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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11765896 United States 08/15/2012 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yeilding seed; to you it shall be for meat.Gen.1:29 After The Flood: Animals w/ blood drained out And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; as well as the green herb have I given you all things. But the flesh with the life thereof, whish is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. Gen.9:2-4 New Testament - All Meat o.k., use discernment and eat things that are good(profitable) for your body. ITimothy 4:3-5 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. I Corinthians 10:25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, eat, asking no question for conscience sake. For the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof. Rom. 14:13 IMPORTANT POINT DON'T JUDGE OTHERS IN WHAT THEY EAT, WE WILL ALL GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF OURSELVES TO THE LORD. JUST PURSUE PEACE WITH EACH OTHER AND BUILD ONE ANOTHER UP Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumbling block or an occasion fo fall in his brother's way. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 United States 08/15/2012 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no what is stupid is how people claim to be in contact with the holy spirit and yet continue to eat dead animals... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 regardless of what religion you follow... when you come to your own singularity inside... and connect to that self... eating meat is something that makes zero sense and would not even be considered. So through your infinite wisdom while being in contact with the holy spirit you concluded that the best way to spread your message was to encourage others to believe they are not worthy of their religious designation because they have not arrived at the same personal conclusion that you have? Wow! someone has to correct the blind... That's funny coming from a person who sources his/her consciousness from a book. Can't do your own thinking? Can't come up with your own conclusions without reverting to 'scripture'? no, i have the experience first..and then i happen to meet someone who says check out this gospel, and while reading the gospel find myself connected to it more so than anything thus far... i source my consciousness from the fact that a truly spiritual person would not consume dead animal. fact. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21964569 United States 08/15/2012 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where did Jesus call animals our "brothers and sisters"? Furthermore, people ate meat in the bible, Jesus included. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21964569 Or after his resurrection did he fill the nets of his disciples with tofu? quoted from the essene gospel of the holy 12 And some of the people said, This man careth for all creatures, are they his brothers and sisters that he should love them ? And he said unto them, Verily these are your fellow creatures of the great Household of God, yea, they are your brethren and sisters, having the same breath of life in the Eternal. So not the bible then? |
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Needles Eye User ID: 1480101 United States 08/15/2012 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is a deceiver 1 Timothy 4 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. The things which are impossible with men are possible with God. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 United States 08/15/2012 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus ate lamb and fish in the bible. So you are saying jesus was wrong and you are better than jesus? Quoting: SkepticalTexan once again, jesus ate lamb and fish in the books you choose to read... did you live with the actual man everyone calls jesus? didn't think so. use discernment. a discerning spirit would not eat meat..ever. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 United States 08/15/2012 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is a deceiver Quoting: Needles Eye 1 Timothy 4 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. constantine didn't want to give up eating meat, so he put that in the bible.. know your history! |
ar-15 nut User ID: 1281306 United States 08/15/2012 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Leviticus 11:1-47 ESV / 11 helpful votes And the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying to them, “Speak to the people of Israel, saying, These are the living things that you may eat among all the animals that are on the earth. Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Nevertheless, among those that chew the cud or part the hoof, you shall not eat these: The camel, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. And the rock badger, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. ... [link to www.openbible.info] fail We are a REPUBLIC.If we can keep it MORAN! A pissed off American Veteran! |
