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1 MILLION LAYOFFS: US Defense Firms Preparing To Send Notices

 
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The defense industry is the only one we have left.
If that gets gutted like all our other industries then it's over, stick a fork in the 'ole USA.
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Nuking Iran would create a lot of jobs wouldn't it?
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About time we stop the war mongering and take care of our citizens. Even though these people might loose their jobs, the end result will be better for this country and save lives.
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Don't you get it?

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what's the difference; receiving gov't welfare assistance, or being a defence contractor? one gives you higher social status, the other gets you past the pearly gates.
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for the idiots that are asking 'does this mean the wars are over' ...learn the difference between offense and defense...defense means the USA is going to be more vulnerable to attack..duh no the wars aren't over- we'll just be more mobile and fast as the Prez likes to say

and who would attack us? certainly not the Chinese which they took out of the new Red Dawn movie LOL

certainly not the pissed off Russians, Muslims, or Latino countries...

how about our allies? might they just turn against us to save themselves...

we're screwed and it's being laid out in front of our eyes...even our own gov't is working towards the end of the USA

this blows big time!
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Nuking Iran would create a lot of jobs wouldn't it?
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Yeah, it would open a lot of positions in Iran.
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"Stevens [Lockheed Martin chief] told Congress in July that his firm alone stands to lose 10,000 employees if the cuts go into effect as planned."

A LONG FUCKING WAY FROM A MILLION JOBS....even trickle down says less than 35000 effected.....just fear tactics....need to start cutting defence because drones and robots will soon be the thing
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"Stevens [Lockheed Martin chief] told Congress in July that his firm alone stands to lose 10,000 employees if the cuts go into effect as planned."

A LONG FUCKING WAY FROM A MILLION JOBS....even trickle down says less than 35000 effected.....just fear tactics....need to start cutting defence because drones and robots will soon be the thing
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Probably...But 35K Doesn't have enough DOOM... ;)
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About time we stop the war mongering and take care of our citizens. Even though these people might loose their jobs, the end result will be better for this country and save lives.
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Don't you get it?


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no that person doesn't get it..they think it's saving money..a tiny bit compared to the real debt and will create 1million dependent on welfare instead of actual jobs that protect America..that's the fallacy of the argument for DEFENSE cuts

and on another note that Gold Medal winner or the military people standing there should've picked that flag up and held it high!
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exactly who are you fighting and why spend so much?
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soon, they'll be killing american citizens. It doesn't matter who they kill as long as they're killing someone....
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Lockheed Martin and Pratt & Whitney are going forward with plans to issue layoff notices to thousands of employees due to looming defense cuts under sequestration, despite administration claims that such warnings are unnecessary.


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I've been following this, whats weird is just today a radio ad was advertising a job fair for Lockheed Martin in Dallas
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Lockheed Martin and Pratt & Whitney are going forward with plans to issue layoff notices to thousands of employees due to looming defense cuts under sequestration, despite administration claims that such warnings are unnecessary.


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I've been following this, whats weird is just today a radio ad was advertising a job fair for Lockheed Martin in Dallas
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could be very specific jobs like project manager, or team lead in engineering and such.
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About time we stop the war mongering and take care of our citizens. Even though these people might loose their jobs, the end result will be better for this country and save lives.
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You are an idiot.
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Lockheed Martin and Pratt & Whitney are going forward with plans to issue layoff notices to thousands of employees due to looming defense cuts under sequestration, despite administration claims that such warnings are unnecessary.

U.S. defense companies planned to start handing out pink slips in November under federal mandates outlined in the Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act, due to the anticipated $500 billion automatic cut to defense coffers are set to go in place in January.

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Top industry officials have said publicly that automatic cut under sequestration could lead to the loss of 1 million defense-related jobs.

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Stevens [Lockheed Martin chief] told Congress in July that his firm alone stands to lose 10,000 employees if the cuts go into effect as planned.

[link to thehill.com]
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Fucking brilliant news! Just fucking awesome! Woohoo! cruise
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Lockheed Martin and Pratt & Whitney are going forward with plans to issue layoff notices to thousands of employees due to looming defense cuts under sequestration, despite administration claims that such warnings are unnecessary.


