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The Civil War of 2016: U.S. military officers are told to plan to fight Americans

 
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U.S. military officers are told to plan to fight Americans


The Washington Times
Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.

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There are 216 million armed Mercans.
There is 500,000 in the entire armed forces.

That means a ratio of 1 armed force to 432 Mercans. Each soldier would have to off 432 Mercans who will rip the shit out of the soldiers.

Get a clue.
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UN and NATO Soldiers... Get a clue.
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mind boggling everyone doesn't give this 5 stars. Especially on here. But this site surprises me sometimes, the things people blow off or aren't interested in.
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funny they picked the Tea Party instead of the Black Panthers, or the Unions, or Occupy movement. Real funny ain't it?
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Shoot at them with your guns, they'll fire grenades at you.

If you throw grenades at them, they will launch a missile at you.

If you launch a missile at them they will drop a GPS guided small diameter bomb on you from 25,000 feet.

You have no chance.
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rofl so true
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U.S. military officers are told to plan to fight Americans


The Washington Times
Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.

[link to www.washingtontimes.com]
 Quoting: Americans = Terrorists 21597997



There are 216 million armed Mercans.
There is 500,000 in the entire armed forces.

That means a ratio of 1 armed force to 432 Mercans. Each soldier would have to off 432 Mercans who will rip the shit out of the soldiers.

Get a clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967845


Wow. Good job distilling a situation like this down to numbers.

What you forgot to mention is that "each soldier" is better armed and better trained than 99% of the 432 'mercans."

They have tactical support: aircraft, tanks, rocket launcher, drones, attack helicopters.

I think you're the one who needs to get a clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4704954

And a massive surveillance network that can track and monitor everything you do. And the ability to manipulate and control the press.
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No fucking way our troops ever fire on us, are you fucking nuts?

Would have to be mass brain washing and just no way, they'd have to use foreign troops.

Which military vet have you met that was like, yeah I'll kill the people of the country I'm made to defend?

Way to much smoke in this thread

Where's the fucking mirror?
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they will follow orders.
the training the military's been getting has been radical.
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I have to agree with this.

The people in the Military are not the same patriotic god fearing, American loving people of the past. They sure are not the hero's of WWII.

What we have now are liberal minded, paycheck hungry, OWS supporting, entitlement mindsets, and they will kill you for what ever sumbitch convinced them they are right.
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No fucking way our troops ever fire on us, are you fucking nuts?

Would have to be mass brain washing and just no way, they'd have to use foreign troops.

Which military vet have you met that was like, yeah I'll kill the people of the country I'm made to defend?

Way to much smoke in this thread

Where's the fucking mirror?
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I could not agree more. One of the friends I mention here quite often is an Iraq vet, an officer in the US Amry, and an ROTC college commandant.

He told me, off the record, the US military knows for a fact that fewer than 15% of their troops would fire on their own countrymen.
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No fucking way our troops ever fire on us, are you fucking nuts?

Would have to be mass brain washing and just no way, they'd have to use foreign troops.

Which military vet have you met that was like, yeah I'll kill the people of the country I'm made to defend?

Way to much smoke in this thread

Where's the fucking mirror?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14899339

It's all just a matter of brainwashing and declaring selected groups the "enemy". I'm quite sure it'd work, and not only in the USA. People who voluntarily join an army believe in government, orders and top-down power structures. It's easy to manipulate those people into killing their own. It's just a matter of systematic brainwashing. At the point where groupthing has successfully been installed in them ("We're the good guys, they're the enemy"), they're ready to kill.
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EDITORIAL: The Civil War of 2016
U.S. military officers are told to plan to fight Americans


The Washington Times
Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.

[link to www.washingtontimes.com]
 Quoting: Americans = Terrorists 21597997



There are 216 million armed Mercans.
There is 500,000 in the entire armed forces.

That means a ratio of 1 armed force to 432 Mercans. Each soldier would have to off 432 Mercans who will rip the shit out of the soldiers.

