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nzreva (OP) User ID: 19624091 United States 08/27/2012 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is an Apollo 17 photo with a movie light still in the shot. I think it's great that the astronauts took movie lights with them to the moon. This light is a 1000 watt light that was used in the 1960's. I wonder where they plugged it in? Probably the same AC outlet they used to run the air conditioner on the Lunar Lander? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17503450 [link to www.jayweidner.com] Apollo 17 - Proof it was Kubricked by Ted Twietmeyer above link He says I need to admit here that my goal in reviewing Moon walk and rover photos from Apollo 17 was to find possible artifacts. When I found one particular image after many hours of reviewing photos, my research work came to a complete stop. The powers that think we are totally stupid.... I wish I could run my house on all the current they had....no Also Look at the pictures they were close and far in focus, not possible with the camera the astronuts used. Last Edited by nzreva on 08/27/2012 02:00 PM |
nzreva (OP) User ID: 19624091 United States 08/27/2012 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got in a discussion with Kingmon Art on the moon landing in chat tonight, I said if he did not see the thee astronauts get dressed and then walk them to the the space craft he could not prove to the world 100% that they got on the space ship. His answer after a heated discussion, that I was bat crazy and I was a liar. Then he muted me, his supporters were sunpar and another person who told me### up and all the # that agreed with me to do the same. Art also said Stanley Kubrick was a liar. Hmmm a man at the hight of his career lost everything by telling us what he did. An emotional plague afflicts people whose belief systems are so rigid they ignore relevant facts and become enraged if anyone challenges their beliefs. Wilhelm Reich Last Edited by nzreva on 01/03/2013 10:46 AM |
nzreva (OP) User ID: 19624091 United States 08/27/2012 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, you flunked Science 101, History 101, and Law 101 again. I will repeat the criteria for evidence, very slowly so that you will understand. Science demands independent reproducibility. History demands independent corroboration. Courts demand sworn testimony under cross-examination. NASA has provided none of these. you are so right Last Edited by nzreva on 01/03/2013 10:48 AM |
nzreva (OP) User ID: 19624091 United States 08/27/2012 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neil Armstrong Nasa Lies Strange opening statement... [link to www.youtube.com] When you seek a path to any new truth, you must expect to find it blocked by ‘expert opinion.’ Albert Guérard Thomas Ronald Baron (died April 1967)[1] was a quality control and safety inspector for North American Aviation (NAA), the company that built the Apollo command module.[2] After the Apollo 1 fire Baron wrote a 500 page report on NASA safety protocol violation, which he gave to Rep. Olin E. Teague's investigation at Cape Kennedy, Florida on 21 April 1967. When Baron mentioned the report up during his testimony, Teague told him "Your report went to the chairman of the full committee, not to me", that "something of that length ... we can take it as an exhibit."[3] No more than eight days after his testimony, Baron was killed instantly, along with his wife and stepdaughter, when a train crashed into their car near their home in Florida.[1][4] Baron's death was later ruled as an accident, or suicide by some reports. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by nzreva on 08/27/2012 11:16 PM |
Danny237 User ID: 27571703 New Zealand 11/12/2012 01:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Husband Directed The Fake Moon Landing Says Stanley Kubrick's Widow. Quoting: nzreva In the video 6min 20 secs interview General Walters dies, at 85, in the night after a French interview that was going to expose details about the first moon walk, it was scheduled for the next day he did not survive the night. 6min 20 secs into video [link to mountzion144.ning.com] share_post Listen to what the New York Herald tribune says in the video. More [link to thebodyofjesusthenazoraion.com] Hi. Just watched this clip and I don't hear Cristina Kubrick say at any point that her husband "directed the fake moon landing". In fact, none of the other speakers (apart from the interviewer at one point) mentions Stanley's name at all. While we can assume that Jan Harlan and Cristina Kubrick were referring to Stanley Kubrick when they were speaking, there is no way to know the context of what they were saying. Rumsfeld could've been describing someone else entirely, for all we know. This clip is a total hack-job IMO, someone has put it together to garner a bit of traction for their own agenda - trying to 'cash in' on the current interest in this topic. For the record, I do believe that Stanley made the moon footage - but clips like this one only serve to muddy the waters for those of us interested in finding out what went on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8808606 United States 11/12/2012 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As we again study the surface on the moon we find our previous landing sites. Quoting: FubarMan [link to www.youtube.com] We have satellites capable of seeing scratches on a penny on earth from orbit. We spend billions in stupid shit every year. We can't send one of those satellites to the moon. suuuuuuuuuuuuuure How about some video of the ride, leaving or reentering the atmosphere? They have telescopes to see mars but they can't watch a space shuttle leaving or coming back? