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Obama - Mandate - New regulation will force home homers to upgrade air conditioner $3000

 
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Sure we all know that R22 was going to be phased out by year 2020. However, the Obama Green Machine pushed major R22 reductions in March increasing the cost of R22 to go from $135 to $380 in one week.

To upgrade your air conditioner for the green refigurate will cost the average home owner $3000.00. There is more bad news 410a is not as effecient as R22 so there is a chance that even with the upgrade your home will be hot. Welcome to Obama Green Policy.
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Sure we all know that R22 was going to be phased out by year 2020. However, the Obama Green Machine pushed major R22 reductions in March increasing the cost of R22 to go from $135 to $380 in one week.

To upgrade your air conditioner for the green refigurate will cost the average home owner $3000.00. There is more bad news 410a is not as effecient as R22 so there is a chance that even with the upgrade your home will be hot. Welcome to Obama Green Policy.
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What? He is just looking after the middle class. 3,000 to middle class is couch change.
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Price for air-conditioning service has 'tripled to quadrupled' due to new EPA rules

Read more at Jacksonville.com: [link to jacksonville.com]

As temperatures increase with the onset of spring, so, too, will the cost for repairing and refilling air conditioners with the coolant gas known as Freon.

Northeast Florida air-conditioning contractors have already started to warn customers seeking repairs to brace for a dramatic jump in adding the gas that provides the coolant in air conditioners. Compared to a year ago, the price for putting Freon in a residential or commercial air conditioner will be radically more expensive.
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[link to r-22-refrigerants.blogspot.com]

NORTH TEXAS (CBSDFW.COM) - If the air conditioning unit at your home was manufactured before 2010 expect a common summer repair to cost up to triple the usual amount.

There is now a new, environmentally friendly, version of Freon — the coolant gas used in a/c units. With the development of the new U.S. Environmental Protection Agency-backed product, the old Freon, R-22, is being phased out.

Air conditioning professionals say with the elimination of R-22 consumers can expect repair costs to increase substantially.

“The refrigerant’s definitely gonna, it has tripled in cost so obviously that cost has be passed on to the consumer,” said Randy Kelly, with One Hour Heating & Air Conditioning. “So, if someone has a refrigerant leak and it has to have R-22 put back in it, it’s really gonna make that repair cost more.”

According to Kelly, the price for a pound of R-22 has jumped from around $20 a pound to up to $90.
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[link to comfortmasterslv.homestead.com]

Why is it so costly to change to an R-410A system?

If you choose to replace your system with an R-410A system, you will be forced to change the evaporator coil with the new R-410A air conditioner. This is required for a variety of reasons including thinner tube thickness and R-22 entrapment issues of which I will further explain later in this letter. The mandatory evaporator coil change out is costly since it is located in the attic area and in almost all cases in Red Rock, requires cutting of the trusses and/or removal of the furnace in order to remove the old coil and replace with a new coil. This is extremely labor intensive and may require additional drywall repair as well. The installation of an R-410A system can range from $7,963 to over $10,000 based on the difficulty and accessibility of the installation!
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More change the sheep voted for.
A pissed off American veteran!
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This is about UN's Agenda 21.

There are NO AIR CONDITIONERS ALLOWED (for the slaves) in their plan. Only the ELITES will have AC.
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home homers?

d'oh!
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i thought this already kicked in

had to replace a unit. The 12 year old one no longer could have coolant found the tech said. And i had to switch to this green unit

shitty
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Sure we all know that R22 was going to be phased out by year 2020. However, the Obama Green Machine pushed major R22 reductions in March increasing the cost of R22 to go from $135 to $380 in one week.

To upgrade your air conditioner for the green refigurate will cost the average home owner $3000.00. There is more bad news 410a is not as effecient as R22 so there is a chance that even with the upgrade your home will be hot. Welcome to Obama Green Policy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283908


What? He is just looking after the middle class. 3,000 to middle class is couch change.
 Quoting: sonic doom


WHAT???

ARE YOU ON DRUGS?????
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Same thing happened w/ R-12 in cars in the early 90's.