Get a clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967845


The US military is the best equiped and best trained military force in the world. Compare this to a militia group that is not trained nor well equiped with modern weapons and night fighting training. The only group that can defeat our military is the political establishment or the military itself through internal fighting. This would not be like the Revolutionary War or the Civil War. It would be a blood bath with most of it coming from the civilians.
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EDITORIAL: The Civil War of 2016
U.S. military officers are told to plan to fight Americans


The Washington Times
Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.

[link to www.washingtontimes.com]
 Quoting: Americans = Terrorists 21597997



There are 216 million armed Mercans.
There is 500,000 in the entire armed forces.

That means a ratio of 1 armed force to 432 Mercans. Each soldier would have to off 432 Mercans who will rip the shit out of the soldiers.

Get a clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967845


Wow. Good job distilling a situation like this down to numbers.

What you forgot to mention is that "each soldier" is better armed and better trained than 99% of the 432 'mercans."

They have tactical support: aircraft, tanks, rocket launcher, drones, attack helicopters.

I think you're the one who needs to get a clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4704954


I think YOU need a clue.

What fucked up US Forces in Iraq?

Regular army?

No...

guerrilla warfare.

And unlike islamist fundamentalist tards, most Americans that have guns can actually hit a target.
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If you want to call a little over 4000 troops "fucked up" then go for it.

last I checked Iraq is a smoking pile of rubble with hundreds of thousands dead.

I don't care how well you can shoot, a fucking predator missile will end your day quick. Just two or three warthogs, apache longbow attack helos or a spectre gun ship will dominate any battle field.

Yeah approximately 216 million people have guns. How many of those are battle trained soldiers who have actually fired a shot in anger?
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They had better hope they can kill off the entire town quickly, shut down the entire media, cut off coms with people outside who have relatives there (before they rise up not during the cleanup), and keep that up forever.

Such a stupid move would ignite the powder keg that starts the second american revolution. You think everyone outside the beltway is gonna hear about this and think its cool the federal govt is doing such a good job servicing them? No they gonna grab their bag and their gun and get the fuck down there to fight for freedom. The ones who dont or cant will materially and idealogically support the ones who do.

As a test balloon, this article fails. And if FEDGOV thinks its gonna bluff anyone into losing this information war by sitting by in fear while our freedoms continue to be attacked by the 1871 FORIEGN OCCUPYING BANKSTER "GOVT" tyrants, they need to get a pulse about the current state of america. Get out of your narrow anaristic autocratic little reality tunnel/ terrestial ego little me and do some real analysis. Get outside of the beltway, go to cookouts, parties, anything not sponsored by corporate media/radio and talk to the locals from here to montana. Things are not what they seem. The snake is coiled.
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funny they picked the Tea Party instead of the Black Panthers, or the Unions, or Occupy movement. Real funny ain't it?
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Because Tea Partiers have guns unlike Occupy protesters, and they are the only ones who OPENLY talk about revolting or starting a civil war like it is a badge of friggen honor.

What do you expect the government to dot? Ignore a potential threat to national security?
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funny they picked the Tea Party instead of the Black Panthers, or the Unions, or Occupy movement. Real funny ain't it?
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Because Tea Partiers have guns unlike Occupy protesters, and they are the only ones who OPENLY talk about revolting or starting a civil war like it is a badge of friggen honor.

What do you expect the government to dot? Ignore a potential threat to national security?
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Just exactly IS "national security"?

Is it the security of the American people, or is it the security of the "government" in Washington?

I've always been a little confused on this point.
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funny they picked the Tea Party instead of the Black Panthers, or the Unions, or Occupy movement. Real funny ain't it?
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Because Tea Partiers have guns unlike Occupy protesters, and they are the only ones who OPENLY talk about revolting or starting a civil war like it is a badge of friggen honor.

What do you expect the government to dot? Ignore a potential threat to national security?
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Who is the government protecting? The People of the United States of America or foreign interests that are destroying this country?

