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ALERT! Second SUN!! Very clear vid from Aug 13 2012

 
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I saw it last summer, so whatever it is it seems to be safely orbiting. Maybe it's a satellite reflecting/catching the suns rays and that's why it is so bright?
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 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


Starting around 30 seconds, the individual clearly distinguishes that this is NOT a flare of some sort. The video that you've made is a lens flare moving back and forth. Again, this guy breaks it down starting around 30seconds that this is NOT a lense flare or any other flare of that sort.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Please watch the video again. Also thanks for your input.
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 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


Come on now, that looks nothing at all like the other video. You're saying, see there is no second sun in my video, therefore the others are fake. I might need a little more than that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8640456


Some people live their whole lives being wrong! Amazing!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


Sorry buddy but thats not even close. The other vid the second sun doesn't bounce around when he moves/walks. How do you explain that?
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 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


So, if I make a fake video of UFO's, does that mean all UFO videos are fake?

If I make a fake ghost video, does that mean all ghost videos are fake?

If I make a fake bigfoot video, does that mean all bigfoot videos are fake?

If I make a fake...........


Please use logic, your video proves or disproves nothing.




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 Quoting: get_over_it


I've made a lot of fake UFO videos. I don't post them up, they are just for class in animation and the film company I work for.
However I could fool you and the rest if I did.

I just don't.
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 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


not debunked at all keep trying though.
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Funny how it disappears at 1.37....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14317225

Yes, I see that too. Anyone feeling convinced on this, kindly take the frame finder at the bottom of the video to 1:37 and slide one more frame. Poof, it's gone.

Please do it and get over this one - the second sun is not really there.
 Quoting: StinkerBell


It's still there when I try that.
What are you seeing?
It's in every frame around 1:37
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You would cry if you heard how many people I talked to about it here in NJ that replied, "Well I never look up!" Seriously, they never look up
 Quoting: Black Knight


Go visit one of these events and ask how many of them look up:
[link to www.uacnj.org]
Then ask about any given object you see in the sky is and you'll find out what it really is.
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I think it would be a hell of a fight between Sinixsters and jokers avatars!
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Lmao...how are ya shade?
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Does this need pinned? Can anyone explain this? or is it too early for GLP'rs : P
 Quoting: ghost_Safari 10051080

The explanation is simple however no one wants to hear or face the facts.
 Quoting: siniXster


If you say you see it siniXster, then I belive it, I know you can be trusted. I had been watching a planet/dwarf/whatever with a number of moons for over a year now that clear the treeline to my E/SE for over a year now. The moons made a cross in the sky and my wife and neighbor watched it with me many times. This arrangement appears in a completely different area of the shy than Jupiter which we also observe while it is visible.

You would cry if you heard how many people I talked to about it here in NJ that replied, "Well I never look up!" Seriously, they never look up I guess it is hard to elevate your neck in an upward direction when your head is lodged firmly up your ass.

They are signs and most do not see. There is a reason: Many will be called, but few will be chosen! I would say, use your time wisely, but I already know you will. Peace.
 Quoting: Black Knight


Good reply!
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Funny thing about Youtube, when I first saw the video this morning it had 848 views, and yet this thread has close to 5000 views - you would figure at least 10% would view the video - why aren't the view numbers moving up?


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Interesting. It has is it's own reddish lensflare so it's definitely not flare of the sun. coffee4
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Definetly not a flare...

Look at this guy, he is covering the sun with his hand...
But the object is still there!


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He never covers up the sun, only partially blocks it.
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Check it out around the 2:30 mark, if you can, pause it directly at 2:35. As he pans the camera away, the mystery celestial body disappears.

Still interesting though, the other vids that are out there.
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The explanation is simple however no one wants to hear or face the facts.
 Quoting: siniXster


Which explanation? Jupiter? Venus? Nibiru? Dimensional shift?

(Btw im not trying to be a smart ass just would like to know your opinion) :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14779720

IMO it is an inbound heavy mass object.
 Quoting: siniXster

Wrong.
Thread: Nibiru Analysis *Jupiter analysis on page 20*
No name but called by many, NASA is calling it Tyche and they have it plotted,
 Quoting: sinixster

Tyche is a hypothetical planet theorized by Matese. According to the Tyche hypothesis it's nowhere near here, it's at Oort cloud distances. If you have a file from nasa that has the orbital elements for Tyche, let's see it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Downloaded it to Stellarium from JPL, it's on my laptop at home, probably don't have the download file anymore but I'll take a screenshot or make a short vid if I have time tonight and drop it in.

