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Obama stole $700 billion from Medicare to fund Obamacare

 
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betcha it went som wheres else...to fund som thang he want to fund on the sly...
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You mean jihad
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08/12/2012 12:15 PM
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lmao

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Many opponents are focusing on changes to the Medicare program that will reduce the federal deficit by more than $500 billion in the next decade, deceivingly claiming these savings come from devastating cuts to the program. Opponents of the law also misstate that seniors will be negatively affected by the changes. They conveniently leave out some important details, among them that the Affordable Care Act actually:

- Provides many preventive services and screenings for free

- Reduces prescription costs for Medicare enrollees

- Improves the care and coverage provided to senior citizens

- Extends the life of the program by keeping costs under control and paying for care more efficiently

To say the Affordable Care Act takes money away from Medicare and raises costs for seniors is grossly misleading and overly simplistic. Obamacare actually improves the program for Medicare beneficiaries. Here’s why......
[link to www.americanprogress.org]





It's pretty rich to hear Repulsikans pretend to be concerned about Medicare!
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American Progress is yet another Soros funded lying machine. When will you ever learn?
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oh that's some hilarious shit there! you mean they took money from one health care program to fund the new health care program? holy fuck! there's no low of bullshit you republicans won't stoop to huh?
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Reading comprehension skills are your friend.

He (Obama), not they. Obama is a democrat.

Idiot.
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08/12/2012 12:27 PM
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we are lucky if that is all he steals... next it will be the kitchen sink...

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Just wait until Obama loses fair and square in November.

IF we can make him leave office without the US military prying
his socialist ass out of the Oval Office, he will be gifting moneys
to his political buddies and granting amnesty for his Chicago
criminal pals.


Obama will be like an African dictator destroying everything
he can before he's run out of office.

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Exactly.
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go back to sleep
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08/12/2012 12:39 PM
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Re: Obama stole $700 billion from Medicare to fund Obamacare
Here's what Repulsikans think about Medicare.

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08/12/2012 12:49 PM

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This is of course just another repuke lie:


The bill doesn't take money out of the current Medicare budget but, rather, it attempts to slow the program's future growth, curtailing just over $500 billion in anticipated spending increases over the next 10 years. Medicare spending will still increase, however. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects Medicare spending will reach $929 billion in 2020, up from $499 billion in actual spending in 2009.

So while the health care law reduces the amount of future spending growth in Medicare, the law doesn't cut current funding for Medicare.

Still, where does the $500 billion in future savings come from?

Nearly $220 billion comes from reducing annual increases in payments that health care providers would otherwise receive from Medicare. Other savings include $36 billion from increases in premiums for higher-income beneficiaries and $12 billion from administrative changes. A new national board -- the Independent Payment Advisory Board -- will be tasked to identify $15.5 billion in savings, but the board is prohibited from proposing anything that would ration care or reduce or modify benefits. Then there's another $136 billion in projected savings that would come from changes to the Medicare Advantage program, an alternative to traditional Medicare that has turned out to be much more costly than expected. About 25 percent of Medicare beneficiaries are enrolled in a Medicare Advantage plan.

[link to www.politifact.com]
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Independent Payment Advisory Board = DEATH PANELS!

Withhold treatment and that saves a lot of money! Ask the NHS in Britain which is credited with 130,000 early deaths but they saved money. Obama has already said this is the model he likes best, too.
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This is of course just another repuke lie:


The bill doesn't take money out of the current Medicare budget but, rather, it attempts to slow the program's future growth, curtailing just over $500 billion in anticipated spending increases over the next 10 years. Medicare spending will still increase, however. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects Medicare spending will reach $929 billion in 2020, up from $499 billion in actual spending in 2009.

So while the health care law reduces the amount of future spending growth in Medicare, the law doesn't cut current funding for Medicare.

Still, where does the $500 billion in future savings come from?

Nearly $220 billion comes from reducing annual increases in payments that health care providers would otherwise receive from Medicare. Other savings include $36 billion from increases in premiums for higher-income beneficiaries and $12 billion from administrative changes. A new national board -- the Independent Payment Advisory Board -- will be tasked to identify $15.5 billion in savings, but the board is prohibited from proposing anything that would ration care or reduce or modify benefits. Then there's another $136 billion in projected savings that would come from changes to the Medicare Advantage program, an alternative to traditional Medicare that has turned out to be much more costly than expected. About 25 percent of Medicare beneficiaries are enrolled in a Medicare Advantage plan.

