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A true christian would never eat meat....

 
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YOURE AN IDIOT EATING MEAT WAS GRANTED TO MANKIND WHEN THEY GOT THROWN OUT OF THE GARDEN OF EDEN AND HAS EXISTED THROUGHOUT THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS. EVEN CHRIST FED THOUSANDS MEAT.

YOU MUST BE SOME IDIOT MUSLIM THAT WANTS TO PRESS YOUR VEGETARIAN BELIEFS ON OTHERS.
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if you a so-called meat and dairy eating christian get ready for the SHOCK of your life when you die
 Quoting: dominickvirgilio@yahoo.com 6401468


The look on your face when you find out that you wound up in the same 'place' as meat-eaters will be PRICELESS.
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LOL, imagine their fury when they find out that God's not going to burn and torture their enemies forever. Oh, to be a fly on the wall when they confront God about its total betrayal in not torturing anyone.

The horror they will experience! Cuckolded!

It's almost funny, until you realize that it's true and they really WILL be livid to find out that no one's going to be burned, tortured, or murdered by God.

Then it just leaves you feeling kind of squeamish and disgusted.
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Sorry but justice is justice. Eternity? Maybe maybe not. BUT FOR SURE THERE IS A REWARD AND PUNISHMENT AFTER THIS LIFE DEPENDANT ON WHAT YOU DID IN THIS LIFE. THAT IS JUSTICE *kanye shrug*
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[link to www.all-creatures.org]

no true christian would eat factory farmed meat. eating free range, humanely raised and slaughtered organic or sustainably hunted meat is fine if one really wants to eat meat.

ps. i am not a christian, but damn if i dont live a better "christian" life than most of the social posers.
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if you a so-called meat and dairy eating christian get ready for the SHOCK of your life when you die
 Quoting: dominickvirgilio@yahoo.com 6401468


The look on your face when you find out that you wound up in the same 'place' as meat-eaters will be PRICELESS.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


LOL, imagine their fury when they find out that God's not going to burn and torture their enemies forever. Oh, to be a fly on the wall when they confront God about its total betrayal in not torturing anyone.

The horror they will experience! Cuckolded!

It's almost funny, until you realize that it's true and they really WILL be livid to find out that no one's going to be burned, tortured, or murdered by God.

Then it just leaves you feeling kind of squeamish and disgusted.
 Quoting: Sandi_T


tbh, ive seen more (scriptural) evidence of hell than not, although i have seen somes very compelling precievements of there not being a hell (as most would describe hell anyway), and ive also seen various decriptions of hell, and even descriptions thst hell isnt for eternaty.

all in all i really dont freaken know so in my opinion for myself, i imagine the worst, however, i really truely hope you are right about this.

that being said, can you prove your point of a non-hell?
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OK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THE BIBLE.

"THOU SHALT NOT KILL"


enough said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


Except trees and plants and vegetation, right?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Yep.

Gen `1:29
Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21990558


So God speaks human words now huh? Why would an all-knowing / all-powerful being need to use such primitive communication techniques? Didn't think to question that one did you....

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tbh, ive seen more (scriptural) evidence of hell than not, although i have seen somes very compelling precievements of there not being a hell (as most would describe hell anyway), and ive also seen various decriptions of hell, and even descriptions thst hell isnt for eternaty.

all in all i really dont freaken know so in my opinion for myself, i imagine the worst, however, i really truely hope you are right about this.

that being said, can you prove your point of a non-hell?
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Prove it by what?

You do know that I don't believe your "scriptures" are proof of anything [besides the folly of mankind, perhaps], right?

So before I can prove it to you, I'd need to know your criterion for proof. Which I'm pretty sure that I already do... and I'm not sure I have much interest in pointing out all the places that "hell" was intentionally mis-translated in the bible.
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if you a so-called meat and dairy eating christian get ready for the SHOCK of your life when you die
 Quoting: dominickvirgilio@yahoo.com 6401468


The look on your face when you find out that you wound up in the same 'place' as meat-eaters will be PRICELESS.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


LOL, imagine their fury when they find out that God's not going to burn and torture their enemies forever. Oh, to be a fly on the wall when they confront God about its total betrayal in not torturing anyone.

The horror they will experience! Cuckolded!

