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DHS buying 750 MILLION rounds of 223 ammunition -- WTF? Get ready to rumble, people.

 
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DHS buying 750 MILLION rounds of 223 ammunition -- WTF? Get ready to rumble, people.
This is insane...

The Department of Homeland Security is rushing to finish the acquisition of 750 million rounds of high-power ammunition that has already raised many eyebrows. In one week, the DHS should start expecting an arsenal that will make some armies jealous.

The DHS has updated a solicitation originally posted on the Federal Business Opportunities website earlier this year, now answering questions from prospective contractors about an inquiry the agency published back in April. All responses to the DHS’ request for hundreds of millions of rounds of high-power ammunition must still be sent in by August 20, but now the federal agency designated to thwart terrorism on the home front has answered some questions about what exactly they are looking for in terms of being able to blow stuff up.

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Absolutely NO REASON for this department to even exist, let alone squander the peoples' money.
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Re: DHS buying 750 MILLION rounds of 223 ammunition -- WTF? Get ready to rumble, people.
Just spoke with Congressman Trey Gowdy (SC district 4) in Reguards to DHS purchasing 750 million Rounds of .223 Amunition!


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Here is the purchase order:


[link to www.naturalnews.com]
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Re: DHS buying 750 MILLION rounds of 223 ammunition -- WTF? Get ready to rumble, people.
This amount of ammo works out to be 7.5 million 100-round-barrel-magazines of ammo.

That's enough to shoot every person in NYC 100 times.

WTF does DHS think they need that amount of ammo for?

They're a criminal organization AFAIAC, spawned in the false flag of 911.
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This stuff is for the population.

It is against the Geneva Convention to use hollow point ammunition in a wartime situation.

Last Edited by Sledster on 08/15/2012 12:14 PM
I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already!

Please ignore the German flag, I am an American.

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Texas bullhorn is now reporting, right now on his show -- all those bullets are being secretly shipped to Syria to aid Al you know Q;da. he's says he has proof and will posting it, as it's related to fast and furious and is like iran/ contra.
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Re: DHS buying 750 MILLION rounds of 223 ammunition -- WTF? Get ready to rumble, people.
This amount of ammo works out to be 7.5 million 100-round-barrel-magazines of ammo.

That's enough to shoot every person in NYC 100 times.

WTF does DHS think they need that amount of ammo for?

They're a criminal organization AFAIAC, spawned in the false flag of 911.
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Congressman Gowdy awnsered my question on 750 million rounds of 40 cal pistol ammo they ordered. He said dhs has 154 thousand employees, That includes all ICE, DEA, US marshalls, FBI DHS and others over 100 different agencies, He said they have to qualify and shoot hundreds of rounds every year. He said Normally each office orders its rounds individually but now that they are all under the guise of DHS they make one purchace order for all agencies to save monies! Dont know if it is true or not.

However 750 million rounds of 223 is a whole different story. He is going to get back to me in a week or two!
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This amount of ammo works out to be 7.5 million 100-round-barrel-magazines of ammo.

That's enough to shoot every person in NYC 100 times.

WTF does DHS think they need that amount of ammo for?

They're a criminal organization AFAIAC, spawned in the false flag of 911.
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Congressman Gowdy awnsered my question on 750 million rounds of 40 cal pistol ammo they ordered. He said dhs has 154 thousand employees, That includes all ICE, DEA, US marshalls, FBI DHS and others over 100 different agencies, He said they have to qualify and shoot hundreds of rounds every year. He said Normally each office orders its rounds individually but now that they are all under the guise of DHS they make one purchace order for all agencies to save monies! Dont know if it is true or not.

However 750 million rounds of 223 is a whole different story. He is going to get back to me in a week or two!
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He also said the purchase order is for over the next five years. So break that down to 154 thousand agents over five years. Its not that many.
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.223/5.56 nato, lol, little AR rounds are all they are... Not very accurate after 100yrds
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Ask him to explain why NOAA, the weather agency, is ordering massive rounds of ammunition too...I'd love to here that one.

Are they declaring war on hurricanes? lol
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Ask him to explain why NOAA, the weather agency, is ordering massive rounds of ammunition too...I'd love to here that one.

Are they declaring war on hurricanes? lol
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I WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED WITH INFORMATION AS IT COMES IN FROM CONGRESSMAN GOWDY'S OFFICE I HAVE 7 OTHER SOURCES LOOKING INTO IT AS WELL! ITS UP TO YOU WEATHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE IT!
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Re: DHS buying 750 MILLION rounds of 223 ammunition -- WTF? Get ready to rumble, people.
This amount of ammo works out to be 7.5 million 100-round-barrel-magazines of ammo.

That's enough to shoot every person in NYC 100 times.

WTF does DHS think they need that amount of ammo for?

They're a criminal organization AFAIAC, spawned in the false flag of 911.
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Congressman Gowdy awnsered my question on 750 million rounds of 40 cal pistol ammo they ordered. He said dhs has 154 thousand employees, That includes all ICE, DEA, US marshalls, FBI DHS and others over 100 different agencies, He said they have to qualify and shoot hundreds of rounds every year. He said Normally each office orders its rounds individually but now that they are all under the guise of DHS they make one purchace order for all agencies to save monies! Dont know if it is true or not.