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That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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EDITORIAL: The Civil War of 2016
U.S. military officers are told to plan to fight Americans


The Washington Times
Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.

[link to www.washingtontimes.com]
 Quoting: Americans = Terrorists 21597997



There are 216 million armed Mercans.
There is 500,000 in the entire armed forces.

That means a ratio of 1 armed force to 432 Mercans. Each soldier would have to off 432 Mercans who will rip the shit out of the soldiers.

Get a clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967845


Wow. Good job distilling a situation like this down to numbers.

What you forgot to mention is that "each soldier" is better armed and better trained than 99% of the 432 'mercans."

They have tactical support: aircraft, tanks, rocket launcher, drones, attack helicopters.

I think you're the one who needs to get a clue.
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Won't have that stuff very long when the people take it from them.
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“Slowly, every police department in the United States, at the behest of the Department of Homeland Security [DHS], is being trained by Israeli groups. As part of this training, there is an increased move to use of military uniforms, armored vehicles, heavy weapons, illegal surveillance, lying to the people, press and courts and systematic interference in the electoral system,” Gordon Duff wrote in an article on Press TV website.


Duff further explained that, “Every major American city and most smaller departments, and there are thousands, are being ‘retrained,’ not to fight corruption but being armed for civil war, trained to work directly with military personnel to police America in accordance with unpublished policies ...


He also stated that all the terrorist acts that happen in the US involve the American law enforcement, which “recruit terrorists or carefully remove key suspects”.

“What careful analysis indicates is that the groups that are training our police are, if not exactly the same, are closely related to groups suspected of being terrorists themselves, providing support for terrorists in Africa and the Middle East,” Duff concluded.
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U.S. military officers are told to plan to fight Americans


The Washington Times
Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.

[link to www.washingtontimes.com]
 Quoting: Americans = Terrorists 21597997



There are 216 million armed Mercans.
There is 500,000 in the entire armed forces.

That means a ratio of 1 armed force to 432 Mercans. Each soldier would have to off 432 Mercans who will rip the shit out of the soldiers.

Get a clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967845


UN and NATO Soldiers... Get a clue.
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yes and most Mercans can kill at least 5-6 soldier before being taken out! a grandma recently defended herselves against 5 attackers she killed them all!
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funny they picked the Tea Party instead of the Black Panthers, or the Unions, or Occupy movement. Real funny ain't it?
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Because Tea Partiers have guns unlike Occupy protesters, and they are the only ones who OPENLY talk about revolting or starting a civil war like it is a badge of friggen honor.

What do you expect the government to dot? Ignore a potential threat to national security?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9664906


Just exactly IS "national security"?

Is it the security of the American people, or is it the security of the "government" in Washington?

I've always been a little confused on this point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21597997


The premise is putting down a small minority group that would revolt, and not be supported by the majority of the American people, and therefore endanger the peace and public safety of the American people.

The Tea Party is a minority, and an unpopular minority at that, even among Republicans. If you believe otherwise, you are delusional. The Republican party considers them to be a cancer that is doing nothing but drag them down right now. I can't help you if your memory is too short to remember the mess they made of the primaries.
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EDITORIAL: The Civil War of 2016
U.S. military officers are told to plan to fight Americans


The Washington Times
Tuesday, August 7, 2012

Imagine Tea Party extremists seizing control of a South Carolina town and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.

[link to www.washingtontimes.com]
 Quoting: Americans = Terrorists 21597997



There are 216 million armed Mercans.
There is 500,000 in the entire armed forces.

That means a ratio of 1 armed force to 432 Mercans. Each soldier would have to off 432 Mercans who will rip the shit out of the soldiers.