Needles Eye User ID: 1480101 United States 08/15/2012 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is a deceiver Quoting: Needles Eye 1 Timothy 4 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. constantine didn't want to give up eating meat, so he put that in the bible.. know your history! The things which are impossible with men are possible with God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21964569 United States 08/15/2012 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus ate lamb and fish in the bible. So you are saying jesus was wrong and you are better than jesus? Quoting: SkepticalTexan once again, jesus ate lamb and fish in the books you choose to read... did you live with the actual man everyone calls jesus? didn't think so. use discernment. a discerning spirit would not eat meat..ever. Just accept the fact that not everyone is going to live by your hippy dippy standards. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 United States 08/15/2012 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i source my consciousness from the fact that a truly spiritual person would not consume dead animal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 fact. In other words, you make up your own BS and call it spiritual, and use it to condemn others by? i didn't condemn i made a factual statement if you truly walked with jesus like you say you do, you would not eat meat. fact. |
Servant of the Lord Most High User ID: 22022432 United States 08/15/2012 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus ate lamb and fish in the bible. So you are saying jesus was wrong and you are better than jesus? Quoting: SkepticalTexan once again, jesus ate lamb and fish in the books you choose to read... did you live with the actual man everyone calls jesus? didn't think so. use discernment. a discerning spirit would not eat meat..ever. I think you need to use discernment because your crazy!!! The entire Bible was meant to be read, not "discern which book to read". Baal stoopeth and N'vo bow before the Lord All Powerful! Warriors of Yahweh, prepare for war! The time is here...are you ready? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21087816 United States 08/15/2012 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus ate lamb and fish in the bible. So you are saying jesus was wrong and you are better than jesus? Quoting: SkepticalTexan once again, jesus ate lamb and fish in the books you choose to read... did you live with the actual man everyone calls jesus? didn't think so. use discernment. a discerning spirit would not eat meat..ever. Romans 14 New King James Version (NKJV) The Law of Liberty 14 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. 3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16542544 United States 08/15/2012 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ANHEDONIC So through your infinite wisdom while being in contact with the holy spirit you concluded that the best way to spread your message was to encourage others to believe they are not worthy of their religious designation because they have not arrived at the same personal conclusion that you have? Wow! someone has to correct the blind... That's funny coming from a person who sources his/her consciousness from a book. Can't do your own thinking? Can't come up with your own conclusions without reverting to 'scripture'? no, i have the experience first..and then i happen to meet someone who says check out this gospel, and while reading the gospel find myself connected to it more so than anything thus far... i source my consciousness from the fact that a truly spiritual person would not consume dead animal. fact. Why does a 'truly spiritual person' need to rely on the words of another man written in a book? Will you require a Bible or Gospel to guide you when you are in pure spiritual form? If the answer is NO, then why do you require one now? Think for yourself! If you think it's wrong to eat meat, that's fine, but don't display the arrogance to inform others that they are lesser 'christians' or belittle them for not arriving at the same decision as you. One could argue your judgement here is not very 'Christ-like' is it? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 United States 08/15/2012 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's funny coming from a person who sources his/her consciousness from a book. Can't do your own thinking? Can't come up with your own conclusions without reverting to 'scripture'? no, i have the experience first..and then i happen to meet someone who says check out this gospel, and while reading the gospel find myself connected to it more so than anything thus far... i source my consciousness from the fact that a truly spiritual person would not consume dead animal. fact. Why does a 'truly spiritual person' need to rely on the words of another man written in a book? Will you require a Bible or Gospel to guide you when you are in pure spiritual form? If the answer is NO, then why do you require one now? Think for yourself! If you think it's wrong to eat meat, that's fine, but don't display the arrogance to inform others that they are lesser 'christians' or belittle them for not arriving at the same decision as you. One could argue your judgement here is not very 'Christ-like' is it? someone has to inform the masses about the lies they have believed... a father always loves his children, but a father also puts his foot down and lets them know what is truly up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21087816 United States 08/15/2012 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . He also said, I am come to end the sacrifices and feasts of blood, and if ye cease not offering and eating of flesh and blood, the wrath of God shall not cease from you, even as it came to your fathers in the wilderness, who lusted for flesh, and they eat to their content, and were filled with rottenness, and the plague consumed them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21964569 