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HUGE Louisiana sinkhole! PART 2

 
psyoptics

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The air sample collected on August 16, 2012, from the residential area at the intersection of La Highway 70 and Gumbo St. contained the largest number of detectable chemicals which consisted of a number of natural gas components as well as volatile organic chemicals associated with diesel. The air sample contained 0.81 ppbv of 2-Butanone, 1.91 ppbv of Chloromethane, and nine tentatively identified compounds, such as isobutane, 39.06 ppbv, propane, 44.75 ppbv, and 2-methyl pentane 8.09 ppbv.

The health impacts associated with the chemicals detected in the air in the residential area consist of:
-known and possible cancer causing agents
-respiratory irritants
-skin, eye, nose, throat, and lung irritants
cause:
-headaches, nausea, vomiting
-difficulty breathing
-dizziness
-lightheadedness
-weakness
-muscle aches and pains
-joint pain
-abdominal pain
-stress

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volatile organic chemicals associated with diesel

did they ever explain this?

has this hole structure cracked and now there is just one huge dome of chemical soup?
with some added METHANE GAS for good measures?

a good video editor can make anyone say anything the editor wants.
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The air sample collected on August 16, 2012, from the residential area at the intersection of La Highway 70 and Gumbo St. contained the largest number of detectable chemicals which consisted of a number of natural gas components as well as volatile organic chemicals associated with diesel. The air sample contained 0.81 ppbv of 2-Butanone, 1.91 ppbv of Chloromethane, and nine tentatively identified compounds, such as isobutane, 39.06 ppbv, propane, 44.75 ppbv, and 2-methyl pentane 8.09 ppbv.

The health impacts associated with the chemicals detected in the air in the residential area consist of:
-known and possible cancer causing agents
-respiratory irritants
-skin, eye, nose, throat, and lung irritants
cause:
-headaches, nausea, vomiting
-difficulty breathing
-dizziness
-lightheadedness
-weakness
-muscle aches and pains
-joint pain
-abdominal pain
-stress

[link to www.stuarthsmith.com]


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volatile organic chemicals associated with diesel

did they ever explain this?

has this hole structure cracked and now there is just one huge dome of chemical soup?
with some added METHANE GAS for good measures?

 Quoting: psyoptics


Found this pdf on salt and pot ash mining one of the way they seal a salt mine is with diesel.

[link to www.osti.gov]

The 5 12 bulkhead test is a partially completed experiment conducted by IMC and PCS. The
arrangement of the test was to have involved three bulkheads as shown in Figure 3, but only
two were placed. The test was to demonstrate that the DRZ surrounding mined rooms could
be sealed using a combination of two concrete dams and an over-pressurized interval between
them. The idea is that if a head of brine is downstream from the first concrete dam and a fluid
(less dense than the brine; say, diesel) is pressurized above the brine. it will prevent flow along the DZR.

On page 62, there may be more refferances aswell.

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I just got done listening to this clip from Believers Underground... I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, I apologize if it has. Listen from about 12:45..
Says something about a vacuum effect and "they' know it's going to happen in LA

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I just got done listening to this clip from Believers Underground... I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, I apologize if it has. Listen from about 12:45..
Says something about a vacuum effect and "they' know it's going to happen in LA


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Wow! nice find from 2010!
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I just got done listening to this clip from Believers Underground... I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, I apologize if it has. Listen from about 12:45..
Says something about a vacuum effect and "they' know it's going to happen in LA


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Wow! nice find from 2010!
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As soon as he said that the first thing I thought was the sinkhole! I love this guy, makes too much sense and it's not as complicated as people make it out to be.
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Texas Brine officials said in a news release Friday that approximately 100 feet of caprock remains before the drilling bit reaches the salt dome. The company’s cavern in the salt dome starts at 3,400 feet underground.

[link to www.examiner.com]

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Texas Brine officials said in a news release Friday that approximately 100 feet of caprock remains before the drilling bit reaches the salt dome. The company’s cavern in the salt dome starts at 3,400 feet underground.

[link to www.examiner.com]

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That was a bit faster tan they expected. Didn't they originally say about 40 days? I'm on pins and needles waiting to hear what comes of this.
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It has been brought to our attention that some people are speculating about alarms going off in the Bayou Corne area.

[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]
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It has been brought to our attention that some people are speculating about alarms going off in the Bayou Corne area.

