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Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...

 
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Still my proposition cannot be overlooked, you are saying the lack of evidence for it justifies it as non existent, clearly not a good way to go about thinking thing.
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I've got a bit of experience in plotting my own interplanetary orbits for simulated missions, so believe me when I say, your proposition is anything but reasonable and I want to see you plot such an orbit. It's your proposition, not mine, it's up to you to show that it's reasonable.



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Hard for someone to calculate is one thing, but for it to be real is another. They are two different things and hold no relevance with each other.

Well I must hit the hay. Talking with you has been most enjoyable.
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Notice he said BROWN DWARF. Why didn't he say any planet any asteroid any anomoly.
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Asteroid? Did you say asteroid?
Thread: Here's what a real cosmic threat looks like
Zeroing on the nibiru thing again. You just hade a thread up about Nibiru. Two days ago? This is just another repeat.
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The last one was a specific case of such an object rapidly approaching us, this is a general scenario to see if such a system is even stable. This Nibiru fun has an expiration date on it, or at least a "best-by" date of December 21st. I'm going to do the best I can to address it and debunk it until then.
Another thing. The Video. He Clearly does not Identify Himself with any Reputable Group or Organization.
 Quoting: AC

An inverse of the appeal to authority logical fallacy. In fact, you're really suggesting that I should have used an appeal to authority.
If your going to be taken seriously then might not you post a video that can be clearly linked with a governing body.
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No, I don't work for the government and the people who I made the video for wouldn't pay attention to it if I did.
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Ha. You're joking right? Mystery planet X has a million different names and a million different dates, it's going to survive 2012 as long as we do :)
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Still my proposition cannot be overlooked, you are saying the lack of evidence for it justifies it as non existent, clearly not a good way to go about thinking thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7916217

I've got a bit of experience in plotting my own interplanetary orbits for simulated missions, so believe me when I say, your proposition is anything but reasonable and I want to see you plot such an orbit. It's your proposition, not mine, it's up to you to show that it's reasonable.



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Hard for someone to calculate is one thing, but for it to be real is another.
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It's up to you to show that a valid stable orbit could even be constructed. Not me.
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Notice he said BROWN DWARF. Why didn't he say any planet any asteroid any anomoly.
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Asteroid? Did you say asteroid?
Thread: Here's what a real cosmic threat looks like
Zeroing on the nibiru thing again. You just hade a thread up about Nibiru. Two days ago? This is just another repeat.
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The last one was a specific case of such an object rapidly approaching us, this is a general scenario to see if such a system is even stable. This Nibiru fun has an expiration date on it, or at least a "best-by" date of December 21st. I'm going to do the best I can to address it and debunk it until then.
Another thing. The Video. He Clearly does not Identify Himself with any Reputable Group or Organization.
 Quoting: AC

An inverse of the appeal to authority logical fallacy. In fact, you're really suggesting that I should have used an appeal to authority.
If your going to be taken seriously then might not you post a video that can be clearly linked with a governing body.
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No, I don't work for the government and the people who I made the video for wouldn't pay attention to it if I did.
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Ha. You're joking right? Mystery planet X has a million different names and a million different dates, it's going to survive 2012 as long as we do :)
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I think most people will realize it's bullshit after this year.
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Still my proposition cannot be overlooked, you are saying the lack of evidence for it justifies it as non existent, clearly not a good way to go about thinking thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7916217

I've got a bit of experience in plotting my own interplanetary orbits for simulated missions, so believe me when I say, your proposition is anything but reasonable and I want to see you plot such an orbit. It's your proposition, not mine, it's up to you to show that it's reasonable.



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Hard for someone to calculate is one thing, but for it to be real is another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7916217

It's up to you to show that a valid stable orbit could even be constructed. Not me.
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Oh darn, and I wished to sleep, maybe later eh?

I cannot prove such an orbit is possible in the time span of this conversation. Maybe after a phew years, I could crack at it, but I lack the motivation, simply to prove to you is not enough for me.

You are saying since you see no proof, you are disregarding. proof is relative to the beholder. I have proved to myself that it is possible, yet you say there is no proof it is possible. To satisfy you is beyond my capabilities. Maybe I have not done so well, or maybe your terms are un fair.

