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There’s something deeply unsettling about living in a country where millions of people go frothing batshit angry at the suggestion that maybe health care coverage should be extended to the tens of millions of Americans who don’t have it; or when they froth at the mouth in ecstasy at the thought of privatizing and slashing bedrock social programs like Social Security or Medicare. It might not be as hard to stomach if other Western countries also had a large, vocal chunk of their population who thought like this, but the US is seemingly the only place where right-wing elites can openly share their distaste for the working poor. Where do they find their philosophical justification for this kind of attitude?

It turns out, you can trace much of this thinking back to Ayn Rand, a popular cult-philosopher who plays Charlie to the American right-wing’s Manson Family. Read on and you’ll see why.

Read more at [link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
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Re: Paul Ryan’s Guru Ayn Rand Worshipped a Serial Killer Who Kidnapped and Dismembered Little Girls
Why do you libtards find it so necessary to lie? Ryan read Rand as did countless others. So frickin'what. Ayn Rand is no more his guru than I am. Your guy obama hung around a white hating black pastor, a convicted terrorist and his father was a Mau Mau radical.

There’s something deeply unsettling about living in a country where millions of people go frothing batshit angry at the suggestion that maybe health care coverage should be extended to the tens of millions of Americans who don’t have it; or when they froth at the mouth in ecstasy at the thought of privatizing and slashing bedrock social programs like Social Security or Medicare. It might not be as hard to stomach if other Western countries also had a large, vocal chunk of their population who thought like this, but the US is seemingly the only place where right-wing elites can openly share their distaste for the working poor. Where do they find their philosophical justification for this kind of attitude?

It turns out, you can trace much of this thinking back to Ayn Rand, a popular cult-philosopher who plays Charlie to the American right-wing’s Manson Family. Read on and you’ll see why.

Read more at [link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
[link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
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Re: Paul Ryan’s Guru Ayn Rand Worshipped a Serial Killer Who Kidnapped and Dismembered Little Girls
I don't think I said Obama was a better choice. Your assessment of Obama is correct.

All I'm saying is we are being run by a bunch of sociopaths - and you think that's OK?

Quit following mad men libtards, consevicunts, whatever
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I don't think I said Obama was a better choice. Your assessment of Obama is correct.

All I'm saying is we are being run by a bunch of sociopaths - and you think that's OK?

Quit following mad men libtards, consevicunts, whatever
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Good job not being baited with the divide and conquer maneuver.
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Re: Paul Ryan’s Guru Ayn Rand Worshipped a Serial Killer Who Kidnapped and Dismembered Little Girls
I was reading about the guy Romney said he wants as his VP Paul Ryan on wikipedia when I got to the 'Philosphy' part of his page...
Apparently he is a flip-flopper just like Romney and says/does what he needs to fit public opinion and get higher up in the political dick sucking race.

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At a D.C. gathering celebrating what would have been Ayn Rand's 100th birthday,
Ryan credited Rand as inspiring him to get involved in public service, stating that
"The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand,"[130]

In a 2005 speech at the Atlas Society, he said he grew up reading Rand, and that her books taught him about his value system and beliefs.[131][132]
Ryan tried to get all of the congressional interns in his office to read Rand's writing.
He also gave copies of her novel Atlas Shrugged to his staff as Christmas presents, he told the Weekly Standard in 2003.[133][134]

In 2009, Ryan said "What’s unique about what’s happening today in government, in the world, in America, is that it’s as if we’re living in an Ayn Rand novel right now.
I think Ayn Rand did the best job of anybody to build a moral case of capitalism, and that morality of capitalism is under assault.”[135]

In April 2012, responding to criticism from Catholic leaders over his budget and Medicare proposals, Ryan rejected Rand's philosophy as an atheistic one, as it "reduces human interactions down to mere contracts".[136]He also called the reports of his adherence to Rand's views to be an "urban legend" and stated that he was deeply influenced by his Roman Catholic faith and by Thomas Aquinas. [137]


Funny thing is, the reason I was researching him was because I had a very bad feeling about him for some reason... looks like just the beginning of my intuition being clarified.

