What if Iran Destroys Israel? What Then?

Has anyone ever really thought about this?

Let's say a war ensues and Iran and maybe others totally wipes Israel off the face of the Earth; Geo politically, what will the world be like after?

This is not an I Hate Israel Bait Thread. Please think critically and keep it out of the gutter.

World peace?

Has anyone ever really thought about this?

Let's say a war ensues and Iran and maybe others totally wipes Israel off the face of the Earth; Geo politically, what will the world be like after?

This is not an I Hate Israel Bait Thread. Please think critically and keep it out of the gutter.

My Ex Wife lives there and is a Citizen thereof.

THEN WE PARTY LIKE IT'S 1999

THEN WE PARTY LIKE IT'S 1999

Samson Option

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search For the 1991 book, see The Samson Option: Israel's Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy.

The Samson Option is a term used by various commentators to describe Israel’s alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence, and possibly against other targets as well. [1] The phrase also has been used more generally to describe Israel's nuclear program.[2]

Commentators also have employed the term in reference to situations where non-nuclear, non-Israeli actors, such as Saddam Hussein,[3] Yassir Arafat[4] and Hezbollah[5] have threatened conventional weapons retaliation. Contents

1 Nuclear ambiguity 2 Deterrence doctrine 3 Retaliation strategy 4 See also 5 References 6 External links

Nuclear ambiguity

Israel refuses to admit it has nuclear weapons or to describe how it would use them, an official policy of nuclear ambiguity, also known as "nuclear opacity." This has made it difficult for anyone outside the Israeli government to definitively describe its true nuclear policy, while still allowing Israel to influence the perceptions, strategies and actions of other governments.[6]u

In 2006, in his book The Culture of War, Martin van Creveld, a professor of military history at Israel’s Hebrew University, wrote that since former United States Secretary of Defense Robert Gates admitted that Israel had nuclear weapons, any talk of Israel's nuclear weapons in Israel can lead to "arrest, trial, and imprisonment." Thus Israeli commentators talk about "doomsday weapons" and the "Samson Option."[7]

Nevertheless, as early as 1976, the CIA believed that Israel possessed 10 to 20 nuclear weapons.[8] By 2002 it was estimated that the number had increased to between 75 and 200 thermonuclear weapons, each in the multiple-megaton range.[9] Kenneth S. Brower has estimated as many as 400 nuclear weapons.[10] These can be launched from land, sea and air.[11] This gives Israel a second strike option even if much of the country is destroyed.[12] Deterrence doctrine

Although nuclear weapons were viewed as the ultimate guarantor of Israeli security, as early as the 1960s the country avoided building its military around them, instead pursuing absolute conventional superiority so as to forestall a last resort nuclear engagement.[13] The original conception of the Samson Option was only as deterrence. According to United States journalist Seymour Hersh and Israeli historian Avner Cohen, Israeli leaders like David Ben-Gurion, Shimon Peres, Levi Eshkol and Moshe Dayan coined the phrase in the mid-1960s. They named it after the biblical figure Samson, who pushed apart the pillars of a Philistine temple, bringing down the roof and killing himself and thousands of Philistines who had captured him, mutilated him, and gathered to see him further humiliated in chains. They contrasted it with ancient siege of Masada where 936 Jewish Sicarii committed mass suicide rather than be defeated and enslaved by the Romans.[14]

In the 1973 Yom Kippur War, Arab forces were overwhelming Israeli forces and Prime Minister Golda Meir authorized a nuclear alert and ordered 13 atomic bombs be readied for use by missiles and aircraft. The Israeli Ambassador warned President Nixon of “very serious conclusions" if the United States did not airlift supplies. Nixon complied. This is seen as the first threat of the use of the Samson Option.[15]

Seymour Hersh writes that the "surprising victory of Menachem Begin's Likud Party in the May 1977 national elections...brought to power a government that was even more committed than Labor to the Samson Option and the necessity of an Israeli nuclear arsenal."[16]

