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Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...

 
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Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
The solar system would not be a very stable or pleasant place if there were even a minimum mass brown dwarf passing through it every 3600 years...

Low inclination orbits of the planets? Forget about it!
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
I am still trying to figure out what gravity really is. Along with everyone else in the world.

We humans really dont know much.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
I am still trying to figure out what gravity really is. Along with everyone else in the world.

We humans really dont know much.
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We do know orbital mechanics well enough to do the above analysis...
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
I am still trying to figure out what gravity really is. Along with everyone else in the world.

We humans really dont know much.
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We do know orbital mechanics well enough to do the above analysis...
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I am not arguing that.

Was just stating we dont really know what gravity is, or how it really works.

Nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
5*s pretty interesting stuff hf
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
You are certainly obsessed with this little brown dwarf that doesn't exist...hmmmm.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
We do know orbital mechanics well enough to do the above analysis...
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
You are certainly obsessed with this little brown dwarf that doesn't exist...hmmmm.
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How do you know?
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
Oh, btw, who is the person speaking in the video? He doesn't identify himself. He sounds like he knows what he's talking about - maybe that impresses some. But without more information, IMO he's just another You Tuber providing an opinion.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
I dont remember all these bright stars (planets) in my youth.

Hell these bright ones (planets) in the last 5 weeks early morning are just freaky.

Been around over half century and some of the stuff in the last 5-6 years is just unseen before.

Of course you will say its normal.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
You are certainly obsessed with this little brown dwarf that doesn't exist...hmmmm.
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How do you know?
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If you've followed his posts for the past few years, you'd know. Trust me.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
We do know orbital mechanics well enough to do the above analysis...
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I have a burning question that relates to the universe, cosmos and everything under the Sun:

Do Knowledge Management Specialists get paid by the post, hourly, or is it salary?


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Why are you asking me? I'm just an amateur astronomer. Your question doesn't relate to the thread at all.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
I dont remember all these bright stars (planets) in my youth.

Hell these bright ones (planets) in the last 5 weeks early morning are just freaky.

Been around over half century and some of the stuff in the last 5-6 years is just unseen before.

Of course you will say its normal.
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I haven't hit half a century yet, but I will agree with you on one point: the planets (especially Venus) seem brighter now. And the moon - maybe it's just my imagination - seems bigger. Brighter. It is a little freaky. Although I am sure we will be told by knowledgeable You Tubers with calm, controlled, JPL-trained voices that we have no reason to freak.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
You are certainly obsessed with this little brown dwarf that doesn't exist...hmmmm.
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How do you know?
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If you've followed his posts for the past few years, you'd know. Trust me.
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Fine. So what? I enjoy debunking astronomical nonsense and I enjoy analyzing orbits, what's it to you?
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
oh man this is bad news, looks like We're not going any where anytime soon
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
So what your saying is that the earthquakes and the weather that we are having have nothing to do with a planet coming near earth. OK, what other reasons are given for Niburu to be approaching that ignore the lack of disturbance just described and prove it is out there? What makes people think Niburu is coming other than prophecy?
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
Nice demonstration.

Who's to say the Anunnaki have or have not the technology that manipulates gravity.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
I dont remember all these bright stars (planets) in my youth.

Hell these bright ones (planets) in the last 5 weeks early morning are just freaky.

Been around over half century and some of the stuff in the last 5-6 years is just unseen before.

Of course you will say its normal.
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It IS normal. Venus is currently about magnitude -4, this is predicted using a formula created over 60 years ago.