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Man, yet another liberal lie. Doesn't it get old to contribute nothing and just focus on lies?
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Man, yet another liberal lie. Doesn't it get old to contribute nothing and just focus on lies?
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Why do you libtards find it so necessary to lie? Ryan read Rand as did countless others. So frickin'what. Ayn Rand is no more his guru than I am.

There’s something deeply unsettling about living in a country where millions of people go frothing batshit angry at the suggestion that maybe health care coverage should be extended to the tens of millions of Americans who don’t have it; or when they froth at the mouth in ecstasy at the thought of privatizing and slashing bedrock social programs like Social Security or Medicare. It might not be as hard to stomach if other Western countries also had a large, vocal chunk of their population who thought like this, but the US is seemingly the only place where right-wing elites can openly share their distaste for the working poor. Where do they find their philosophical justification for this kind of attitude?

It turns out, you can trace much of this thinking back to Ayn Rand, a popular cult-philosopher who plays Charlie to the American right-wing’s Manson Family. Read on and you’ll see why.

Read more at [link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
[link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
 Quoting: Sir Sidney Fudd

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Asshole, Paul Ryan doesn't know you exist.

But he's said that Ayn Rand inspired him to go into politics so he could screw the poor as hard as possible, he's talked enthusiastically about the "morality" of her sociopathic philosophy, and he requires all of his congressional staff to read her shitty books and watch Ayn Rand videos.

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well, CHUCK PAUL RYAN IN JAIL THEN!!!
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Paul Ryan is an Ayn Rand fan? Cool!
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There’s something deeply unsettling about living in a country where millions of people go frothing batshit angry at the suggestion that maybe health care coverage should be extended to the tens of millions of Americans who don’t have it; or when they froth at the mouth in ecstasy at the thought of privatizing and slashing bedrock social programs like Social Security or Medicare. It might not be as hard to stomach if other Western countries also had a large, vocal chunk of their population who thought like this, but the US is seemingly the only place where right-wing elites can openly share their distaste for the working poor. Where do they find their philosophical justification for this kind of attitude?

It turns out, you can trace much of this thinking back to Ayn Rand, a popular cult-philosopher who plays Charlie to the American right-wing’s Manson Family. Read on and you’ll see why.

Read more at [link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
[link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
 Quoting: Sir Sidney Fudd


Oh cry me a river. That is nothing but an asinine, straw man argument. It's not that people are angry about health care coverage. They're angry because people like you don't seem to get that government-paid healthcare brings government control and meddling, not to mention huge new tax burdens. What is it with you people? Government health care is causing socialist Europe to implode due to its expense, and people can't even GET decent care in many of these countries anyway. Yet you can't seem to let go of a failed philosophy. They say insanity is doing the same things again and again and expecting a different result...
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You poor non-thinker. Ayn Rand took medicaid when she was dying of cancer. Funny how realities change when it's your life.

There’s something deeply unsettling about living in a country where millions of people go frothing batshit angry at the suggestion that maybe health care coverage should be extended to the tens of millions of Americans who don’t have it; or when they froth at the mouth in ecstasy at the thought of privatizing and slashing bedrock social programs like Social Security or Medicare. It might not be as hard to stomach if other Western countries also had a large, vocal chunk of their population who thought like this, but the US is seemingly the only place where right-wing elites can openly share their distaste for the working poor. Where do they find their philosophical justification for this kind of attitude?

It turns out, you can trace much of this thinking back to Ayn Rand, a popular cult-philosopher who plays Charlie to the American right-wing’s Manson Family. Read on and you’ll see why.

Read more at [link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
[link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
 Quoting: Sir Sidney Fudd


Oh cry me a river. That is nothing but an asinine, straw man argument. It's not that people are angry about health care coverage. They're angry because people like you don't seem to get that government-paid healthcare brings government control and meddling, not to mention huge new tax burdens. What is it with you people? Government health care is causing socialist Europe to implode due to its expense, and people can't even GET decent care in many of these countries anyway. Yet you can't seem to let go of a failed philosophy. They say insanity is doing the same things again and again and expecting a different result...
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Barrak Obama learned to be a pedophile under his Marxist teacher the same one who molested him. At least this is the story that Harry Reid heard on his magic phone.
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Re: Paul Ryan’s Guru Ayn Rand Worshipped a Serial Killer Who Kidnapped and Dismembered Little Girls
So let me see if I get this right ANYONE that has read Ayn Rand somehow is tainted by the actions of a 1920's serial killer?

