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SkepticalTexan User ID: 1379749 United States 08/15/2012 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Hummm... voting in the Netherlands requires obtaining a government issued polling card. You bastards try to steal elections too! ------------------------------ Registering to Vote Anyone wishing to stay in the Netherlands for more than three months needs a residence permit (Verblijfsvergunning). These can be obtained from the Town Hall (stadhuis) or community office (gemeente). As part of the process of registration with their municipal authority, individuals are asked to declare their wish to register as a voter in the Netherlands. All registered voters are sent a polling card by post approximately two weeks prior to the election. This must then be presented at their designated polling station on the day of election. Compliment me with something my father would laugh at and my mother would believe. A country can't rise higher than the morality of it's women. |
Hawgzilla User ID: 1138565 United States 08/15/2012 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Pa. voter ID law gets approval of state judge Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1490682 By Robert Barnes, Wednesday, August 15, 1:20 PM A Pennsylvania judge ruled Wednesday that a new Republican-supported state voter ID law could be implemented for Election Day, despite objections that it was a partisan attempt to hurt President Obama and could cost thousands of voters the right to cast ballots. Commonwealth Judge Robert Simpson said the individuals and civil rights groups challenging the law had not met the heavy burden of proving that it so clearly violated the state constitution that it should not be implemented. He said there was still time for those without proper ID to acquire it. “Petitioners did not establish . . . that disenfranchisement was immediate or inevitable,” Simpson wrote, adding, “I was convinced that Act 18 will be implemented by Commonwealth agencies in a nonpartisan, evenhanded manner.” The detailed, 70-page opinion by Simpson, a veteran of the bench who is a Republican, makes it much more likely that Pennsylvania voters will now be required to show specific forms of photo ID. It is one of many new restrictive voting laws across the country — in almost all cases, sponsored by Republicans and opposed by Democrats. The decision will quickly be appealed to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. That court is currently operating with only six members, because one of its justices is suspended. A tie vote would uphold Simpson’s ruling. Although their decisions do not always follow partisan lines, the six elected justices are equally divided between Democrats and Republicans. The battle in Harrisburg is just one of dozens being waged in courtrooms in Washington and across the country involving new voting laws. The Justice Department has objected to laws in several states — Texas, South Carolina and Florida, among them — covered by a federal requirement that changes in their voting laws require advance approval from federal authorities or the courts. Pennsylvania acknowledged that it would not attempt to prove that voter impersonation fraud—the kind that would be stopped by photo ID laws—had occurred in the commonwealth, or that it was likely to occur in the coming election without the law. But it said requiring ID was a rational decision by the legislature to protect the voting process and had such a right under the state constitution. The opponents said that even in a modern world where photo ID is requested on a daily basis for routine government exchanges, there were hundreds of thousands of Pennsylvanians who had voted all their lives but lacked the specific kind of photo ID or documents required to get an ID. Simpson was skeptical of the challengers’ estimates. He said he believed that more than 1 percent of the commonwealth’s more than 8 million voters lacked the required ID, but less than the 9 percent figure that opponents of the law submitted. He credited pledges by the secretary of state to streamline the process for requesting ID. With the availability of absentee voting and accepting votes on a provisional basis, Simpson said he was not convinced that any of the petitioners “will not have their votes counted in the general election.” While the challenge was brought under the state constitution, Simpson’s opinion was heavily influenced by the U.S. Supreme Court’s 2008 decision that seemed to give states the green light to require voters to present photo IDs. In the court’s lead opinion, Justice John Paul Stevens, now retired, said that such a law in Indiana was a reasonable reaction to the threat of voter fraud, “amply justified by the valid interest in protecting the integrity and reliability of the electoral process.” Simpson said he considered complaints that the law was motivated by partisan interests, noting what he called the “disturbing, tendentious statements” by state House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R). Turzai listed the law as an accomplishment at a meeting of GOP activists, saying “Voter ID — which is going to allow governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania — done.” Simpson said there was no proof that other lawmakers shared Turzai’s “boastful” view. Even if there were partisan motivations, Simpson said, the Supreme Court’s decision in the Indiana case said that a nondiscriminatory law with should not be invalidated simply because some individual legislators had partisan motivations. [link to www.washingtonpost.com] "...The Ballot or the Bullet", Malcom X Either you're a shill or an idiot. You need ID for virtually your entire public life: ID is needed for the following: adopt a pet purchase a home purchase an automobile purchase a gun obtain a bank account obtain a credit card obtain a passport write a check make a credit card purchase apply for a loan to purchase anything to prove your age to get married to receive a marriage license to drive to buy a house to close on a house to get medical care to get on a plane to get insurance on anything to get a job to get a post office box to get a hunting license to get a fishing license to get a business license to cash a paycheck rent an apartment rent a hotel room rent a car rent furniture rent tools and equipment receive welfare receive social security receive food stamps buy cigarettes buy alcohol buy a bus ticket buy a cell phone buy any antihistimine go in to a casino go in to a bar go to college have your water turned on have your electricity turned on have your cable turned on have your gas turned on obtain trash pick up service pick up a package from the post office pick up a package from fed ex pick up a package from ups pick up a prescription I suppose asking or requiring ID for these things is also racist? 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Hawgzilla User ID: 1138565 United States 08/15/2012 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? If there is someone out there whodoes not have a photo ID than they now have plenty of time to go out and get one. If they chose not to get an ID, than they don't deserve to vote. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1243759 x2 Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now. |
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AntScrd (OP) User ID: 1490682 Netherlands 08/15/2012 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Yup. There was no fraud but we need voter Id. That was the republican rationale and it shows that they are a shrinking minority. Republicans are a gnat sitting on a sleeping giant. They are gonna fuck around and get swatted. |
Hawgzilla User ID: 1138565 United States 08/15/2012 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Yup. There was no fraud but we need voter Id. That was the republican rationale and it shows that they are a shrinking minority. Republicans are a gnat sitting on a sleeping giant. They are gonna fuck around and get swatted. Whats this "we" shit oh great one who hails from the Netherlands? Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States 08/15/2012 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Yup. There was no fraud but we need voter Id. That was the republican rationale and it shows that they are a shrinking minority. Republicans are a gnat sitting on a sleeping giant. They are gonna fuck around and get swatted. This has nothing to do with any American voter. The liberals need the illegal vote or will get hammered in the election. |
Hawgzilla User ID: 1138565 United States 08/15/2012 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Yup. There was no fraud but we need voter Id. That was the republican rationale and it shows that they are a shrinking minority. Republicans are a gnat sitting on a sleeping giant. They are gonna fuck around and get swatted. I'll ask again; why is ti we need ID to: adopt a pet purchase a home purchase an automobile purchase a gun obtain a bank account obtain a credit card obtain a passport write a check make a credit card purchase apply for a loan to purchase anything to prove your age to get married to receive a marriage license to drive to buy a house to close on a house to get medical care to get on a plane to get insurance on anything to get a job to get a post office box to get a hunting license to get a fishing license to get a business license to cash a paycheck rent an apartment rent a hotel room rent a car rent furniture rent tools and equipment receive welfare receive social security receive food stamps buy cigarettes buy alcohol buy a bus ticket buy a cell phone buy any antihistimine go in to a casino go in to a bar go to college have your water turned on have your electricity turned on have your cable turned on have your gas turned on obtain trash pick up service pick up a package from the post office pick up a package from fed ex pick up a package from ups pick up a prescription But when it comes to voting ANYONE can just walk in without identifying themselves in any way? That's your position? You're going to defend that stance? Last Edited by Hawgzilla on 08/15/2012 09:44 PM Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now. |