United States 08/15/2012 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ANHEDONIC That's funny coming from a person who sources his/her consciousness from a book. Can't do your own thinking? Can't come up with your own conclusions without reverting to 'scripture'? no, i have the experience first..and then i happen to meet someone who says check out this gospel, and while reading the gospel find myself connected to it more so than anything thus far... i source my consciousness from the fact that a truly spiritual person would not consume dead animal. fact. Why does a 'truly spiritual person' need to rely on the words of another man written in a book? Will you require a Bible or Gospel to guide you when you are in pure spiritual form? If the answer is NO, then why do you require one now? Think for yourself! If you think it's wrong to eat meat, that's fine, but don't display the arrogance to inform others that they are lesser 'christians' or belittle them for not arriving at the same decision as you. One could argue your judgement here is not very 'Christ-like' is it? someone has to inform the masses about the lies they have believed... a father always loves his children, but a father also puts his foot down and lets them know what is truly up. Okay, Christians follow the bible. You don't follow the bible. You have your own book apparently. Ergo you aren't a Christian. You are free to call yourself something else. But it is like calling myself a Muslim because I follow the tenants of Tiger Beat magazine. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 United States 08/15/2012 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 no, i have the experience first..and then i happen to meet someone who says check out this gospel, and while reading the gospel find myself connected to it more so than anything thus far... i source my consciousness from the fact that a truly spiritual person would not consume dead animal. fact. Why does a 'truly spiritual person' need to rely on the words of another man written in a book? Will you require a Bible or Gospel to guide you when you are in pure spiritual form? If the answer is NO, then why do you require one now? Think for yourself! If you think it's wrong to eat meat, that's fine, but don't display the arrogance to inform others that they are lesser 'christians' or belittle them for not arriving at the same decision as you. One could argue your judgement here is not very 'Christ-like' is it? someone has to inform the masses about the lies they have believed... a father always loves his children, but a father also puts his foot down and lets them know what is truly up. Okay, Christians follow the bible. You don't follow the bible. You have your own book apparently. Ergo you aren't a Christian. You are free to call yourself something else. But it is like calling myself a Muslim because I follow the tenants of Tiger Beat magazine. there are certain teachings in the bible that resonate with my soul... there are certain teachings from other gospels that resonate with my soul that have been excluded from the bible.. So to be a christian means you follow the bible? thats asinine.. walking with christ has nothing to do with if you believe in the bible or not... or in that gospel or that gospel.. walking with christ means living in fellowship with THE holy spirit.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21964569 United States 08/15/2012 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ANHEDONIC Why does a 'truly spiritual person' need to rely on the words of another man written in a book? Will you require a Bible or Gospel to guide you when you are in pure spiritual form? If the answer is NO, then why do you require one now? Think for yourself! If you think it's wrong to eat meat, that's fine, but don't display the arrogance to inform others that they are lesser 'christians' or belittle them for not arriving at the same decision as you. One could argue your judgement here is not very 'Christ-like' is it? someone has to inform the masses about the lies they have believed... a father always loves his children, but a father also puts his foot down and lets them know what is truly up. Okay, Christians follow the bible. You don't follow the bible. You have your own book apparently. Ergo you aren't a Christian. You are free to call yourself something else. But it is like calling myself a Muslim because I follow the tenants of Tiger Beat magazine. there are certain teachings in the bible that resonate with my soul... there are certain teachings from other gospels that resonate with my soul that have been excluded from the bible.. So to be a christian means you follow the bible? thats asinine.. walking with christ has nothing to do with if you believe in the bible or not... or in that gospel or that gospel.. walking with christ means living in fellowship with THE holy spirit.. We don't care what resonates with your soul. It is irrelevant to the Bible. And yes, being a christian means you follow the bible. It is his book after all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21087816 United States 08/15/2012 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ANHEDONIC Why does a 'truly spiritual person' need to rely on the words of another man written in a book? Will you require a Bible or Gospel to guide you when you are in pure spiritual form? If the answer is NO, then why do you require one now? Think for yourself! If you think it's wrong to eat meat, that's fine, but don't display the arrogance