You do know that her books are on the required reading lists of many schools and colleges, don't you?

That like saying if you have read Mein Kampf you are a Nazi...

Or if you have read the Communist manifesto you are a communist....

Or if you listened to Helter Skelter you are a member of the Manson family.....

What next libertards?

Death for exposure to ideas foreign from your own....
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So let me see if I get this right ANYONE that has read Ayn Rand somehow is tainted by the actions of a 1920's serial killer?

You do know that her books are on the required reading lists of many schools and colleges, don't you?

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So let me see if I get this right ANYONE that has read Ayn Rand somehow is tainted by the actions of a 1920's serial killer?

You do know that her books are on the required reading lists of many schools and colleges, don't you?

That like saying if you have read Mein Kampf you are a Nazi...

Or if you have read the Communist manifesto you are a communist....

Or if you listened to Helter Skelter you are a member of the Manson family.....

What next libertards?

Death for exposure to ideas foreign from your own....
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There's something seriously wrong with anybody who's impressed with that sociopathic garbage, yes.

And if you admire the protagonist that Ayn Rand modeled after a fucking serial killer then there's a good chance you're a psychopath yourself.
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OP is a moron, self deluded idiot. Why? Obama worships Stalin, Mao, & Fidel Castro. Those guys murdered over a hundred million people.

So fuck off ass hat!
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Turns out Ryan thought Rand's economic viewpoint was a valid one, or at least what was put forth in her book "Atlas Shrugged" but no one with a brain thinks Ryan would agree with Rand's other opinions such as her atheism or what ever.

No one with a brain but then libtards daily reveal their lack of a brain.
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OP is a moron, self deluded idiot. Why? Obama worships Stalin, Mao, & Fidel Castro. Those guys murdered over a hundred million people.

So fuck off ass hat!
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good call.

funny how the libs tell you that if THEY think any alternative to oblabla is even one foible away from godlike perfection IN THEIR VIEW, we all must stick with our dear toxic revenger
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There’s something deeply unsettling about living in a country where millions of people go frothing batshit angry at the suggestion that maybe health care coverage should be extended to the tens of millions of Americans who don’t have it; or when they froth at the mouth in ecstasy at the thought of privatizing and slashing bedrock social programs like Social Security or Medicare. It might not be as hard to stomach if other Western countries also had a large, vocal chunk of their population who thought like this, but the US is seemingly the only place where right-wing elites can openly share their distaste for the working poor. Where do they find their philosophical justification for this kind of attitude?

It turns out, you can trace much of this thinking back to Ayn Rand, a popular cult-philosopher who plays Charlie to the American right-wing’s Manson Family. Read on and you’ll see why.

Read more at [link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
[link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
 Quoting: Sir Sidney Fudd


I spent a few minutes reading the linked article, and can honestly say it was probably the biggest piece of fearmongering, sensationalistic trash I've seen in quite awhile. I thought the bit about Rand's fascination with Hickman was interesting, but calling her fans "followers", members of a "sadistic cult", and the "Rand Family" (after the Manson Family)? Are you kidding?

I've read Atlas Shrugged, as well as a little about Ayn Rand. I can assure you, she never once called for anyone to be murdered and dismembered. In a nutshell, she believed that no one should be compelled by force to give what they've worked for to someone who didn't. I've seen her interviewed, during which she said she happily provided for her loved ones because it was her choice and it made her feel good.

I am one who thinks the way Rand predicted the downfall of our society in Atlas Shrugged is uncanny, and I do appreciate her ideas.

I commend you for your ability to think freely and not be drawn in by the left/right paradigm.
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There’s something deeply unsettling about living in a country where millions of people go frothing batshit angry at the suggestion that maybe health care coverage should be extended to the tens of millions of Americans who don’t have it; or when they froth at the mouth in ecstasy at the thought of privatizing and slashing bedrock social programs like Social Security or Medicare.
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And 0bama ate dogs. Dog eating bastard.

And check out the US Constitution. Article 1, Section 8, outlines what the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT can do - and cannot do.