It's almost funny, until you realize that it's true and they really WILL be livid to find out that no one's going to be burned, tortured, or murdered by God.

Then it just leaves you feeling kind of squeamish and disgusted.
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Imagine the fury when those who denied Hell, find out it does exist and it is their punishment.
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can imagine all you want, still won't make it true.
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Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Colossians 2:16
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

"...the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin." I John 1:7

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23

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OK FOR THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THE BIBLE.

"THOU SHALT NOT KILL"


enough said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


Except trees and plants and vegetation, right?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Yep.

Gen `1:29
Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21990558


So God speaks human words now huh? Why would an all-knowing / all-powerful being need to use such primitive communication techniques? Didn't think to question that one did you....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


cuz we are "primative" and would lack his comunication skills, therefor He would need to comunicate to us in a way that would present that not only was it Him, but for us to undrrstand it was Him, and to understand the afhority behind the words.
so yes i think He spoke.
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Sorry but justice is justice. Eternity? Maybe maybe not. BUT FOR SURE THERE IS A REWARD AND PUNISHMENT AFTER THIS LIFE DEPENDANT ON WHAT YOU DID IN THIS LIFE. THAT IS JUSTICE *kanye shrug*
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No, that wouldn't be justice at all. In fact, that would be injustice.

It's the human mind that thinks that it's necessary for god to commit savagery against anyone that you deem requires "justice".

That you think it's "justice" for people who have already had to divorce themselves from Love while here should be further savaged, shows that you truly don't understand at all, the reality in which we live.
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Except trees and plants and vegetation, right?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Yep.

Gen `1:29
Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21990558


So God speaks human words now huh? Why would an all-knowing / all-powerful being need to use such primitive communication techniques? Didn't think to question that one did you....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


cuz we are "primative" and would lack his comunication skills, therefor He would need to comunicate to us in a way that would present that not only was it Him, but for us to undrrstand it was Him, and to understand the afhority behind the words.
so yes i think He spoke.
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


It's called telepathy. To speak audible words, one would need to be in physical form.

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Yep.

Gen `1:29
Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21990558


So God speaks human words now huh? Why would an all-knowing / all-powerful being need to use such primitive communication techniques? Didn't think to question that one did you....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


cuz we are "primative" and would lack his comunication skills, therefor He would need to comunicate to us in a way that would present that not only was it Him, but for us to undrrstand it was Him, and to understand the afhority behind the words.
so yes i think He spoke.
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


It's called telepathy. To speak audible words, one would need to be in physical form.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


what you dont think Satan can use telepathy?
hell, even (some) FreeMasons claim they know telepathy.
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So God speaks human words now huh? Why would an all-knowing / all-powerful being need to use such primitive communication techniques? Didn't think to question that one did you....
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cuz we are "primative" and would lack his comunication skills, therefor He would need to comunicate to us in a way that would present that not only was it Him, but for us to undrrstand it was Him, and to understand the afhority behind the words.
so yes i think He spoke.
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


It's called telepathy. To speak audible words, one would need to be in physical form.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


what you dont think Satan can use telepathy?
hell, even (some) FreeMasons claim they know telepathy.
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


Satan was used as a metaphor, not to be interpreted literally! The literal interpretation was used by those in power who wanted to control and manipulate the masses through fear. Seems to have worked nicely huh?

If you don't believe me, I challenge you to present verifiable evidence of his existence. You won't be able to, not now, or ever. He only exists in the imagination of those who choose to blindly accept what was written in religious books by mortal men.

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tbh, ive seen more (scriptural) evidence of hell than not, although i have seen somes very compelling precievements of there not being a hell (as most would describe hell anyway), and ive also seen various decriptions of hell, and even descriptions thst hell isnt for eternaty.

all in all i really dont freaken know so in my opinion for myself, i imagine the worst, however, i really truely hope you are right about this.

that being said, can you prove your point of a non-hell?
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Prove it by what?

You do know that I don't believe your "scriptures" are proof of anything [besides the folly of mankind, perhaps], right?

