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So A FRENCH NUCLEAR SUBMARINE was docking in SCOTLAND FOR THE OLYMPICS.

 
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We are talking for the first time ever foreign nuclear weapons within UK territory.
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[link to www.heraldscotland.com]


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The campaigners identified the boat as one of the four French Triomphant-class that usually carry nuclear weapons. They say this is the first time a nuclear-armed French submarine has been seen visiting the Clyde.

The first of the class, Le Triomphant, collided with the British submarine, HMS Vanguard, which carries Trident nuclear missiles, three years ago. The accident happened somewhere in the Atlantic, but details have been kept secret for national security reasons.
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I'm waiting for the punchline....


In the meantime heres a Mexican joke:


Do you know why the NEW Mexican Navy has glass bottom boats?


So they can find the old Mexican Navy.
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You're both fucking allies! British and French forces train together. American, Australian, British, Canadian, French, German,etc. train together. We're allies. What's the big deal with an ally nuke sub making a pit stop in Scootlund?
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You're both fucking allies! British and French forces train together. American, Australian, British, Canadian, French, German,etc. train together. We're allies. What's the big deal with an ally nuke sub making a pit stop in Scootlund?
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aye
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I'm waiting for the punchline....


In the meantime heres a Mexican joke:


Do you know why the NEW Mexican Navy has glass bottom boats?


So they can find the old Mexican Navy.
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rimshot
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Maybe helping to securize UK during Olympics.
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Perhaps Hollande is going to push ahead with the joint Nuclear defence program Cameron was talking about.. 4 subs for both nations rather than the existing 8 (or something like that)

I was hoping when Hollande took office he would burn the Anglo-French military treaty..
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You're both fucking allies! British and French forces train together. American, Australian, British, Canadian, French, German,etc. train together. We're allies. What's the big deal with an ally nuke sub making a pit stop in Scootlund?
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It is the first time that it has happened in the UK that's the big deal. Do you think the USA accepts any ARMED FRENCH NUCLEAR submarine in their homeland bases?

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Perhaps Hollande is going to push ahead with the joint Nuclear defence program Cameron was talking about.. 4 subs for both nations rather than the existing 8 (or something like that)

I was hoping when Hollande took office he would burn the Anglo-French military treaty..
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An informed opinion appreciated. But they better find another place to base cause apparently the Clyde doesn't want them there.
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You're both fucking allies! British and French forces train together. American, Australian, British, Canadian, French, German,etc. train together. We're allies. What's the big deal with an ally nuke sub making a pit stop in Scootlund?
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It is the first time that it has happened in the UK that's the big deal. Do you think the USA accepts any ARMED FRENCH NUCLEAR submarine in their homeland bases?
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No it means that the deal to share nuclear defence is going ahead.. even though I was hoping Hollande would burn that treaty.


"The possibility of a "shared" UK-French nuclear deterrent is set to be on the agenda of a summit between David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy in London this autumn.

A politically explosive proposal for joint Franco-British nuclear-submarine patrols – an idea sunk without trace in the recent past – has been brought back to the surface by the draconian defence cuts in both countries."

read more at: [link to www.independent.co.uk]
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Perhaps Hollande is going to push ahead with the joint Nuclear defence program Cameron was talking about.. 4 subs for both nations rather than the existing 8 (or something like that)

I was hoping when Hollande took office he would burn the Anglo-French military treaty..
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An informed opinion appreciated. But they better find another place to base cause apparently the Clyde doesn't want them there.
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No idea where they would want/plan to base them, But am sure with the referendum looming that the French would not consider Scotland the best place, at least until that is settled one way or other.

For me, the joint military treaty points only in one direction, giving the EU nuclear teeth through France and the UK.. I guess it has to start somewhere,

and no I don't like the idea, nothing wrong with the French, just to much distrust on both sides for it to really work.
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You're both fucking allies! British and French forces train together. American, Australian, British, Canadian, French, German,etc. train together. We're allies. What's the big deal with an ally nuke sub making a pit stop in Scootlund?
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It is the first time that it has happened in the UK that's the big deal. Do you think the USA accepts any ARMED FRENCH NUCLEAR submarine in their homeland bases?
 Quoting: monfra

Foreign naval vessels visit the U.S. all the time, including nuclear powered ones.

FYI:

The sub probably wasn't armed with nukes when it docked in Scotland.
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You're both fucking allies! British and French forces train together. American, Australian, British, Canadian, French, German,etc. train together. We're allies. What's the big deal with an ally nuke sub making a pit stop in Scootlund?
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It is the first time that it has happened in the UK that's the big deal. Do you think the USA accepts any ARMED FRENCH NUCLEAR submarine in their homeland bases?
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Last time, they didn't appreciate... yeahsure
Thread: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
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Wow, if the British public freak out about a known and trusted allied sub coming to a port of theirs, they would have immediate heart failure if they knew about the Russian subs prowling around all the time just a few miles offshore......
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Perhaps Hollande is going to push ahead with the joint Nuclear defence program Cameron was talking about.. 4 subs for both nations rather than the existing 8 (or something like that)

I was hoping when Hollande took office he would burn the Anglo-French military treaty..
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An informed opinion appreciated. But they better find another place to base cause apparently the Clyde doesn't want them there.
 Quoting: monfra


No idea where they would want/plan to base them, But am sure with the referendum looming that the French would not consider Scotland the best place, at least until that is settled one way or other.