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I've been following this, whats weird is just today a radio ad was advertising a job fair for Lockheed Martin in Dallas
 Quoting: mathetes


could be very specific jobs like project manager, or team lead in engineering and such.
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No, it was specifically for sheet metal workers, wielders etc
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Good.... 5a
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About time we stop the war mongering and take care of our citizens. Even though these people might loose their jobs, the end result will be better for this country and save lives.
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workers will be replaced by automation. the death dealing machines will continue to roll off the production lines. machines designing and building other machines.
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for the idiots that are asking 'does this mean the wars are over' ...learn the difference between offense and defense...defense means the USA is going to be more vulnerable to attack..duh no the wars aren't over- we'll just be more mobile and fast as the Prez likes to say

and who would attack us? certainly not the Chinese which they took out of the new Red Dawn movie LOL

certainly not the pissed off Russians, Muslims, or Latino countries...

how about our allies? might they just turn against us to save themselves...

we're screwed and it's being laid out in front of our eyes...even our own gov't is working towards the end of the USA

this blows big time!
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it's taken me 41-years to finally see the U.S. military foreign intelligence Agency's big "Green Book" have a reason for publishing 'all our allies military installation secrets' so we can turn on them - the same way the U.S. government has turned on its American people.

to destroy the few remaining foreign-friendly nations, i 'never wondered why that book was kept secret' from our allies ( if an enemy took-over one of our allies we knew 'instantly just where to cripple' any and all foreign nations worldwide ), but never before could i have imagined the U.S. would one day use the data from the big Green Book directly on a friendly nation without having been taken-over by an enemy of the United States.

now? i'm ashamed to see the USA as being 'that enemy' instead of another.

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Didn't Barry sign an Executive Order making it illegal to notify employees of pending layoffs prior to the elections ?
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Don't worry Mitt will find everyone a job.
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chuckle
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Lockheed Martin and Pratt & Whitney are going forward with plans to issue layoff notices to thousands of employees due to looming defense cuts under sequestration, despite administration claims that such warnings are unnecessary.

U.S. defense companies planned to start handing out pink slips in November under federal mandates outlined in the Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act, due to the anticipated $500 billion automatic cut to defense coffers are set to go in place in January.

...

Top industry officials have said publicly that automatic cut under sequestration could lead to the loss of 1 million defense-related jobs.

...

Stevens [Lockheed Martin chief] told Congress in July that his firm alone stands to lose 10,000 employees if the cuts go into effect as planned.

[link to thehill.com]
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Fear Mongering. Plain and simple.

Of course they want to jump up and down to say shit like this...these "defense contractors" have been sucking on the taxpayer money tit for years... they like selling $500.00 hammers and 3 billion dollar advanced weapons to the Gov who pays them with "our" money...Guaranteed profit...what other business gets guaranteed profit?

You spend no more than you have or than is necessary...the budget has to be balanced and this is our biggest expense. There is LOTs of things that need to be cut, including the defense budget.

Fiscal responsibility people...what a concept.

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Let's be clear. These are private defense contractors who profit billions each year off of taxpayers dollars, who have been clearly bilking and overbilling taxpayers for years for shoddy work and outright fraud. Their gravy train has reached the end of the line.

These are soldiers of fortune - not our military.
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Lockheed Martin and Pratt & Whitney are going forward with plans to issue layoff notices to thousands of employees due to looming defense cuts under sequestration, despite administration claims that such warnings are unnecessary.

U.S. defense companies planned to start handing out pink slips in November under federal mandates outlined in the Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) Act, due to the anticipated $500 billion automatic cut to defense coffers are set to go in place in January.

...

Top industry officials have said publicly that automatic cut under sequestration could lead to the loss of 1 million defense-related jobs.

...

Stevens [Lockheed Martin chief] told Congress in July that his firm alone stands to lose 10,000 employees if the cuts go into effect as planned.

[link to thehill.com]
 Quoting: Taking Suggestions


Fear Mongering. Plain and simple.

Of course they want to jump up and down to say shit like this...these "defense contractors" have been sucking on the taxpayer money tit for years... they like selling $500.00 hammers and 3 billion dollar advanced weapons to the Gov who pays them with "our" money...Guaranteed profit...what other business gets guaranteed profit?

