If humanity had no weapons what nation/people do you think would control the world?

The Viking nation.

The ones that started making weapons first?

i am talking about modern nations or people like Chinese, African, European, etc.

I would think they would be the weakest as they needed weapons to defend themselves.

The Nation with the sharpest sticks.

I hate to break this to you, but humans started building weapons just as soon as they evolved working thumbs to build them with.

If dolphins had thumbs, they'd be building them too.

That's what predators do.

And that is what we are.

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weapons were the FIRST TOOL we made

im fucking talking about unnatural weapons, turd.

The Netherlands, duh.

Unnatural weapons?

What's that?

A well thrown rock? A wooden spear? A flint knife? A tomahawk?

What exactly is an "unnatural weapon"?

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BUT WAIT! ITS ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE.


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Humanity Nation.

the easy answer is: "none". without modern weapons, "world dominance" is reasonably impossible. thats basically why all those ancient empires failed when they expanded, dilution of the military. now a question of definition for you, OP... what exactly constitutes an "unnatural" weapon? is a bronze gladius any more natural than a brown bess musket? is a knapped folsum point more natural than a hand grenade?

The ones who master fighting using the mind.

The Chinese Taoists.

Maybe he is talking about a weapon with moving parts or explosives, etc.

I think it is rather easy for the most part.
The answer would be similar to what it is now.
The bankers and the religious leaders.
Weapons and technology is going to be the reason why the masses will have no choice in the matter.
Those that control the wealth and the hearts/religious beliefs of the masses will be able to control people.
That control grows into every phase of one's life when technology and unlimited monetary resources lead to footmen to enforce whatever control is dictated by the controllers.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

ah

Computers are weapons too.

So are "laws". Both can be used to attack your enemies with.

Maybe the OP wants to do away with computers and laws too.

Extra-Terrestrials. We'd be defenseless.

gun, missile, etc...

and who are naturally the best fighters?

So you'd be cool with people attacking each other with computers, bows and arrows, laws, spears, mounted calvary and such like?

A fella named Genghis Khan murdered several million people and conquered most of Asia using just horses, spears, and bows and arrows.

You'd have no problem with that, I take it.

Say what you will, the Chinese have the edge.

Their success lies in the long game they play.

Whilst we Westerners are irretrievably mired in short termism and immediate gratification.

Arabs conquered a huge part of the world in the middle ages. Damn near took europe to if it wasn't for charles martel. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org]

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And it will work until the one Love, the one Wisdom and the one Truth envelop all of creation.
Then every living thing will praise God in sacred peace and harmony.

Peter Deunov (Beinsa Douno)

Also some chinese are masters at hand to hand combat.

This thread is stoopid.

Why? Because the uk is the obvious answer?

Nah, I would have to go with he Vikings.

I think the Viking Nation is good enough :)

The wealthiest, just like now!