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Department of Homeland Security WTF ORDERING 750 MILLION ROUNDS OF AMMO...But Why??Civil War Preparations?

 
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Why are there 2 republics if China on yout list? First has 2 million second has like 200,000 + ? What's the dif. Between People's ROC and Plain ROC on your list?
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plain ROC is taiwan, geography-tard
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Why are there 2 republics if China on yout list? First has 2 million second has like 200,000 + ? What's the dif. Between People's ROC and Plain ROC on your list?
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I just quoted that list but it may be an elite fighting group(290,000)
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Why are there 2 republics if China on yout list? First has 2 million second has like 200,000 + ? What's the dif. Between People's ROC and Plain ROC on your list?
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plain ROC is taiwan, geography-tard
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ah ok , answered thx
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Re: Department of Homeland Security WTF ORDERING 750 MILLION ROUNDS OF AMMO...But Why??Civil War Preparations?
One thing is this ammo is above and beyond the military ammo.
The DHS is obamas federal police force
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Re: Department of Homeland Security WTF ORDERING 750 MILLION ROUNDS OF AMMO...But Why??Civil War Preparations?
ok, go back and read the actual beginning paragraph of each bid type. the numbers are a pool of guaranteed availability, that uncle will buy from during the contract period up to a number by the terms of the contract, or at a minimum 1000 rds per year per caliber and type. look at the breakdowns by caliber and bullet. it's an assortment of cop ammo, of pretty much every kind that might be used. now, let's consider the name of the subgroup of the DHS this order is for "the national law enforcement training center center". all the feds of pretty much any alphabet soup configuration do their training there. it also plays host to all kinds of classes for all kinds of cops: swat, counter-terrorism, officer survival, and all manner of simulated mayhem requiring deadly force. they probably burn through millions of rounds a year easily. the numbers arent firm orders. they're theoretical maximum orders per year, with a minimum purchase per year per type of 1000 rds to keep the contract valid. the numbers are probably the highest annual requirement for each type in the last 10 years or so.
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ok, go back and read the actual beginning paragraph of each bid type. the numbers are a pool of guaranteed availability, that uncle will buy from during the contract period up to a number by the terms of the contract, or at a minimum 1000 rds per year per caliber and type. look at the breakdowns by caliber and bullet. it's an assortment of cop ammo, of pretty much every kind that might be used. now, let's consider the name of the subgroup of the DHS this order is for "the national law enforcement training center center". all the feds of pretty much any alphabet soup configuration do their training there. it also plays host to all kinds of classes for all kinds of cops: swat, counter-terrorism, officer survival, and all manner of simulated mayhem requiring deadly force. they probably burn through millions of rounds a year easily. the numbers arent firm orders. they're theoretical maximum orders per year, with a minimum purchase per year per type of 1000 rds to keep the contract valid. the numbers are probably the highest annual requirement for each type in the last 10 years or so.
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Contracts don't BID on theory my friend. If you own a ballistics factory and your bidding on a gov't contract pricing is based on actual manufacturing numbers not theory. These are actual numbers. Now back to your training theory, who trains with HOLLOW POINTS?? It's far too expensive to train with Hollow Points and there are 450 million rounds of them in the order. Hollow points are made for maximum kill rate. You don't need to train with them...you just need to shoot someone with them.
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Re: Department of Homeland Security WTF ORDERING 750 MILLION ROUNDS OF AMMO...But Why??Civil War Preparations?
Another thought to this. There is only so much ammo that can be made in a year. So they buy it all up and we have NONE!!! Artificial price and demand problem for us. WTF is going on here?
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yeah ..jam the capacity and run up the price...although i can still buy 9mm..
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Another thought to this. There is only so much ammo that can be made in a year. So they buy it all up and we have NONE!!! Artificial price and demand problem for us. WTF is going on here?
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


yeah ..jam the capacity and run up the price...although i can still buy 9mm..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1513486


Yep the kings of price manipulation...US Gov't

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