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Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...

 
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Nice demonstration.

Who's to say the Anunnaki have or have not the technology that manipulates gravity.
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Hey man, what's to say they don't have the technology to re-write global memory so we're all actually 1 week old and this is all just a simulation.

Seriously, if you want to say they can just DO stuff you can make any senario. OP's point is using what we know about orbits, you can see there's no brown dwarf randomly crashing through our System.

OP, it was a nice vid. IT was interesting how relatively stable earth's position was compared to the other planets. They like to say we're at a "Perfect" distance for life to grow, I guess we're also at a good distance to stay in orbit :)
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Yep, all just theory.

I will leave the thread with this.

How far have we come in 200 years in terms of knowing about how things work. Imagine a society/civilization that is thousands of years older than us. What would they know?

Are we the only intelligent life in the entire cosmos? Billions of galaxies with billions of starts, and billions of planets.

Mathematically speaking, chances are there are thousands of intelligent species out there.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
Nice demonstration.

Who's to say the Anunnaki have or have not the technology that manipulates gravity.
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Handwaving to magic. You may as well say they have magical powers and therefore violate the laws of physics and they also possess a klingon cloaking device. Simply put, it's woo-woo nonsense. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Cell phones are not extraordinary proof that the law of gravity is mutable.
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For everyone saying "It's suspicious you keep trying to prove this is true!" Let me tell you. As someone who just found this forum a day ago, the first instinct anyone who reads these crazy ideas is is to show you why they are crazy. There's nothing strange about it.
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You are certainly obsessed with this little brown dwarf that doesn't exist...hmmmm.
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...or rather, obsessed with proving wrong those who really are....
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Nice demonstration.

Who's to say the Anunnaki have or have not the technology that manipulates gravity.
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Hey man, what's to say they don't have the technology to re-write global memory so we're all actually 1 week old and this is all just a simulation.

Seriously, if you want to say they can just DO stuff you can make any senario. OP's point is using what we know about orbits, you can see there's no brown dwarf randomly crashing through our System.

OP, it was a nice vid. IT was interesting how relatively stable earth's position was compared to the other planets. They like to say we're at a "Perfect" distance for life to grow, I guess we're also at a good distance to stay in orbit :)
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Yep, all just theory.

I will leave the thread with this.

How far have we come in 200 years in terms of knowing about how things work. Imagine a society/civilization that is thousands of years older than us. What would they know?
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Hopefully more about how to properly educate their youth in astronomy so that they don't fall for bullshit.
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Yeah, but of the exact same "imaginary" celestial body... for years now... that goes a little beyond a innocent curiosity.
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:watchworldlearn:
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...And some man haven an unspoken agenda.
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Fine, prove your ad hominem is even true, otherwise all you have is a logical fallacy and an unproven one at that.
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It's not about publicly slandering your name Astro. It's about the fact that anyone capable of even an modicum of critical thinking should view the constant debunkery of this theory in particular as suspicious.
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OK no Nibiru, so what is causing all the planet changes? Must be Geo engineering because its not man made global warming. Maybe the earth is just growing and we are in a cycle?

I actually agree, if this planet was coming, we would already be in deep shit...
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Honest question: how do you know this? Because of the You Tube video posted by Mut? Because NASA says so? Because the known "laws of physics" dictate this outcome?

I am not trying to be flippant. I am just asking how one can be so positively, absolutely certain of what the effects of such an object would be in our solar system if in the annals of "recorded" history we have never encountered such an object.

It seems to me that the only thing that we can be certain of is that we know so very little about the universe in which we live, and so-called "learned" men of science - and I'm talking about those who are professional astronomers, not amateurs - are discovering this more and more each day. Bottom line, we don't know shit, and anyone who claims that they know with certainty what is and isn't possible in this universe is either an idiot or a shill. Period.
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For everyone saying "It's suspicious you keep trying to prove this is true!" Let me tell you. As someone who just found this forum a day ago, the first instinct anyone who reads these crazy ideas is is to show you why they are crazy. There's nothing strange about it.
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He keeps trying to prove it's false, not true.
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We do know orbital mechanics well enough to do the above analysis...
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I have a burning question that relates to the universe, cosmos and everything under the Sun:

Do Knowledge Management Specialists get paid by the post, hourly, or is it salary?


agent
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Why are you asking me? I'm just an amateur astronomer. Your question doesn't relate to the thread at all.
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Nice demonstration.

