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Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...

 
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why don't you quit giving nancy the time of day and drop the brown dwarf hypothesis.
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Quote me where I said a damn thing about nancy. Oh wait, don't bother, I didn't say a damn thing about nancy.
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i know you didn't say anything about nancy, but she is the loudest proponent of the brown dwarf aspect of the nibiru theory. so even if you didn't mean to, you're still giving her attention.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
Nice demonstration.

Who's to say the Anunnaki have or have not the technology that manipulates gravity.
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Handwaving to magic. You may as well say they have magical powers and therefore violate the laws of physics and they also possess a klingon cloaking device. Simply put, it's woo-woo nonsense. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
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Good job, Astro man.

Now, let's wait to hear from the folk that prescribe to the theory that Nibiru shifts into our dimension before it approaches..........
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Still snake tossing at the zoo?

Not very nice. Not nice at all... but funny.

Have fun.


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Is that your dog Astro? Beautiful if so, just adopted a couple of Labs' myself recently. Anyhoo....


That simulation is pretty impressive.

By doing this demo though you do realize that you have just sent a shitload of GLPrs' into hysteria. You are making it your life's worth to debunk this shit.

Help us find the REAL culprit.
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This is the 2nd time Astro has convinced me. It might not last.

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I am still trying to figure out what gravity really is. Along with everyone else in the world.

We humans really dont know much.
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so basically you don't know shit. go away.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
why don't you quit giving nancy the time of day and drop the brown dwarf hypothesis.
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


Quote me where I said a damn thing about nancy. Oh wait, don't bother, I didn't say a damn thing about nancy.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


i know you didn't say anything about nancy, but she is the loudest proponent of the brown dwarf aspect of the nibiru theory. so even if you didn't mean to, you're still giving her attention.
 Quoting: Mordier L'eft


Nancy is far from the only such proponent. In fact, that's the standard claim from most proponents. Either Nibiru IS a brown dwarf or it is orbiting a brown dwarf. Either way, that's what this demonstration is for. I warned you I would not allow you to spam this thread if you had not yet produced the orbital elements you said you had. You have failed, you are dismissed.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
Very interesting.

I'd like to see a demo video of a minimal mass orbit that DOESN'T affect the orbits but none the less makes an orbit every 3600 years.

In other words what if Nibiru is not a Brown Dwarf but something smaller, small enough not to disrupt the orbits of the planets in our solar system but yet large enough to to have earth changes?

How big would that mass be then?

Gotta think out of the box, Astro.
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If you've followed his posts for the past few years, you'd know. Trust me.
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Fine. So what? I enjoy debunking astronomical nonsense and I enjoy analyzing orbits, what's it to you?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Yeah, but of the exact same "imaginary" celestial body... for years now... that goes a little beyond a innocent curiosity.
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:watchworldlearn:
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Classic misdirection at it's finest. What is your actual reason for debunking the Nibiru topic a thousand times over? Anyone who is capable of figuring out the facts would have learned about it's confirmation or denial would have "learned" a long time ago.
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I am still trying to figure out what gravity really is. Along with everyone else in the world.

We humans really dont know much.
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g = mass x velocity
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I am still trying to figure out what gravity really is. Along with everyone else in the world.

We humans really dont know much.
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g = mass x velocity
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No one know what gravity really is. Or how it works.


Astro, correct me if I am wrong on that.
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Fine. So what? I enjoy debunking astronomical nonsense and I enjoy analyzing orbits, what's it to you?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Yeah, but of the exact same "imaginary" celestial body... for years now... that goes a little beyond a innocent curiosity.
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:watchworldlearn:
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Classic misdirection at it's finest. What is your actual reason for debunking the Nibiru topic a thousand times over? Anyone who is capable of figuring out the facts would have learned about it's confirmation or denial would have "learned" a long time ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10513178


Maybe he wants to try and spread the real truth? The same damn reason every other psychopath is on this website. Typical idiots trying to throw stones at someone who present s evidence, god forbid it's credible.
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I am still trying to figure out what gravity really is. Along with everyone else in the world.

We humans really dont know much.
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so basically you don't know shit. go away.
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i apologize Revguard. my comment was towards astronut.
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OK no Nibiru, so what is causing all the planet changes? Must be Geo engineering because its not man made global warming. Maybe the earth is just growing and we are in a cycle?