However 750 million rounds of 223 is a whole different story. He is going to get back to me in a week or two!
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He also said the purchase order is for over the next five years. So break that down to 154 thousand agents over five years. Its not that many.
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( 750.000.000 / 154.000 ) / 5 = 974 rounds / employee and year ...
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... or must it be "rounded" to 2 rounds per american citizen?
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ask that politician about the thousands of bullet proof guard shacks DHS bought. on second thought it would be a waste of time.

Our government is clearly gearing up for war against it's citizens. And it only makes sense. They think we're all terrorists. And they treat us like terrorists.
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Re: DHS buying 750 MILLION rounds of 223 ammunition -- WTF? Get ready to rumble, people.
Ask him to explain why NOAA, the weather agency, is ordering massive rounds of ammunition too...I'd love to here that one.

Are they declaring war on hurricanes? lol
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I WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED WITH INFORMATION AS IT COMES IN FROM CONGRESSMAN GOWDY'S OFFICE I HAVE 7 OTHER SOURCES LOOKING INTO IT AS WELL! ITS UP TO YOU WEATHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE IT!
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Looking into it??? It's already been purchased or will be. You think that clown can stop what the government is planning?
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Re: DHS buying 750 MILLION rounds of 223 ammunition -- WTF? Get ready to rumble, people.
Ask him to explain why NOAA, the weather agency, is ordering massive rounds of ammunition too...I'd love to here that one.

Are they declaring war on hurricanes? lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9880440


I WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED WITH INFORMATION AS IT COMES IN FROM CONGRESSMAN GOWDY'S OFFICE I HAVE 7 OTHER SOURCES LOOKING INTO IT AS WELL! ITS UP TO YOU WEATHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE IT!
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Looking into it??? It's already been purchased or will be. You think that clown can stop what the government is planning?
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He can at least answer some questions as to who what why and where/
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Re: DHS buying 750 MILLION rounds of 223 ammunition -- WTF? Get ready to rumble, people.
Perhaps it's to create an ammo shortage so the American people can't get their hands on it.
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Perhaps it's to create an ammo shortage so the American people can't get their hands on it.
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right now there are no shortages went to gun show last week they had plenty? Another one this weekend I may stop by to check it out
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Perhaps it's to create an ammo shortage so the American people can't get their hands on it.
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right now there are no shortages went to gun show last week they had plenty? Another one this weekend I may stop by to check it out
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Maybe so but I think all you gun enthusiast should start hand loading and stockpile supplies. Good for those rainy days.
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Next great biz venture, Ammo reloading factory. I'm gonna make a shit ton of $$$$.
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Next great biz venture, Ammo reloading factory. I'm gonna make a shit ton of $$$$.
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that and growing food!
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Next great biz venture, Ammo reloading factory. I'm gonna make a shit ton of $$$$.
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It is a lucrative business, not including labor, you quadruple your money.
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Re: DHS buying 750 MILLION rounds of 223 ammunition -- WTF? Get ready to rumble, people.
.223/5.56 nato, lol, little AR rounds are all they are... Not very accurate after 100yrds
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First of all most combat operations are under 100 yards. Especially in built up Urban Areas. Secondly, a good marksman can easily hit targets out to 400 - 500 yards with .223. Hell, just google coyote hunting videos. Lots of 300-400 yard shots on moving coyotes.

Marines used to qualify up to 500 yards with .223 (Not just the M-14). Don't know if the same standards apply nowadays.

Anyway, for what its worth.
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I find the timeline of this ammo shortage interesting. Sections 346 and 361 of the NDAA call for halting commercial sales of ammo till the govt agencies are supplied. Homeland security is buying more ammo than the military. With the slaughter in Conn and the main media beating the drum for gun control, I think it goes beyond panic buying by the public. Call me paranoid, but the UN and Obama admin is pushing for the US to sign the small arms treaty this spring. This will require an international registration of all firearms. It also calls for putting micro serial #s on all ammo. This will effectively give the power to control guns to an entity other than the US and thus get around the second amendment if ratified by the Senate. Obama will sign it. All we need is the anti gun people to agree to it. Call your senator and tell him or her that you think that anyone who votes to ratify this treaty, giving our sovereignty to an outside organization, is a traitor to this country. This could eventually lead to gun confiscation.
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.223/5.56 nato, lol, little AR rounds are all they are... Not very accurate after 100yrds
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First of all most combat operations are under 100 yards. Especially in built up Urban Areas. Secondly, a good marksman can easily hit targets out to 400 - 500 yards with .223. Hell, just google coyote hunting videos. Lots of 300-400 yard shots on moving coyotes.

Marines used to qualify up to 500 yards with .223 (Not just the M-14). Don't know if the same standards apply nowadays.

Anyway, for what its worth.
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i agree, i myself a novice shooter can hit a pie plate 5 shot grouping at 200 yards with open sights
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Re: DHS buying 750 MILLION rounds of 223 ammunition -- WTF? Get ready to rumble, people.
Relax, folks. The acquisition of ammo that you might have heard about is being done in anticipiation that domestic terrorists calling themselves 'militia' will take arms against the US government and people.

Do you expect the DHS and other agencies to fight domestic terrorists without ammo? We hope not!

As long as you're not a domestic terrorist, then you have nothing to worry about. This is a necessary step to ensure the safety and security of America and Americans.

Thanks and have a nice day.

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