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A true christian would never eat meat....

 
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I think that this is the stupidest thread that I have ever read on GLP - and that is saying a lot!
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What you are currently not able to see is how utterly degraded the human consciousness has to become in order to kill an animal and eat it.

We’re just born into this world and we think it’s normal. It’s not.

There is no right and wrong but there is realisation.
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Meanwhile, humans are getting shot to pieces in war..
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Re: A true christian would never eat meat....
I think that this is the stupidest thread that I have ever read on GLP - and that is saying a lot!
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What you are currently not able to see is how utterly degraded the human consciousness has to become in order to kill an animal and eat it.

We’re just born into this world and we think it’s normal. It’s not.

There is no right and wrong but there is realisation.
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Meanwhile, humans are getting shot to pieces in war..
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Exactly.
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I think that this is the stupidest thread that I have ever read on GLP - and that is saying a lot!
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What you are currently not able to see is how utterly degraded the human consciousness has to become in order to kill an animal and eat it.

We’re just born into this world and we think it’s normal. It’s not.

There is no right and wrong but there is realisation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44177330


Meanwhile, humans are getting shot to pieces in war..
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Exactly.
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Meaning that there is a link.
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Re: A true christian would never eat meat....
walk with christ? or so you say...

compassion is key to walking in hand with the holy spirit.

Know the real holy spirit? - you would never eat meat.

how is eating dead animals showing compassion to our animal brothers and sisters? the same compassion the man called jesus taught...


and for those who pull our that bible scripture it isn't what goes in it is what comes out... that passage refers to much deeper things than FOOD.
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On two occasions Christ fed multitudes fish. You fail, OP.
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What you are currently not able to see is how utterly degraded the human consciousness has to become in order to kill an animal and eat it.

We’re just born into this world and we think it’s normal. It’s not.

There is no right and wrong but there is realisation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44177330


Meanwhile, humans are getting shot to pieces in war..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45239829


Exactly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44177330


Meaning that there is a link.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44177330


Someone whose state of consciousness allows him to kill another person would think nothing of killing an animal.

Someone whose state of consciousness could not even comprehend the killing of an animal would never even dream of harming another person, even through words.
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Meanwhile, humans are getting shot to pieces in war..
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Exactly.
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Meaning that there is a link.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44177330


Someone whose state of consciousness allows him to kill another person would think nothing of killing an animal.

Someone whose state of consciousness could not even comprehend the killing of an animal would never even dream of harming another person, even through words.
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Yeah.bsflag
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Actually, if you were a christian, you would read that your bible says that although at one time it wasn't done, it is allowed now. Perhaps actually read your book?
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Actually, if you were a christian, you would read that your bible says that although at one time it wasn't done, it is allowed now. Perhaps actually read your book?
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Interesting. Maybe you could explain why at one time your religion condemned the eating of meat but now it is allowed.
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Re: A true christian would never eat meat....
walk with christ? or so you say...

compassion is key to walking in hand with the holy spirit.

Know the real holy spirit? - you would never eat meat.

how is eating dead animals showing compassion to our animal brothers and sisters? the same compassion the man called jesus taught...


and for those who pull our that bible scripture it isn't what goes in it is what comes out... that passage refers to much deeper things than FOOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


On two occasions Christ fed multitudes fish. You fail, OP.
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It was Tofush. Everyone knows that.
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Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."
Acts 10:13


Romans 14:2-6
2 One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4 Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. 5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.


1 Timothy 4:1-4

English Standard Version (ESV)
Some Will Depart from the Faith

4 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,


Just depends on what verses of the Bible you are following.
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Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."
Acts 10:13


Romans 14:2-6
2 One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. 4 Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. 5 One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.


1 Timothy 4:1-4

English Standard Version (ESV)
Some Will Depart from the Faith

4 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,


Just depends on what verses of the Bible you are following.
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originally people did not eat flesh!
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Re: A true christian would never eat meat....
walk with christ? or so you say...

compassion is key to walking in hand with the holy spirit.

Know the real holy spirit? - you would never eat meat.

how is eating dead animals showing compassion to our animal brothers and sisters? the same compassion the man called jesus taught...


and for those who pull our that bible scripture it isn't what goes in it is what comes out... that passage refers to much deeper things than FOOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


the "teaching' of the "abstinence" of "eating meat" is the "doctrine of demons". i would be very careful in your walk so as not to cause other fellow believers not to stumble!!

it's rather ironic that most 'new agers" and many within the "occult" are either vegans or vegetarians themselves. one could not get any more "worldly" than that.

