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BREAKING: USS Porter collides with Japanese-owned tanker near Strait of Hormuz!

 
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This should be pinned.
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This should be pinned.
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Radio Transcript: "After you..."

"No, after you..."

"No, after you..."

"Shit..."
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

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Re: BREAKING: USS Porter collides with Japanese-owned tanker near Strait of Hormuz!
i would be totally gutted if i was in the US navy. That is one badass ship and now its out of action for a very long time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


lol It is an Arleigh Burke class destroyer we have 70 of these nothing to worry about limey!!!. Unlike the queen's fleet we have plenty of ships to go around.
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


So what's your theory on the situation? I recall seeing a post that you said you were in the navy (i think), so your opinion is valuable and appreciated.
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I wont comment or speculate the reasons behind it I'm just simply saying that Accidents like this just don't happen period.

Ships have a transponder that identifies it on a GPS tracker while passing the straits the transponders of both ships will be on and all the ships in the area can track each others movement. They are set marine procedures that dictate speed and trajectory and pretty much the ships have a set track as to how they navigate thru the channel. Think of a an airplane departing or landing at a major airport.

On top of that GPS tracker then you have multiple radars and you have observers on deck. That would have seeing each others lights (this happened at 1am) At a certain distance all kinds of alarms and warnings would of gone off and a an alarm would of gone off to warn the sailors prior to the impact to brace.

Here is a video of an Arleigh Burke Destroyer, exactly the same ship showing how hard they can turn.




Following the collision a general quarters alarm would sound and fire teams would of suit it up into their fire fighting equipment.

Than a damage report would of being called out where each part of the ship calls in to give a damage report




They drill this all the fuking time night and day asleep or not whenever the captain or xo feel like pulling out of their ass.




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08/12/2012 10:24 AM
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Let's just say I'm somewhat of a Navy expert and I know these Arleigh Burke-class destroyer well and I know about Navy procedures.

I'm dumbfounded by this incident (refuse to call it accident) this class of ships are very maneuverable and while going thru the straits due to how busy the channel is they would of had observers on deck.
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


What better way to send your ship to the closest port of your enemy for repairs. ohyeah
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Radio Transcript: "After you..."

"No, after you..."

"No, after you..."

"Shit..."
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Funny you mention that because it did happened before lol
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Thnx for your view one more time R2B BOB. Appreciated!
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Radio Transcript: "After you..."

"No, after you..."

"No, after you..."

"Shit..."
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Funny you mention that because it did happened before lol
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


Now that is some funny sh!t....
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Radio Transcript: "After you..."

"No, after you..."

"No, after you..."

"Shit..."
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Funny you mention that because it did happened before lol
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


Now that is some funny sh!t....
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Indeed!lolsign
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Re: BREAKING: USS Porter collides with Japanese-owned tanker near Strait of Hormuz!
Let's just say I'm somewhat of a Navy expert and I know these Arleigh Burke-class destroyer well and I know about Navy procedures.

I'm dumbfounded by this incident (refuse to call it accident) this class of ships are very maneuverable and while going thru the straits due to how busy the channel is they would of had observers on deck.
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


What better way to send your ship to the closest port of your enemy for repairs. ohyeah
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No this will never happen we have our own repair ships, facilities and ways to deal with such situations.

Ship was already station there it will be sent to the 5th fleet home base in Bahrain if it can be repair there if not it will be cover it up with tarps and sent back to the U.S. under it's own power or picked up like the USS Cole. Same type of class as the Porter

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Thnx for your view one more time R2B BOB. Appreciated!
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captain You are welcome just my two cents none bullshit assessment. I'll leave the conspiracy part to the rest
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Thnx for your view one more time R2B BOB. Appreciated!
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captain You are welcome just my two cents none bullshit assessment. I'll leave the conspiracy part to the rest
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


You gave plenty of room for conspiracy in it.
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Thnx for your view one more time R2B BOB. Appreciated!
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captain You are welcome just my two cents none bullshit assessment. I'll leave the conspiracy part to the rest
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


You gave plenty of room for conspiracy in it.
5a
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Yeah that's exactly what I meant I explain why I find it difficult to believe this was an accident you guys can figure out the rest.
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Thnx for your view one more time R2B BOB. Appreciated!
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captain You are welcome just my two cents none bullshit assessment. I'll leave the conspiracy part to the rest
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


You gave plenty of room for conspiracy in it.
5a
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Yeah that's exactly what I meant I explain why I find it difficult to believe this was an accident you guys can figure out the rest.
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


Conspiracytards, navy expert says we have something here!
woohoo
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Otowasan tanker is huge of course.