So before I can prove it to you, I'd need to know your criterion for proof. Which I'm pretty sure that I already do... and I'm not sure I have much interest in pointing out all the places that "hell" was intentionally mis-translated in the bible.
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calm down girly, i wasnt asken or wanting a debate (this time lol)
i was asking your opinion really, with your evidence of your opinion and why you believe the way about hell (or the lack thereof) that you do.

can you point out at least a few times it says hell, and explain how or give YOUR evidence on why you think it was intentionally mistranslated?
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walk with christ? or so you say...

compassion is key to walking in hand with the holy spirit.

Know the real holy spirit? - you would never eat meat.

how is eating dead animals showing compassion to our animal brothers and sisters? the same compassion the man called jesus taught...


and for those who pull our that bible scripture it isn't what goes in it is what comes out... that passage refers to much deeper things than FOOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


Jesus ate fish, was He not compassionate too?

I hear what you're saying OP, and I agree to an extent. I used to be a vegetarian myself, I was focused on it, like a mission. Then He spoke to me and said "Focus on me instead".

So, I did. I focus now on telling people about salvation knowing that their souls are at stake.

I know that in the new earth, when He comes and cleans house, there will be no more animals killed and hurt again, ever. He will solve that problem once and for all, He will solve all of the problems of the world.

Until then, you're never going to stop the world from killing animals, it's just not going to happen. So, focus on Him and saving as many souls as you can until He returns.

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cuz we are "primative" and would lack his comunication skills, therefor He would need to comunicate to us in a way that would present that not only was it Him, but for us to undrrstand it was Him, and to understand the afhority behind the words.
so yes i think He spoke.
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


It's called telepathy. To speak audible words, one would need to be in physical form.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


what you dont think Satan can use telepathy?
hell, even (some) FreeMasons claim they know telepathy.
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


Satan was used as a metaphor, not to be interpreted literally! The literal interpretation was used by those in power who wanted to control and manipulate the masses through fear. Seems to have worked nicely huh?

If you don't believe me, I challenge you to present verifiable evidence of his existence. You won't be able to, not now, or ever. He only exists in the imagination of those who choose to blindly accept what was written in religious books by mortal men.
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you're probably gonna laugh, but:
the exorcism of Emily Rose (not the movie btw, but the move "almost" follows documented events)
Satan himself aside, there are many documented (non-televagalist lol) excorsisams, pictures of demons etc, ya some to maybe most are made up bs, but a few are real. if theres a hiarchy in heaven, wouldnt you think theres one in hell?
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If eating meat is wrong then why did god give us teeth designed to eat meat? Ever heard of k-9 teeth?
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not my god..

I'm just in this vessel
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here we come to the juicy bit: whence is your vessel?
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All we need is JESUS juice to survive.
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If eating meat is wrong then why did god give us teeth designed to eat meat? Ever heard of k-9 teeth?
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not my god..

I'm just in this vessel
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here we come to the juicy bit: whence is your vessel?
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whence???
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Romans 14

New King James Version (NKJV)
The Law of Liberty

14 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. 3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him.
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i can quote scripture too from other gospels stating the opposite..

thats why its called spiritual discernment

why should we blindly follow others words?

discern from within.

and once again, a TRUE CHRISTIAN, would NEVER eat meat.

period.

get to know god.
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go ahead quote scripture that states the exact opposite???

Jesus Christ ate meat Himself, are you saying you dont believe He was a True Christian???
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the man you call jesus christ did not eat meat...

that is a lie.
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[33] For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, 'He has a demon.' [34] The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners." ' [35] But wisdom is proved right by all her children."
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If eating meat is wrong then why did god give us teeth designed to eat meat? Ever heard of k-9 teeth?
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not my god..

I'm just in this vessel
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here we come to the juicy bit: whence is your vessel?
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whence???
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I dont know what you base your doctrine on but...."it aint Bible"book
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So God speaks human words now huh? Why would an all-knowing / all-powerful being need to use such primitive communication techniques? Didn't think to question that one did you....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


cuz we are "primative" and would lack his comunication skills, therefor He would need to comunicate to us in a way that would present that not only was it Him, but for us to undrrstand it was Him, and to understand the afhority behind the words.
so yes i think He spoke.
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


It's called telepathy. To speak audible words, one would need to be in physical form.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


what you dont think Satan can use telepathy?
hell, even (some) FreeMasons claim they know telepathy.
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


So, was Simon Peter a Satan or the Satan?
Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

Do you get it now?!
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calm down girly, i wasnt asken or wanting a debate (this time lol)
i was asking your opinion really, with your evidence of your opinion and why you believe the way about hell (or the lack thereof) that you do.

can you point out at least a few times it says hell, and explain how or give YOUR evidence on why you think it was intentionally mistranslated?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


Well, the first 'proof' that worked for me was walking with God while I was dead. I'm sure you've seen enough of my posts now to know that I had multiple NDEs as a child? Better stated as "death experiences", not near death experiences.