"Christians" are to be in the world, but "not of it"!! stop your new age clap trap and seek God's face in such matters especially in one "the world embraces"!!
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Re: A true christian would never eat meat....
or have a tattoo.
or eat shellfish.
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Re: A true christian would never eat meat....
walk with christ? or so you say...

compassion is key to walking in hand with the holy spirit.

Know the real holy spirit? - you would never eat meat.

how is eating dead animals showing compassion to our animal brothers and sisters? the same compassion the man called jesus taught...


and for those who pull our that bible scripture it isn't what goes in it is what comes out... that passage refers to much deeper things than FOOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431



Animals are not our brothers or sisters. They are animals and do not have an eternal soul. Though, even if they are animals, we should care for them, but not in such a way that we treat them as humans.

Since Noach God explicitely told us we could eat meat.
erchoz
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Re: A true christian would never eat meat....
walk with christ? or so you say...

compassion is key to walking in hand with the holy spirit.

Know the real holy spirit? - you would never eat meat.

how is eating dead animals showing compassion to our animal brothers and sisters? the same compassion the man called jesus taught...


and for those who pull our that bible scripture it isn't what goes in it is what comes out... that passage refers to much deeper things than FOOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431



Animals are not our brothers or sisters. They are animals and do not have an eternal soul. Though, even if they are animals, we should care for them, but not in such a way that we treat them as humans.

Since Noach God explicitely told us we could eat meat.
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so?

it was originally no flesh eating, ever.

Why would you not go back to the way paradise was?

because your lust for flesh consumes you
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Re: A true christian would never eat meat....
and based on various scriptures, animals do have souls, and are our brothers and sisters
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Re: A true christian would never eat meat....
walk with christ? or so you say...

compassion is key to walking in hand with the holy spirit.

Know the real holy spirit? - you would never eat meat.

how is eating dead animals showing compassion to our animal brothers and sisters? the same compassion the man called jesus taught...


and for those who pull our that bible scripture it isn't what goes in it is what comes out... that passage refers to much deeper things than FOOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


Dear OP, thank you for starting this very valuable thread.

I love God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, God's creatures and God's creation and i am a vegetarian since decades.
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Re: A true christian would never eat meat....
walk with christ? or so you say...

compassion is key to walking in hand with the holy spirit.

Know the real holy spirit? - you would never eat meat.

how is eating dead animals showing compassion to our animal brothers and sisters? the same compassion the man called jesus taught...


and for those who pull our that bible scripture it isn't what goes in it is what comes out... that passage refers to much deeper things than FOOD.
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i think a true christian would never tell someone else what they can or can't eat.
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That is why we all have free will.

Telling one to stop doing something is not the same as voicing ones own opinion which is what the OP is doing.
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Re: A true christian would never eat meat....
walk with christ? or so you say...

compassion is key to walking in hand with the holy spirit.

Know the real holy spirit? - you would never eat meat.

how is eating dead animals showing compassion to our animal brothers and sisters? the same compassion the man called jesus taught...


and for those who pull our that bible scripture it isn't what goes in it is what comes out... that passage refers to much deeper things than FOOD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


Dear OP, thank you for starting this very valuable thread.

I love God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, God's creatures and God's creation and i am a vegetarian since decades.
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hfhf
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Vanish, And He'll make you shine like the sun
Fall, And He'll raise you to the heavens
Become nothing, And He'll turn you into everything.”
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Vanish, And He'll make you shine like the sun
Fall, And He'll raise you to the heavens
Become nothing, And He'll turn you into everything.”
-Rumi

"Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."
-Jesus (luke 17:21)
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A Vegetarian View of the Torah
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And God said: "Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree that has seed-yielding fruit -- to you it shall be for food." (Gen.1:29)

God's initial intention was that people should be vegetarians. The famous Jewish Torah commentator, Rashi (1040-1105), states the following about God's first dietary law:

God did not permit Adam and his wife to kill a creature and to eat its flesh. Only every green herb shall they all eat together. [1]
Many other Torah commentators agree with this assessment, including Abraham Ibn Ezra (1092-1167), Maimonides (1135-1214), Nachmanides (1194-1270), and Rabbi Joseph Albo (died in 1444). Later scholars, such as Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch (1808-1888), Moses Cassuto (1883-1951), and Nehama Leibowitz (1905-1997), concur. Cassuto, for example, in his commentary From Adam to Noah (p. 58) states:
You are permitted to use the animals and employ them for work, have dominion over them in order to utilize their services for your subsistence, but must not hold their life cheap nor slaughter them for food. Your natural diet is vegetarian... [2]
The above opinions are consistent with the Talmud, which states that people were initially vegetarians: "Adam was not permitted meat for purposes of eating." [3]
The great 13th century Jewish philosopher Nachmanides stated that the reason behind this initial dietary law was:

