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My Husband Directed The Fake Moon Landing Says Stanley Kubrick's Widow.

 
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They did.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Sorry, you flunked Science 101, History 101, and Law 101 again. I will repeat the criteria for evidence, very slowly so that you will understand.

Science demands independent reproducibility.

History demands independent corroboration.

Courts demand sworn testimony under cross-examination.

NASA has provided none of these.
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Now you're just making shit up.
The monkey refused to eat and drink, it went kooky.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

I was quoting NASA's own official web site on the topic:

[link to lis.arc.nasa.gov]
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At the time it was speculated that the changes noted in the animal were an effect of microgravity alone.
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You are therefore agreeing with me that NASA is "just making shit up."
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Why were they celebrities, then? Are you saying it was not under NASA's control -- that regardless of who they put in the craft, they would instantly become a "celebrity" too dangerous to expose to risk?
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Parading the astronauts in front of the media and touting them as America's next hero-explorers made them celebrities. The public reaction to the Apollo 1 fire demonstrated this.
So your argument is that 9 groups were compartmentalized and made "parts" that worked anyhow, but 1 group of the ten was in on the hoax and made a part that wouldn't work?
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183

Not necessarily. We don't know whether the LM design team was consciously party to the hoax. We only know that by 1969, when NASA was shockingly cancelling LM testing as "unnecessary," any LM engineer with a brain and a conscience should and would have publicly protested--unless he either approved of the hoax, or was threatened into silence.
Since you are so hung up on specific meanings in language, I have to ask if "United States" and "Celestial Body" are both necessary and inclusive.
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Yes, we are speaking of the United States, not the alleged achievements of any other country. And yes, we are speaking of an actual landing on a celestial body with significant gravity and a safe takeoff and return therefrom, not unmanned launches that merely fly through space (perhaps collecting some dust) then fall back to earth.

The United States has never successfully accomplished a land-and-return mission, manned or unmanned. (Unless you count the "moon landings.")
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From the standpoint of a hoax, Apollo 10 is as easy -- or even easier -- to hoax than Apollo 11.
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I agree with you that at least parts of the Apollo 10 mission may have been hoaxed.
Regardless of your own spin, the descent engine was fired, the ascent engine fired, the guidance computer and RCS systems were tested. The only thing not tested in lunar conditions were the descent radar and the shock absorbers.
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Only a murderous engineer would think that firing the engines and turning the electronics on and off is a sufficient test of a vehicle that must land humans onto a celestial body in a hostile alien environment, then take off and return them safely into orbit.
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NASA has been honest.

You claim they have been lying. What is your evidence? Why ...that NASA isn't honest; they lie!
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183

You have failed Science 101, History 101, and Law 101 yet again. Repeat after me:

- It is up to the claimant to prove his claim. An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof.

- Previous behavior is a strong indicator of later actions. Once an administration has lied about a war, thereby murdering millions of people, the public must presume that such administration will lie whenever convenient.
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NASA didn't test if the LM could safely land and return human beings, because they didn't use an LM to safely return human beings, before they used an LM to safely land and return human beings?
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You fail Bioengineering 101. Any hostile environment or dangerous apparatus should be tested on mammals before any human exposure or usage is attempted.
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Now he's Satan? You really are mental.
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Re-read my post. I referred to Satan and his minions. Johnson and Nixon are now known to be mass murderers, and as such certainly qualify as Satan's minions.
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They did.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Sorry, you flunked Science 101, History 101, and Law 101 again. I will repeat the criteria for evidence, very slowly so that you will understand.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First

Ad nauseam.

Science demands independent reproducibility.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First

Men on the Moon was an engineering project, not a scientific experiment.

History demands independent corroboration.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First

What? The Soviets aren't good enough for you?
Who would be?

Courts demand sworn testimony under cross-examination.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First

This is, and never will be, a trial because hoaxies are incapable of even establishing probable cause.
And IF it were NASA would have the presumption of innocence.
A concept that seems to be completely alien to conspiracists.

The whole thing would fall flat on its face anyway because there's no evidence whatsoever.
Certainly none has been presented here, only the usual appeals to ignorance and ad hominem fallacies.

