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UFO'S: Has Anyone Noticed?

 
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Ive noticed a weird occurance eveythime i've seen videos of UFO's
they take off faster than shit, yet, NO SONIC BOOM?
in every case ive seen theres no sonic boom. traveling that fast, it is impossable NOT to break the sound berrier.
we have (in the USA) the worlds fastest jet fighters and other aircraft, and at their high speeds breaks the sound berrier with a sonic boom every time.

makes me wonder really (if UFO's are indeed real) if the craft uses the force of the sonic boom to further project itself faster.

anyone have any thoughts on this?
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Its clearly because they aren't on the same page as us with technology.
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Its clearly because they aren't on the same page as us with technology.
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true, but our atmosphere has guiding laws of its own, that UFO's seem to break.
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way different technology. Theirs is all energy based.
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Ive noticed a weird occurance eveythime i've seen videos of UFO's
they take off faster than shit, yet, NO SONIC BOOM?
in every case ive seen theres no sonic boom. traveling that fast, it is impossable NOT to break the sound berrier.
we have (in the USA) the worlds fastest jet fighters and other aircraft, and at their high speeds breaks the sound berrier with a sonic boom every time.

makes me wonder really (if UFO's are indeed real) if the craft uses the force of the sonic boom to further project itself faster.

anyone have any thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


Its because they are not moving through the 'air'. They are moving in between the air.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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way different technology. Theirs is all energy based.
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a bullet has diffrrent energy than a jet as well, yet they both break the sound berrier.
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way different technology. Theirs is all energy based.
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a bullet has diffrrent energy than a jet as well, yet they both break the sound berrier.
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Exactly. That's why you are missing it. If you weren't missing it, and a UFO was the same as a bullet, or a jet, then they would break the sound barrier, correct?
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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Ive noticed a weird occurance eveythime i've seen videos of UFO's
they take off faster than shit, yet, NO SONIC BOOM?
in every case ive seen theres no sonic boom. traveling that fast, it is impossable NOT to break the sound berrier.
we have (in the USA) the worlds fastest jet fighters and other aircraft, and at their high speeds breaks the sound berrier with a sonic boom every time.

makes me wonder really (if UFO's are indeed real) if the craft uses the force of the sonic boom to further project itself faster.

anyone have any thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


Its because they are not moving through the 'air'. They are moving in between the air.
 Quoting: Stepping through My Shadow


thats an interesting thought!
can you explain more about this?

what would be an interesting thought on that theory is:
why would beings from another planet, adapt there crafts to our atmospher to be able to do that?
and how did the first (of that alisn species) know what our atmosphere would do and not do to their ships, without ever 1st entering it in a "test" period?
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Ive noticed a weird occurance eveythime i've seen videos of UFO's
they take off faster than shit, yet, NO SONIC BOOM?
in every case ive seen theres no sonic boom. traveling that fast, it is impossable NOT to break the sound berrier.
we have (in the USA) the worlds fastest jet fighters and other aircraft, and at their high speeds breaks the sound berrier with a sonic boom every time.

makes me wonder really (if UFO's are indeed real) if the craft uses the force of the sonic boom to further project itself faster.

anyone have any thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


Its because they are not moving through the 'air'. They are moving in between the air.
 Quoting: Stepping through My Shadow


thats an interesting thought!
can you explain more about this?

what would be an interesting thought on that theory is:
why would beings from another planet, adapt there crafts to our atmospher to be able to do that?
and how did the first (of that alisn species) know what our atmosphere would do and not do to their ships, without ever 1st entering it in a "test" period?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


It was a really interesting theory, and it was backed up with some good science theory. Man, I can't remember where I heard/read it.

This is going to be wrong, because I can't remember it exactly, but it will give you the 'idea'. If you are still interested, I'll spend some time trying to find where I found it. It might have be Dr. LaViolette's thoughts.

They don't actually 'move' as we know it. The do small spacial jumps. They create a wormhole directly in front of it, and they go from one tiny wormhole to the next, jumping from one going through the tiny wormhole, and exiting a very short distance away. Short enough to make it appear as if it is moving normally. It is the same way as they would travel very far distances.

Now, wormhole is completely the wrong term, but it lets you visualize the idea.

Dammit, lol. Now I want to look into this again.