For me, the joint military treaty points only in one direction, giving the EU nuclear teeth through France and the UK.. I guess it has to start somewhere,

and no I don't like the idea, nothing wrong with the French, just to much distrust on both sides for it to really work.
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This is a sore point for me regarding some of our allies and our treaties:

Some of our allies make a big song and dance about how anti-nuke they are *cough* Canada *cough*, but they're in defensive alliances that require American, British, and/or French nuke forces to come to their aid, if necessary. They have their cake and eat it,too.
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You're both fucking allies! British and French forces train together. American, Australian, British, Canadian, French, German,etc. train together. We're allies. What's the big deal with an ally nuke sub making a pit stop in Scootlund?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21640227


It is the first time that it has happened in the UK that's the big deal. Do you think the USA accepts any ARMED FRENCH NUCLEAR submarine in their homeland bases?
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Last time, they didn't appreciate... yeahsure
Thread: Something Just Went BEZERK in the Gulf of Mexico. The US Navy just sunk a French Submarine
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They don't appreciate foreign subs LURKING in or near U.S. Atlantic, Pacific, or Gulf of Mexico coasts. Big difference.
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Wow, if the British public freak out about a known and trusted allied sub coming to a port of theirs, they would have immediate heart failure if they knew about the Russian subs prowling around all the time just a few miles offshore......
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Are you Canadian? Do you know Canada had nukes on it's soil, basically under Canadian control, into the 1970s when Trudeau had them removed?
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You're both fucking allies! British and French forces train together. American, Australian, British, Canadian, French, German,etc. train together. We're allies. What's the big deal with an ally nuke sub making a pit stop in Scootlund?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21640227


It is the first time that it has happened in the UK that's the big deal. Do you think the USA accepts any ARMED FRENCH NUCLEAR submarine in their homeland bases?
 Quoting: monfra

Foreign naval vessels visit the U.S. all the time, including nuclear powered ones.

FYI:

The sub probably wasn't armed with nukes when it docked in Scotland.
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Of course you have a nuclear deterrent but is not loaded just in case it blows.
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eer no because the USA store nukes here , like that rendlashem forest base were the UFO event happend.

besides, why would we give a fuck about french nukes. We both have them we're both allies.
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Wow, if the British public freak out about a known and trusted allied sub coming to a port of theirs, they would have immediate heart failure if they knew about the Russian subs prowling around all the time just a few miles offshore......
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Shouldn't the British public have the right to know?
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We are talking for the first time ever foreign nuclear weapons within UK territory.
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Are you some sort of dip-shit.

American, French, Russian, who gives a shit. All types of military shipping has stopped over in the UK over the years, many carrying nuclear weapons. Our ships do exactly the same in foreign ports to re-fuel or stock up with provisions.

Are you a complete brain dead...

whatever
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Perhaps Hollande is going to push ahead with the joint Nuclear defence program Cameron was talking about.. 4 subs for both nations rather than the existing 8 (or something like that)

I was hoping when Hollande took office he would burn the Anglo-French military treaty..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20732143


An informed opinion appreciated. But they better find another place to base cause apparently the Clyde doesn't want them there.
 Quoting: monfra


No idea where they would want/plan to base them, But am sure with the referendum looming that the French would not consider Scotland the best place, at least until that is settled one way or other.

For me, the joint military treaty points only in one direction, giving the EU nuclear teeth through France and the UK.. I guess it has to start somewhere,

and no I don't like the idea, nothing wrong with the French, just to much distrust on both sides for it to really work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20732143


This is a sore point for me regarding some of our allies and our treaties:

Some of our allies make a big song and dance about how anti-nuke they are *cough* Canada *cough*, but they're in defensive alliances that require American, British, and/or French nuke forces to come to their aid, if necessary. They have their cake and eat it,too.
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Well I think some of this countries will feel like they are a victim of a protection racket. Lots of people in the world do not want protection by an oversize bully.
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We are talking for the first time ever foreign nuclear weapons within UK territory.
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Are you some sort of dip-shit.

American, French, Russian, who gives a shit. All types of military shipping has stopped over in the UK over the years, many carrying nuclear weapons. Our ships do exactly the same in foreign ports to re-fuel or stock up with provisions.

Are you a complete brain dead...

whatever
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Would you please read the link? Is not me who is saying this mate? Care to read it.
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nuclear powered or carrying nuclear weapons??

big difference..

and both have docked here many times many countries
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Well apparently this is a non-event a french nuclear submarine is docked in the UK while the Olympics are on but the public does not need to know. Ok cool, Nothing to see here!!! Keep on with your lives. God speed.

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