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Hawgzilla User ID: 1138565 United States 08/15/2012 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Yup. There was no fraud but we need voter Id. That was the republican rationale and it shows that they are a shrinking minority. Republicans are a gnat sitting on a sleeping giant. They are gonna fuck around and get swatted. Here's your proof of voter fraud. Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1490682 Netherlands 08/15/2012 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Yup. There was no fraud but we need voter Id. That was the republican rationale and it shows that they are a shrinking minority. Republicans are a gnat sitting on a sleeping giant. They are gonna fuck around and get swatted. This has nothing to do with any American voter. The liberals need the illegal vote or will get hammered in the election. What part of "there was no fraud found" don't you understand? Republicans admitted it in court and the judge still passed the bullshit law.Its headed to the State Supreme court. You are joke who wishes yo were Black, thats why you have Robert Downey jr. in Black Face as your avatar. A Freudian slip. Lol. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States 08/15/2012 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Obama is going to have buses stop in all the city projects at 2:00 pm on election day. The tax payers will fork over the service. It has to be afternoon because he needs as many votes as possible but they don't get out of bed till after 1:00 pm |
Hawgzilla User ID: 1138565 United States 08/15/2012 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Yup. There was no fraud but we need voter Id. That was the republican rationale and it shows that they are a shrinking minority. Republicans are a gnat sitting on a sleeping giant. They are gonna fuck around and get swatted. This has nothing to do with any American voter. The liberals need the illegal vote or will get hammered in the election. What part of "there was no fraud found" don't you understand? Republicans admitted it in court and the judge still passed the bullshit law.Its headed to the State Supreme court. You are joke who wishes yo were Black, thats why you have Robert Downey jr. in Black Face as your avatar. A Freudian slip. Lol. What don't YOU understand? Ban guns to "save the children" but killing them in the womb is totally cool......I see; it makes perfect sense now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21893985 United States 08/15/2012 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Pa. voter ID law gets approval of state judge Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1490682 By Robert Barnes, Wednesday, August 15, 1:20 PM A Pennsylvania judge ruled Wednesday that a new Republican-supported state voter ID law could be implemented for Election Day, despite objections that it was a partisan attempt to hurt President Obama and could cost thousands of voters the right to cast ballots. Commonwealth Judge Robert Simpson said the individuals and civil rights groups challenging the law had not met the heavy burden of proving that it so clearly violated the state constitution that it should not be implemented. He said there was still time for those without proper ID to acquire it. “Petitioners did not establish . . . that disenfranchisement was immediate or inevitable,” Simpson wrote, adding, “I was convinced that Act 18 will be implemented by Commonwealth agencies in a nonpartisan, evenhanded manner.” The detailed, 70-page opinion by Simpson, a veteran of the bench who is a Republican, makes it much more likely that Pennsylvania voters will now be required to show specific forms of photo ID. It is one of many new restrictive voting laws across the country — in almost all cases, sponsored by Republicans and opposed by Democrats. The decision will quickly be appealed to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. That court is currently operating with only six members, because one of its justices is suspended. A tie vote would uphold Simpson’s ruling. Although their decisions do not always follow partisan lines, the six elected justices are equally divided between Democrats and Republicans. The battle in Harrisburg is just one of dozens being waged in courtrooms in Washington and across the country involving new voting laws. The Justice Department has objected to laws in several states — Texas, South Carolina and Florida, among them — covered by a federal requirement that changes in their voting laws require advance approval from federal authorities or the courts. Pennsylvania acknowledged that it would not attempt to prove that voter impersonation fraud—the kind that would be stopped by photo ID laws—had occurred in the commonwealth, or that it was likely to occur in the coming election without the law. But it said requiring ID was a rational decision by the legislature to protect the voting process and had such a right under the state constitution. The opponents said that even in a modern world where photo ID is requested on a daily basis for routine government exchanges, there were hundreds of thousands of Pennsylvanians who had voted all their lives but lacked the specific kind of photo ID or documents required to get an ID. Simpson was skeptical of the challengers’ estimates. He said he believed that more than 1 percent of the