[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]
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That does not make any sense what so ever. People are obviously hearing something.
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And people were told to go home and inspect for cracks in the ground, sinking, foul odors, etc. and report if anything found or heard!
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What could people be hearing? Is the power still out there? If so, I wouldn't think it would be a smoke detector or something of that matter. Maybe work trucks backing up? I wonder if people are hearing something or if it's a hoax..

Either way I find it funny that there is a potential disaster going on and nobody is there... even if it's a holiday weekend,
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And people were told to go home and inspect for cracks in the ground, sinking, foul odors, etc. and report if anything found or heard!
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Maybe it's a don't bother us till we are open type thing.
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Re: HUGE Louisiana sinkhole! PART 2
Jindal Avoids Sinkhole-Danger Talk + Integrity Reports on the Salt Dome

[link to lasinkhole.wordpress.com]

hf
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Re: HUGE Louisiana sinkhole! PART 2
Gov. Bobby Piyush Jindal has done it again.

Just when you think he can’t get any more arrogant, he responds by flexing his string bean Barney Fife-like muscles at President Obama over—you guessed it—federal funds.

[link to www.bayoubuzz.com]
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Louisiana sinkhole area residents reported to Assumption Parish officials hearing alarms over the weekend, but were told by officials that alarms are not going off. The alarm reports coincide with a spike in seismic activity, according to The University of Memphis Center for Earthquake Research and Information (CERI), and also might coincide with resumed drilling into the sinkhole area after Tropical Storm Isaac left it.

Just hearing bells? Alarms heard might link to Bayou Corne sinkhole area seismic activity at Monitor #3 on Hwy. 70

[link to www.examiner.com]

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Re: HUGE Louisiana sinkhole! PART 2
EQ just south of Mobile 3.2
Shows up on ANF, but not on USGS
[link to anf.ucsd.edu]
Latitude 30.2274
Longitude -87.9556
Magnitude 3.2 ml
Depth 5 km
UTC Time 07:35:47 UTC Monday September 3rd, 2012
Location Western Florida, Eastern North America

Lots of tremors in the area. You can see them here...
[link to rev.seis.sc.edu]
[link to rev.seis.sc.edu]
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EQ just south of Mobile 3.2
Shows up on ANF, but not on USGS
[link to anf.ucsd.edu]
Latitude 30.2274
Longitude -87.9556
Magnitude 3.2 ml
Depth 5 km
UTC Time 07:35:47 UTC Monday September 3rd, 2012
Location Western Florida, Eastern North America

Lots of tremors in the area. You can see them here...
[link to rev.seis.sc.edu]
[link to rev.seis.sc.edu]
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bump
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Here is a link to the monitors in Bayou Corne. It seems like LA03 is the most active!

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]


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Here is a link to the monitors in Bayou Corne. It seems like LA03 is the most active!

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]


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It might be the closest to the drilling, but then again, I thought they were off over the weekend?
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Copy of the latest EPA findings!

[link to dnr.louisiana.gov]

hf
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Copy of the latest EPA findings!

[link to dnr.louisiana.gov]

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These thermal contouring levels were selected to begin at temperatures that are above the ambient levels found within the field of view, increasing in five degree increments to the maximum of 60°C. The thermal contrast is greatest where the surface materials are significantly different. The highest contour level (60°C) consists of a very small percentage of the scene and appears to be associated directly to some type of operating mechanical equipment. Those levels over 55°C are still a low percentage and occur where some activity at an operating facility is contributing thermal energy to the nearby surrounding materials. The contour levels over 45°C (blue and green) are consistent with surface materials that differ significantly from naturally occurring materials, such as manmade equipment, structures or construction materials. The sinkhole area has a thermal profile that indicates either man made materials, such as a petroleum product at the surface, or some externally heated naturally occurring material, such as upwelling deep subsurface brine. The booms present in the sink hole area appear to be performing their intended role of separating materials at the surface. Upwelling hot brine would quickly transfer heat to all fluids in the sinkhole regardless of their separation by surface booms.

Guess someone new this info already.
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Copy of the latest EPA findings!