I actually agree, if this planet was coming, we would already be in deep shit...

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You are certainly obsessed with this little brown dwarf that doesn't exist...hmmmm.
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Yeah, for a purely "hypothetical" object that is supposedly most bullshit... I don't understand why Astromut spends hundreds of hours debunking this. That can not be denied, anyone who is on GLP regularly knows about his obessesion with commenting on nearly every "nibiru" thread that arises. Chances are, if there is in fact something there that is relatively close, it would be an object that we either very little or no understanding of. Perhaps some fringe gov. agency would know about something like that, but I doubt Astromut would be privileged to that information. I am not saying Nibiru exists or doesn't, but I do believe that Astromut has a particular infatuation with it.
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Exxxxx-actly. I've heard all the protests, explanations and defenses ("I just want to educate the common idiot", "I LOVE astronomy!", "Hey, debunking is my thing - what's it to you?"), and honestly, none of them make sense to anyone with a working brain. No one has that much time on their hands - not even an amateur astronomer with a day job at Best Buy. Something fishy here.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
Very interesting.

I'd like to see a demo video of a minimal mass orbit that DOESN'T affect the orbits but none the less makes an orbit every 3600 years.

In other words what if Nibiru is not a Brown Dwarf but something smaller, small enough not to disrupt the orbits of the planets in our solar system but yet large enough to to have earth changes?

How big would that mass be then?

Gotta think out of the box, Astro.
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Yeah, if Nibiru did exist it would have to be something along these lines. Who knows, maybe its some type of low density/low mass object.

An interesting article about low-mass sub-stellar objects can be found here: [link to arxiv.org]
it's at the very least an interesting read for those more technically inclined. It doesn't seek to confirm or deny a rogue celestial body on some kind of wide elliptical orbit, but hey, like I said it's an interesting read.
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In other words what if Nibiru is not a Brown Dwarf but something smaller, small enough not to disrupt the orbits of the planets in our solar system but yet large enough to to have earth changes?

How big would that mass be then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21157089

Hard limits on the mass of any hypothetical object as a function of distance have already been established. Nothing massive is located anywhere near here (in other words, within the radius that a 3600 year orbit would be from the sun):
[link to arxiv.org]
Gotta think out of the box, Astro.
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Already do, otherwise I never would have come up with the idea to make this video.
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Let's just make shit up about how it all works. If something fucks with Saturn then we know it will fuck with Earth. Nothing is fucking with Saturn therefore nothing is fucking with Earth. But maybe gravity can be controlled, or maybe it is coming faster than fast and we won't know until it hits us. Maybe Niburu is coming through a wormhole and bypassing all the other planets. I like that one.

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If you've followed his posts for the past few years, you'd know. Trust me.
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Fine. So what? I enjoy debunking astronomical nonsense and I enjoy analyzing orbits, what's it to you?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Yeah, but of the exact same "imaginary" celestial body... for years now... that goes a little beyond a innocent curiosity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10513178


:watchworldlearn:
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


...And some man haven an unspoken agenda. Only time will tell which one you are, my friend ;-)
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Yeah, but of the exact same "imaginary" celestial body... for years now... that goes a little beyond a innocent curiosity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10513178


watchworldlearn
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Classic misdirection at it's finest. What is your actual reason for debunking the Nibiru topic a thousand times over? Anyone who is capable of figuring out the facts would have learned about it's confirmation or denial would have "learned" a long time ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10513178


Maybe he wants to try and spread the real truth? The same damn reason every other psychopath is on this website. Typical idiots trying to throw stones at someone who present s evidence, god forbid it's credible.
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^This! Thank you!
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Nice demonstration.

Who's to say the Anunnaki have or have not the technology that manipulates gravity.
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Hey man, what's to say they don't have the technology to re-write global memory so we're all actually 1 week old and this is all just a simulation.

Seriously, if you want to say they can just DO stuff you can make any senario. OP's point is using what we know about orbits, you can see there's no brown dwarf randomly crashing through our System.