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8808606 United States 11/12/2012 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mindlouka This is my belief too! They wanted to win "the race to space" from URSS and, since the russians were more advance than the americans at the time, they had to fake it. And fast. If the Russians were supposedly more advanced, then why didn't they cry foul? Why did they have their own program until 1974? If they were so advanced why couldn't they get their heavy lifting booster (the N-1) to work instead of blowing up? The truth is they were not more advanced. They were about the same and they were only ahead until the Gemini program during which they fell steadily behind. because no one wanted to admit it was impossible to do!! Way to avoid the real questions. IF it was supposedly impossible then they could have exposed the US with that knowledge and embarrassed them giving a big win for communism. They didn't but instead tried to get there themselves until 1974. The Russians were watching the same fake movie you are watching, you believe it's real, soooo... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13641821 United States 11/12/2012 03:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well i wasnt sure it was possible with 1960s special effects, but look at this video by RAMMSTEIN:"AMERIKA" [link to www.youtube.com] made in 2004!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8808606 United States 11/12/2012 04:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Husband Directed The Fake Moon Landing Says Stanley Kubrick's Widow. Quoting: nzreva In the video 6min 20 secs interview General Walters dies, at 85, in the night after a French interview that was going to expose details about the first moon walk, it was scheduled for the next day he did not survive the night. 6min 20 secs into video [link to mountzion144.ning.com] share_post Listen to what the New York Herald tribune says in the video. More [link to thebodyofjesusthenazoraion.com] Something that is real will have little to no discrepancies. The reality will speak for itself. Something that is faked will have too many discrepancies to count. Such as the photo count, diffused light in the photos, Van Allen radiation belts, Direct Solar radiation, micro meteors, etc, etc.. I don't even bother trying to point out the evidence regarding the - too numerous to count - discrepancies of the moon landings to people in conversation. Same goes with 911, too many discrepancies to count but yet people defend the "official" story with extreme zeal. Sad really. Agreed! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19604136 Australia 11/12/2012 06:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | p6-12 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD Please tell me you're just trolling. cause he CAN'T explain the tracks issue in pictures. Quoting: Portuguese Coward 21594154 It's impossible to have it like these pictures show. The 'track issue' is an argument from ignorance (google that term). If you think it proves something make your case. Nobody has to proof you wrong, you have to proof you right. ____________________________________________________________________________ That's Rammstein making fun of American culture. You're part of it. ____________________________________________________________________________ Didn't go with Apollo. Astronauts went up into low earth orbit for 6 days, just like they did with the STS and ISS missions. Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd So what magick did they use to make their spaceships invisible? ____________________________________________________________________________ So how do you explain the just the other day, a lunar module crash and burned with recent technology?. Cause it means we dindt go the first time? Quoting: US Coward 18377496 [link to news.discovery.com] Since 1903 no fixed-wing aircraft prototype has ever failed during a testflight? ____________________________________________________________________________ well we know that the temp on the moon can peak @ 368 degrees and thats not counting a solar flare but im sure the shoes and rubber tires have a much higher melting point cause otherwise someone could have died up there!! Quoting: Novice 20243040 The soles were made of silicone rubber. What is the melting point of silicone rubber? The tyres were metal. Making a point based on no knowledge whatsoever is a effective way to get it wrong. When galactic cosmic rays collide with particles in the lunar surface, they trigger little nuclear reactions that release yet more radiation in the form of neutrons. The lunar surface itself is radioactive! Quoting: Novice 20243040 [link to science.nasa.gov] So? The question is how much radiation. The air you breath is radioactive and you've been breathing it a lot longer then anyone has spent time on the surface of the Moon. Why aren't you dead yet? ____________________________________________________________________________ Have they taken this to court? This is something to follow to see if it goes to court. This happened years ago. [link to en.wikipedia.org] ____________________________________________________________________________ Was it possible to take the known number of photos (from NASA records) in the amount of time available (from NASA records?) Quoting: Canadian Coward 20363457 Yes. Jack White doesn't know that for all but