I still say it is possible. I am sorry I cannot convince you(again, I disagree with theory, but I think it quite possible, for thinking that something impossible brings fear to me.)
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Still my proposition cannot be overlooked, you are saying the lack of evidence for it justifies it as non existent, clearly not a good way to go about thinking thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7916217

I've got a bit of experience in plotting my own interplanetary orbits for simulated missions, so believe me when I say, your proposition is anything but reasonable and I want to see you plot such an orbit. It's your proposition, not mine, it's up to you to show that it's reasonable.



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Hard for someone to calculate is one thing, but for it to be real is another.
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It's up to you to show that a valid stable orbit could even be constructed. Not me.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Have to agree with Asto on this.

As he said earlier

If your going to make extraordinary claims, you best provide some extraordinary evidence.

Out of all the planet X claims and postings on GLP, I've yet to see anything that holds up to enough scrutiny to even be considered as evidence.

Your request of Astro to prove you're not right, parallels to requesting him to prove that God is not a giant spaghetti monster.

If you really think your right then PROVE IT!
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
wonderful presentation. great job putting together all that data.!

KEY THING HERE IS THO ..

WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A HUGE AND MASSIVE BROWN DWARF STAR.

i mean OBVIOUSLY?

that was an idea and theory presented by those to spin the truth of the cyclical return of a particular extraterrestrial group of beings. and whatever the technology is they use to get here, may or may not be planet sized at all. they could be cloaking themselves in a way to appear as a "brown dwarf star" OR MORE ACCURATE TO APPEARANCE, creating a gravity well of seemingly disturbed space at times..

but even if they do have planet sized technology they use, this technology would almost definitely consist of mechanics that allow for the least amount of gravitational resistance or disturbance to be applied the the immediate environment of the body. this would be the first sort of "safety measure" i would assume would be thought of with this sort of technology.
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nibiru is real... a guy on youtube said sosheepsheepsheepsheep
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Astro,

I didn't even watch the video or even read most of this thread, but from what I've seen you post as I lurked back in the day(just registered today!) I gotta say you know quite a bit. Keep it up, we don't need to be afraid of something we have no proof of when the world is going to shit because of the people here, ON THIS PLANET!

Thanks man
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The mistake astromut makes and has always made is to think that the periodic astro event is a brown dwarf.
Though it is true that the suns twin is approuching it will not come closer than the outer orbit of Pluto.
The 3,600 orbit that is responsible for the periodic earth changes that have and are about to occur is due to an orbiting comet cluster that enters the ecliptic on a regular basis.
Contry to popular opinion, comets are not all ice particles but also many comets are nickel based............ this explains why some do not disintergrate when hear the sun and why some flair up great distances from the sun............
this also accounts for the electro magnetic fluxes that occur.
Astro is correct in insisting that a Brown Dwarf entering into the inner solar system is not probable but he errors in failing to grasp the inner knowledge that so many understand as to the "time and the season".
The comet cluster which houses thousands of objects will appear as a single body at first but will approuch scattered.
Many will hit the earth as explained in numerous prophecies ect.
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nice story bro.

no need to be afraid. massive amount of fear drip here. i usually stay away but i'll rock a few as i love y'all.

so it turns out nibiru is real. no worries.

one thing i gotta say is just a bit o honey..

we can make these orbits and stuff and it holds all good assuming what we know is what we know. problem is "we ain't found shit!!" from combing the desert..

turns out these planets and stuff change places more often than commonly supposed...



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All of this astronomy talk is making me moist!
So come up to the lab and see what's on the slab. I see you shiver with antici... pation.
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I've received bad karma in the past for agreeing with Astromut and TBar, and that hasn't stopped me from backing their educated opinions at all.

Great thread Dr. A, keep on it.
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Ok, I am confused. How are you not understanding what I am saying? I will say again.(or maybe you are losing track of conversation with me, seeing as you have many going at once, this is not un plausible)

Tidal locking is a known phenomenon, and it acts in a PRECISE PATTERN, if such a significant pattern happens rite here, why should an equally significant pattern else where be ruled out so quickly just because it would need to be so precise?
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It's because you are doing the standard GLP kOOk thing...

In your arrogant ignorance, you've entered a discussion on a topic of which you have no, none, zero, 0, knowledge.
Therefore your statements are completely illucid gibberish to those who know the subject.