Who's to say the Anunnaki have or have not the technology that manipulates gravity.
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Hey man, what's to say they don't have the technology to re-write global memory so we're all actually 1 week old and this is all just a simulation.

Seriously, if you want to say they can just DO stuff you can make any senario. OP's point is using what we know about orbits, you can see there's no brown dwarf randomly crashing through our System.

OP, it was a nice vid. IT was interesting how relatively stable earth's position was compared to the other planets. They like to say we're at a "Perfect" distance for life to grow, I guess we're also at a good distance to stay in orbit :)
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Let's throw science out the window. Religions do that. So can we, well we are aren't we?
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You are certainly obsessed with this little brown dwarf that doesn't exist...hmmmm.
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...or rather, obsessed with proving wrong those who really are....
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Which is an even odder obsession, btw.
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OK no Nibiru, so what is causing all the planet changes? Must be Geo engineering because its not man made global warming. Maybe the earth is just growing and we are in a cycle?

I actually agree, if this planet was coming, we would already be in deep shit...
 Quoting: Mukk1234


Honest question: how do you know this? Because of the You Tube video posted by Mut? Because NASA says so? Because the known "laws of physics" dictate this outcome?

I am not trying to be flippant. I am just asking how one can be so positively, absolutely certain of what the effects of such an object would be in our solar system if in the annals of "recorded" history we have never encountered such an object.

It seems to me that the only thing that we can be certain of is that we know so very little about the universe in which we live, and so-called "learned" men of science - and I'm talking about those who are professional astronomers, not amateurs - are discovering this more and more each day. Bottom line, we don't know shit, and anyone who claims that they know with certainty what is and isn't possible in this universe is either an idiot or a shill. Period.
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Thread over.

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Ok man, I respect your effort to prove something that has become a mainstream nowadays - I do understand the fact that you may be sick of reading ppl talking about something which existence hasn't been proved so far... I appreciate that 'coz I think that we NEED IT! This is what make us think and this is what distinguishes us of all the other animals - we THINK!

But considering the fact that you're dealing with something whose mass is unknown, and so does its speed, size and composition - what is it made of, how could it affect (or not) the other planet's gravity (which you also don't know)...

My point is: you are basing you whole argument on one thing that is itself dependable of other things which you don't know .

I'm not saying that you are wrong - maybe this is the best way to study it and seek the truth (which whatever it is seems to be well-hidden). However, without those ESSENTIAL informations, it's just impossible to predict any sort of planetary behavior of any kind - and this is not just my opinion, this is physics!

We're all in the same team though - the ppl who knows nothing haha - we must stick together, think together. This is why we're all here, to share information and unfold the truth - at least this is why I AM here.

Peace ;)
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Nice demonstration.

Who's to say the Anunnaki have or have not the technology that manipulates gravity.
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Hey man, what's to say they don't have the technology to re-write global memory so we're all actually 1 week old and this is all just a simulation.

Seriously, if you want to say they can just DO stuff you can make any senario. OP's point is using what we know about orbits, you can see there's no brown dwarf randomly crashing through our System.

OP, it was a nice vid. IT was interesting how relatively stable earth's position was compared to the other planets. They like to say we're at a "Perfect" distance for life to grow, I guess we're also at a good distance to stay in orbit :)
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Yep, all just theory.

I will leave the thread with this.

How far have we come in 200 years in terms of knowing about how things work. Imagine a society/civilization that is thousands of years older than us. What would they know?
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Hopefully more about how to properly educate their youth in astronomy so that they don't fall for bullshit.
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If anyone knows bullshit, that'd be you.
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Ok man, I respect your effort to prove something that has become a mainstream nowadays - I do understand the fact that you may be sick of reading ppl talking about something which existence hasn't been proved so far... I appreciate that 'coz I think that we NEED IT! This is what make us think and this is what distinguishes us of all the other animals - we THINK!

But considering the fact that you're dealing with something whose mass is unknown, and so does its speed, size and composition - what is it made of, how could it affect (or not) the other planet's gravity (which you also don't know)...

My point is: you are basing you whole argument on one thing that is itself dependable of other things which you don't know .