one mission there were 2 EVA cameras. Jack White doesn't know that the cameras had motorwind, ca 1 second to click again. Jack White doesn't know that a large number of pictures were part of a panorama. Jack White doesn't know that the word 'document' includes make pictures of what you are doing, i.e. time for experiments he subtracts was in fact time pictures were taken. Jack White doesn't know that all pictures match up with the timeline documented by sound and video, we do not need to guess when everyone of them was taken. As a studio photographer Jack White doesn't know about aim and click documentation style photography, not every photograph takes a quarter of an hour to frame and light. (Just look at the pictures.) Jack White doesn't know that he's the world's worst photo-analyst in the history of the world. Even Congress says so. No autofocus on the Hasselblads numbnuts. Consequently, it's not just clicking a button. Quoting: Canadian Coward 20363457 Most pictures were taken with a standard setting. Yet another thing Jack White didn't know. Also, no viewfinder. Yet we have every single picture that is perfectly focused. Really?!? Quoting: Canadian Coward 20363457 With a widefield lens it is hard to miss, and then still many pictures are just plain bad. Hoaxies often make claims about the pictures as a whole insinuating they saw them all. This is always a self-evident lie. It's not new. Hoaxies rarely produce new claims. Who cares if my grandmother wrote it. It brings up an excellent point. Quoting: Canadian Coward 20363457 Excellence in stupidity. Jack White was a contender every single year. ____________________________________________________________________________ Looks like a perfectly fine real spacecraft, the product of real engineering subjected to real world physical restrains. IOW it doesn't look like anything Hollywood has made you think a spaceship looks like. ____________________________________________________________________________ It has always seemed odd the shape they chose for the lunar module. For the strength, weight, volume issue, and considering that it was designed to go with in a cylindrical rocket body, it seems like the most unlikely shape possible. Quoting: ehecatl I cannot believe that real NASA engineers designed this thing, because its materials, the foil being one of many things, just don't make sense in their use, and seem to have no parallel in older or modern spacecraft. And your uneducated opinion is relevant why? Meanwhile actual aerospace engineers applaud the LM as one of the finest spacecraft designs ever build. It is capable of doing the things it was supposed to do, and do them well, and nothing else. There is nothing superfluous in the design, it is purely utilitarian. Zoom in and notice how badly the white sheet metal panels up above fit together. Quoting: ehecatl Does something not make sense about this? What makes you think they are metal? Why can't you be bothered to actual learn something about the stuff you are criticising? :Schlock: Wow, really good debunking job, Daze. You've definitely convinced me. Lol |
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nzreva (OP) User ID: 19624091 United States 01/02/2013 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is claimed that NASA faked the landings to forgo humiliation and to ensure that it continued to get funding. NASA raised about US$30 billion to go to the Moon, and Bill Kaysing claims that this could have been used to "pay off" many people.[28] Since most conspiracists believe that sending men to the Moon was impossible at the time, they argue that landings had to be faked to fulfill President Kennedy's 1961 promise: "achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to the Earth".[21] Others have claimed that, with all the known and unknown hazards,[29] NASA would not have risked the public humiliation of astronauts crashing to their deaths on the lunar surface, broadcast on live TV.[30] Vietnam War It is claimed that the landings helped the US government because they were a popular distraction from the Vietnam War; and so manned landings suddenly ended about the same time that the US ended its role in the Vietnam War.[31] [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by nzreva on 01/02/2013 06:21 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7133050 United Kingdom 01/02/2013 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neal Armstrong lives a few miles away from me. He rarely comes out of his house. He does not want to be bothered. He does not want to talk about the moon. Hmmmmmmm.... Quoting: Xannixon Perhaps all Americans can agree with the great Neil Armstrong, whose famous quote appears in Wagener's biography on a special summary page at the end of the book (search for honestly say inside the book): [link to www.amazon.com] --- As for walking on the moon, sometimes I wonder if that really happened. I can honestly say--and it's a great surprise to me--that I have never had a dream about being on the moon. It's a great disappointment to me. - Neil Armstrong --- The first sentence makes clear that Mr. Armstrong is skeptical of the reality of the "moon landings"--and therefore so should we. The second sentence is a little more cryptic, but understandable by analogy. Let's say that a young actor gets a reputation in fan magazines as a playboy. But as he gets older and never settles down with anyone, rumors start to swirl about him. Finally, when his career is over anyway, he cryptically mentions in an interview that "I've never dreamt of having relations with a woman. It's a great