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A true christian would never eat meat....

 
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So through your infinite wisdom while being in contact with the holy spirit you concluded that the best way to spread your message was to encourage others to believe they are not worthy of their religious designation because they have not arrived at the same personal conclusion that you have? Wow!

iamwith
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


someone has to correct the blind...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


That's funny coming from a person who sources his/her consciousness from a book. Can't do your own thinking? Can't come up with your own conclusions without reverting to 'scripture'?

potkettle
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


no, i have the experience first..and then i happen to meet someone who says check out this gospel, and while reading the gospel find myself connected to it more so than anything thus far...

i source my consciousness from the fact that a truly spiritual person would not consume dead animal.

fact.
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YOUR fact maybe.
a fact is not something w/o evidence.
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Okay, Christians follow the bible. You don't follow the bible. You have your own book apparently. Ergo you aren't a Christian. You are free to call yourself something else.

But it is like calling myself a Muslim because I follow the tenants of Tiger Beat magazine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21964569


there are certain teachings in the bible that resonate with my soul...

there are certain teachings from other gospels that resonate with my soul that have been excluded from the bible..

So to be a christian means you follow the bible? thats asinine..

walking with christ has nothing to do with if you believe in the bible or not...

or in that gospel or that gospel..

walking with christ means living in fellowship with THE holy spirit..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431

Romans 14

New King James Version (NKJV)
The Law of Liberty

14 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. 3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him.
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i can quote scripture too from other gospels stating the opposite..

thats why its called spiritual discernment

why should we blindly follow others words?

discern from within.

and once again, a TRUE CHRISTIAN, would NEVER eat meat.

period.

get to know god.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


go ahead quote scripture that states the exact opposite???

Jesus Christ ate meat Himself, are you saying you dont believe He was a True Christian???
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First of all, animals aren't our "brothers and sisters"

You belong to PETA right?
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quoted from the essene gospel of the holy 12

And some of the people said, This man careth for all creatures, are they his brothers and sisters that he should love them ? And he said unto them, Verily these are your fellow creatures of the great Household of God, yea, they are your brethren and sisters, having the same breath of life in the Eternal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


ok if noone rlse will ask i will:
WTF book is this from?
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there are certain teachings in the bible that resonate with my soul...

there are certain teachings from other gospels that resonate with my soul that have been excluded from the bible..

So to be a christian means you follow the bible? thats asinine..

walking with christ has nothing to do with if you believe in the bible or not...

or in that gospel or that gospel..

walking with christ means living in fellowship with THE holy spirit..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431

Romans 14

New King James Version (NKJV)
The Law of Liberty

14 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. 3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21087816


i can quote scripture too from other gospels stating the opposite..

thats why its called spiritual discernment

why should we blindly follow others words?

discern from within.

and once again, a TRUE CHRISTIAN, would NEVER eat meat.

period.

get to know god.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


go ahead quote scripture that states the exact opposite???

Jesus Christ ate meat Himself, are you saying you dont believe He was a True Christian???
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


the man you call jesus christ did not eat meat...

that is a lie.
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First of all, animals aren't our "brothers and sisters"

You belong to PETA right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11765896


quoted from the essene gospel of the holy 12

And some of the people said, This man careth for all creatures, are they his brothers and sisters that he should love them ? And he said unto them, Verily these are your fellow creatures of the great Household of God, yea, they are your brethren and sisters, having the same breath of life in the Eternal.
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ok if noone rlse will ask i will:
WTF book is this from?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820

[link to reluctant-messenger.com]

once again, its just a book.. but i found these words to resonate a lot more with my soul than the gospels in the nt.

the early essene communities were all prosecuted by the early church.. the essenes were massacred because of their beliefs and the teachings they learned from the man you call jesus.
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besifes that:
let me ask you a question OP:
are not veggies/plants living, breathing things as well?
do they not have blood (chlorophil) if you holf up a piece of lettuce does it not have veins?
dont kids science projects prove that if you are nice to a plant it grows better? so it may be possable for a plant to have feelings?
do they not have feet (roots) do they not have arms (branches)?
the saddest part is unlike an animal, you cant hear them scream out in agony when you pluck them or uproof them or cut into them.
do you enjoy eating their offspring?

LOL! ya it crazy as hell when you look at it like that hu?

eating an apple is no different than eating an egg.
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First of all, animals aren't our "brothers and sisters"

You belong to PETA right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11765896


quoted from the essene gospel of the holy 12

And some of the people said, This man careth for all creatures, are they his brothers and sisters that he should love them ? And he said unto them, Verily these are your fellow creatures of the great Household of God, yea, they are your brethren and sisters, having the same breath of life in the Eternal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


ok if noone rlse will ask i will:
WTF book is this from?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820

[link to reluctant-messenger.com]

once again, its just a book.. but i found these words to resonate a lot more with my soul than the gospels in the nt.