to inform others that they are lesser 'christians' or belittle them for not arriving at the same decision as you. One could argue your judgement here is not very 'Christ-like' is it? someone has to inform the masses about the lies they have believed... a father always loves his children, but a father also puts his foot down and lets them know what is truly up. Okay, Christians follow the bible. You don't follow the bible. You have your own book apparently. Ergo you aren't a Christian. You are free to call yourself something else. But it is like calling myself a Muslim because I follow the tenants of Tiger Beat magazine. there are certain teachings in the bible that resonate with my soul... there are certain teachings from other gospels that resonate with my soul that have been excluded from the bible.. So to be a christian means you follow the bible? thats asinine.. walking with christ has nothing to do with if you believe in the bible or not... or in that gospel or that gospel.. walking with christ means living in fellowship with THE holy spirit.. Romans 14 New King James Version (NKJV) The Law of Liberty 14 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. 3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 United States 08/15/2012 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 someone has to inform the masses about the lies they have believed... a father always loves his children, but a father also puts his foot down and lets them know what is truly up. Okay, Christians follow the bible. You don't follow the bible. You have your own book apparently. Ergo you aren't a Christian. You are free to call yourself something else. But it is like calling myself a Muslim because I follow the tenants of Tiger Beat magazine. there are certain teachings in the bible that resonate with my soul... there are certain teachings from other gospels that resonate with my soul that have been excluded from the bible.. So to be a christian means you follow the bible? thats asinine.. walking with christ has nothing to do with if you believe in the bible or not... or in that gospel or that gospel.. walking with christ means living in fellowship with THE holy spirit.. Romans 14 New King James Version (NKJV) The Law of Liberty 14 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. 3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. i can quote scripture too from other gospels stating the opposite.. thats why its called spiritual discernment why should we blindly follow others words? discern from within. and once again, a TRUE CHRISTIAN, would NEVER eat meat. period. get to know god. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21087816 United States 08/15/2012 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21964569 Okay, Christians follow the bible. You don't follow the bible. You have your own book apparently. Ergo you aren't a Christian. You are free to call yourself something else. But it is like calling myself a Muslim because I follow the tenants of Tiger Beat magazine. there are certain teachings in the bible that resonate with my soul... there are certain teachings from other gospels that resonate with my soul that have been excluded from the bible.. So to be a christian means you follow the bible? thats asinine.. walking with christ has nothing to do with if you believe in the bible or not... or in that gospel or that gospel.. walking with christ means living in fellowship with THE holy spirit.. Romans 14 New King James Version (NKJV) The Law of Liberty 14 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. 3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. i can quote scripture too from other gospels stating the opposite.. thats why its called spiritual discernment why should we blindly follow others words? discern from within. and once again, a TRUE CHRISTIAN, would NEVER eat meat. period. get to know god. New King James Version (NKJV) The Law of Liberty 14 Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. 3 Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16542544 United States 08/15/2012 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ANHEDONIC That's funny coming from a person who sources his/her consciousness from a book. Can't do your own thinking? Can't come up with your own conclusions without reverting to 'scripture'? no, i have the experience first..and then i happen to meet someone who says check out this gospel, and while reading the gospel find myself connected to it more so than anything thus far... i source my consciousness from the fact that a truly spiritual person would not consume dead animal. fact. Why does a 'truly spiritual person' need to rely on the words of another man written in a book? Will you require a Bible or Gospel to guide you when you are in pure spiritual form? If the answer is NO, then why do you require one now? Think for yourself! If you think it's wrong to eat meat, that's fine, but don't display the arrogance to inform others that they are lesser 'christians' or belittle them for not arriving at the same decision as you. One could argue your judgement here is not very 'Christ-like' is it? someone has to inform the masses about the lies they have believed... a father always loves his children, but a father also puts his foot down and lets them know what is truly up. Who designated you the 'father' of others free will? What resonates with you is unique to your own consciousness and perspective, so do not make the mistake of assuming you know what's best for others and what should resonate with them. |