Louis René Beres, a professor of Political Science at Purdue University, chaired Project Daniel, a group advising Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, argues in that paper and elsewhere that the effective deterrence of the Samson Option would be increased by ending the policy of nuclear ambiguity.[17] In a 2004 article he recommends Israel use the Samson Option threat to “support conventional preemptions” against enemy nuclear and non-nuclear assets because “without such weapons, Israel, having to rely entirely upon non-nuclear forces, might not be able to deter enemy retaliations for the Israeli preemptive strike.”[18] Retaliation strategy

Some have written about the "Samson Option" as a retaliation strategy. In 2002, the Los Angeles Times published an opinion piece by Louisiana State University professor David Perlmutter which has been seen as justifying a Samson Option approach.[19] He wrote:

"Israel has been building nuclear weapons for 30 years. The jewish people understand what passive and powerless acceptance of doom has meant for them in the past, and they have ensured against it. Masada was not an example to follow—it hurt the Romans not a whit, but Samson in Gaza? What would serve the Jew-hating world better in repayment for thousands of years of massacres but a Nuclear Winter. Or invite all those tut-tutting European statesmen and peace activists to join us in the ovens? For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away—unlike the Armenians, Tibetans, World War II European jewish people or Rwandans—have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?"[20]

In 2003, Martin van Creveld thought that the Al-Aqsa Intifada then in progress threatened Israel's existence.[21] Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's "The Gun and the Olive Branch" (2003) as saying:

"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.[22]

Ron Rosenbaum writes in his 2012 book How the End Begins: The Road to a Nuclear World War III that in the "aftermath of a second Holocaust" Israel's surviving Dophin-class nuclear missile submarines would retaliate not only against Israel's attackers, but "bring down the pillars of the world (attack Moscow and European capitals for instance)" as well as the "holy places of Islam." He writes that "abandonment of proportionality is the essence" of the Samson Option.[23]

In 2012, in response to Gunter Grass's poem "Was gesagt werden muss" ("What Must Be Said") which criticized Israel's nuclear weapons program, Israeli poet and Holocaust survivor Itamar Yaoz-Kest published a poem entitled "The Right to Exist: a Poem-Letter to the German Author" which addresses Grass by name. It contains the line: "If you force us yet again to descend from the face of the Earth to the depths of the Earth – let the Earth roll toward the Nothingness." This is seen as referring to the Samson Option which is the strategy floated by Ariel Sharon and others of using Israel's nuclear weapons, possibly damaging the entire world, if Israel faces annihilation.

The World will be a better place.

Peace will finally come, because when the cancer is cut out healing can take place.

Has anyone ever really thought about this?

Let's say a war ensues and Iran and maybe others totally wipes Israel off the face of the Earth; Geo politically, what will the world be like after?

This is not an I Hate Israel Bait Thread. Please think critically and keep it out of the gutter.

It's an impossible proposition: Israel has thousands of neutron bombs with delivery capability; Iran has NONE....I am beginning to believe that Israel is a terrorist nation...constantly ratcheting up the rhetoric and causing fear throughout the globe...the USA should abandon the bastards....

You're going to love the Battle of Armageddon.
Two thirds of Israel will be wiped out,
but that's when Jesus returns.
He descends from Heaven to the Mount of Olives.

Now this is the part you probably wont enjoy.
Jesus destroys Israel's enemies with just a word.

UNTIL IRAN NUKES WHO THEY CALL THE


"GREAT SATAN"

THAT WHAT THEY CALL THE USA


YOU HATERS KEEP ON THINKING STUPID THINGS


ISREAL WILL NOT ALL ALLOW ANOTHER HOLOCAUST

THEY HAVE PLANS

WAYS

AND MEANS


MANY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


YOU CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE

GAS MASK FINAL PICKUP FOR ALL POPULATION IS FOR THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS

Israel=Modern democracy which tolerates diversity.

who fuckin cares. i hope they destroy each other

Please think critically and keep it out of the gutter.

Has anyone ever really thought about this?

Let's say a war ensues and Iran and maybe others totally wipes Israel off the face of the Earth; Geo politically, what will the world be like after?

This is not an I Hate Israel Bait Thread. Please think critically and keep it out of the gutter.