That may clear up your nanny issues.
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There’s something deeply unsettling about living in a country where millions of people go frothing batshit angry at the suggestion that maybe health care coverage should be extended to the tens of millions of Americans who don’t have it; or when they froth at the mouth in ecstasy at the thought of privatizing and slashing bedrock social programs like Social Security or Medicare. It might not be as hard to stomach if other Western countries also had a large, vocal chunk of their population who thought like this, but the US is seemingly the only place where right-wing elites can openly share their distaste for the working poor. Where do they find their philosophical justification for this kind of attitude?

It turns out, you can trace much of this thinking back to Ayn Rand, a popular cult-philosopher who plays Charlie to the American right-wing’s Manson Family. Read on and you’ll see why.

Read more at [link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
[link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
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OP, you're full of shit.Skillet slap
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There’s something deeply unsettling about living in a country where millions of people go frothing batshit angry at the suggestion that maybe health care coverage should be extended to the tens of millions of Americans who don’t have it; or when they froth at the mouth in ecstasy at the thought of privatizing and slashing bedrock social programs like Social Security or Medicare. It might not be as hard to stomach if other Western countries also had a large, vocal chunk of their population who thought like this, but the US is seemingly the only place where right-wing elites can openly share their distaste for the working poor. Where do they find their philosophical justification for this kind of attitude?

It turns out, you can trace much of this thinking back to Ayn Rand, a popular cult-philosopher who plays Charlie to the American right-wing’s Manson Family. Read on and you’ll see why.

Read more at [link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
[link to www.nakedcapitalism.com]
 Quoting: Sir Sidney Fudd


I spent a few minutes reading the linked article, and can honestly say it was probably the biggest piece of fearmongering, sensationalistic trash I've seen in quite awhile. I thought the bit about Rand's fascination with Hickman was interesting, but calling her fans "followers", members of a "sadistic cult", and the "Rand Family" (after the Manson Family)? Are you kidding?

I've read Atlas Shrugged, as well as a little about Ayn Rand. I can assure you, she never once called for anyone to be murdered and dismembered. In a nutshell, she believed that no one should be compelled by force to give what they've worked for to someone who didn't. I've seen her interviewed, during which she said she happily provided for her loved ones because it was her choice and it made her feel good.

I am one who thinks the way Rand predicted the downfall of our society in Atlas Shrugged is uncanny, and I do appreciate her ideas.

I commend you for your ability to think freely and not be drawn in by the left/right paradigm.
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why should we be forced to give money to a foreign state like israhell which has socialized medicine? Why do I owe them anything? I bet Ryan would be happy to give them trillions.
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0bamatards find it easier to run against Ayn Rand than 0bama's record of utter disaster (one after another).

It sure beats talking about where all those trillions went, gas prices, unemploment, a quadrupling of the deficit and all those broken promises.

Yeah, that's right, let's discuss Rand instead. Yeah....

LOL Idiot!
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[link to www.google.com]

Furthermore, while the Ayn Rand information is being used out of context, it's a little difficult to deny the Marxist roots of the Obama Campaign and of their admiration of Che Guevara, a butcher of millions.
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Election smear tactics...here on GLP..

Tisk..Tisk..Obama ..
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I don't think I said Obama was a better choice. Your assessment of Obama is correct.

All I'm saying is we are being run by a bunch of sociopaths - and you think that's OK?

Quit following mad men libtards, consevicunts, whatever
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What kind of book people read, tells alot about the person reading it!



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Election smear tactics...here on GLP..

Tisk..Tisk..Obama ..
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You missed, the OP point, psycopaths, runall our countries.....



That was the point, no sides!!!!!!



Get the picture??



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We ought to be reassured by Ryan's reading of this woman.

Any government official in the Ayn Rand camp is a good thing. Anything to keep these leeches squarely in the position of less government is a good thing. Anything to keep them reminded of their limited role. Anything to remind them to back the fuck off.

Ayn would have socked Paul Ryan for his TARP votes and other big-government bailouts.

It's possible Ryan evolved his view. I'm sure people pointed out she was an atheist. Just because you adhere to someone's philosophy doesn't mean you agree with every cent of it.

At the core, Ayn's right: NO to generosity, giving or social diligence by force.

Libs love to talk about the "poor" -- how many of them volunteer or do anything for their community? They want the government to do it. It takes the responsibility off the backs of the people.
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