disappointment to me." What do you think the actor is trying to tell us? Neil Armstrong and Rock Hudson are friends for Eternity. Great thread for cultivating relatively painless disillusionment! Many thx, O/P! |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 01/02/2013 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, really good debunking job, Daze. You've definitely convinced me. Lol Feel free to ask any questions. Non-accusatory ones. Apparently so are you, where is your evidence? Oh, that's right, all I have to do is turn on my TV, all the evidence is right there! Fucking moran! Accuser has the burden of proof. And your notion that I believe in the historicity of Apollo because "someone told me" is just projection. Hoaxies mindlessly regurgitate what garishly-coloured "anti-establishment" websites told them to believe. Hoaxies might be black sheep, but sheep non the less. They are not even able to conceive of the notion of actually properly researching a subject and basing one's opinion on the results. Hoaxies never study Apollo, this is blatantly demonstrated in every single hoax thread. So the 400,000 workers and the shareholders of the hundreds of subcontractors didn't get their money? Why didn't they raise a ruckus? Did you even read the GAO audit report? Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
geerod User ID: 3592190 United States 01/02/2013 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can not believe that 40+ years after the contrived lunar landings that this topic is still being discussed. Why argue people.Either you believe we went or you don't. Why try convincing others your point of view? Grow up already and move on people!!!!!!!!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1195298 United States 01/02/2013 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neal Armstrong lives a few miles away from me. He rarely comes out of his house. He does not want to be bothered. He does not want to talk about the moon. Hmmmmmmm.... Quoting: Xannixon Perhaps all Americans can agree with the great Neil Armstrong, whose famous quote appears in Wagener's biography on a special summary page at the end of the book (search for honestly say inside the book): [link to www.amazon.com] --- As for walking on the moon, sometimes I wonder if that really happened. I can honestly say--and it's a great surprise to me--that I have never had a dream about being on the moon. It's a great disappointment to me. - Neil Armstrong --- The first sentence makes clear that Mr. Armstrong is skeptical of the reality of the "moon landings"--and therefore so should we. The second sentence is a little more cryptic, but understandable by analogy. Let's say that a young actor gets a reputation in fan magazines as a playboy. But as he gets older and never settles down with anyone, rumors start to swirl about him. Finally, when his career is over anyway, he cryptically mentions in an interview that "I've never dreamt of having relations with a woman. It's a great disappointment to me." What do you think the actor is trying to tell us? Neil Armstrong and Rock Hudson are friends for Eternity. Great thread for cultivating relatively painless disillusionment! Many thx, O/P! Or they did something to these guys' memories. I didn't know Armstrong said this, but Aldrin is on record as stating that he cannot recall actually walking on the Moon. I can't recall where I heard read/heard this. It may be a reference in Hoagland's book Dark Mission. |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 01/02/2013 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or they did something to these guys' memories. I didn't know Armstrong said this, but Aldrin is on record as stating that he cannot recall actually walking on the Moon. I can't recall where I heard read/heard this. It may be a reference in Hoagland's book Dark Mission. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1195298 Don't you see the irony of what you just said? Armstrong said that thinking back about it it felt like a dream. Considering it must have been an experience completely different from everything else in his life that doesn't sound so odd. BTW, Hoaxland believes they went to the Moon but not fully reported what was discovered (i.e. aliens). Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
nzreva (OP) User ID: 19624091 United States 01/03/2013 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the video 6min 20 secs interview General Walters dies, at 85, in the night after a French interview that was going to expose details about the first moon walk, it was scheduled for the next day he did not survive the night. 6min 20 secs into video [link to mountzion144.ning.com] ... share_post Listen to what the New York Herald tribune says in the video. This link does not exist any more, after I posted it, it was removed....hmmm Last Edited by nzreva on 01/03/2013 10:35 AM |