You spend no more than you have or than is necessary...the budget has to be balanced and this is our biggest expense. There is LOTs of things that need to be cut, including the dense budget.

Fiscal responsibility people...what a concept.
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Don't waste your breath. These are the same guys who scream about Head Start - you know, those gobbling little 4 year olds.
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The Military probably have warehouses of "Black Budget/Off Budget" money to spare-like that $300 Billion they "lost" while conveniently 911 happened a few days later-that scandal was forgotten, rather quickly!
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Let's be clear. These are private defense contractors who profit billions each year off of taxpayers dollars, who have been clearly bilking and overbilling taxpayers for years for shoddy work and outright fraud. Their gravy train has reached the end of the line.

These are soldiers of fortune - not our military.
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the gravy train will chug right along just fine. they are simply reconfiguring under the guise budget cuts. the current war fighting apparatus is obsolete. Nano-weapons combined with bio-weapons, chemical weapons, and genetic weapons are the future.
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Romney’s Paul Ryan VP Pick Pleases War Hawks
Posted By John Glaser On August 11, 2012

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As Danielle Pletka, vice president for foreign and defense policy studies at the hawkish American Enterprise Institute, told the Daily Beast, “Unlike a lot of fiscal conservatives, one of the great things about Paul Ryan is he is not omni-directionally a budget cutter,” meaning he knows better than to cut a red cent from America’s enormous and wasteful defense budget.

The Daily Beast has also confirmed that Ryan has been receiving briefings from Elliot Abrams, former Reagan apparatchik and George W. Bush’s former Middle East director at the National Security Council. Fred Kagan, a leading neoconservative and “one of the architects of the military surges in Iraq and Afghanistan,” has also been meeting with Ryan to coach him on foreign policy.

Paul Ryan has also been praised by Jamie Fly, executive director of the uber-hawkish Foreign Policy Initiative, a neoconservative think tank that has advocated regime change in Iran, military action in Syria to depose the regime there, and criticized the US withdrawal from Iraq.

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[link to news.antiwar.com]
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I work got one of the top five defense contractors. :( I think I may be safe though since my work is all internal for the company so my time doesn't charge the government... I hope
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This must be part of the reason behind govt. agencies such as NOAA buying ammo. You lay off a bunch of mercs, you'll need lots of bullets to match up with all them pissed off mercs.
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I work got one of the top five defense contractors. :( I think I may be safe though since my work is all internal for the company so my time doesn't charge the government... I hope
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there will be work. you guys don't get. they are jettisoning the old to make way for the new.

Given an unrestricted nanofactory and a few million dollars worth of programming and engineering, here are a few products that could manufacture in almost arbitrary quantities, given a couple months manufacturing time:

sniper rifles that weigh less than 5 kg, capable of firing a lethal projectile at Mach 10 towards any target within my line of sight.

extremely light and strong armor capable of stopping 10 kg explosive shells moving at faster than 10 km/sec.

Metal Storm systems which fire as many as 1,000,000 projectiles per minute through ballistics arrays.

UAV swarms capable of actively neutralizing very large rockets, providing comprehensive area denial, working together to disassemble buildings, etc.

highly maneuverable VTOL craft able to destroy almost any number of F-22 Raptors or F-35 Lightnings.

gigawatt-class, solar array or nuclear-powered microwave beams capable of completely melting tanks, aircraft, destroyers, incoming missiles, etc. from hundreds of miles away.

isotope separation systems that enrich uranium efficiently, at great speeds, giving enough fissile material to make bombs in days rather than years.

gigantic lenses capable of redirecting sunlight towards arbitrary coordinates in extremely high concentrations; a solar furnace.

missile swarms composed of individual missiles about 1 meter long, carrying 1 kg warheads, manufactured by the millions, capable of traveling through the upper atmosphere and surviving reentry.
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They are trying to scare the establishment back in line... a political ploy and smart business sense I'm sure.

Is it just me, or is everything about Gov't, dealing with Gov't and their banking butt pails getting a little ... I dunno.. "out there"?

I mean to the point where the conspiracy side of things are the norm and the outside voice is the one saying.. ITS OK!?!

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