You may as well be saying, "Bar, bar, bar. Glimph, snorkle, glub.", because that's what it sounds like. It's just that you're too ignorant to realize you are making no sense.

Don't feel badly. There are quite a few on this thread who are as bad or worse than you.
I'm thinking the skateboarding, 5th grade, gas-mask moron at this point.
He makes even less sense than you and is much more arrogant in his abject ignorance.


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^^^ THIS ^^^
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This is the same guy who contends that everything is normal all the time. Things are as they should be all the time. Are things really normal? Are they? Noticed anything weird lately? Astro has stated zillions of times that the Earth Does Not Wobble. Its exactly the same as it was Zillions of years ago. That being said go look at this Video animation of the Earths Rotation/Axis on The Watchers Site. I know he went and watched it. He still thinks everything is Normal. Go Figure ???
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The solar system would not be a very stable or pleasant place if there were even a minimum mass brown dwarf passing through it every 3600 years...

Low inclination orbits of the planets? Forget about it!
 Quoting: Dr. Astro



Whomever made the video is

(1) chronocentric to the extreme.
(2) They have apparently not heard of Immanuel Velikovsky;
(3) they have apparently not heard of early archeological astronomy calculations of the ancients;
(4) they have not heard of modern day physics in the context of Bode's Law and the natural fast repair of planetary locations after perturbations due to gravitoelectrical solar charges.

Let's evaluate each of these points a bit and elaborate:

(1) Chronocentric to the extreme: The video producer assumes that a change in planetary orbits could not have happened in the past because he sees order now. FALSE ASSUMPTION. What does he know about orbital mechanics that would suggest his assumption is anything near accurate? NOTHING. He's just ASS-U-MEing that if there were past orbital disruptions that there would be evidence of same right now today. This is, as I said, an assumption and he has presented no case that his assumptions have any basis in fact.

(2) They have apparently not heard of Immanuel Velikovsky... Velikovsly wrote 5 massive tomes in which he collected, collated, and synthesized ancient legends and histories from all over the globe. The outcome was that Venus was a new planet and was, prior to its capture, a comet having been ripped from Jupiter by an invasive astronomical body foreign to the Solar System. He discusses Tiamat and Marduk and other Sumerian scripts, much like Sitchin, in which profound chaos existed in the Solar System in the past causing absolutely incredible terrestrial effects, mass extinctions, earth changes, volcanism, tsunamis, and other chaos. He wrote that Venus' period as a comet caused repeated effects on Gaia and that it terrorized human culture for a large number of years. In short, the orbits of all the planets WERE historically perturbed into chaos -- and then the restabilized.

(3) the video producer has apparently not heard of early archeological astronomy calculations of the ancients. Consider the Sumerians and their calculations and legends associated with their calendar/calculations:
(a) Tiamat: [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
(b) Tiamat/comet: [link to www.sitchin.com]
(c) Marduk (Mars) and Tiamat (the planet that was destroyed becoming 1) part of the asteroid belt and 2) earth: [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
(d) Velikovsky: Worlds in Collision: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
(e) Velikovsky's "Comet Venus": [link to www.gks.uk.com]
(f) Mayan calendar chaos: [link to www.triumphpro.com]
(g) 360-day year (5 days shorter than now): [link to www.friendsofsabbath.org]
(h) much, much more...

(4) they have not heard of modern day physics in the context of Bode's Law and the natural fast repair of planetary locations after perturbations due to gravitoelectrical solar charges.
(a) "A number of computer simulations have, over the years, revealed that planetary systems ought to eventually stabilise into a regular pattern of planetary distances as a consequence of both their initial formation spacing, and billions of years of gravitational perturbations..." [link to www.math.nus.edu.sg]

So, in short... video producer/astronomer does nothing to account for any of the 4 points above. It is theoretically possible that an incoming perturbing body totally screwed up the orbitals and eccentricities of all the planets and caused massive upheaval globally and, once they perturbing body left, the planets eventually reassumed their appropriate orbitals dues to Bode's law. The Video producer must disprove this theory proposed here if he wishes to have any credibility in his own weak presentation.
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oooh snap!
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oooh snap!