NASA has provided none of these.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First

Blatant lie.

Now you're just making shit up.
The monkey refused to eat and drink, it went kooky.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

I was quoting NASA's own official web site on the topic:

[link to lis.arc.nasa.gov]
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At the time it was speculated that the changes noted in the animal were an effect of microgravity alone.
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 Quoting: Skeptic the First

Why are you only quoting the bit you like?
Why are you always only quoting the bits you like?

Cherry-picking is yet another fallacious argument you seem to be over fond off.
Want to make your case?
Present actual evidence.
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They KNEW the environment from the tens of probes that had already been sent!
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They knew that any mammal sent beyond earth orbit ended up sick or dead.

But more importantly, you haven't been reading NASA's own press briefings. NASA knows very little about the lunar environment, and in fact is scared witless of it.

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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How much radiation awaits lunar colonists? A new NASA mission aims to find out.
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"Not only will we measure the radiation, we will use plastics that mimic human tissue to look at how these highly energetic particles penetrate and interact with the human body," says Spence, who is the Principal Investigator for CRaTER.
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So which is worse for astronauts: cosmic rays from above or neutrons from below? Igor Mitrofanov, a scientist at the Institute for Space Research and the Russian Federal Space Agency, Moscow, offers a grim answer: "Both are worse."
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What? The Soviets aren't good enough for you?
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

If you mean the old Soviet Union, of course not. The world now knows that the Soviet Union was an inveterate liar.

If you mean today's Russians, what concrete evidence have they presented? Do you have their sworn testimony under cross-examination?
And IF it were NASA would have the presumption of innocence.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

You are obviously not familiar with American law.

The presumption of innocence only applies to criminal cases. Civil cases, such as a lawsuit alleging fraud, are judged according to the preponderance of evidence; and the evidence is gathered during discovery, a process whereby the plaintiff can subpoena physical evidence and documentation and compel sworn testimony under cross-examination. Discovery occurs prior to the actual court trial.

Actually, a somewhat similar process occurs in criminal cases too. Long before the actual court trial, a grand jury subpoenas physical evidence and documentation and compels sworn testimony under cross-examination. This is all in order to decide whether to put the suspect on trial.

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The United States has never successfully accomplished a land-and-return mission, manned or unmanned.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First

Ironically, even Obama's planned mission to an asteroid for 2025 would not be a land-and-return:

[link to www.usatoday.com]
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Obama plan to land on asteroid may be unrealistic for 2025
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"You don't land on an asteroid," says former Apollo astronaut Rusty Schweickart, a longtime advocate of asteroid studies. "You pull up to one and dock with it. ... And getting away from it, all you have to do is sneeze and you're gone." He envisions a spaceship hovering next to the asteroid and occasionally firing its thrusters to stay in place.

Astronauts wouldn't walk on an asteroid. They would drift next to it, moving themselves along with their gloved hands.
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Present actual evidence.
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 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

You're incapable of that, aren't you?
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Now you're just making shit up.
The monkey refused to eat and drink, it went kooky.
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

I was quoting NASA's own official web site on the topic:

[link to lis.arc.nasa.gov]
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At the time it was speculated that the changes noted in the animal were an effect of microgravity alone.
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You are therefore agreeing with me that NASA is "just making shit up."
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


It had also been speculated the Moon had no solid surface...just kilometer-deep piles of soft dust into which a spacecraft could sink.

Funny thing...science marches on.

Oh, and some early speculation suggested the first hydrogen bomb would ignite the atmosphere in an all-engulfing self-sustaining fusion reaction. I guess none of us are here now, eh?
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Why were they celebrities, then? Are you saying it was not under NASA's control -- that regardless of who they put in the craft, they would instantly become a "celebrity" too dangerous to expose to risk?
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183

Parading the astronauts in front of the media and touting them as America's next hero-explorers made them celebrities. The public reaction to the Apollo 1 fire demonstrated this.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


So here I am running the Apollo Program. I could either do an about-face and try to fake the entire landing. Or I could find three OTHER guys to be the astronauts.

Wow. Who was in charge of your conspiracy here, Doctor Klaw?