They create holes in space/time. But, its not really a hole. It is more of a slipping between reality. It can be pretty accurately explained (in theory of course) using electromagnetism. One of the problems posed was the amount of energy needing to be used is tremendous. But, that was solved by solving the 'free energy' problem.

As you can see, it solves a lot of the 'physics' problems as well. They would always be standing still. No G forces, etc.

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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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Ive noticed a weird occurance eveythime i've seen videos of UFO's
they take off faster than shit, yet, NO SONIC BOOM?
in every case ive seen theres no sonic boom. traveling that fast, it is impossable NOT to break the sound berrier.
we have (in the USA) the worlds fastest jet fighters and other aircraft, and at their high speeds breaks the sound berrier with a sonic boom every time.

makes me wonder really (if UFO's are indeed real) if the craft uses the force of the sonic boom to further project itself faster.

anyone have any thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


Its because they are not moving through the 'air'. They are moving in between the air.
 Quoting: Stepping through My Shadow


thats an interesting thought!
can you explain more about this?

what would be an interesting thought on that theory is:
why would beings from another planet, adapt there crafts to our atmospher to be able to do that?
and how did the first (of that alisn species) know what our atmosphere would do and not do to their ships, without ever 1st entering it in a "test" period?

 Quoting: Krime 5469820


The universe works the same everywhere. Especially electricity and magnetism. Just got to use the correct science, not the flawed science we may be using.
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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Ive noticed a weird occurance eveythime i've seen videos of UFO's
they take off faster than shit, yet, NO SONIC BOOM?
in every case ive seen theres no sonic boom. traveling that fast, it is impossable NOT to break the sound berrier.
we have (in the USA) the worlds fastest jet fighters and other aircraft, and at their high speeds breaks the sound berrier with a sonic boom every time.

makes me wonder really (if UFO's are indeed real) if the craft uses the force of the sonic boom to further project itself faster.

anyone have any thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


Light particles travel faster than sound so why don't they make a "sonic boom"

Think about it!
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We are either seeing a light projection or some technology to decrease inertia.

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I seen a bump against eachother for fun one ... Or that was another one.
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We are either seeing a light projection or some technology to decrease inertia.

abduct
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Almost another color.
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Just login ask and get a headacke or not button with kaput joystick.
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oh nope
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Within our atmospheric envelope, They use a secondary propulsion system; gravitational.

Their primary propulsion details would appear to be classified, to read between the lines of Their communications.
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A sonic boom is created from the noise of the aircraft. It builds up in front of the craft as it accellerates. UFO's in videos that i have seen dont accellerate. They are still, then instantly moving the speed at which they travel.
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Inertialess drive a la E.E.Doc Smith
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Inertialess drive a la E.E.Doc Smith
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Would that solve the G Force problem?
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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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It did in the Lensmen series books,One of my favorites
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It did in the Lensmen series books,One of my favorites
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Oh...gotcha.

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Ive noticed a weird occurance eveythime i've seen videos of UFO's
they take off faster than shit, yet, NO SONIC BOOM?
in every case ive seen theres no sonic boom. traveling that fast, it is impossable NOT to break the sound berrier.
we have (in the USA) the worlds fastest jet fighters and other aircraft, and at their high speeds breaks the sound berrier with a sonic boom every time.

makes me wonder really (if UFO's are indeed real) if the craft uses the force of the sonic boom to further project itself faster.

anyone have any thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


Its because they are not moving through the 'air'. They are moving in between the air.
 Quoting: Stepping through My Shadow


thats an interesting thought!
can you explain more about this?

what would be an interesting thought on that theory is:
why would beings from another planet, adapt there crafts to our atmospher to be able to do that?
and how did the first (of that alisn species) know what our atmosphere would do and not do to their ships, without ever 1st entering it in a "test" period?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


It was a really interesting theory, and it was backed up with some good science theory. Man, I can't remember where I heard/read it.

This is going to be wrong, because I can't remember it exactly, but it will give you the 'idea'. If you are still interested, I'll spend some time trying to find where I found it. It might have be Dr. LaViolette's thoughts.

They don't actually 'move' as we know it. The do small spacial jumps. They create a wormhole directly in front of it, and they go from one tiny wormhole to the next, jumping from one going through the tiny wormhole, and exiting a very short distance away. Short enough to make it appear as if it is moving normally. It is the same way as they would travel very far distances.

