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Nibiru Analysis *Jupiter analysis on page 20*

 
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Begging and doing back flips for the Saturday crowd now hey. They just discovered that JUPITOR IS CHANGING ITS ORBIT. Now isn't that interesting. I wonder what is causing it to do this. I'm not saying it Planet X or Nibiru or even Sirius. We are entering into the DARK RIFT. Lineing up to THE CENTER OF THE GALAXY. Lots of ENERGY in the RIFT. I think you better start being more flexible with your nothing can change. Nothing has changed. Impossible stance about everything. Cause right before your eyes things are changeing. Thats the Facts. Your still in denial about everything. The natives know somthings wrong, somthings up and things ARE CHANGEING. FACE THE FACTS.
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Dude where did you get this from? More info please.
 Quoting: The Dudester


He's talking about the stupid youtube video I debunked here:

Side note, we're currently above the galactic plane and are currently headed away from it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Again the astotard... no... we not headed away from the galactic plane.

I mean i dont think there is going to be any 2012 catastrophe or something but on the 21 Dec the earth will be crossing the galactic plane.

lol first time i see a back yard astronomer wanna be calling himself Dr. amusing.
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"Scientific studies indicate that the solar system lies several dozen light-years north of the galactic plane. What's more, we are continuing to travel northward, away from the plane of our Milky Way galaxy, at some 7 kilometers per second. Therefore, we won't be physically passing through the galactic plane in 2012 or anytime in the near future.": [link to earthsky.org]
2012 Phenomenon - Other alignments: "Evidence shows that the Sun passed through the plane bisecting the galactic disc only three million years ago and is now moving farther above it...": [link to en.wikipedia.org]
The Sun's motion perpendicular to the galactic plane: [link to www.nature.com]
The Galactic Alignment: [link to www.youtube.com]

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Again the astotard... no... we not headed away from the galactic plane.
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Yes, we are.
"The UVW velocities calculated using the method of Eggen (1961) are subjected to an additional coordinate rotation to transform each star’s space velocity into the galactocentric non-rotating cylindrical frame (Vpi, Vtheta, Vz). In this frame of reference, Vπ is the radial motion of the star relative to the galactic center. A positive Vpi is directed away from the galactic center. Vtheta is the rotational velocity component, orthogonal to Vpi in the galactic plane. Vtheta is positive in the direction of galactic rotation. Lastly, Vz is the velocity of the star perpendicular to the galactic plane, where a positive Vz is going towards the North Galactic Pole (NGP) . The coordinate transformation assumes that the Sun is 8kpc from the galactic center and moving relative to that point with the velocity (Vpi, Vtheta, Vz) = (-9 km/s, 232 km/s, 7 km/s).
[link to edocs.uis.edu (secure)]

We have a positive vertical velocity relative to the galactic plane and our current position is about 20 parsecs (about 65 light years) above the plane:
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]

I mean i dont think there is going to be any 2012 catastrophe or something but on the 21 Dec the earth will be crossing the galactic plane.
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No, we will not.
lol first time i see a back yard astronomer wanna be calling himself Dr. amusing.
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I have my PhD.
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sorry, I havent read all the thread but, so your saying Astro, that without doubt, absolute fact, that theres no nibiru, no dark star, no whatever it may be at all?


Absolute fact?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788508


"No whatever"? You can't demand that some undefined thing be proven not to exist. Define "Nibiru", SPECIFICALLY.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


haha. why Nibiru? why not PlanetX? Why not Nemesis?
People call "whatever it is" many names, seemingly getting them all mixed up meaning the same thing in the end..something that is a potential threat to planet earth of this nature..so thats what Im asking, Astro seems to think that there are none of "whatever it may be" threats or that none exists..well, mabey he might say Nemesis, but he will most likely say, "if so it would never have any effect on earth"..just sayin'.
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Hey Astro,

Care to comment on DA14? The meteor (?) to be the closest to impact earth since recording?
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 Quoting: Dr. Astro


This is really interesting, and I haven't gotten all the way through it yet, but I'm referring to the asteroid/meteor that is expected to miss Earth, but pass closer than our satellites distance to Earth, in March of 2013. I think this said early on a date of 2040.
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Yes, this is that asteroid.
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Hey Astro,

Care to comment on DA14? The meteor (?) to be the closest to impact earth since recording?
 Quoting: Schlotzsky