the early essene communities were all prosecuted by the early church.. the essenes were massacred because of their beliefs and the teachings they learned from the man you call jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


really?
did you see this "gospel" thats supposedly hidden in a Buddist Tibetan monestary (of all places)?
have you heard of anyone else that has?that you know n trust personally?
or do you blindly follow some dude who claims he found some shit?
hell, i could start a blog and say Christ said Himself it was ok to mastebate in public, and should be done often. It definitly would not make it true!
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08/15/2012 11:16 PM
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tbh, i stopped reading when he started talking about how the Nicean bible was corrupted by RCC and Constantine, which has not a darn thing to do with the KJV bible.
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why do lions eat deer?
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First of all, animals aren't our "brothers and sisters"

You belong to PETA right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11765896


quoted from the essene gospel of the holy 12

And some of the people said, This man careth for all creatures, are they his brothers and sisters that he should love them ? And he said unto them, Verily these are your fellow creatures of the great Household of God, yea, they are your brethren and sisters, having the same breath of life in the Eternal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


So god did not create plants??, Was that satan??

If god made all creatures (plants and Animals) what can we eat without pissing the little bitch off??
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quoted from the essene gospel of the holy 12

And some of the people said, This man careth for all creatures, are they his brothers and sisters that he should love them ? And he said unto them, Verily these are your fellow creatures of the great Household of God, yea, they are your brethren and sisters, having the same breath of life in the Eternal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


ok if noone rlse will ask i will:
WTF book is this from?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820

[link to reluctant-messenger.com]

once again, its just a book.. but i found these words to resonate a lot more with my soul than the gospels in the nt.

the early essene communities were all prosecuted by the early church.. the essenes were massacred because of their beliefs and the teachings they learned from the man you call jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


really?
did you see this "gospel" thats supposedly hidden in a Buddist Tibetan monestary (of all places)?
have you heard of anyone else that has?that you know n trust personally?
or do you blindly follow some dude who claims he found some shit?
hell, i could start a blog and say Christ said Himself it was ok to mastebate in public, and should be done often. It definitly would not make it true!
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


but the gospels in the nt are true? makes sense to me...

study the essenes... they were an early sect of Christianity, and they did exist.
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The jewish people and the Jewish family Jesus grew up in ate all meats except pork which was and is forbidden in that faith.

No doubt Jesus himself ate Lamb's meat which was the most common of that era and place as well as fish and fowl. Not many cows in the region but he might also have eaten camel meat and perhaps even some small wild animals of the region.

So eating meat is not un-christian at all.
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ok if noone rlse will ask i will:
WTF book is this from?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820

[link to reluctant-messenger.com]

once again, its just a book.. but i found these words to resonate a lot more with my soul than the gospels in the nt.

the early essene communities were all prosecuted by the early church.. the essenes were massacred because of their beliefs and the teachings they learned from the man you call jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


really?
did you see this "gospel" thats supposedly hidden in a Buddist Tibetan monestary (of all places)?
have you heard of anyone else that has?that you know n trust personally?
or do you blindly follow some dude who claims he found some shit?
hell, i could start a blog and say Christ said Himself it was ok to mastebate in public, and should be done often. It definitly would not make it true!
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


but the gospels in the nt are true? makes sense to me...

study the essenes... they were an early sect of Christianity, and they did exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


yes the gospels in the NT are true.
hell you can Wiki most of them, and even the oldest papyrus and the dead sea scrolls, yet with your guy its "hidden" so that, what,? nobody but him can see, or translate it for themselfs?
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08/15/2012 11:41 PM
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OK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THE BIBLE.

"THOU SHALT NOT KILL"


enough said.
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[link to reluctant-messenger.com]

once again, its just a book.. but i found these words to resonate a lot more with my soul than the gospels in the nt.

the early essene communities were all prosecuted by the early church.. the essenes were massacred because of their beliefs and the teachings they learned from the man you call jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


really?
did you see this "gospel" thats supposedly hidden in a Buddist Tibetan monestary (of all places)?
have you heard of anyone else that has?that you know n trust personally?
or do you blindly follow some dude who claims he found some shit?
hell, i could start a blog and say Christ said Himself it was ok to mastebate in public, and should be done often. It definitly would not make it true!
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


but the gospels in the nt are true? makes sense to me...

study the essenes... they were an early sect of Christianity, and they did exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


yes the gospels in the NT are true.
hell you can Wiki most of them, and even the oldest papyrus and the dead sea scrolls, yet with your guy its "hidden" so that, what,? nobody but him can see, or translate it for themselfs?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


once again, study the essenes, and early sect of Christianity..
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"THOU SHALT NOT KILL"
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OK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THE BIBLE.

"THOU SHALT NOT KILL"


enough said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


it was talking about man.

for example, you kill the plants you eat.
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and OP, have you read the Wiki on Essenes? they were like a Jewish cult, that pritty much denied the whole bible, even writtings of Moses. but they kept great record of Angles lol.
oh n btw, that not eating of meat is not a new thing within that sect of Jewish people, they've been doing that since 2bc, it was even recorded by Josephus.
do some research on these people, find out as much as you can.
the Modwrn Esseness wernt here until the 19-20 century, its not the same group passed from generation to generation, it was just started again.

like i said, do your homework on these people before following them fully, then make your decition.

tbh, being a vegan/vegitarian is by all means ok and a great thing for those that wish to do it, my step-mother and sister are vegan (thats why the quick rebuttles lol), just dont try n say its a biblical thing, because, i myself do my homework.

God Bless You!
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OK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THE BIBLE.

"THOU SHALT NOT KILL"


enough said.
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Except plants????????????
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OK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THE BIBLE.

"THOU SHALT NOT KILL"


enough said.
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Except plants????????????
 Quoting: Doommincus Maximus


LOL, thats what i said 2 above your post, i also went into detail about how plants are alive a little futther up.
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if you a so-called meat and dairy eating christian get ready for the SHOCK of your life when you die
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if you a so-called meat and dairy eating christian get ready for the SHOCK of your life when you die
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if you a so-called meat and dairy eating christian get ready for the SHOCK of your life when you die
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The look on your face when you find out that you wound up in the same 'place' as meat-eaters will be PRICELESS.

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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OK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THE BIBLE.

"THOU SHALT NOT KILL"


enough said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


Except trees and plants and vegetation, right?

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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OK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THE BIBLE.

"THOU SHALT NOT KILL"


enough said.
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Except trees and plants and vegetation, right?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Yep.

Gen `1:29
Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
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no, i have the experience first..and then i happen to meet someone who says check out this gospel, and while reading the gospel find myself connected to it more so than anything thus far...

i source my consciousness from the fact that a truly spiritual person would not consume dead animal.

fact.
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That's absurd. You decided that, it's nothing to do with fact at all.

I have walked with God while dead, and returned to my dead body. The FACT is that animals come here to help and love humans. And some of them do that by being food for us. Some are companions, some workers.

By your absurd reckoning, a truly spiritual person wouldn't have ridden on a donkey. The donkey never gave permission. Or horse.

And no animal should ever be a pet, because animals are only here to live in the wild and kill each other or die to be food for each other.

Never for humans...

Because animals aren't spiritual. If they were, none of them would eat other animals. But since they aren't spiritual, then what good are they? They're not spirituals, they're not here to be companions, food, or workers...

So we should probably kill them all off. Because we don't want them eating each other. So unspiritual!
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if you a so-called meat and dairy eating christian get ready for the SHOCK of your life when you die
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The look on your face when you find out that you wound up in the same 'place' as meat-eaters will be PRICELESS.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


LOL, imagine their fury when they find out that God's not going to burn and torture their enemies forever. Oh, to be a fly on the wall when they confront God about its total betrayal in not torturing anyone.

The horror they will experience! Cuckolded!

It's almost funny, until you realize that it's true and they really WILL be livid to find out that no one's going to be burned, tortured, or murdered by God.

Then it just leaves you feeling kind of squeamish and disgusted.
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Where did Jesus call animals our "brothers and sisters"? Furthermore, people ate meat in the bible, Jesus included.

Or after his resurrection did he fill the nets of his disciples with tofu?
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quoted from the essene gospel of the holy 12

And some of the people said, This man careth for all creatures, are they his brothers and sisters that he should love them ? And he said unto them, Verily these are your fellow creatures of the great Household of God, yea, they are your brethren and sisters, having the same breath of life in the Eternal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431

That is a False gospel you are quoting.
You might as well be quoting Jack the Ripper or some mass murderer for all its worth.
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Where did Jesus call animals our "brothers and sisters"? Furthermore, people ate meat in the bible, Jesus included.

Or after his resurrection did he fill the nets of his disciples with tofu?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21964569

quoted from the essene gospel of the holy 12

And some of the people said, This man careth for all creatures, are they his brothers and sisters that he should love them ? And he said unto them, Verily these are your fellow creatures of the great Household of God, yea, they are your brethren and sisters, having the same breath of life in the Eternal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431

That is a False gospel you are quoting.
You might as well be quoting Jack the Ripper or some mass murderer for all its worth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22078336


[sarcasm]Yea because this gospel supports messages of oppression and murdering innocent people (or anyone for that matter).[/sarcasm]
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if you a so-called meat and dairy eating christian get ready for the SHOCK of your life when you die
 Quoting: dominickvirgilio@yahoo.com 6401468


The look on your face when you find out that you wound up in the same 'place' as meat-eaters will be PRICELESS.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


LOL, imagine their fury when they find out that God's not going to burn and torture their enemies forever. Oh, to be a fly on the wall when they confront God about its total betrayal in not torturing anyone.

The horror they will experience! Cuckolded!

It's almost funny, until you realize that it's true and they really WILL be livid to find out that no one's going to be burned, tortured, or murdered by God.

Then it just leaves you feeling kind of squeamish and disgusted.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Imagine the fury when those who denied Hell, find out it does exist and it is their punishment.

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