nzreva (OP) User ID: 19624091 United States 01/03/2013 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My Husband Directed The Fake Moon Landing Says Stanley Kubrick's Widow. Quoting: nzreva In the video 6min 20 secs interview General Walters dies, at 85, in the night after a French interview that was going to expose details about the first moon walk, it was scheduled for the next day he did not survive the night. 6min 20 secs into video [link to mountzion144.ning.com] share_post Listen to what the New York Herald tribune says in the video. More [link to thebodyofjesusthenazoraion.com] Hi. Just watched this clip and I don't hear Cristina Kubrick say at any point that her husband "directed the fake moon landing". In fact, none of the other speakers (apart from the interviewer at one point) mentions Stanley's name at all. While we can assume that Jan Harlan and Cristina Kubrick were referring to Stanley Kubrick when they were speaking, there is no way to know the context of what they were saying. Rumsfeld could've been describing someone else entirely, for all we know. This clip is a total hack-job IMO, someone has put it together to garner a bit of traction for their own agenda - trying to 'cash in' on the current interest in this topic. For the record, I do believe that Stanley made the moon footage - but clips like this one only serve to muddy the waters for those of us interested in finding out what went on. Danny I appreciate your comment, but you never gave your not muddied truth. At least not here. It is one thing to try and discredit something, but to step out and say what information that helps point to the truth is quite another. Last Edited by nzreva on 01/03/2013 10:54 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31624284 Finland 01/06/2013 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nearly every example of actual physical evidence in favor of Apollo can be "explained" in terms of unmanned landings -- equipment deployment, sample retrieval, etc. As B.A. notes, the engineering would be non-trivial and there is the whole concealment issue. But the better refutation is the fact that engineering an automated system to do something is generally much more difficult than engineering something for use by a human to do the same thing. It's quite easy to engineer a lawn mower, for example, but much more difficult to engineer a lawn mower that can mow your lawn without direct human intervention. This is absolutely crucial to the hoax argument because the hoax theory is based on the premise that it was easier to fake the landing that to accomplish it. If it's more difficult to fake than to do it, just do it. And to address B.A.'s point, the notion that only the very few top officials at NASA knew of the hoax is ludicrous and expresses just how ignorant the the hoax believers are about engineering on a large scale. Do they really think it's credible to claim that Grumman built the lunar module without knowing whether or not it was capable of landing on the moon? A lot of people seem to think that NASA just handed these companies finished blueprints and said, "Here, build this," and they happily built it without knowing whether it was capable of accomplishing the claimed task. Let's get real. Much of the real expertise in Apollo was in the companies NASA hired. That's why you see people at the launch pad in coveralls with "Boeing" or "North American" or "Bendix" or "Grumman" logos on their backs. The notion that hundreds of thousands of highly-trained, consummately experienced people were duped into building useless and non-functional technology is highly incredible, as is the assertion that a shadow organization of commensurate size and expertise was formed to falsify all the evidence, and there is zero evidence of that organization today. |
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pinkpixiexx User ID: 9096725 United Kingdom 01/06/2013 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I strongly believe in having an Open Mind....and that to me means always Open to All possibilities. I've listened to those who explain the anomalies etc and some of these explanations seem reasonable also. I watched Mythbusters demonstrate the moving flag in no atmosphere...and so on. I was kind of hovering mid way between hoax or true although I do think to pull a hoax like that would require so much effort and so many people to be part of it and would be so very difficult with the world watching!! Also, they may have done this once but would they really have risked the secret by pulling this hoax again..and again...and again..etc...no way! Anyway, the final thing that convinced me that they did go to the moon ever time was a documentary...First On The Moon; the untold story. which I have recorded from the Science Discovery Channel. It shows all the things that went wrong and or nearly went wrong and explains all the things that were so risky and how they really nearly didn't make it. It has footage of ground control and in Apollo 11 from the time. One of the things they reveal is that soon after launch they were followed by a UFO but they knew they couldn't refer to it as such and were later briefed never to discuss this incident. Then when they tried to sleep they did keep seeing flashes inside Apollo which were later identified as Z particles penetrating the capsule which they admit they still don't know long term effects on humans. There is loads of facts given in this documentary and I strongly recommend watching it ...very interesting. "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace" "Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” |
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pinkpixiexx User ID: 9096725 United Kingdom 01/06/2013 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn....seem to have been a Thread Killer!!!...lol "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace" "Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” |