[link to www.politifact.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21774931


Independent Payment Advisory Board = DEATH PANELS!

Withhold treatment and that saves a lot of money! Ask the NHS in Britain which is credited with 130,000 early deaths but they saved money. Obama has already said this is the model he likes best, too.
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"The board is prohibited from proposing anything that would ration care or reduce or modify benefits."

Left that part out, didn't you?!

You Repulsikans have already killed several million Americans the last several decades with your opposition to expanding coverage, so stuff it.
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08/12/2012 12:59 PM
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Re: Obama stole $700 billion from Medicare to fund Obamacare
The govt. convinced our current older generation to buy into the social security and medicare program and then they robbed it and call it an entitlement.

What's the difference in a grandchild going to Vegas with Granny's savings and GSA doing it?

It's illegal for the grandchild to rob Granny, but legal for GSA because they are the govt.

Any grandkids out there want to go to Mars? The govt. already said screw Granny and went. LOL
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oh that's some hilarious shit there! you mean they took money from one health care program to fund the new health care program? holy fuck! there's no low of bullshit you republicans won't stoop to huh?
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shill
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Here's what Repulsikans think about Medicare.


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bsflag
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Here's what Repulsikans think about Medicare.


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Liberals only have fear and control. Almost used up and America is starting to see the light.
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we are lucky if that is all he steals... next it will be the kitchen sink...
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Or maybe the bronze bust of Churchill, O yeah that classy pair gave it back to England with a slap in the face. At least his solar companies funded by the American TRUST paid him well, remember he scrubbed the White House log showing the Corp. Execs. of solandra? Bet he won't be touting that crap in his next run for re~election. He might as well hang the towel up, cauz he is all washed up.
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oh that's some hilarious shit there! you mean they took money from one health care program to fund the new health care program? holy fuck! there's no low of bullshit you republicans won't stoop to huh?
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You can't figure out that if you have to play a shell game of stealing money from one failing bankrupt health care program to prop up another soon to fail program that there is a problem?
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If obamacare is so good why do we have medicare and medicaid too? force the old people to buy their own insurance just like obammacare is forcing young people to buy their own or pay a fine.

most old people have hefty retirements and social security, surely they can afford it better than a young family trying to raise kids?
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I KNOW HORRIFIC JUST LEAVE THE ELDERLY TO DIE IS WHAT HE IS DOING.
MAGDALENE
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Barrak Hussein Obama is a Kenyan Marxist riding dirty on us.
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oh that's some hilarious shit there! you mean they took money from one health care program to fund the new health care program? holy fuck! there's no low of bullshit you republicans won't stoop to huh?
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wow you dirty little demoncrrate!

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obongo is a communist and that's what communists do
Reince Priebus did not hold back this morning on Meet the Press with David Gregory. The RNC chief blasted Obama, “This President stole $700 billion from Medicare to fund Obamacare… If anyone in this debate has blood on his hands in regard to Medicare it’s Barack Obama.”


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US Infidelis
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This is of course just another repuke lie:


The bill doesn't take money out of the current Medicare budget but, rather, it attempts to slow the program's future growth, curtailing just over $500 billion in anticipated spending increases over the next 10 years. Medicare spending will still increase, however. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects Medicare spending will reach $929 billion in 2020, up from $499 billion in actual spending in 2009.

So while the health care law reduces the amount of future spending growth in Medicare, the law doesn't cut current funding for Medicare.

Still, where does the $500 billion in future savings come from?

Nearly $220 billion comes from reducing annual increases in payments that health care providers would otherwise receive from Medicare. Other savings include $36 billion from increases in premiums for higher-income beneficiaries and $12 billion from administrative changes. A new national board -- the Independent Payment Advisory Board -- will be tasked to identify $15.5 billion in savings, but the board is prohibited from proposing anything that would ration care or reduce or modify benefits. Then there's another $136 billion in projected savings that would come from changes to the Medicare Advantage program, an alternative to traditional Medicare that has turned out to be much more costly than expected. About 25 percent of Medicare beneficiaries are enrolled in a Medicare Advantage plan.