 Quoting: Dr. Astro


This is really interesting, and I haven't gotten all the way through it yet, but I'm referring to the asteroid/meteor that is expected to miss Earth, but pass closer than our satellites distance to Earth, in March of 2013. I think this said early on a date of 2040.
 Quoting: Schlotzsky


Yes, this is that asteroid.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Oh, I thought I heard in the video something about the year 2040?
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 Quoting: Dr. Astro


This is really interesting, and I haven't gotten all the way through it yet, but I'm referring to the asteroid/meteor that is expected to miss Earth, but pass closer than our satellites distance to Earth, in March of 2013. I think this said early on a date of 2040.
 Quoting: Schlotzsky


Yes, this is that asteroid.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Oh, I thought I heard in the video something about the year 2040?
 Quoting: Schlotzsky


Oops, wrong video, my bad. Meant this one:

Apologies for the shitty mic on this one.
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sorry, I havent read all the thread but, so your saying Astro, that without doubt, absolute fact, that theres no nibiru, no dark star, no whatever it may be at all?


Absolute fact?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788508


"No whatever"? You can't demand that some undefined thing be proven not to exist. Define "Nibiru", SPECIFICALLY.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


haha. why Nibiru? why not PlanetX? Why not Nemesis?
People call "whatever it is" many names, seemingly getting them all mixed up meaning the same thing in the end..something that is a potential threat to planet earth of this nature..so thats what Im asking, Astro seems to think that there are none of "whatever it may be" threats or that none exists..well, mabey he might say Nemesis, but he will most likely say, "if so it would never have any effect on earth"..just sayin'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788508


It doesn't matter what you call it. It matters how you DEFINE it. YOU have to define what YOU are asking about. No one can, or is going to, or HAS said, that nothing(undefined) exists which might affect Earth. No one can prove a negative. Care to try again? DEFINE what you are asking about, so that it's more than text on a page.
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Asrto,
did you get your phd from the Nancy Lieder institute for Zeta gifted shills? Get a life dud!
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Asrto,
did you get your phd from the Nancy Lieder institute for Zeta gifted shills? Get a life dud!
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No. I have a life, and a PhD, which is more than I can say for you.
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What's going on?

If Niburu was spotted now wouldn't we all be dead by the time it got here?

I think it's appropriate to pass this fear onto future generations so they can prepare or not.

This is pinned again, isn't it?
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Get a doctorate and spend all day on GLP. Makes sense
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This is really interesting, and I haven't gotten all the way through it yet, but I'm referring to the asteroid/meteor that is expected to miss Earth, but pass closer than our satellites distance to Earth, in March of 2013. I think this said early on a date of 2040.
 Quoting: Schlotzsky


Yes, this is that asteroid.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Oh, I thought I heard in the video something about the year 2040?
 Quoting: Schlotzsky


Oops, wrong video, my bad. Meant this one:

Apologies for the shitty mic on this one.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



Thanks for this video, it explains a lot. However, I do have a follow up question in regards to the moon. How can the assumption be that there is not threat for it to hit the moon? From what I understood, the video assumed the date of assumed impact, and looking at the position of the moon on that day, it looked like it could have a pretty close encounter with the moon in the days prior depending on the actual position of the moon. Could you explain this a bit further for me?

Also, I've got to ask. What's your PhD in? I haven't read anywhere in which you say that. Just wondering because if its in anything other than astrology or physics or any type of related field, how did you become so invested/interested in space?
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Get a doctorate and spend all day on GLP. Makes sense
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So you're freely admitting this site is not for smart people?
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Get a doctorate and spend all day on GLP. Makes sense
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All day? No, but I do like to make it look that way. Strikes fear into the heart of my enemy, lest they post bullshit. Seriously though, some of us have a strange, sick idea of the word "vacation." Don't worry though, that will soon be over and you'll be free to post bullshit and then remark how I must have headed to a bunker since I'm not responding right away anymore.
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Yes, this is that asteroid.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Oh, I thought I heard in the video something about the year 2040?
 Quoting: Schlotzsky


Oops, wrong video, my bad. Meant this one:

Apologies for the shitty mic on this one.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



Thanks for this video, it explains a lot. However, I do have a follow up question in regards to the moon. How can the assumption be that there is not threat for it to hit the moon? From what I understood, the video assumed the date of assumed impact, and looking at the position of the moon on that day, it looked like it could have a pretty close encounter with the moon in the days prior depending on the actual position of the moon. Could you explain this a bit further for me?
 Quoting: Schlotzsky

