyal/paid (?) followers wonder why there are few 'tards' opposing his 'claims' ! They have all been banned ..... ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1692914 First of all, it is possible to turn a picture of Saturn in ANY direction, and CLAIM which way is 'North', etc.' AS ALREADY POSTED, why would people many thousands of years ago chisel in STONE their observations/history of FACTS ? So some nut can claim because it is posted on a conspiracy form by a ( heaven forbid ! ) NON astronomer; it MUST BE lies? The conspiracy IS GLP ! You know in the short time I have been a member here (about 2 years), I think I have seen atleast 5 different dates nibiru was supposed to come through and kill us all. There has always been the "believers" and "debunkers" divide. I find it ironic how it is always the believers who like to call the debunkers shills and by my count I do believe the debunkers have been right each and every damn time. The believers haven't even been sorta right...EVER..about ANYTHING. Isn't a shill supposed to be someone who gets paid to LIE? Who's doing the lying?? I am starting to think it is the Neebooboo turds who are the shills. Seems like they are awefully determined to distract people from what the real issues might be. Just a thought The truth is the truth even if no one believes it and a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it! |