If it were hypothetical why and how would they have the orbital elements?
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"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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Check it out around the 2:30 mark, if you can, pause it directly at 2:35. As he pans the camera away, the mystery celestial body disappears.

Still interesting though, the other vids that are out there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18151579


video fixed
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 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


How fucking stupid are you.lens flare moving everywhere. Other guys object is stationary even when he moves. fucking moran
the real reason most people on this planet are the most ignorant gullible people that have ever lived is a little thing called the

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television

when you watch it, you put the I(you) in television and you get tel(i)evision

tell lie vision
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You would cry if you heard how many people I talked to about it here in NJ that replied, "Well I never look up!" Seriously, they never look up
 Quoting: Black Knight


Go visit one of these events and ask how many of them look up:
[link to www.uacnj.org]
Then ask about any given object you see in the sky is and you'll find out what it really is.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I know AM, I have always respected your views and still do, but frankly, it doesn't matter what scientists, or astrologists or physicists say because any number of them can be found to say any number of conflicting things at any given time. What matters is perception of the masses. Yes perception, not truth, truth DOES NOT EXIST! It is perception of the masses that brings down dynasties or upholds them. Never trust science it is ALWAYS for sale to the highest bidder!
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[link to www.gps.caltech.edu]

[link to www.gemini.edu]

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


How fucking stupid are you.lens flare moving everywhere. Other guys object is stationary even when he moves. fucking moran
 Quoting: Daersoulkeeper



Except, in this video made by the same person:

[link to www.youtube.com]

The "object" does move around

and in fact disappears at one minute, thirty-sevin seconds into the film. Same object. Only it appears he got better at filming it to fool stupid people.
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Which explanation? Jupiter? Venus? Nibiru? Dimensional shift?

(Btw im not trying to be a smart ass just would like to know your opinion) :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14779720

IMO it is an inbound heavy mass object.
 Quoting: siniXster

Wrong.
Thread: Nibiru Analysis *Jupiter analysis on page 20*
No name but called by many, NASA is calling it Tyche and they have it plotted,
 Quoting: sinixster

Tyche is a hypothetical planet theorized by Matese. According to the Tyche hypothesis it's nowhere near here, it's at Oort cloud distances. If you have a file from nasa that has the orbital elements for Tyche, let's see it.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Downloaded it to Stellarium from JPL,
 Quoting: siniXster

Then you must have the orbital elements. Post them. I don't want to see a video, I want the orbital elements. Post or BS.
If it were hypothetical why and how would they have the orbital elements?
 Quoting: sinixster

That depends. Perhaps you were stupid enough to mistake asteroid 258 Tyche for Matese and Whitmire's hypothetical planet Tyche.
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Again, I don't want to see a video of stellarium, that's worthless and meaningless, I want to see the actual orbital elements you claim to have downloaded from JPL and put into stellarium.
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Repeat:
[link to www.gps.caltech.edu]

[link to www.gemini.edu]

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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Does this need pinned? Can anyone explain this? or is it too early for GLP'rs : P
 Quoting: ghost_Safari 10051080

The explanation is simple however no one wants to hear or face the facts.
 Quoting: siniXster


If you say you see it siniXster, then I belive it, I know you can be trusted. I had been watching a planet/dwarf/whatever with a number of moons for over a year now that clear the treeline to my E/SE for over a year now. The moons made a cross in the sky and my wife and neighbor watched it with me many times. This arrangement appears in a completely different area of the shy than Jupiter which we also observe while it is visible.

You would cry if you heard how many people I talked to about it here in NJ that replied, "Well I never look up!" Seriously, they never look up I guess it is hard to elevate your neck in an upward direction when your head is lodged firmly up your ass.

They are signs and most do not see. There is a reason: Many will be called, but few will be chosen! I would say, use your time wisely, but I already know you will. Peace.
 Quoting: Black Knight

Thank you for the back up Brother and thank you for the trust, my son was the first to see it, woke me at 4am on a work day last week so it better have been good, lol.