The line of potential positions of the asteroid never intersects the moon.
Also, I've got to ask. What's your PhD in? I haven't read anywhere in which you say that. Just wondering because if its in anything other than astrology or physics or any type of related field, how did you become so invested/interested in space?
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Science, that's all I'm at liberty to say or else it would be far too easy to track me down. There are very few who do what I do where I live. Where I live has a lot to do with why I became interested in astronomy and space.
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Hey Astro,

Care to comment on DA14? The meteor (?) to be the closest to impact earth since recording?
 Quoting: Schlotzsky


[link to earthsky.org]
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Hey Astro,

Care to comment on DA14? The meteor (?) to be the closest to impact earth since recording?
 Quoting: Schlotzsky


[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
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It will soon be over says Astro, probably because Niburu is sneaking up on us as we type. Over and Out, WindyMInd
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sorry, I havent read all the thread but, so your saying Astro, that without doubt, absolute fact, that theres no nibiru, no dark star, no whatever it may be at all?


Absolute fact?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788508


"No whatever"? You can't demand that some undefined thing be proven not to exist. Define "Nibiru", SPECIFICALLY.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


haha. why Nibiru? why not PlanetX? Why not Nemesis?
People call "whatever it is" many names, seemingly getting them all mixed up meaning the same thing in the end..something that is a potential threat to planet earth of this nature..so thats what Im asking, Astro seems to think that there are none of "whatever it may be" threats or that none exists..well, mabey he might say Nemesis, but he will most likely say, "if so it would never have any effect on earth"..just sayin'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788508


It doesn't matter what you call it. It matters how you DEFINE it. YOU have to define what YOU are asking about. No one can, or is going to, or HAS said, that nothing(undefined) exists which might affect Earth. No one can prove a negative. Care to try again? DEFINE what you are asking about, so that it's more than text on a page.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


WTF are you carrying on about idiot? chill out.
I wasnt even addressing you originally. Your acting like Astros defense lawyer. Now go fuck off.
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Oh, I thought I heard in the video something about the year 2040?
 Quoting: Schlotzsky


Oops, wrong video, my bad. Meant this one:

Apologies for the shitty mic on this one.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



Thanks for this video, it explains a lot. However, I do have a follow up question in regards to the moon. How can the assumption be that there is not threat for it to hit the moon? From what I understood, the video assumed the date of assumed impact, and looking at the position of the moon on that day, it looked like it could have a pretty close encounter with the moon in the days prior depending on the actual position of the moon. Could you explain this a bit further for me?
 Quoting: Schlotzsky

The line of potential positions of the asteroid never intersects the moon.
Also, I've got to ask. What's your PhD in? I haven't read anywhere in which you say that. Just wondering because if its in anything other than astrology or physics or any type of related field, how did you become so invested/interested in space?
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Science, that's all I'm at liberty to say or else it would be far too easy to track me down. There are very few who do what I do where I live. Where I live has a lot to do with why I became interested in astronomy and space.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro




Someone just posted this thread Thread: 2012 DA14 NASA diagram show's negative distance!!!

and had a link for it being negative distance away. What does that entail?
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All day? No, but I do like to make it look that way. Strikes fear into the heart of my enemy, lest they post bullshit. Seriously though, some of us have a strange, sick idea of the word "vacation." Don't worry though, that will soon be over and you'll be free to post bullshit and then remark how I must have headed to a bunker since I'm not responding right away anymore.
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LOL - Truth.
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Oops, wrong video, my bad. Meant this one:

Apologies for the shitty mic on this one.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



Thanks for this video, it explains a lot. However, I do have a follow up question in regards to the moon. How can the assumption be that there is not threat for it to hit the moon? From what I understood, the video assumed the date of assumed impact, and looking at the position of the moon on that day, it looked like it could have a pretty close encounter with the moon in the days prior depending on the actual position of the moon. Could you explain this a bit further for me?
 Quoting: Schlotzsky

The line of potential positions of the asteroid never intersects the moon.
Also, I've got to ask. What's your PhD in? I haven't read anywhere in which you say that. Just wondering because if its in anything other than astrology or physics or any type of related field, how did you become so invested/interested in space?
 Quoting: sch

Science, that's all I'm at liberty to say or else it would be far too easy to track me down. There are very few who do what I do where I live. Where I live has a lot to do with why I became interested in astronomy and space.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro




Someone just posted this thread Thread: 2012 DA14 NASA diagram show's negative distance!!!

and had a link for it being negative distance away. What does that entail?
 Quoting: Schlotzsky


2.0x10^-4 AU is not negative distance. That is scientific notation for 0.0002 AU or about 30,000 km. The java applet he got that from is not nearly as accurate as the program I used above. It's only a 2-body solution of the orbit and it specifically says not to use it for planetary encounter circumstances.
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"No whatever"? You can't demand that some undefined thing be proven not to exist. Define "Nibiru", SPECIFICALLY.
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haha. why Nibiru? why not PlanetX? Why not Nemesis?
People call "whatever it is" many names, seemingly getting them all mixed up meaning the same thing in the end..something that is a potential threat to planet earth of this nature..so thats what Im asking, Astro seems to think that there are none of "whatever it may be" threats or that none exists..well, mabey he might say Nemesis, but he will most likely say, "if so it would never have any effect on earth"..just sayin'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788508


It doesn't matter what you call it. It matters how you DEFINE it. YOU have to define what YOU are asking about. No one can, or is going to, or HAS said, that nothing(undefined) exists which might affect Earth. No one can prove a negative. Care to try again? DEFINE what you are asking about, so that it's more than text on a page.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


WTF are you carrying on about idiot? chill out.
I wasnt even addressing you originally. Your acting like Astros defense lawyer. Now go fuck off.
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In other words, you won't or can't define it.
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You guys have all lost your minds. There are no planets. It's a trick don't fall for it.
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"No whatever"? You can't demand that some undefined thing be proven not to exist. Define "Nibiru", SPECIFICALLY.
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haha. why Nibiru? why not PlanetX? Why not Nemesis?
People call "whatever it is" many names, seemingly getting them all mixed up meaning the same thing in the end..something that is a potential threat to planet earth of this nature..so thats what Im asking, Astro seems to think that there are none of "whatever it may be" threats or that none exists..well, mabey he might say Nemesis, but he will most likely say, "if so it would never have any effect on earth"..just sayin'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788508


It doesn't matter what you call it. It matters how you DEFINE it. YOU have to define what YOU are asking about. No one can, or is going to, or HAS said, that nothing(undefined) exists which might affect Earth. No one can prove a negative. Care to try again? DEFINE what you are asking about, so that it's more than text on a page.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


WTF are you carrying on about idiot? chill out.
I wasnt even addressing you originally. Your acting like Astros defense lawyer. Now go fuck off.
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I'm writing in English. I don't care who you were addressing "originally". He can answer you if he wishes to. Since you are putting words he never said in his mouth, maybe he won't bother- I've certainly had it done to me plenty of times. Here is some of what you wrote specifically to me:

"...all mixed up meaning the same thing in the end..."

If by that you mean some vague, non-defined, deep-space bogey man who people say is going to wreak havoc on Earth at some point, you would be right. However, there are certain definitions which can or have been applied to certain of those putative objects. Pick one, or your question is absurd from the outset.
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Although my skeptical side applauds Dr Astro for his scientific analysis of Nibiru there is way to much info out their indicating that this thing is coming in and the governments have been preparing for this since the 80`s.

Either way something is going to happen the bible says in revalations that something like a mountain will hit the water etc etc..

Possibly from the debris field surrounding Nibiru. Interesting times indeed, what makes it more intriguing is the fact there was going to be a 3 part film about the Annunaki (Dudes that live on Nibiru) and it was buried. Heres the link about it if anyone is interested.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Although my skeptical side applauds Dr Astro for his scientific analysis of Nibiru there is way to much info out their indicating that this thing is coming in and the governments have been preparing for this since the 80`s.

Either way something is going to happen the bible says in revalations that something like a mountain will hit the water etc etc..

Possibly from the debris field surrounding Nibiru. Interesting times indeed, what makes it more intriguing is the fact there was going to be a 3 part film about the Annunaki (Dudes that live on Nibiru) and it was buried. Heres the link about it if anyone is interested.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19412151


You mean there have been a bunch of stories and vague info spun, skewed, and misrepresented over the years by people who promote the "Planet X" hoax.

There is a "debris field" surrounding this alleged rogue planet? Why would you think such a silly thing? Oh, I know... Nancy Lieder said so... Of course, Nancy also says that Earth stopped orbiting the sun in 2003- you believe that nonsense too?





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