Now, wormhole is completely the wrong term, but it lets you visualize the idea.

Dammit, lol. Now I want to look into this again.

They create holes in space/time. But, its not really a hole. It is more of a slipping between reality. It can be pretty accurately explained (in theory of course) using electromagnetism. One of the problems posed was the amount of energy needing to be used is tremendous. But, that was solved by solving the 'free energy' problem.

As you can see, it solves a lot of the 'physics' problems as well. They would always be standing still. No G forces, etc.
 Quoting: Stepping through My Shadow


This is similar to my thoery.

awhile back it was reported that the LHC may create a black
hole. They said if it did create one it probably wouldnt last very long and not be dangerous.


I suspect the aliens have figured this out, and mastered it.

If thier ship can create a mini black hole in front of itself, the ship would free fall toward it. You dont feel the effects of accelleration in free fall. You are at zero gravity, so they would be able to accellerate infinitly fast without feeling any accelleration.
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Ive noticed a weird occurance eveythime i've seen videos of UFO's
they take off faster than shit, yet, NO SONIC BOOM?
in every case ive seen theres no sonic boom. traveling that fast, it is impossable NOT to break the sound berrier.
we have (in the USA) the worlds fastest jet fighters and other aircraft, and at their high speeds breaks the sound berrier with a sonic boom every time.

makes me wonder really (if UFO's are indeed real) if the craft uses the force of the sonic boom to further project itself faster.

anyone have any thoughts on this?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


heard a loud boom while looking at the sky and seeing what looked like the back of a star wars movie craft slowing and proceeding in an instant. ..hard to believe i'm sure, i'm still trying to accept it was no jet but it was otherwise silent and invisible. it seemed unreal something could move that fast and the sonic boom sound was loud and caused me to stumble. ..I believe they are moving too fast maybe.
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Its because they are not moving through the 'air'. They are moving in between the air.
 Quoting: Stepping through My Shadow


thats an interesting thought!
can you explain more about this?

what would be an interesting thought on that theory is:
why would beings from another planet, adapt there crafts to our atmospher to be able to do that?
and how did the first (of that alisn species) know what our atmosphere would do and not do to their ships, without ever 1st entering it in a "test" period?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


It was a really interesting theory, and it was backed up with some good science theory. Man, I can't remember where I heard/read it.

This is going to be wrong, because I can't remember it exactly, but it will give you the 'idea'. If you are still interested, I'll spend some time trying to find where I found it. It might have be Dr. LaViolette's thoughts.

They don't actually 'move' as we know it. The do small spacial jumps. They create a wormhole directly in front of it, and they go from one tiny wormhole to the next, jumping from one going through the tiny wormhole, and exiting a very short distance away. Short enough to make it appear as if it is moving normally. It is the same way as they would travel very far distances.

Now, wormhole is completely the wrong term, but it lets you visualize the idea.

Dammit, lol. Now I want to look into this again.

They create holes in space/time. But, its not really a hole. It is more of a slipping between reality. It can be pretty accurately explained (in theory of course) using electromagnetism. One of the problems posed was the amount of energy needing to be used is tremendous. But, that was solved by solving the 'free energy' problem.

As you can see, it solves a lot of the 'physics' problems as well. They would always be standing still. No G forces, etc.
 Quoting: Stepping through My Shadow


This is similar to my thoery.

awhile back it was reported that the LHC may create a black
hole. They said if it did create one it probably wouldnt last very long and not be dangerous.


I suspect the aliens have figured this out, and mastered it.

If thier ship can create a mini black hole in front of itself, the ship would free fall toward it. You dont feel the effects of accelleration in free fall. You are at zero gravity, so they would be able to accellerate infinitly fast without feeling any accelleration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554016


hmmm interesting:
however, according to physics (ours anyway) at the rate an object falls per minute will not exeed a certan speed per/object.
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"vehicle specifications

... capable of velocities above C to power of 10 in certain vibrational sequences (realms)...

propulsion units

primary .. classified

secondary .. uses magnetic, gravitational and reactory lines of force through Space ...

back-up to primary and secondary .. Ion drive with discriminatory capabilities to lock onto either;

1) two pole gravitation, or

2) existing magnetic lines of force caused by Planetary movement and/or perturbations of mass in Space."