As far as spending my time goes, we've taken a step back from media and have been prepping and just being together everyday. Preps are just about done save for a few odds and ends, can never spend too much time with friends and family tho. Either way, spiritually and physically, I and my family are ready to face what is happening, whether it be this, the methane, corexit, pandemic or anything else that may get thrown at us in the next few months.

Much love and peace to you my friend.
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"Given enough time, any man may master the physical. With enough knowledge, any man may become wise. It is the true warrior who can master both....and surpass the result." - Tien T'ai

"All my life, my heart has yearned for a thing I cannot name." - Andre Breton

"Sometimes you just have to pee in the sink" - Charles Bukowski

Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain - Exerpt Psalm 127:1

Pain and heartbreak are but illusions that we allow our mind to create out of fear, live in love and from your heart and you'll realize that all is as it should be. The lessons we learn from loss are meant to be taken with wisdom and happiness not sadness and remorse. New strength, new love, new life, new wisdom and lessons that propel us forward on our journey back to unity, universal consciousness and true unconditional love. Wow, what an incredibly joyous ride when we see it for what it truly is!- Sin
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Same guy.. Aug 12

[link to www.youtube.com]

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2.33-2.35 ....Pfff
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its the space station, they just released a weather balloon and swamp gas...
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 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


How fucking stupid are you.lens flare moving everywhere. Other guys object is stationary even when he moves. fucking moran
 Quoting: Daersoulkeeper



Except, in this video made by the same person:

[link to www.youtube.com]

The "object" does move around

and in fact disappears at one minute, thirty-sevin seconds into the film. Same object. Only it appears he got better at filming it to fool stupid people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7321230


is it moving around at the same pace of the video you quoted above. Are they truly moving around in the same type of way? I don't see it if so, I do agree that the object does disappear at 1:37 and 2:35'ish ... this is obviously because he's moving the camera away to film something else.
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You would cry if you heard how many people I talked to about it here in NJ that replied, "Well I never look up!" Seriously, they never look up
 Quoting: Black Knight


Go visit one of these events and ask how many of them look up:
[link to www.uacnj.org]
Then ask about any given object you see in the sky is and you'll find out what it really is.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I know AM, I have always respected your views and still do, but frankly, it doesn't matter what scientists, or astrologists or physicists say because any number of them can be found to say any number of conflicting things at any given time.
 Quoting: Black Knight

They're amateur astronomers not astrologists. Ask them how many have conflicting ideas about whatever you're pointing out to them in the sky.
What matters is perception of the masses.
 Quoting: BK

No, it doesn't at all.
Yes perception, not truth, truth DOES NOT EXIST!
 Quoting: BK

Keep telling yourself that and try to walk through a wall.
Never trust science it is ALWAYS for sale to the highest bidder!
 Quoting: BK

Oh brother. Amateur astronomers are not for sale.
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Quite few vid with that. I can see a flare. But I also see something that I have no clue about.
I really start to wonder what is up
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Simply an aberration.
Probably a cheap lens with an aspherical error by design.

It is impossible that only this guy can see/film such a huge object.

I'd really appreciate a nice master doom but this is FAKE.
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 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****


How fucking stupid are you.lens flare moving everywhere. Other guys object is stationary even when he moves. fucking moran
 Quoting: Daersoulkeeper



Except, in this video made by the same person:

[link to www.youtube.com]

The "object" does move around

and in fact disappears at one minute, thirty-sevin seconds into the film. Same object. Only it appears he got better at filming it to fool stupid people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7321230


is it moving around at the same pace of the video you quoted above. Are they truly moving around in the same type of way? I don't see it if so, I do agree that the object does disappear at 1:37 and 2:35'ish ... this is obviously because he's moving the camera away to film something else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18151579


No, it's not moving in the same manner as the smaller flare. I would gather that this is because the curved or beveled edge of the lens refracts the light it different ways.

But the object disappears before it is off the frame, as soon as a the sun is of the frame, the object vanishes.

Also, the videos have been on the web for YEARS now. If an object of sizable mass was headed our way, the "object" would naturally grow in size during it's documentation.

But it doesn't.

And, one question people are unable to answer...

why the HELL can't we see it?

We cant see it because it's not there.
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Its funny how the debunkers say this is a lense flare,if you look at the object it has its own lense flare that red glow that moves round it at the beginning,no one can deny that there isnt an object clearly there,the only question is what is it.

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