I'm not saying that you are wrong - maybe this is the best way to study it and seek the truth (which whatever it is seems to be well-hidden). However, without those ESSENTIAL informations, it's just impossible to predict any sort of planetary behavior of any kind - and this is not just my opinion, this is physics!

We're all in the same team though - the ppl who knows nothing haha - we must stick together, think together. This is why we're all here, to share information and unfold the truth - at least this is why I AM here.

Peace ;)
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The solar system would not be a very stable or pleasant place if there were even a minimum mass brown dwarf passing through it every 3600 years...

Low inclination orbits of the planets? Forget about it!
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I came here just to see what is new.... I must tell you "oh over lord of all that is known"!, is fucking laughed! You are such a loser at life you must come here to prove yourself! And if I were incorrect, your call sign would still be Astromut! But no, only in GLP land are you Dr. ASTRO! FUCKING WOW!!!!!!! WHAT A LAUGHABLE TRAIT! If you were what you say you are you would not be trolling, shilling, or even present here!

Wow!
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Classic misdirection at it's finest. What is your actual reason for debunking the Nibiru topic a thousand times over? Anyone who is capable of figuring out the facts would have learned about it's confirmation or denial would have "learned" a long time ago.
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Maybe he wants to try and spread the real truth? The same damn reason every other psychopath is on this website. Typical idiots trying to throw stones at someone who present s evidence, god forbid it's credible.
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^This! Thank you!
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If he's interesting in spreading the truth, he wouldn't constantly revive the issue by starting threads like this one, which only results in putting the idea back into forefront of people's mind. People are going to believe what they want, even in the face of indisputable evidence... that's basic human nature.
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Some people will. Some. Others who are actually open minded will actually change their minds when confronted with such proof. I've seen it happen many times and it's a wonderful feeling. Videos like this can also be used by others when they encounter such claims. I was thanked for my previous video for just that reason.
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Oh Astro compared to Hitler? Well, people are so afeared of this they are ruining their lives to survive. Worth debunking.
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Presuming there was such a body, and presuming it's orbit took it through our solar system, yes the planets currently orbiting the sun would have their orbits altered. the alteration would only be relevant to earth.
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If you see a post by Dr. Astro and you don't believe him why do you read it and comment? Ignore
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
Is there any chance you are wrong?

Do you know absolutely everything about physics and how it works?

Or for that matter, does any person on this planet?


Is it feasible that our scientists could be wrong about physics and therefore wrong about most everything?

Is that even possible?


Edit: What is gravity and how/why does it function the way it does?

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While a rouge Sun may not be our demise, our own Sun could be.
In my opinion our Sun has changed visibly in the last 20 years.

Maybe something is interacting with our Sun or maybe our Sun is changing on its own.

There are certainly no experts in this field as every year something new is found or predicted with our Suns activity.

At best they still read ice layers or sediment layers to make some predictions on our Suns behavior.

Of course the do have satellites that can see the approaching side.

In my opinion something either internally or externally is effecting our Sun's behavior.


My two cents........
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Ok man, I respect your effort to prove something that has become a mainstream nowadays - I do understand the fact that you may be sick of reading ppl talking about something which existence hasn't been proved so far... I appreciate that 'coz I think that we NEED IT! This is what make us think and this is what distinguishes us of all the other animals - we THINK!

But considering the fact that you're dealing with something whose mass is unknown, and so does its speed, size and composition - what is it made of, how could it affect (or not) the other planet's gravity (which you also don't know)...

My point is: you are basing you whole argument on one thing that is itself dependable of other things which you don't know .

I'm not saying that you are wrong - maybe this is the best way to study it and seek the truth (which whatever it is seems to be well-hidden). However, without those ESSENTIAL informations, it's just impossible to predict any sort of planetary behavior of any kind - and this is not just my opinion, this is physics!

We're all in the same team though - the ppl who knows nothing haha - we must stick together, think together. This is why we're all here, to share information and unfold the truth - at least this is why I AM here.

Peace ;)
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But that's changing the question again. The OP did not post this video with the title "This is what it would look like if any possible celestial object entered the solar system" It was showing what would happen if a brown dwarf entered the orbit of our solar system, which we can see what happens. Even if it was not quite as close as the Android belt, the point is it would have massive effects on the stability of our orbits, which are very stable.

The effects of Gravity on large objects is something we can measure, and predict. We have been able to for many decades (Longer if you consider the Newton equations, but those were slightly incorrect.)
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Maybe he wants to try and spread the real truth? The same damn reason every other psychopath is on this website. Typical idiots trying to throw stones at someone who present s evidence, god forbid it's credible.
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^This! Thank you!
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If he's interesting in spreading the truth, he wouldn't constantly revive the issue by starting threads like this one, which only results in putting the idea back into forefront of people's mind. People are going to believe what they want, even in the face of indisputable evidence... that's basic human nature.
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Some people will. Some. Others who are actually open minded will actually change their minds when confronted with such proof. I've seen it happen many times and it's a wonderful feeling. Videos like this can also be used by others when they encounter such claims. I was thanked for my previous video for just that reason.
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Your missing the point Astro, which is every time you post a new thread or reply to a Nibiru thread you only further perpetuate the idea by beat the dead horse for the proverbial four-hundredth time.
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Ok man, I respect your effort to prove something that has become a mainstream nowadays - I do understand the fact that you may be sick of reading ppl talking about something which existence hasn't been proved so far... I appreciate that 'coz I think that we NEED IT! This is what make us think and this is what distinguishes us of all the other animals - we THINK!

But considering the fact that you're dealing with something whose mass is unknown, and so does its speed, size and composition - what is it made of, how could it affect (or not) the other planet's gravity (which you also don't know)...

My point is: you are basing you whole argument on one thing that is itself dependable of other things which you don't know .

I'm not saying that you are wrong - maybe this is the best way to study it and seek the truth (which whatever it is seems to be well-hidden). However, without those ESSENTIAL informations, it's just impossible to predict any sort of planetary behavior of any kind - and this is not just my opinion, this is physics!

We're all in the same team though - the ppl who knows nothing haha - we must stick together, think together. This is why we're all here, to share information and unfold the truth - at least this is why I AM here.

Peace ;)
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You are wrong. The Pioneer anomaly was 8.74±1.33×10&#8722;10 m/s2. We could predict the flight path that accurately.

To say we can't model what a brown dwarf - a much larger object would do the solar system is somewhere between insane and laughable.

Nibiru does not exist. And remember, when it comes to astrophysics: DON'T GO WHERE ITS BROWN!!!
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Is there any chance you are wrong?

Do you know absolutely everything about physics and how it works?

Or for that matter, does any person on this planet?


Is it feasible that our scientists could be wrong about physics and therefore wrong about most everything?

Is that even possible?
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Not only possible, but pretty much likely hehe

Higgs boson, for example - who could ever had imagined it before? No one. And even though it changes everything we've been thinking about everything we know.
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Re: Here's what a brown dwarf would do to the solar system on a 3600 year orbit...
OK no Nibiru, so what is causing all the planet changes? Must be Geo engineering because its not man made global warming. Maybe the earth is just growing and we are in a cycle?

I actually agree, if this planet was coming, we would already be in deep shit...
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Honest question: how do you know this? Because of the You Tube video posted by Mut? Because NASA says so? Because the known "laws of physics" dictate this outcome?

I am not trying to be flippant. I am just asking how one can be so positively, absolutely certain of what the effects of such an object would be in our solar system if in the annals of "recorded" history we have never encountered such an object.

It seems to me that the only thing that we can be certain of is that we know so very little about the universe in which we live, and so-called "learned" men of science - and I'm talking about those who are professional astronomers, not amateurs - are discovering this more and more each day. Bottom line, we don't know shit, and anyone who claims that they know with certainty what is and isn't possible in this universe is either an idiot or a shill. Period.
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Thread over.
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Just because we don't know everything does not mean we don't know anything. There are some things we DO know, including the fact that there is not some brown dwarf passing through our solar system every 3600 years. Just like we know there is not a stellar mass black hole sitting in the asteroid field. Orbital mechanics works, deal with it. There's a reason why I can run a simulation forward 32 years, and simply starting with the masses, positions, and velocities of the planets correctly predict the position of Saturn to within better than an arcsecond of resolution. The reason is simple, gravity works. You don't have to know the details of how it is working to know that it works and to know what effect it will have with a given mass.

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I forgot about the sun as a stargate, maybe Niburu is going to come right out of the sun.

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