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NSA Mind Control Goes Straight Through Military Grade Faraday Cages Designed To Stop Eavesdropping

 
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Drowning out the extremely low frequency waves with other competing frequencies is a good way to oppose it.

Just play lots of Bach-- the God frequency..
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We couldn't do much to the transmission side of things without doing damage to ourselves, but we might be able to scramble reception somewhat.

That's assuming there are not biological consequences.

It would need research, but in the interim, we need effective shielding solutions.
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So what about a glass cage within an irregular cage, within a regular faraday cage-- to disrupt or divert the reception of the carrier waves?

How about calcite crystals or piezeoelectrics tacked onto the irregular shaped cage within a cage?

How bout a water-bed cage? Just keep trying...

Anyway--- Mr. Computer's AI can read my boring thoughts if he wants to... but I know who I am, and I know his tactics.. so I simply say the lord's prayer and then I begin to pray for all the people I know --in a focused loving way --- which is something Mr. computer's AI could never understand.
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Blind guess are not going to help. We need to understand the specific mechanism that allows this signal to pass through. Once we know this, we can develop a proper counter-measure that disrupts the signal in some fashion. Then we will have secure environments again.
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They need to devise the correct type of Faraday cage for the correct type of signals and frequencies that are being used. You should remember that the U.S. is not the only country in the World that is using that type of technology.
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It appears that it is not just a question of frequencies, but of the impact of a group of frequencies on charge carriers. It would seem that a particular combination of non-ionising radiation, becomes ionising disrupting the cage.

There may also be additional methods as well.

So, there needs to be a new approach to shielding that disrupts the ability of a signal to convey useful information.

We also need it yesterday...
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Think about Infra sound or Ultra sound as carrier frequencies or a component of the type of communication being used and Shield accordingly. It's worth a try.
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They need to devise the correct type of Faraday cage for the correct type of signals and frequencies that are being used. You should remember that the U.S. is not the only country in the World that is using that type of technology.
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It appears that it is not just a question of frequencies, but of the impact of a group of frequencies on charge carriers. It would seem that a particular combination of non-ionising radiation, becomes ionising disrupting the cage.

There may also be additional methods as well.

So, there needs to be a new approach to shielding that disrupts the ability of a signal to convey useful information.

We also need it yesterday...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22002902


Think about Infra sound or Ultra sound as carrier frequencies or a component of the type of communication being used and Shield accordingly. It's worth a try.
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You do understand the different between electromagnetics and sound?
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If this is true, it proves the scalar component in electromagnetic theory. Lt Col Tom Bearden's assessments are true and this very same 'suppressed' technology opens doors to energy production as well.
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If this is true, it proves the scalar component in electromagnetic theory. Lt Col Tom Bearden's assessments are true and this very same 'suppressed' technology opens doors to energy production as well.
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The scaler stuff is nonsense. its just CIA bullshit. The only thing that is suppressed here is common sense.
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If this is true, it proves the scalar component in electromagnetic theory. Lt Col Tom Bearden's assessments are true and this very same 'suppressed' technology opens doors to energy production as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21254431


The scaler stuff is nonsense. its just CIA bullshit. The only thing that is suppressed here is common sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22002902


Ha, ha, the fire extinguisher is quick. Didn't even bother to google Tom Bearden and use your frontal lobes. No, just a quick knee jerk response and call it all rubbish. I love it!
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If this is true, it proves the scalar component in electromagnetic theory. Lt Col Tom Bearden's assessments are true and this very same 'suppressed' technology opens doors to energy production as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21254431


The scaler stuff is nonsense. its just CIA bullshit. The only thing that is suppressed here is common sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22002902


Ha, ha, the fire extinguisher is quick. Didn't even bother to google Tom Bearden and use your frontal lobes. No, just a quick knee jerk response and call it all rubbish. I love it!
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No, I read his work and look at the circuit diagrams. There may be something to changing the properties of a chemical without changing its atomic structure, but the rest is just nonsense.
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They need to devise the correct type of Faraday cage for the correct type of signals and frequencies that are being used. You should remember that the U.S. is not the only country in the World that is using that type of technology.
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It appears that it is not just a question of frequencies, but of the impact of a group of frequencies on charge carriers. It would seem that a particular combination of non-ionising radiation, becomes ionising disrupting the cage.

There may also be additional methods as well.

So, there needs to be a new approach to shielding that disrupts the ability of a signal to convey useful information.

We also need it yesterday...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22002902


Think about Infra sound or Ultra sound as carrier frequencies or a component of the type of communication being used and Shield accordingly. It's worth a try.
 Quoting: Mr. D 4603964


You do understand the different between electromagnetics and sound?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22002902


I think the difference between the two is one of the reasons why a Faraday cage doesn't stop the eavesdropping.

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Nothing and nowhere is safe anymore. When our own thoughts in our own heads are no longer private, our technology has outstripped our wisdom to use it.
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Given human nature, once the capability expands we're in serious trouble.

We need a shielding solution yesterday.
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Yeah, it's called morality, only the people in power threw theirs away a long time ago and actively work to take it away from anybody else that still has it.
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morality - the golden compass

that same integral part of our psyche is the ultimate Faraday Cage we seek in truth

just because something pops into your mind or runs past the screen of the view master, with reference to the river of garbage (thoughts) that run idly through our minds on a full time basis, in no way predicates that we take action or make good upon same in any way, shape, or form.

period

discretion IS in fact and in deed, indeed the better part of valour in this regard... it's all we've got in truth
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It appears that it is not just a question of frequencies, but of the impact of a group of frequencies on charge carriers. It would seem that a particular combination of non-ionising radiation, becomes ionising disrupting the cage.