During those, I walked with God and was allowed to ask all sorts of questions. One of them was why God made hell. The literal answer is that God didn't make hell, people made it up and they see it in visions if they are indoctrinated to do so.

But of course, I don't present that to YOU as proof, because you accept only "scriptures" and the vast majority of christians don't believe God speaks to anyone anymore, except to give visions of hell. Ironic, really.


Now, as far as bible references?

In the original languages, none of the words translated mean "hell".

The words thus translated are:

Sheol: The Pit [a pit to burn garbage]
Hades: Greek for The Pit [direct translation of Sheol]
Tartarus: A spiritual darkness where angels are chained
Gahenna: The city dump

It would sure seem quite different if they were honest and said that they'd be off to the dump, eh?

Believe my religion, or you're off to the dump! Or even, Believe my religion, or you're off to the grave!

In point of fact, the REAL meaning of Gahenna? The Valley of the Son of Hinnom.

You're basically being consigned to Old Farmer McGraw's yard. You know the one... the old geezer with 60 broken down old beaters that he's gonna restore someday, a bunch of old parts and such, and a penchant for burning his garbage every couple of days rather than 'waste the time' taking it to the city dump.

Additionally, the words translated "eternal" or "forever" are actually words for Eon, or Age.

But I assume that you already know this.

One of the favorites christians bring up is the FABLE about the guy in hell [gahenna] who begs for a drink of water... but why is it that every other FABLE that jesus tells, we must treat as a fable... but this one magically becomes a literal story of a literal event?
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calm down girly, i wasnt asken or wanting a debate (this time lol)
i was asking your opinion really, with your evidence of your opinion and why you believe the way about hell (or the lack thereof) that you do.

can you point out at least a few times it says hell, and explain how or give YOUR evidence on why you think it was intentionally mistranslated?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


Well, the first 'proof' that worked for me was walking with God while I was dead. I'm sure you've seen enough of my posts now to know that I had multiple NDEs as a child? Better stated as "death experiences", not near death experiences.

During those, I walked with God and was allowed to ask all sorts of questions. One of them was why God made hell. The literal answer is that God didn't make hell, people made it up and they see it in visions if they are indoctrinated to do so.

But of course, I don't present that to YOU as proof, because you accept only "scriptures" and the vast majority of christians don't believe God speaks to anyone anymore, except to give visions of hell. Ironic, really.


Now, as far as bible references?

In the original languages, none of the words translated mean "hell".

The words thus translated are:

Sheol: The Pit [a pit to burn garbage]
Hades: Greek for The Pit [direct translation of Sheol]
Tartarus: A spiritual darkness where angels are chained
Gahenna: The city dump

It would sure seem quite different if they were honest and said that they'd be off to the dump, eh?

Believe my religion, or you're off to the dump! Or even, Believe my religion, or you're off to the grave!

In point of fact, the REAL meaning of Gahenna? The Valley of the Son of Hinnom.

You're basically being consigned to Old Farmer McGraw's yard. You know the one... the old geezer with 60 broken down old beaters that he's gonna restore someday, a bunch of old parts and such, and a penchant for burning his garbage every couple of days rather than 'waste the time' taking it to the city dump.

Additionally, the words translated "eternal" or "forever" are actually words for Eon, or Age.

But I assume that you already know this.