[link to dnr.louisiana.gov]

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These thermal contouring levels were selected to begin at temperatures that are above the ambient levels found within the field of view, increasing in five degree increments to the maximum of 60°C. The thermal contrast is greatest where the surface materials are significantly different. The highest contour level (60°C) consists of a very small percentage of the scene and appears to be associated directly to some type of operating mechanical equipment. Those levels over 55°C are still a low percentage and occur where some activity at an operating facility is contributing thermal energy to the nearby surrounding materials. The contour levels over 45°C (blue and green) are consistent with surface materials that differ significantly from naturally occurring materials, such as manmade equipment, structures or construction materials. The sinkhole area has a thermal profile that indicates either man made materials, such as a petroleum product at the surface, or some externally heated naturally occurring material, such as upwelling deep subsurface brine. The booms present in the sink hole area appear to be performing their intended role of separating materials at the surface. Upwelling hot brine would quickly transfer heat to all fluids in the sinkhole regardless of their separation by surface booms.

Guess someone new this info already.
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The pic this is refering to is on the last page of the report.
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Re: HUGE Louisiana sinkhole! PART 2
EQ just south of Mobile 3.2
Shows up on ANF, but not on USGS
[link to anf.ucsd.edu]
Latitude 30.2274
Longitude -87.9556
Magnitude 3.2 ml
Depth 5 km
UTC Time 07:35:47 UTC Monday September 3rd, 2012
Location Western Florida, Eastern North America

Lots of tremors in the area. You can see them here...
[link to rev.seis.sc.edu]
[link to rev.seis.sc.edu]
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not good even to today

wtf is happening?

is the dome(s) fracturing?

wow
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09/04/2012 11:14 PM
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Copy of the latest EPA findings!

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These thermal contouring levels were selected to begin at temperatures that are above the ambient levels found within the field of view, increasing in five degree increments to the maximum of 60°C. The thermal contrast is greatest where the surface materials are significantly different. The highest contour level (60°C) consists of a very small percentage of the scene and appears to be associated directly to some type of operating mechanical equipment. Those levels over 55°C are still a low percentage and occur where some activity at an operating facility is contributing thermal energy to the nearby surrounding materials. The contour levels over 45°C (blue and green) are consistent with surface materials that differ significantly from naturally occurring materials, such as manmade equipment, structures or construction materials. The sinkhole area has a thermal profile that indicates either man made materials, such as a petroleum product at the surface, or some externally heated naturally occurring material, such as upwelling deep subsurface brine. The booms present in the sink hole area appear to be performing their intended role of separating materials at the surface. Upwelling hot brine would quickly transfer heat to all fluids in the sinkhole regardless of their separation by surface booms.

Guess someone new this info already.
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The pic this is refering to is on the last page of the report.
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what about the big square SE in the big pic?
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Copy of the latest EPA findings!

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These thermal contouring levels were selected to begin at temperatures that are above the ambient levels found within the field of view, increasing in five degree increments to the maximum of 60°C. The thermal contrast is greatest where the surface materials are significantly different. The highest contour level (60°C) consists of a very small percentage of the scene and appears to be associated directly to some type of operating mechanical equipment. Those levels over 55°C are still a low percentage and occur where some activity at an operating facility is contributing thermal energy to the nearby surrounding materials. The contour levels over 45°C (blue and green) are consistent with surface materials that differ significantly from naturally occurring materials, such as manmade equipment, structures or construction materials. The sinkhole area has a thermal profile that indicates either man made materials, such as a petroleum product at the surface, or some externally heated naturally occurring material, such as upwelling deep subsurface brine. The booms present in the sink hole area appear to be performing their intended role of separating materials at the surface. Upwelling hot brine would quickly transfer heat to all fluids in the sinkhole regardless of their separation by surface booms.

Guess someone new this info already.
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The pic this is refering to is on the last page of the report.
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what about the big square SE in the big pic?
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Yes I spotted that, on the report it says that is down to "Those levels over 55°C are still a low percentage and occur where some activity at an operating facility is contributing thermal energy to the nearby surrounding materials." I'm not to sure though, and I do not really know how these type of sites work.
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Re: HUGE Louisiana sinkhole! PART 2
According to the update we were provided on yesterday, Texas Brine is a bit ahead of schedule as the cement cure time is set for 10:00 p.m. and drilling operations will resume.

[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]

Chevron has advised that the
depressurizing of the pipeline noted in this morning’s update could start as early as 10:00 a.m.

[link to assumptionla.wordpress.com]

hf
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Re: HUGE Louisiana sinkhole! PART 2
All of the monitors at the sinkhole are picking up the Costa Rica EQ!

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]

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All of the monitors at the sinkhole are picking up the Costa Rica EQ!

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]

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That's normal, but the vibrations can't be good for the situation.

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