Last Edited by Justalittlebad on 08/13/2012 09:51 PM
Justalittlebad/more or less
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It gets better.


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Barrak Hussein Obama is a Kenyan Marxist riding dirty on us.
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Fug-it...

Window units all around.


I cant afford this shit!
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They need to find this motha fucka illegal so all this shit he's passed gets null and voided.
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i have 20 years in AC and have owned a company in FL for 8 of thos, one man show. i fully support and fully understand the harmful effects of the gasses i work with daily. the science is there. r22 destroys ozone period. r410a is a MUST to save what we have left. whoever it was that has come up with the plan to alleviate the ozone effects, came along way too late. the cost of this is being driven by not only the gasses, but also general inflation across the board.
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They need to find this motha fucka illegal so all this shit he's passed gets null and voided.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes



Who is "they?"

SCOTUS has ruled (correctly, but it sucks) that the slaves DO NOT have standing so won't hear their suits. Congress turned a blind eye when he was sworn in as IL Senator and again when he "ran" <cough cough> for president.

The fix is in. TPTB wanted the Illuminatus bastard in there, so that's what we got.
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LOL, idiot OP replaced EPA with OBAMA just to get a kick out of it. And it worked!

EPA is bought and paid for by the Corporations. The Corporations want you to buy a new less effiecent AC.

They did the same with the toilets.

We just bought a new LG washer and Dryer. The Commie Govt gave me a rebate of $80 for buying a H/E Washer.

These things are AMAZING! Super quiet and uses less water. My whites are whiter. Not sure how it works but damn, it works.
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They need to call Factory Direct,99 dollars in the box,,,,5a5a5a
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ditto
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The point is this was suppose to be phased in by 2012. Yet regulations passed in March reduced the R22 supply to triple the price not allowing middle class home owners time to adapt to the changes. Conversion is over 3000 and this is fair?
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Typo
Suppose to be phased in by 2020 and not 2012
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I have been stockpiling r22. The new condensing units are better actually but 410a is still new.
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It gets better.



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20863824




And the below-room-temperature sheeple STILL voted for this jug-eared jackass!! This clip was from BEFORE the 2008 election!
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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LOL, idiot OP replaced EPA with OBAMA just to get a kick out of it. And it worked!

EPA is bought and paid for by the Corporations. The Corporations want you to buy a new less effiecent AC.

They did the same with the toilets.

We just bought a new LG washer and Dryer. The Commie Govt gave me a rebate of $80 for buying a H/E Washer.

These things are AMAZING! Super quiet and uses less water. My whites are whiter. Not sure how it works but damn, it works.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18372701


Your a idiot

Everyone knows EPA = Green = Obama = Scam

Your not fooling anyone
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Re: Obama - Mandate - New regulation will force home homers to upgrade air conditioner $3000
The point is this was suppose to be phased in by 2012. Yet regulations passed in March reduced the R22 supply to triple the price not allowing middle class home owners time to adapt to the changes. Conversion is over 3000 and this is fair?
 Quoting: chemaster


not at all fair. the 08 crash has made it very hard on regular people to afford it. i have seen how copper, gasoline, gasses, all material has gone up. and i believe this is directly involved with market manipulation. and now codes i work by require more money out of broke homeowners. i think its a scam too.
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Hope and change for everyone!
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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LOL, idiot OP replaced EPA with OBAMA just to get a kick out of it. And it worked!

EPA is bought and paid for by the Corporations. The Corporations want you to buy a new less effiecent AC.

They did the same with the toilets.

We just bought a new LG washer and Dryer. The Commie Govt gave me a rebate of $80 for buying a H/E Washer.

These things are AMAZING! Super quiet and uses less water. My whites are whiter. Not sure how it works but damn, it works.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18372701


Your a idiot

Everyone knows EPA = Green = Obama = Scam

Your not fooling anyone
 Quoting: chemaster


"you're"... Dumb fuck. Your grammar is fucking weak. No wonder you're such a loser.

EPA was created way before Obama was President.

I should have known better than to argue with an inbred idiot.
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Home homers! Hshshshshshshshsh

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