Living creatures possess a moving soul and a certain spiritual superiority which in this respect make them similar to those who possess intellect (people) and they have the power of affecting their welfare and their food and they flee from pain and death. [4]
According to the Jewish philosopher Rabbi Joseph Albo, the reason is that "In the killing of animals there is cruelty, rage, and the accustoming of oneself to the bad habit of shedding innocent blood..." [5]
God's first dietary law is a unique statement in humanity's spiritual history. It is a spiritual blueprint of a vegetarian world order. Yet how many millions of people have read this Torah verse (Gen. 1:29) and passed it by without considering its meaning?

After stating that people were to adhere to a vegetarian diet, the Torah next indicates that animals were not to prey on one another but were also to have only vegetarian food:

And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is a living soul, [I have given] every green herb for food. (Gen. 1:30)
Immediately after giving these dietary laws, God saw everything that he had made and "behold, it was very good" (Gen. 1:31). Everything in the universe was as God wanted it, with nothing superfluous and nothing lacking, a complete harmony. [6] The vegetarian diet was consistent with God's initial plan.
There are other indications in early chapters of Genesis that people originally were to be sustained on vegetarian diets:

And the Lord God commanded the man, saying: "of every tree of the garden, thou mayest freely eat..." (Gen.2:16)
"...and thou shalt eat the herbs of the field." (Gen. 3:18)

Chapter 5 of Genesis tells of the long lives of people in the generations of the vegetarian period from Adam to Noah. Adam lived 930 years; Seth (Adam's son) lived 912 years; Enosh (Seth's son) lived 905 years; Kenan (Enosh's son) lived 910 years; and so on, until Methuselah, who lived 969 years, the longest time of life recorded in the Torah. After the flood, people lived for much shorter periods. Abraham, for example, lived only 175 years.
Why the tremendous change in life spans? Before the flood, people were forbidden to eat meat; after the flood it was permitted


Read more at: [link to www.jewishveg.com]
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Vanish, And He'll make you shine like the sun
Fall, And He'll raise you to the heavens
Become nothing, And He'll turn you into everything.”
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-Jesus (luke 17:21)
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whats the nobody up to?
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Fall, And He'll raise you to the heavens
Become nothing, And He'll turn you into everything.”
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applause
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whats the nobody up to?
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Why would you think somebody would know that? tounge
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walk with christ? or so you say...

compassion is key to walking in hand with the holy spirit.

Know the real holy spirit? - you would never eat meat.

how is eating dead animals showing compassion to our animal brothers and sisters? the same compassion the man called jesus taught...


and for those who pull our that bible scripture it isn't what goes in it is what comes out... that passage refers to much deeper things than FOOD.
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hugs

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Wow what a beautiful change. At first on Glp there seemed to be only few vegetarians and vegetarians out of love for our brother and sisters the animals..and not for dietary reasons but for love

Now look at the wonderful replies..seems like we are growing in numbers.. hf of maybe more vocal..either way its wonderfulhf
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applause
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whats the nobody up to?
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Why would you think somebody would know that? tounge
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i dunno you used to be on top of it i figured there has to be some news, unless he died..

:(
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Vanish, And He'll make you shine like the sun
Fall, And He'll raise you to the heavens
Become nothing, And He'll turn you into everything.”
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-Jesus (luke 17:21)
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Wow what a beautiful change. At first on Glp there seemed to be only few vegetarians and vegetarians out of love for our brother and sisters the animals..and not for dietary reasons but for love

Now look at the wonderful replies..seems like we are growing in numbers.. hf of maybe more vocal..either way its wonderfulhf
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hfhfhfhfhf

Glad we could connect :)
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Vanish, And He'll make you shine like the sun
Fall, And He'll raise you to the heavens
Become nothing, And He'll turn you into everything.”
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applause
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whats the nobody up to?
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Why would you think somebody would know that? tounge
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i dunno you used to be on top of it i figured there has to be some news, unless he died..

:(
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From what I gather in the threads he cant actually die. lol


I usually visit those threads for the fun and occasional info they provide, nothing much. tounge


I'd bet, though, that if he is a real person he does not eat meat. But I'm just visualizing my habits that I see as ideal in that picture.
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