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Message Subject Pray the rosary!
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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You can take your idolatrous ways with your beads and give yourself an enema cause only you catholics buy into that garbage. In Revelation the woman represents a church as you also find with her in the wilderness. Mary sleeps in the grave waiting the second coming of Jesus. Necromancy is also an abomination the God so stay in your deluded fantasy. Give me scripture not tradition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094

Notice everyone, Ac 42230.. does not reply to what is shared above. Just more denial and use of vulgarity. Stop with the vulgarity. Mary is the "woman" in Genesis 3:15, Jesus says "woman" in speaking to Mary several times and Mary is the "woman" in Revelation 12.

Ac, "soul sleep" isn't true. It comes from a non-Christian sect, 7th Day Adventists. Remember, God makes exceptions, He took two holy men (Enoc and Eliijah) in the OT to Heaven why would He not then, His very own mother! And what of the "transfiguration?" Who were those two men (Moses and Eliijah) if everyone is asleep in their grave? There are
saints in Heaven, not just the canonized, recognized saints,
there are millions of saints in Heaven.

The Bible, the Bible, show me in the Bible? I hear you, the
Bible says not all Jesus did is written in Scripture, it came first, we have the oral tradition too. The Bible is a Catholic book, deny it till God shows you in the Great Warning. God wants us all to believe the same, He wants you to choose for the faith very soon, maybe as soon as next year? 2013. I'll say a prayer...

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"Necromancy is consulting the dead in order to discern the future. The word necromancy derives from the νεκρός (nekrós), "dead", and μαντεία (manteía), "divination". First, the Saints in heaven are not "dead." They are alive in Christ - more alive than we are! "He is notGod of the dead, but of the living; you are quite wrong" (Mark 12:27). Secondly, Catholics do not ask the Saints for prayer so that they can forecast the future. Maybe somebody's aunt in Mexico conjures up things through burning herbs and invoking saints - but that is not what the Catholic Church teaches or promotes. It's an abuse, not the norm.

Ultimately, glorified Saints in heaven take up their priestly identity as the people of God. This priestly identity involves intercession and so they continue to love us and the only thing they can do is pray for us. "We are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses" (Hebrews 12:1)" Thanks, Dr. Taylor Marshall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213

Your full of shit, Mary is not in Genesis 3:15 it is referring to Jesus. You can put all your catholic traditions up against scripture and you will fail. The dead know nothing when they die their thoughts perish. There are certain people taken into heaven but Mary is not one. She was blessed amongst women but not mankind. catholics pray to dead saints and Mary in prayer. Mary is not a co-redeemer with Christ at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4223094

This is the last, I am not going to respond, help you again
until you clean up your language. What a gentleman.

All the things you say above are not true. You have no
authority. God gave the Church the authority to interpret
Scripture and to pass on God's revelation, the oral and
the written. God has given Christians a way, they can know
for sure, via the Church, the RCC.

You misinterpret "the dead know nothing." Read the footnote. Read the Douay-Rheims Bible, the footnotes help
you understand why the Church teaches what she does.

The Latin Vulgate, the first Bible is a word for word translation of the original writings. Thanks St. Jerome.

The Douay-Rheims is the English translation of the Latin Vulgate

[link to www.drbo.org]

Chapter 9 heading reads...the vanity of temporal things

Ecc 9:5
For the living know that they shall die, but the dead know nothing more, neither have they a reward any more: for the memory of them is forgotten.

[5] Know nothing more: Viz., as to the transactions of this world, in which they have now no part, unless it be revealed to them; neither have they any knowledge or power now of doing any thing to secure their eternal state, (if they have not taken care of it in their lifetime:) nor can they now procure themselves any good, as the living always may do, by the grace of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213

The Douay-Rheims is a catholic book and you know it. My language is no different than your idolatry so clean your tongue first. Peter which is what you call the rock is simply a pebble. Only Jesus Christ can be the rock. Peter was denied and rebuked by Paul and Jesus. Your church is the only one in the Bible that follows all the traits of the 1st beast system. The pope claims to be god on earth, claims to forgive sins, the catholic church has changed God's Sabbath day to SUNday, they worship Mary and dead saints, received indulgences from people to get loved one's out of fake purgatory, they have murdered the people of God, they have spread their filth everywhere but as I said before this beast or whore system will be toppled. If you want to believe the pope should be called holy and father than continue in that blasphemous system cause scripture warns us against the whore who rides the beast. And on a side note your infamous John Paul 2 said that evolution and the Bible are compatible, so don't throw your catholic books in the way here. The reformation brought us out of this system but now most Protestant churches are running back to it thanks to the counter-reformation, but there are people like me that will fight this whore till the end.
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