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great post!

here's a question though.. i know the 'nemesis' theory has been tossed.. but what if it wasn't a brown dwarf .. what if it was a red dwarf? or something else much smaller than a brown dwarf with 4 times the mass of Jupiter or whatever?
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I was thinking the same thing, but then I remembered that Mr. Mut has indicated that all the historic writings, stone carvings, geological records, and pretty much all the evidence found to date, IS ACTUALLY PART OF A HUGE CONSPIRACY TO MAKE US LOOK STUPID for thinking we were smart enough to put this all together and that maybe, just maybe, we might be close to another one of these cycles.
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well, thanks for commenting on my question, I thought it was reasonable.. but it seems to have either been ignored or missed.

i honestly believe there is much more mystery left to the universe than a lot of the other space junkies (especially) the more intelligent of the group.

it's like they feel after they read it in a book, it's written in stone somewhere, for all eternity.


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but.. i liked the video. :)
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Titus-Bode Law
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Is irrelevant here.
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Listen, you're not the authority. Titus-Bode Law dictates exactly how far away from the Sun a given planet's orbital shell will fall.
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LMFAO! I'm more an authority than you. It's irrelevant here, it says nothing about the effect a perturbing brown dwarf would have! It assumes a stable solar system.
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Can you even read?

Titius-Bode Law dictates that a perturbed solar system WOULD, IN FACT, RETURN TO ITS UNPERTURBED STATE ONCE THE PERTURBING AGENT HAS LEFT (and some time to re-establish itself has elapsed).

DUH.

<Slaps self up-side the head because this "astronomer" is unable to read/think outside his cherished paradigm.>
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wonderful presentation. great job putting together all that data.!

KEY THING HERE IS THO ..

WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A HUGE AND MASSIVE BROWN DWARF STAR.

i mean OBVIOUSLY?

that was an idea and theory presented by those to spin the truth of the cyclical return of a particular extraterrestrial group of beings. and whatever the technology is they use to get here, may or may not be planet sized at all. they could be cloaking themselves in a way to appear as a "brown dwarf star" OR MORE ACCURATE TO APPEARANCE, creating a gravity well of seemingly disturbed space at times..

but even if they do have planet sized technology they use, this technology would almost definitely consist of mechanics that allow for the least amount of gravitational resistance or disturbance to be applied the the immediate environment of the body. this would be the first sort of "safety measure" i would assume would be thought of with this sort of technology.
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Has science found dark matter yet?

NO

Does dark matter account for like 90% of the mass of the universe according to science?

YES

Can an incoming body be made of 'Dark Matter?'

YES, I suppose it could.

Can that incoming body, which you admit is possible, be this Nibiru/Nemesis/binary-partner of the Sun?

Well, YES, I suppose that is possible.

So it is then possible that Nibiru, being able to affect the Solar System gravitationally, electrically, and otherwise, be entirely invisible due to a "Dark Matter" construction?

YES, I suppose so.

Is it possible that a Nibiru encounter which has disrupted normal orbital mechanics of Sol's planetary system then eventually be made 'undone' as Sol's electric planetary orbitals are re-established once the affector has left?
A Titius-Bode 'recalibration' if you will?

"Duh, I dunno," says Astromut...
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The solar system would not be a very stable or pleasant place if there were even a minimum mass brown dwarf passing through it every 3600 years...
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Instead of through we have near. What would the required minimum distance be for the bd having a first noticable effect on the solar system?
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We have had big comets pass through the Solar System and they have had no effect on the planets orbits.
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"Big comets" are low mass objects that have quite a small physical nucleus compared to planets. They shouldn't have effects on planetary orbits.
We know that something is pulling on Uranus and Neptune.
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Wrong.
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]
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Guys, Am sticking up for Astro here.

Plenty of large, massive objects have passed through our system and no orbits were noticeably tweaked. This was always the sticking thought in my research that never let me 100% believe the brown dwarf theory.

Astro is right on in his analysis of the sub class stars. These suckers are so magnetically massive, as soon as one would be as close to us as say Neptune - we would be living scenes out of the John Cusack movie already.