The original phase coefficient determined by Danjon some 63 years ago was this:
V(1,0)+ delta m(i) = -4.29 + 0.09(i/100)+ 2.39(i/100)^2 - 0.65(i/100)^3
where the formula for the visual magnitude of the planet is
V = V(1,0) + 5 log10(rd) + delta m(i)
V(1,0) = the magnitude of the planet as seen from 1 AU and a phase angle of 0°
r = distance of planet from sun
d = distance of planet from earth
delta m(i) = phase coefficient for the phase angle "i"
More refined solutions were determined by Knuckles and Irvine in the 60's, but the basic premise is the same. This formula was empirically determined by Danjon from 335 observations spanning 10 years.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
No Nibiru? Damn. I'll have to destroy the world myself.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
You are certainly obsessed with this little brown dwarf that doesn't exist...hmmmm.
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Yeah, for a purely "hypothetical" object that is supposedly most bullshit... I don't understand why Astromut spends hundreds of hours debunking this. That can not be denied, anyone who is on GLP regularly knows about his obessesion with commenting on nearly every "nibiru" thread that arises. Chances are, if there is in fact something there that is relatively close, it would be an object that we either very little or no understanding of. Perhaps some fringe gov. agency would know about something like that, but I doubt Astromut would be privileged to that information. I am not saying Nibiru exists or doesn't, but I do believe that Astromut has a particular infatuation with it.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
Nice demonstration.

Who's to say the Anunnaki have or have not the technology that manipulates gravity.
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If Nibiru is true, then I would guess the Annunaki are real too.

With that being said, I would think any civilization advanced enough to do what they are said to have done... would be able to do many things that are beyond our comprehension.


Anti-Grav, Energy Manipulation, Genetic alteration, cloaking, and more.

Fun topic to research for sure.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
why don't you quit giving nancy the time of day and drop the brown dwarf hypothesis.

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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
Nice demonstration.

Who's to say the Anunnaki have or have not the technology that manipulates gravity.
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Handwaving to magic. You may as well say they have magical powers and therefore violate the laws of physics and they also possess a klingon cloaking device. Simply put, it's woo-woo nonsense. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
There's something about this Astronut character....
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
Nice demonstration.

Who's to say the Anunnaki have or have not the technology that manipulates gravity.
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well, let's see. we appear to have two options here:

1. nibiru is a giant brown dwarf in our solar system inhabited by magic men technologically capable of altering the fabric of reality so as to negate the gravitational effects of their planet/star on neighboring bodies

2. you're a fucking idiot

tough choice
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
why don't you quit giving nancy the time of day and drop the brown dwarf hypothesis.
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Quote me where I said a damn thing about nancy. Oh wait, don't bother, I didn't say a damn thing about nancy.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
I like the snarly dog face.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
You are certainly obsessed with this little brown dwarf that doesn't exist...hmmmm.
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How do you know?
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If you've followed his posts for the past few years, you'd know. Trust me.
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Fine. So what? I enjoy debunking astronomical nonsense and I enjoy analyzing orbits, what's it to you?
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Yeah, but of the exact same "imaginary" celestial body... for years now... that goes a little beyond a innocent curiosity.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
You are certainly obsessed with this little brown dwarf that doesn't exist...hmmmm.
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How do you know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52191


If you've followed his posts for the past few years, you'd know. Trust me.
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Fine. So what? I enjoy debunking astronomical nonsense and I enjoy analyzing orbits, what's it to you?
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LOL. Eh, it's "nothing" to me...but it is amusing and curious. For example, I don't think that Bigfoot exists, and I also have VERY serious doubts about Nessie and the Yeti, as well. But I can't imagine hanging out on a conspiracy forum for years on end, day in and day out, "debunking" topics like these that are clearly ridiculous and that no one in their right mind would believe in. It's just peculiar to spend so much time debunking something that one believe is so clearly nonsense. Seems like the effort of debunking should be directed more towards topics that have at least some marginal credibility.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
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How do you know?
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If you've followed his posts for the past few years, you'd know. Trust me.
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Fine. So what? I enjoy debunking astronomical nonsense and I enjoy analyzing orbits, what's it to you?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Yeah, but of the exact same "imaginary" celestial body... for years now... that goes a little beyond a innocent curiosity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10513178


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