- from 'Operation Space Magic' by George King Ph.D, D.Litt.
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A sonic boom is created from the noise of the aircraft. It builds up in front of the craft as it accellerates. UFO's in videos that i have seen dont accellerate. They are still, then instantly moving the speed at which they travel.
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accelleration can be comprised of any object that moves.
therefpr if it moved, in any direction, it accellerated.
once it hit a certan speed, it being an object, it should have created a sonic boom.
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Aliens are smart, they travel only 1 MPH below the sonic boom barrier. They told me once.
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"vehicle specifications

... capable of velocities above C to power of 10 in certain vibrational sequences (realms)...

propulsion units

primary .. classified

secondary .. uses magnetic, gravitational and reactory lines of force through Space ...

back-up to primary and secondary .. Ion drive with discriminatory capabilities to lock onto either;

1) two pole gravitation, or

2) existing magnetic lines of force caused by Planetary movement and/or perturbations of mass in Space."

- from 'Operation Space Magic' by George King Ph.D, D.Litt.
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cool, but its still an object.
take for example

(if i was badass enough)
if i took anything, any object, and by my own hand i could throw it fast enough to break the sound berrier, it should make a boom (equil to the size of the object)
in this atmosphere, it happens with all and anything traveling at thzt rate, except for UFO's.
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thats an interesting thought!
can you explain more about this?

what would be an interesting thought on that theory is:
why would beings from another planet, adapt there crafts to our atmospher to be able to do that?
and how did the first (of that alisn species) know what our atmosphere would do and not do to their ships, without ever 1st entering it in a "test" period?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


It was a really interesting theory, and it was backed up with some good science theory. Man, I can't remember where I heard/read it.

This is going to be wrong, because I can't remember it exactly, but it will give you the 'idea'. If you are still interested, I'll spend some time trying to find where I found it. It might have be Dr. LaViolette's thoughts.

They don't actually 'move' as we know it. The do small spacial jumps. They create a wormhole directly in front of it, and they go from one tiny wormhole to the next, jumping from one going through the tiny wormhole, and exiting a very short distance away. Short enough to make it appear as if it is moving normally. It is the same way as they would travel very far distances.

Now, wormhole is completely the wrong term, but it lets you visualize the idea.

Dammit, lol. Now I want to look into this again.

They create holes in space/time. But, its not really a hole. It is more of a slipping between reality. It can be pretty accurately explained (in theory of course) using electromagnetism. One of the problems posed was the amount of energy needing to be used is tremendous. But, that was solved by solving the 'free energy' problem.

As you can see, it solves a lot of the 'physics' problems as well. They would always be standing still. No G forces, etc.
 Quoting: Stepping through My Shadow


This is similar to my thoery.

awhile back it was reported that the LHC may create a black
hole. They said if it did create one it probably wouldnt last very long and not be dangerous.


I suspect the aliens have figured this out, and mastered it.

If thier ship can create a mini black hole in front of itself, the ship would free fall toward it. You dont feel the effects of accelleration in free fall. You are at zero gravity, so they would be able to accellerate infinitly fast without feeling any accelleration.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554016


hmmm interesting:
however, according to physics (ours anyway) at the rate an object falls per minute will not exeed a certan speed per/object.
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


My physics says you will accellerate at a specific rate based on the gravitational field your in until you reach terminal velocity. A black hole's gravitational field is greater than the speed of light.
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"vehicle specifications

... capable of velocities above C to power of 10 in certain vibrational sequences (realms)...

propulsion units

primary .. classified

secondary .. uses magnetic, gravitational and reactory lines of force through Space ...

back-up to primary and secondary .. Ion drive with discriminatory capabilities to lock onto either;

1) two pole gravitation, or

2) existing magnetic lines of force caused by Planetary movement and/or perturbations of mass in Space."

- from 'Operation Space Magic' by George King Ph.D, D.Litt.
 Quoting: schiehallion


cool, but its still an object.
take for example

(if i was badass enough)
if i took anything, any object, and by my own hand i could throw it fast enough to break the sound berrier, it should make a boom (equil to the size of the object)
in this atmosphere, it happens with all and anything traveling at thzt rate, except for UFO's.
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


It 'encompasses' the area of the UFO. So, the entire field within and without is within the 'movement'. Something like that.
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