Something's up, just not a brown dwarf. Let's hope not a black hole. That research literally makes you reach for the Tums antacids. Scary sh#t.
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Brown Dwarf. Brown Dwarf. Brown Dwarf. Brown DwarF. Why does Planet X have to be A Brown Dwarf? Why does it have to be as big as Jupiter for your model to work. Couldn't possibly be anything else? Are you sure? How would you know and this is all speculation on your part. How the hell could you know anything really. Fits YOUR MODEL though doesn't it.
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Notice he said BROWN DWARF. Why didn't he say any planet any asteroid any anomoly.
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Asteroid? Did you say asteroid?
Thread: Here's what a real cosmic threat looks like
Zeroing on the nibiru thing again. You just hade a thread up about Nibiru. Two days ago? This is just another repeat.
 Quoting: AC

The last one was a specific case of such an object rapidly approaching us, this is a general scenario to see if such a system is even stable. This Nibiru fun has an expiration date on it, or at least a "best-by" date of December 21st. I'm going to do the best I can to address it and debunk it until then.
Another thing. The Video. He Clearly does not Identify Himself with any Reputable Group or Organization.
 Quoting: AC

An inverse of the appeal to authority logical fallacy. In fact, you're really suggesting that I should have used an appeal to authority.
If your going to be taken seriously then might not you post a video that can be clearly linked with a governing body.
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No, I don't work for the government and the people who I made the video for wouldn't pay attention to it if I did.
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Ha. You're joking right? Mystery planet X has a million different names and a million different dates, it's going to survive 2012 as long as we do :)
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I think most people will realize it's bullshit after this year.
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Unfortunately you can cure "Stupid" so instead the nibiru-tards will simple provide a new date of passage or fixate on some other pixel defect on another image to be nibiru and then claim it is coming from some other dimension...

I've watched this planetX/nibiru/nemesis mess go on from most of my life.
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Astro,

I didn't even watch the video or even read most of this thread, but from what I've seen you post as I lurked back in the day(just registered today!) I gotta say you know quite a bit. Keep it up, we don't need to be afraid of something we have no proof of when the world is going to shit because of the people here, ON THIS PLANET!

Thanks man
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LOL spot on!
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Astro,

I didn't even watch the video or even read most of this thread, but from what I've seen you post as I lurked back in the day(just registered today!) I gotta say you know quite a bit. Keep it up, we don't need to be afraid of something we have no proof of when the world is going to shit because of the people here, ON THIS PLANET!

Thanks man
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LOL spot on!
 Quoting: 4n0nYm0u5 c0\/\/4rD 1037709


You don't watch the video or read most of the post but Hey! Astro knows what he's talking about? Ya Right. Just like you do you fountain of unread unseen information. Guessing just like Astro.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
This bullshit with Astro is so misleading. Label the myth. Meaning call it a Brown Dwarf or Planet. Say its as big as Jupitor and then tell everybody that it does not exist. Thats the game here really. Astro's right. In that context, No it does not exist. But outside the box under different perimators somthing that comes along every 3600 years can exist. Could be a Comet too. Could be an Asteroid for that matter. The facts of GEOLOGY say somthing messes with Earth every 3600 years and a bit. So there it is. Somthing comes and messes with us. Astro doesn't know what it is anymore than the rest of us do. He is stakeing it all on nothing cause he has nothing to loose. Astronomy is not his profession. He has stated as much on a recent thread. I would bet any money Astro is a shrink.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
Astro,

I didn't even watch the video or even read most of this thread, but from what I've seen you post as I lurked back in the day(just registered today!) I gotta say you know quite a bit. Keep it up, we don't need to be afraid of something we have no proof of when the world is going to shit because of the people here, ON THIS PLANET!

Thanks man
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LOL spot on!
 Quoting: 4n0nYm0u5 c0\/\/4rD 1037709


You don't watch the video or read most of the post but Hey! Astro knows what he's talking about? Ya Right. Just like you do you fountain of unread unseen information. Guessing just like Astro.
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Yeah I saw the vids and posts. I've read plenty of the so-called 'evidence' to the contrary as well. I just don't think the current Nibiru theory is too crash hot.

In my opinion, the whole thing is a distraction from more pressing, earthly concerns. (Hence the quote above)

It's ok mate, there will be doom. Perhaps just not the way you are hoping for. I'm not here to kill your doom buzz :)

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