OP, it was a nice vid. IT was interesting how relatively stable earth's position was compared to the other planets. They like to say we're at a "Perfect" distance for life to grow, I guess we're also at a good distance to stay in orbit :)
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OK no Nibiru, so what is causing all the planet changes? Must be Geo engineering because its not man made global warming. Maybe the earth is just growing and we are in a cycle?

I actually agree, if this planet was coming, we would already be in deep shit...
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It's true isn't it? The planet grows, it expands.

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You are certainly obsessed with this little brown dwarf that doesn't exist...hmmmm.
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Yeah, for a purely "hypothetical" object that is supposedly most bullshit... I don't understand why Astromut spends hundreds of hours debunking this. That can not be denied, anyone who is on GLP regularly knows about his obessesion with commenting on nearly every "nibiru" thread that arises. Chances are, if there is in fact something there that is relatively close, it would be an object that we either very little or no understanding of. Perhaps some fringe gov. agency would know about something like that, but I doubt Astromut would be privileged to that information. I am not saying Nibiru exists or doesn't, but I do believe that Astromut has a particular infatuation with it.
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Exxxxx-actly. I've heard all the protests, explanations and defenses ("I just want to educate the common idiot", "I LOVE astronomy!", "Hey, debunking is my thing - what's it to you?"), and honestly, none of them make sense to anyone with a working brain. No one has that much time on their hands - not even an amateur astronomer with a day job at Best Buy. Something fishy here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21272147


Yeah, its either some kind of unhealthy obsession, or perhaps theirs more validity to the Nemesis Theory after all. Who says this object has to come that close to the inner solar system anyways? What if its a low-mass star that maintains a relatively stable nearly orbit that happens to to move a little close to the solar system in general during the perihelion of it's orbit. It's just a theory, and obviously I don't have millions or billions of dollars to properly research it. But hey, take it or leave it.
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... plus we would have all these cool super powers and the moon would be cracked in two



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Fine. So what? I enjoy debunking astronomical nonsense and I enjoy analyzing orbits, what's it to you?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Yeah, but of the exact same "imaginary" celestial body... for years now... that goes a little beyond a innocent curiosity.
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watchworldlearn
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...And some man haven an unspoken agenda.
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Fine, prove your ad hominem is even true, otherwise all you have is a logical fallacy and an unproven one at that.
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Nice demonstration.

Who's to say the Anunnaki have or have not the technology that manipulates gravity.
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Hey man, what's to say they don't have the technology to re-write global memory so we're all actually 1 week old and this is all just a simulation.

Seriously, if you want to say they can just DO stuff you can make any senario. OP's point is using what we know about orbits, you can see there's no brown dwarf randomly crashing through our System.

OP, it was a nice vid. IT was interesting how relatively stable earth's position was compared to the other planets. They like to say we're at a "Perfect" distance for life to grow, I guess we're also at a good distance to stay in orbit :)
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When you go into topics such as these, you leave the facts of SCIENCE. Something we really only have to prove things, science/facts. Saying 'OH WUT IF IZ INTERDUHMENSHIONALZ' is fairly ignorant, and you're missing the point of OP's topic.

He is providing FACTS based on SCIENCE that we CURRENTLY have.

For all we know fucking superman lives on planet x and it's pink and we are all going to be raped by unicorns next week.
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:watchworldlearn:
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Classic misdirection at it's finest. What is your actual reason for debunking the Nibiru topic a thousand times over? Anyone who is capable of figuring out the facts would have learned about it's confirmation or denial would have "learned" a long time ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10513178


Maybe he wants to try and spread the real truth? The same damn reason every other psychopath is on this website. Typical idiots trying to throw stones at someone who present s evidence, god forbid it's credible.
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^This! Thank you!
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


If he's interesting in spreading the truth, he wouldn't constantly revive the issue by starting threads like this one, which only results in putting the idea back into forefront of people's mind. People are going to believe what they want, even in the face of indisputable evidence... that's basic human nature.
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I dont remember all these bright stars (planets) in my youth.

Hell these bright ones (planets) in the last 5 weeks early morning are just freaky.

Been around over half century and some of the stuff in the last 5-6 years is just unseen before.

Of course you will say its normal.
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agreed. NOT normal how the planets glow more than ever in our dirty skies

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