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Kamikaze attack?
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kittyjihad
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kitkats Poor kitty.
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Thank you for the pin!hf
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i would be totally gutted if i was in the US navy. That is one badass ship and now its out of action for a very long time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1546575


lol It is an Arleigh Burke class destroyer we have 70 of these nothing to worry about limey!!!. Unlike the queen's fleet we have plenty of ships to go around.
 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


So what's your theory on the situation? I recall seeing a post that you said you were in the navy (i think), so your opinion is valuable and appreciated.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


I wont comment or speculate the reasons behind it I'm just simply saying that Accidents like this just don't happen period.

Ships have a transponder that identifies it on a GPS tracker while passing the straits the transponders of both ships will be and all the ships in the area can track the movement. They are set marine procedures that dictate speed and trajectory and pretty much the ships have a set track as to how they navigate. Think of a an airplane departing or landing at a major airport.

On top of that GPS tracker then you have multiple radars and you have observers on deck. That would have seeing each others lights (this happened at 1am) At a certain distance all kinds of alarms and warnings would of gone off and a an alarm would of gone off to warn the sailors prior to the impact to brace.

Here is a video of an Arleigh Burke Destroyer, exactly the same ship showing how hard they can turn.




Following the collision a general quarters alarm would sound and fire teams would of suit it up into their fire fighting equipment.

Than a damage report would of being called out where each part of the ship calls in to give a damage report




They drill this all the fuking time night and day asleep or not whenever the captain or xo feel like pulling out of their ass.





 Quoting: Ready2bugout AKA R2B BOB


Good info, thanks...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Otowasan tanker is huge of course.

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If you look at those Daily Fail pictures you see how the ship's hull is open like a can of sardines, modern navy ships now in days only have about 3 inches of armor . I think is kind of sad that our ships now rely so much on electronic defenses and don't have any Armour. Must navy's ships only carry the 5 inch gun in addition to variety of missiles and torpedos. The 5 inch projectile is about the size of a large male forearm and it would penetrate the ship like butter it it got passed it's electronic defenses. We used to and still have but not in use battleships with 2 feet of armor a 5 inch projectile or would of bounce from this ship or if it crashed with the tanker it would outright crushed it
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The supertanker, one of the biggest in the world, is only 333 metres long so it's quite understandable how they didn't spot it.

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Otowasan tanker is huge of course.

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If you look at those Daily Fail pictures you see how the ship's hull is open like a can of sardines, modern navy ships now in days only have about 3 inches of armor . I think is kind of sad that our ships now rely so much on electronic defenses and don't have any Armour. Must navy's ships only carry the 5 inch gun in addition to variety of missiles and torpedos. The 5 inch projectile is about the size of a large male forearm and it would penetrate the ship like butter it it got passed it's electronic defenses. We used to and still have but not in use battleships with 2 feet of armor a 5 inch projectile or would of bounce from this ship or if it crashed with the tanker it would outright crushed it
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Great info. Tbh looking these photos and the tanker size, i'm a bit surprised that the damage wasn't bigger. Reports saying the tanker didn't suffer damages. I haven't figured out yet the angle of the collision.
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I just noticed rust spots around various holes. Is this normal on a modern in service ship? Looks kinda like the damage is old?? Will someone more knowledgable take another look?
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Meet some of the crew of USS Porter!banana2

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True! Wouldn't make sense for the warship to make the turn though? WTF happened there.
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blumerl I'm taking a guess here so don't anyone get mad at me if I'm wrong. The tankers Japanese, the Japanese have been how shall we say "a bit reluctant to go along with the US lead oil embargo."

I'd not be all that surprised if it was carrying Iranian crude and the USA was sending a message.

Also historically the Japanese owe the US a pay back for the oil, scrap iron and other embargo's that they placed on Japan prior to WWII.
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That might make more sense if the USS Porter was scheduled for upgrades in 2013. Sacrifice a boat that will be out of commission soon anyway and get better upgrades for it too. Dont know if it is scheduled, but it's worth looking into.
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Kamikaze attack?
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laugh
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I just noticed rust spots around various holes. Is this normal on a modern in service ship? Looks kinda like the damage is old?? Will someone more knowledgable take another look?
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Very normal the ships undergo what is called in the navy a trim and a shave the go in dry dock full of barnacles, rusted looking like this and worst

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And come out nice and shinny with a gel coat looking like this

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The supertanker, one of the biggest in the world, is only 333 metres long so it's quite understandable how they didn't spot it.

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lol
And it's primary operation in the region is maritime security. Talking about taking your job seriously.
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i guess the tanker did not see all the warnings and or hear the warning shots fired and hit the poor US ship....like we were told about the Indian fishing boat ...where the US killed and wounded unarmed fishermen from UAE and India...last i heard the UAE was investigating that event as a murder...then it fell into the media black hole....there was a possibility of international charges brought against the sailors involved.
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