There may also be additional methods as well.

So, there needs to be a new approach to shielding that disrupts the ability of a signal to convey useful information.

We also need it yesterday...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22002902


Think about Infra sound or Ultra sound as carrier frequencies or a component of the type of communication being used and Shield accordingly. It's worth a try.
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You do understand the different between electromagnetics and sound?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22002902


I think the difference between the two is one of the reasons why a Faraday cage doesn't stop the eavesdropping.

dance
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That does not make sense. The obvious reason would be related to charge distribution, implying that the signal is having effects on the electron.
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Nothing and nowhere is safe anymore. When our own thoughts in our own heads are no longer private, our technology has outstripped our wisdom to use it.
 Quoting: Resister


Given human nature, once the capability expands we're in serious trouble.

We need a shielding solution yesterday.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21956117


Yeah, it's called morality, only the people in power threw theirs away a long time ago and actively work to take it away from anybody else that still has it.
 Quoting: Resister


THIS ^^^

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Just maybe it's not a technology of sorts and more a supernatural power?
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Just maybe it's not a technology of sorts and more a supernatural power?
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That was how radio was perceived in Victorian times.

So much for the US education system...
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Drowning out the extremely low frequency waves with other competing frequencies is a good way to oppose it.

Just play lots of Bach-- the God frequency..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2924495


We couldn't do much to the transmission side of things without doing damage to ourselves, but we might be able to scramble reception somewhat.

That's assuming there are not biological consequences.

It would need research, but in the interim, we need effective shielding solutions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22002902


So what about a glass cage within an irregular cage, within a regular faraday cage-- to disrupt or divert the reception of the carrier waves?

How about calcite crystals or piezeoelectrics tacked onto the irregular shaped cage within a cage?

How bout a water-bed cage? Just keep trying...

Anyway--- Mr. Computer's AI can read my boring thoughts if he wants to... but I know who I am, and I know his tactics.. so I simply say the lord's prayer and then I begin to pray for all the people I know --in a focused loving way --- which is something Mr. computer's AI could never understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2924495


Blind guesses are not going to help. We need to understand the specific mechanism that allows this signal to pass through. Once we know this, we can develop a proper counter-measure that disrupts the signal in some fashion. Then we will have secure environments again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22002902

If you don't understand the "mechanism"- or understand it poorly-- then all you have right now are blind guesses based on well informed scientific hunches.

My advice is to immediately begin testing "cages" based on different materials/shapes which are loosely based on your hunches about the mechanism. You should also bring in different types of psychics and sensitives to guide your efforts.
Simple observation through trials is an underestimated part of scientific discovery, yet it led to such mind blowing events as the discovery of penicillin.

The solution for a new "cage" might very well be simple and in plain sight..
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We couldn't do much to the transmission side of things without doing damage to ourselves, but we might be able to scramble reception somewhat.

That's assuming there are not biological consequences.

It would need research, but in the interim, we need effective shielding solutions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22002902


So what about a glass cage within an irregular cage, within a regular faraday cage-- to disrupt or divert the reception of the carrier waves?

How about calcite crystals or piezeoelectrics tacked onto the irregular shaped cage within a cage?

How bout a water-bed cage? Just keep trying...

Anyway--- Mr. Computer's AI can read my boring thoughts if he wants to... but I know who I am, and I know his tactics.. so I simply say the lord's prayer and then I begin to pray for all the people I know --in a focused loving way --- which is something Mr. computer's AI could never understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2924495


Blind guesses are not going to help. We need to understand the specific mechanism that allows this signal to pass through. Once we know this, we can develop a proper counter-measure that disrupts the signal in some fashion. Then we will have secure environments again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22002902

If you don't understand the "mechanism"- or understand it poorly-- then all you have right now are blind guesses based on well informed scientific hunches.

My advice is to immediately begin testing "cages" based on different materials/shapes which are loosely based on your hunches about the mechanism. You should also bring in different types of psychics and sensitives to guide your efforts.
Simple observation through trials is an underestimated part of scientific discovery, yet it led to such mind blowing events as the discovery of penicillin.

The solution for a new "cage" might very well be simple and in plain sight..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2924495


Psychics and sensitives???

I think I will stick to a network analyzer and scientists.

What is wrong with US education???
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As the "British" host of this thread, your manners certainly leave something to be desired.

If you're such a credible scientist yourself with such a high level of "public school" credentials, then why are you spending time on a misinformation forum peopled by poorly educated American cretins that you despise?

The above does not say very much for your judgment and this is why you are probably not what you claim to be.

If your "network analyzer" and army of scientists is so successful, then why haven't you found a solution to the problem you are whining about?

All great scientific discoveries are in part based on "intuition" and intuition is in the realm of "sensitives."

The solution to your "problem" is most likely as simple as a modified electric blanket draped around the cage, or a simple ozone generator.
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As the "British" host of this thread, your manners certainly leave something to be desired.

If you're such a credible scientist yourself with such a high level of "public school" credentials, then why are you spending time on a misinformation forum peopled by poorly educated American cretins that you despise?

The above does not say very much for your judgment and this is why you are probably not what you claim to be.

If your "network analyzer" and army of scientists is so successful, then why haven't you found a solution to the problem you are whining about?

All great scientific discoveries are in part based on "intuition" and intuition is in the realm of "sensitives."

The solution to your "problem" is most likely as simple as a modified electric blanket draped around the cage, or a simple ozone generator.
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Modified electric blanket??? What would infrared do?

Ozone generator, what would trioxygen do other than poison you?

Why not use a rubber duck inserted into a birthday cake?

Leave the science to those with an education...
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