Get a clue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967845


The US military is the best equiped and best trained military force in the world. Compare this to a militia group that is not trained nor well equiped with modern weapons and night fighting training. The only group that can defeat our military is the political establishment or the military itself through internal fighting. This would not be like the Revolutionary War or the Civil War. It would be a blood bath with most of it coming from the civilians.
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yet after 10 years we can't beat a bunch of peasants with AK-47's in Afghanistan.....
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Yeah approximately 216 million people have guns. How many of those are battle trained soldiers who have actually fired a shot in anger?
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Listen up, fuck stick... if it is Civil War then it is to the death. It will be horrific, bloody, and hundreds of thousands if not several millions will die. And the United States Military will, forever, be seen a as treasonous bunch of mercenary bastards that should be spit on and shot if possible FOREVER by the American People. It will be FOREVER WAR and the military will lose because a Guerrilla War will last for 30 to 50 years if necessary. We'll fucking kill till we are free again and this time we'll be coming for TPTB personally because we know exactly who they are. This will be like the Trojan war and we'll send heroes on guerrilla missions until every single "power that be" asshat who thinks he's going to run the world and step on Mercans is DEAD. There is no army in the world that is going to dominate Americans EVER. Ain't going to happen with conventional means. Your only hope is to kill everyone in the Northern Hemisphere with a radioactive hydrogen weapon war... and then our Southern brothers will continue until TPTB are DEAD.



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funny they picked the Tea Party instead of the Black Panthers, or the Unions, or Occupy movement. Real funny ain't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21588151


Because Tea Partiers have guns unlike Occupy protesters, and they are the only ones who OPENLY talk about revolting or starting a civil war like it is a badge of friggen honor.

What do you expect the government to dot? Ignore a potential threat to national security?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9664906


Dumbfuck -- listen here: "National Security" today means TPTB, who have made themselves above the law by their own corruption and treachery, are kept safe while you grunts die in a poppy field in the middle of nowhere Afghanistan.

National Security in WW2 mean that the fascists who would kill your wife and daughter needed killing.

You're a whore for the New World Order.

Get a fucking clue, you dumbfuck.
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...the US military is finished.


U.S. Military Suicide Rate Now Likely Double or Triple Civil War’s



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I will say the same thing I said last night in a thread I posted about this.

This makes me ROFLMAO.

Our military are a bunch of fatties, a bunch of portly, Xbox addicts that can't do shit without their little drone toys and laser beams.

I don't think they'll have an easy time with a bunch of lean, pissed off rednecks with a cause. If it comes to that, they won't fair any better than any vast gerrymandering Goliath of a military has fared against determined and resourceful foes.

Yes, the militia guys are sort of laughable, but if they really rally up the 'average' American conservative, men and women working as doctors, nurses, engineers, working on oil rigs, welders, ranchers, plumbers, trades and business people of all sort. People who work hard and play hard. Hunt, fish, run triathlons, kickbox, shoot, work with their hands. They won't have a shot in hell.

A bunch of illegals looking for citizenship and fat ass high school bullies aren't going to do much good. Furthermore, two-thirds of the US military would desert.
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the problem is, the civilians are unorganized individuals, so even if you have five lean sharp shooter rednecks in a family, you can't fight 100 fatty toy-touting soldiers.

when they take care of this house they move to the next. They can do this all day long as long as salary and benefit won't stop. It's impossible for a civilian to voluntarily open fire at the soldiers to help their neighbor out. Next thing they know, it's your turn.

They don't even need to divide and conquer, citizens are already divided like grains of sand and with a flick of the switch people can't even communicate in modern means any more. Yes soldiers are outnumbered, but the masses don't stand a chance
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john titor was off a few years wasnt he?
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i dunno didnt russia recently put nukes into cuba again?
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...the US military is finished.


U.S. Military Suicide Rate Now Likely Double or Triple Civil War’s



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Don't believe the propaganda. It's Psychological warfare to demoralize the troops. Though I don't doubt suicide rates could be higher, that is exactly what TPTB want. Much of this war is about perception. They want to diminish Americas fighting force through lies, deceit and propaganda because their numbers (10%) are lower than ours (90%). NO FEAR!

It will be a revolution not a civil war.
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