nzreva (OP) User ID: 19624091 United States 01/15/2013 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I first became aware of the Moon Hoax theory I was as excited as everyone else that the evidence presented proved the images etc were faked and that it was impossible due to all the factors that are stated as being impossible to overcome and so on. Quoting: pinkpixiexx I strongly believe in having an Open Mind....and that to me means always Open to All possibilities. I've listened to those who explain the anomalies etc and some of these explanations seem reasonable also. I watched Mythbusters demonstrate the moving flag in no atmosphere...and so on. I was kind of hovering mid way between hoax or true although I do think to pull a hoax like that would require so much effort and so many people to be part of it and would be so very difficult with the world watching!! Also, they may have done this once but would they really have risked the secret by pulling this hoax again..and again...and again..etc...no way! Anyway, the final thing that convinced me that they did go to the moon ever time was a documentary...First On The Moon; the untold story. which I have recorded from the Science Discovery Channel. It shows all the things that went wrong and or nearly went wrong and explains all the things that were so risky and how they really nearly didn't make it. It has footage of ground control and in Apollo 11 from the time. One of the things they reveal is that soon after launch they were followed by a UFO but they knew they couldn't refer to it as such and were later briefed never to discuss this incident. Then when they tried to sleep they did keep seeing flashes inside Apollo which were later identified as Z particles penetrating the capsule which they admit they still don't know long term effects on humans. There is loads of facts given in this documentary and I strongly recommend watching it ...very interesting. I have not problem with events after the first moon landing, this thread is only dealing with the first supposedly moon landing. I have, as you watched and read for many years both sides, I know Nixon was a liar, and those that wanted this to happen for America, also lied about many issues, I will as of now still believe we did not go to the moon, Russia will be going, it will be interesting to know what they say.... |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 31033756 Netherlands 01/15/2013 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I first became aware of the Moon Hoax theory I was as excited as everyone else that the evidence presented proved the images etc were faked Quoting: pinkpixiexx But it didn't. None of the images were ever proven to be faked to the satisfaction of RL experts. And it does take professional expertise to demonstrate something is fake. Such claims usually boil down to "I don't understand what I'm looking at." and that it was impossible due to all the factors that are stated as being impossible to overcome and so on. Quoting: pinkpixiexx Statements not supported by any RL expert. The hoaxie's claim that manned moon travel is impossible is not based on any scientific facts. Anyway, the final thing that convinced me that they did go to the moon ever time was a documentary...First On The Moon; the untold story. which I have recorded from the Science Discovery Channel. It shows all the things that went wrong and or nearly went wrong and explains all the things that were so risky and how they really nearly didn't make it. It has footage of ground control and in Apollo 11 from the time. Quoting: pinkpixiexx So it was dangerous. And? One of the things they reveal is that soon after launch they were followed by a UFO but they knew they couldn't refer to it as such and were later briefed never to discuss this incident. Quoting: pinkpixiexx Bullocks. It's all in the mission report and they talked about it all the time. You just try to shut up Aldrin if he's trying to be *mysteeeerious*. Then when they tried to sleep they did keep seeing flashes inside Apollo which were later identified as Z particles penetrating the capsule which they admit they still don't know long term effects on humans. Quoting: pinkpixiexx This was a known phenomenon. The VARBs don't stop high-energetic cosmic particles. That's how we knew they existed before space travel. Again, they took risks. And? Radiation is of course more of a problem for long-term missions, like the ISS which dips into the SAA every 70 minutes. Like nuclear industry workers astronauts have a lifetime exposure limit. They are monitored all the time, if they reach the limit they are grounded for life. There is loads of facts given in this documentary and I strongly recommend watching it Quoting: pinkpixiexx None of those facts are indications, never mind evidence, of a hoax. And not all of them are true. [link to www.badastronomy.com] I have not problem with events after the first moon landing, this thread is only dealing with the first supposedly moon landing. Quoting: nzreva What is the difference between Apollo 11 and the others? I have, as you watched and read for many years both sides, I know Nixon was a liar, and those that wanted this to happen for America, also lied about many issues, Quoting: nzreva Nixon just inherited the programme from Kennedy/Johnson and he killed at soon it was politically opportune. He'd been president for just 6 months by the time of Apollo 11. Anyhoo, this is an ad hominem argument, Nixon being a crook isn't by itself evidence he lied about this. It certainly isn't evidence that the hundreds of thousands of others actually involved in the project lied. So you do believe that Apollo 12, 14, 15, 16, and 17 were hoaxed as well? You know the drill, extraordinary claims and such... They always said that America landed men on the Moon and returned them safely to Earth. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |