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Message Subject ATHEIST PROFESSOR IN HELL! Best testimony EVER! HELL NDE. Amazing! Howard Storm. Interview 2010
Poster Handle Ohwell
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The very bible you people use as yardstick predicted that there would be wars.

In essence people are supposedly predestined to engage in wars long before they were ever born and made a choice. According to the christian doctrine, those that kill end up in hell, right? So these people that engage in these wars are doomed for hell, right?

Yet the same bible says that if you accept jesus you go to heaven.

Ok, explain this then.....

Soldiers and others who engage in wars have to carry out these acts in order to fulfil the bible but yet end up in hell afterwards. This way, the bible is fulfilled but it makes people especially soldiers have no choice in accepting this jesus or not as their roles are predestined. And if they are predestined for hell or heaven of which is no choice of theirs, then everyone on this planet already have their destination predestined as well and whether one ends up in heaven or hell, it will be god's doing or fault.

On the other side of the argument, assuming these soldiers accept jesus. I want to assume that the end result of accepting jesus is not to kill, then the killing and the wars will stop, hence the bible prophecies of war will not come to pass. And the bible will not be true.

But we cant have that, can we? That the bible cant be true!

So of what use is it then when the bible mentions that people should accept jesus when it matters not to some or impossible for them to. Or is the bible just a tool to make mankind submit their freewill to some demonic deity?
 Quoting: Ohwell



We have been disobeying God from the beginning when Eve and Adam ate the apple. We have been living under the rule of Man ever since. That is why there are Wars and that is why Men are dying needless deaths. If we all just listened to Jesus Christ we would be in harmony with each other. What is so evil about treating thy neighbor as thyself.
 Quoting: strategicdiscernment


You didnt address my points and I am not talking about any fruit anyone must have eaten.

But I will agree with you still that the reason for wars is because they ate a mango.

So you are saying in essence that some people will end up in hell, right? I mean for engaging in these wars? So no redemption for them even by accepting jesus? Or there is and as many that want it?

I am saying that if everyone accepted your jesus, there wont be wars no more.

But if they did and there are no more wars, then the bible wont be true.

And if it is just a 50-50 thing where some accept and others dont. So that the bible prophecies of wars is true and the message of salvation is equally true, then it means everyone is already predestined as to where they end up and if they end up in hell, it wont be their fault but god's.

Am I making sense?

This means that at the end of it all, your message of salvation is pointless. And could in fact be deemed as blackmail.
 
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