So your argument is that 9 groups were compartmentalized and made "parts" that worked anyhow, but 1 group of the ten was in on the hoax and made a part that wouldn't work?
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183

Not necessarily. We don't know whether the LM design team was consciously party to the hoax. We only know that by 1969, when NASA was shockingly cancelling LM testing as "unnecessary," any LM engineer with a brain and a conscience should and would have publicly protested--unless he either approved of the hoax, or was threatened into silence.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


Except that didn't happen.

The most you might be able to say is that three consecutive duplicate tests were scheduled but the first two went so well the third was considered un-necessary.

Every part that could be tested without actually landing men on the Moon, was tested without landing men on the Moon.




Since you are so hung up on specific meanings in language, I have to ask if "United States" and "Celestial Body" are both necessary and inclusive.
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183

Yes, we are speaking of the United States, not the alleged achievements of any other country. And yes, we are speaking of an actual landing on a celestial body with significant gravity and a safe takeoff and return therefrom, not unmanned launches that merely fly through space (perhaps collecting some dust) then fall back to earth.

The United States has never successfully accomplished a land-and-return mission, manned or unmanned. (Unless you count the "moon landings.")
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Ooh, careful, you almost let a few probes slip by there. Better add a couple more conditions just to be safe.

Like Stardust.

So why in your opinion is the US unable to do what other nations have done? Or have you just not got around to declaring Luna (and others) fake as well?
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The United States has never successfully accomplished a land-and-return mission, manned or unmanned.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First

Ironically, even Obama's planned mission to an asteroid for 2025 would not be a land-and-return:

[link to www.usatoday.com]
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Obama plan to land on asteroid may be unrealistic for 2025
...
"You don't land on an asteroid," says former Apollo astronaut Rusty Schweickart, a longtime advocate of asteroid studies. "You pull up to one and dock with it. ... And getting away from it, all you have to do is sneeze and you're gone." He envisions a spaceship hovering next to the asteroid and occasionally firing its thrusters to stay in place.

Astronauts wouldn't walk on an asteroid. They would drift next to it, moving themselves along with their gloved hands.
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 Quoting: Skeptic the First


And thus, Skeptic manages to narrow the goal posts JUST ENOUGH to make sure the US never completes a mission to his satisfaction.
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You same sad sorry shills who just deny, deny , DENY. Your desperate is tangible.

History is NOT on your side.

History shows us the State lies.

It lies ALL THE TIME.

'Landing' on the moon served as a much welcomed diversion from the highly unpopular Vietnam war (which btw, began by the State lying about the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
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Most damning to the We-Went-To-The-Moon camp, is the observation that technology drives the development of technology and so it advances over time. This is true in EVERY AREA of our lives, except for space travel.

We are told to believe that we used to be able to go the moon 40 years ago, but well, we just can't seem to figure how to do it anymore. And neither can anyone else, it's just the damnedest thing.

The fact the we haven't yet been to the moon is a tough truth to come to terms with, because of what it reveals about the world we live in.

So the shills (and the sheeple) choose denial, aka the blue pill. Jack was right, turns out most people can't handle the truth.
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You same sad sorry shills who just deny, deny , DENY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1932223

It's easy enough to deny the claim that hoaxies have presented valid evidence.

Your desperate is tangible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1932223

It's spelt desperation.

And don't make me laugh. Hoaxies are a dying breed. Nobody that matters ever took them serious.
It's knee-jerk anti-governmentism, not a position based on rational assessment of the evidence.

History is NOT on your side.
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Trying to be a subversive by accusing the EvilGubmint™ of something they did not do is counter-productive.
It reduces you to an irrelevancy.

History shows us the State lies.

It lies ALL THE TIME.
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So Washington, D.C. is not the capital of the U.S.A.?

'Landing' on the moon served as a much welcomed diversion from the highly unpopular Vietnam war (which btw, began by the State lying about the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1932223

Get your timeline straight, dummy.
The US was commited to landing a man on the Moon way before Viet Nam turned sour.

Like all hoaxies you're utterly ignorant of the historical context.

(And why are you anthropomorphising and monolithising an abstraction by capitalising the word state?
There is no state, just people.)

Most damning to the We-Went-To-The-Moon camp, is the observation that technology drives the development of technology and so it advances over time. This is true in EVERY AREA of our lives,
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We make better horseshoes now?

Once a technology has matured a very long time can pass before any new basic innovations are made. During this phase improvements are small steps at the time and very gradual.
We see this again and again.
When it comes to fuel efficiency the Saturns pretty much hit that peak.
Today the cost of lifting a tonne of cargo into LEO isn't much lower then it was in 1973.

except for space travel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1932223

Did you see that humongous space station pass over?
Did you see the images from Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and their Moons?
Have you been living under a rock for the last 40 years?

We are told to believe that we used to be able to go the moon 40 years ago,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1932223

"We" still are.
But "we" decided that bombing brown people in distant countries is a much more fun national hobby.
The DoD spends more money on office supplies each year than the total NASA budget.

but well, we just can't seem to figure how to do it anymore. And neither can anyone else, it's just the damnedest thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1932223

It's not can't, it's won't.

The Space Race was about being first. At almost any cost. It was an existential challenge.
It's over and done.
There are no booby prizes.

Return to the Moon will only happen when economically sensible.

The fact the we haven't yet been to the moon is a tough truth to come to terms with, because of what it reveals about the world we live in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1932223

You mean the fantasy you live in.

So the shills (and the sheeple) choose denial, aka the blue pill. Jack was right, turns out most people can't handle the truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1932223

Why do hoaxies always lack a sense of irony.
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Again, no evidence.
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So here I am running the Apollo Program. I could either do an about-face and try to fake the entire landing. Or I could find three OTHER guys to be the astronauts.
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Your hypothesis is that one or more moon landings actually did occur, but the personnel were expendable military men rather than the celebrity "astronauts." According to your hypothesis, then, one or more missions were carried out successfully; but any photos, videos, and interviews of the "astronauts" were a deception.

I agree that a sharp criminal investigator should consider your hypothesis along with others.
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They KNEW the environment from the tens of probes that had already been sent!
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They knew that any mammal sent beyond earth orbit ended up sick or dead.

But more importantly, you haven't been reading NASA's own press briefings. NASA knows very little about the lunar environment, and in fact is scared witless of it.

[link to science.nasa.gov]
---
How much radiation awaits lunar colonists? A new NASA mission aims to find out.
...
"Not only will we measure the radiation, we will use plastics that mimic human tissue to look at how these highly energetic particles penetrate and interact with the human body," says Spence, who is the Principal Investigator for CRaTER.
...
So which is worse for astronauts: cosmic rays from above or neutrons from below? Igor Mitrofanov, a scientist at the Institute for Space Research and the Russian Federal Space Agency, Moscow, offers a grim answer: "Both are worse."
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What part of LONG TERM do you not understand? What part of men had already been in space LONGER than the animals do you not understand? Are you TRYING to be this stupid or does it come naturally?
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So here I am running the Apollo Program. I could either do an about-face and try to fake the entire landing. Or I could find three OTHER guys to be the astronauts.
 Quoting: nomuse (not logged in) 2380183

Your hypothesis is that one or more moon landings actually did occur, but the personnel were expendable military men rather than the celebrity "astronauts." According to your hypothesis, then, one or more missions were carried out successfully; but any photos, videos, and interviews of the "astronauts" were a deception.

I agree that a sharp criminal investigator should consider your hypothesis along with others.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


SImpler than that.


I am saying your supposed insurmountable barrier (the "Celebrity Astronaut" problem) could easily be overcome by a legitimate program. Or by a hoax, for that matter.



Oh, and not to mince words...they WERE expendable military men. Or, rather, the majority of the astronauts were test pilots. It was their occupation to go up in untested aircraft and a good third of them died doing it. We celebrate Chuck Yeager not because any idiot could have pressed a button and crossed the sound barrier in perfect safety and comfort, but because it was hard and he took the risk.

As a culture, we've celebrated the risk-takers. We are fascinated by mountain climbers, by those who explore the depths of the ocean (or who just going around sticking cameras in the faces of sharks). This was the astronauts; not just a bunch of guys who were famous for something they hadn't done yet -- but a bunch of guys who were willing to put their lives on the line to do something no-one had ever done before.

We were at that same time sending nice young men and women into a jungle to get shot at, and many of them ended up with their names in glossy magazines like LIFE -- right beside explicit photographs of they, or other people involved in the conflict of that region, dead or suffering horribly. It wasn't exactly hidden that people could DIE. And some were doing so in public view.

(And, you know, I'd vastly prefer to go out in a flash in a pad explosion, or even die slowly of suffocation in a marooned spacecraft, then bleed out into the muck of a rice paddy with a pungi-stick in my guts.)
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So here I am running the Apollo Program. I could either do an about-face and try to fake the entire landing. Or I could find three OTHER guys to be the astronauts.
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Your hypothesis is that one or more moon landings actually did occur, but the personnel were expendable military men rather than the celebrity "astronauts." According to your hypothesis, then, one or more missions were carried out successfully; but any photos, videos, and interviews of the "astronauts" were a deception.

I agree that a sharp criminal investigator should consider your hypothesis along with others.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


I am not sure about the fist moon landing, as no one can be.
If it did happen, I don't believe that humans were involved.

I believe the three astronauts believe they went to the moon. I don't think they are lying. Mind control can do and make you believe things really did happen.

The rituals that B. A. did are a huge concern.
This hypothesis has to do with the first maned moon landing only.
Stanley Kubrick said he filmed it. I do believe that.
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I am not sure about the fist moon landing, as no one can be.
If it did happen, I don't believe that humans were involved.

I believe the three astronauts believe they went to the moon. I don't think they are lying. Mind control can do and make you believe things really did happen.

The rituals that B. A. did are a huge concern.
This hypothesis has to do with the first maned moon landing only.
Stanley Kubrick said he filmed it. I do believe that.
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I PITY DA FOOL THAT INTERFERES WITH MY RITUALS!
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Another one suckered. Success!
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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boy, critical thinking at it's peak. The CTs fall all over this, and it was made as a JOKE!!!
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I am not sure about the fist moon landing, as no one can be.
If it did happen, I don't believe that humans were involved.

I believe the three astronauts believe they went to the moon. I don't think they are lying. Mind control can do and make you believe things really did happen.

The rituals that B. A. did are a huge concern.
This hypothesis has to do with the first maned moon landing only.
Stanley Kubrick said he filmed it. I do believe that.
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I PITY DA FOOL THAT INTERFERES WITH MY RITUALS!
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If the rituals include young children then it does not matter who you pity in America. But if you live in another country that allows this I pity the children....Women in oppressive societies should stop having children, problem solved.

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The rituals that B. A. did are a huge concern.
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If the rituals include young children then it does not matter who you pity in America. But if you live in another country that allows this I pity the children....Women in oppressive societies should stop having children, problem solved.
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Someone has a stuck disc.


Even the A-Team can't save this one.
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Re: My Husband Directed The Fake Moon Landing Says Stanley Kubrick's Widow.
flipoffflipoff flipoffflipoff angry angry angry angry nazorion
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Re: My Husband Directed The Fake Moon Landing Says Stanley Kubrick's Widow.
also make sure to watch Kubrick's Odyssey, it's a tell all into how he did it, and how he left messages in the movie The Shining to let people know he filmed it
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The rituals that B. A. did are a huge concern.
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If the rituals include young children then it does not matter who you pity in America. But if you live in another country that allows this I pity the children....Women in oppressive societies should stop having children, problem solved.
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Someone has a stuck disc.


Even the A-Team can't save this one.
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But women can save it. Stop having children.

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Re: My Husband Directed The Fake Moon Landing Says Stanley Kubrick's Widow.
We are talking about the moon landing in chat.
Keth gave me this video. It is a video pf Neil Amstrong rare interview 25 years later. He says there are great ideas undiscovered , breakthroughs to those who can remove one of truths protective layers.... Hmmmm
[link to www.youtube.com]

Summertime and Keth gave me this video.
[link to www.youtube.com]

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