[link to www.politifact.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21774931


Independent Payment Advisory Board = DEATH PANELS!

Withhold treatment and that saves a lot of money! Ask the NHS in Britain which is credited with 130,000 early deaths but they saved money. Obama has already said this is the model he likes best, too.
 Quoting: Bluebird



"The board is prohibited from proposing anything that would ration care or reduce or modify benefits."

Left that part out, didn't you?!

You Repulsikans have already killed several million Americans the last several decades with your opposition to expanding coverage, so stuff it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21774931


Appeal to emotion with no facts is a favorite tactic of the collectivists.
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I KNOW HORRIFIC JUST LEAVE THE ELDERLY TO DIE IS WHAT HE IS DOING.
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Well Obamas solution is to give them a pain pill.
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If obamacare is so good why do we have medicare and medicaid too? force the old people to buy their own insurance just like obammacare is forcing young people to buy their own or pay a fine.

most old people have hefty retirements and social security, surely they can afford it better than a young family trying to raise kids?
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I know many who can't afford it, so what about them. The govt. convinced them to buy into the medicare program and vote for the politicians pushing it.

It's moral and ethical for the govt. to have lied to them? Wait a minute, that is the same govt. that says it's immoral to walk away from a home mortgage. LOL

I agree either one isn't the best ethics, but let's level the playing field. Broken agreements are always less than stellar morals.
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On 3 different instances Congress was at an impass on the budget and MSM was saying, "Will the Social Security checks go out?"

The objective is to scare the living sh!t out of the old folks. The same old folks who had a hand in the building of American corporations to what they are today.

Sad is what it is.
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barf bama
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If obamacare is so good why do we have medicare and medicaid too? force the old people to buy their own insurance just like obammacare is forcing young people to buy their own or pay a fine.

most old people have hefty retirements and social security, surely they can afford it better than a young family trying to raise kids?
 Quoting: Davvi


I know many who can't afford it, so what about them. The govt. convinced them to buy into the medicare program and vote for the politicians pushing it.

It's moral and ethical for the govt. to have lied to them? Wait a minute, that is the same govt. that says it's immoral to walk away from a home mortgage. LOL

I agree either one isn't the best ethics, but let's level the playing field. Broken agreements are always less than stellar morals.
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If an individual lies to the government, it's a crime. If a government lies to the masses, it's propaganda. Guess which is easier to accept by the ever-denying society?
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:barf bama:
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ohyeah
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If obamacare is so good why do we have medicare and medicaid too? force the old people to buy their own insurance just like obammacare is forcing young people to buy their own or pay a fine.

most old people have hefty retirements and social security, surely they can afford it better than a young family trying to raise kids?
 Quoting: Davvi


I know many who can't afford it, so what about them. The govt. convinced them to buy into the medicare program and vote for the politicians pushing it.

It's moral and ethical for the govt. to have lied to them? Wait a minute, that is the same govt. that says it's immoral to walk away from a home mortgage. LOL

I agree either one isn't the best ethics, but let's level the playing field. Broken agreements are always less than stellar morals.
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I wrote what I did to prove a point. How many damn government programs are we going to have to service the poor? We already have 80 that is 8 0 programs to provide help for the poor and yet we still have poor. Now we have generations of poor who have never earned a lick in their lives, but feel entitled to what other people earn.

Someone who is over 65 and a multi-millionaire still gets medicare and social security? How does this make any sense to the young family who is trying to raise a family on one salary and paying taxes through the nose? The one size fits all of social security, medicare and ssi doesn't work and is costing us billion, no wait trillions and we still have not cured poverty, indeed it has increased.
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someone needs to tell Romney and Ryan to stop wearing matching shirts though, they look like they're going to do a vaudeville act. ;)
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They sure are, sweet cheeks. They going to tap dance all over Obama's raisin head just like Bo Jangles does.
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You people will just say anything, to deny your a f in racist won't you... Sad, really, its because of people like yourself that society is in the shape its in. The sooner people like yourself realize that & get help, the sooner this world, can move forward & if you think voting for the other guy in this coming election is going to make any difference at all, then your in worse shape than you let on.
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