One of the favorites christians bring up is the FABLE about the guy in hell [gahenna] who begs for a drink of water... but why is it that every other FABLE that jesus tells, we must treat as a fable... but this one magically becomes a literal story of a literal event?
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interesting theory or if inderd you did walk with God in your NDE, fact, but yes i dont just take someones word for it on GLP, i like to ask different people as well as scripture, as well as outside bible scripture, or even a blog on the web when idk about something, then i try and form my thought/belief.
idk where everyone gets that "eternal" translates to Eon either, Strongs defines it translated from: qedem, root word: qadem, athough i must admit it doesnt define hell (you're correct by Strongs "sheol") as a burning hell fire either, but simply a pit.

there is also a passage, though for the life of me i cant remember the verse, where Christ points to some weeds being burned and describes (although i dont think He used the word "hell") it like that, ill try n find that passage if you want.(?)

but like i said, im not to sure what "hell" is, its one thing im not too sure of. although hell does make sence to me, what doesnt would be, why for eternity?

again tbh, i hope you're right on this one, but as for me, my research on it goes on lol.
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It's called telepathy. To speak audible words, one would need to be in physical form.
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what you dont think Satan can use telepathy?
hell, even (some) FreeMasons claim they know telepathy.
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Satan was used as a metaphor, not to be interpreted literally! The literal interpretation was used by those in power who wanted to control and manipulate the masses through fear. Seems to have worked nicely huh?

If you don't believe me, I challenge you to present verifiable evidence of his existence. You won't be able to, not now, or ever. He only exists in the imagination of those who choose to blindly accept what was written in religious books by mortal men.
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you're probably gonna laugh, but:
the exorcism of Emily Rose (not the movie btw, but the move "almost" follows documented events)
Satan himself aside, there are many documented (non-televagalist lol) excorsisams, pictures of demons etc, ya some to maybe most are made up bs, but a few are real. if theres a hiarchy in heaven, wouldnt you think theres one in hell?
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I'm not going to laugh because I keep an open mind to those 'experiences', but again, those do not prove the existence of the figure known as Satan that is allegedly supposed to tempt and torment you... I believe in non-physical entities, but I'm looking for specific proof of the one who is referred to as Satan, and would like to know how one goes about specifically identifying and recognizing him.... A photo of a ghostly looking non-physical entity does not validate his existence if one does not know what Satan looks like and has no criteria for identifying him....

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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but like i said, im not to sure what "hell" is, its one thing im not too sure of. although hell does make sence to me, what doesnt would be, why for eternity?

again tbh, i hope you're right on this one, but as for me, my research on it goes on lol.
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Do you believe in the existence of various/multiple dimensions?

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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Fuck off OP. I cant wait till some DOOM occurs so it can be a free for all, and ill finally be able to try some human meat.

I might just go to mortuary and give it a try now.
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what you dont think Satan can use telepathy?
hell, even (some) FreeMasons claim they know telepathy.
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


Satan was used as a metaphor, not to be interpreted literally! The literal interpretation was used by those in power who wanted to control and manipulate the masses through fear. Seems to have worked nicely huh?

If you don't believe me, I challenge you to present verifiable evidence of his existence. You won't be able to, not now, or ever. He only exists in the imagination of those who choose to blindly accept what was written in religious books by mortal men.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


you're probably gonna laugh, but:
the exorcism of Emily Rose (not the movie btw, but the move "almost" follows documented events)
Satan himself aside, there are many documented (non-televagalist lol) excorsisams, pictures of demons etc, ya some to maybe most are made up bs, but a few are real. if theres a hiarchy in heaven, wouldnt you think theres one in hell?
 Quoting: Krime 5469820


I'm not going to laugh because I keep an open mind to those 'experiences', but again, those do not prove the existence of the figure known as Satan that is allegedly supposed to tempt and torment you... I believe in non-physical entities, but I'm looking for specific proof of the one who is referred to as Satan, and would like to know how one goes about specifically identifying and recognizing him.... A photo of a ghostly looking non-physical entity does not validate his existence if one does not know what Satan looks like and has no criteria for identifying him....
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if you read the documents of Emily Rose, the demon that possesed her, clamed to be Satan, in like 7 different languages, a few "lost" languages at that. i believe this actual account was actually voice recorded.

thats the only one i know of off the top of my head, but ill see if i cant google you up something lol.
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but like i said, im not to sure what "hell" is, its one thing im not too sure of. although hell does make sence to me, what doesnt would be, why for eternity?

again tbh, i hope you're right on this one, but as for me, my research on it goes on lol.
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Do you believe in the existence of various/multiple dimensions?
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anyone that claims to believe in heaven/hell must also admit there nust be at least one other dimention other than this one, because its obvious, heaven/hell is not in this one or it would be visable, ergo, no non-believers.

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