commonwealth’s more than 8 million voters lacked the required ID, but less than the 9 percent figure that opponents of the law submitted. He credited pledges by the secretary of state to streamline the process for requesting ID. With the availability of absentee voting and accepting votes on a provisional basis, Simpson said he was not convinced that any of the petitioners “will not have their votes counted in the general election.” While the challenge was brought under the state constitution, Simpson’s opinion was heavily influenced by the U.S. Supreme Court’s 2008 decision that seemed to give states the green light to require voters to present photo IDs. In the court’s lead opinion, Justice John Paul Stevens, now retired, said that such a law in Indiana was a reasonable reaction to the threat of voter fraud, “amply justified by the valid interest in protecting the integrity and reliability of the electoral process.” Simpson said he considered complaints that the law was motivated by partisan interests, noting what he called the “disturbing, tendentious statements” by state House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R). Turzai listed the law as an accomplishment at a meeting of GOP activists, saying “Voter ID — which is going to allow governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania — done.” Simpson said there was no proof that other lawmakers shared Turzai’s “boastful” view. Even if there were partisan motivations, Simpson said, the Supreme Court’s decision in the Indiana case said that a nondiscriminatory law with should not be invalidated simply because some individual legislators had partisan motivations. [link to www.washingtonpost.com] "...The Ballot or the Bullet", Malcom X |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States 08/15/2012 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Yup. There was no fraud but we need voter Id. That was the republican rationale and it shows that they are a shrinking minority. Republicans are a gnat sitting on a sleeping giant. They are gonna fuck around and get swatted. This has nothing to do with any American voter. The liberals need the illegal vote or will get hammered in the election. What part of "there was no fraud found" don't you understand? Republicans admitted it in court and the judge still passed the bullshit law.Its headed to the State Supreme court. You are joke who wishes yo were Black, thats why you have Robert Downey jr. in Black Face as your avatar. A Freudian slip. Lol. Are you mentally retarded? I never said anything about fraud. I see your also a avatard. news flash i'm not white dumb shit |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1490682 Netherlands 08/15/2012 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Had there not been such corruption with the ACORN voter registration and the recent mass mailing of pseudo board of election registration cards to pets and dead people in Virginia, there would be no need for photo id. Quoting: Blonde Mom This requirement for photo IRS is just an attempt to protect the validity of an election. I want my legitimate vote to count. Voter fraud denies an honest voter his rights. How many convictions or even criminal prosecutions of ACORN were there? Zero Why. Because it was all revealed to be BULLSHIT by asshole Republican ideologues with the help of Rupert Murdoch Fox News. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States 08/15/2012 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Had there not been such corruption with the ACORN voter registration and the recent mass mailing of pseudo board of election registration cards to pets and dead people in Virginia, there would be no need for photo id. Quoting: Blonde Mom This requirement for photo IRS is just an attempt to protect the validity of an election. I want my legitimate vote to count. Voter fraud denies an honest voter his rights. How many convictions or even criminal prosecutions of ACORN were there? Zero Why. Because it was all revealed to be BULLSHIT by asshole Republican ideologues with the help of Rupert Murdoch Fox News. Now I will talk about fraud. FBI, Fla Police arrest 11 ACORN workers for voter fraud [link to www.digitaljournal.com] |
Mr. Predictor Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1032780 United States 08/15/2012 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? in the great Soviet State of Washington we only have vote by mail "If there is a new fascism, it won't come from skinheads and punks; it will come from people who eat granola and think they know how the world should be." - Brian Eno |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11391214 United States 08/15/2012 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pennsylvania Republicans Trying To Steal Election With Voter ID Law. Targets Blacks,Elderly And Young Whites.? Had there not been such corruption with the ACORN voter registration and the recent mass mailing of pseudo board of election registration cards to pets and dead people in Virginia, there would be no need for photo id. Quoting: Blonde Mom This requirement for photo IRS is just an attempt to protect the validity of an election. I want my legitimate vote to count. Voter fraud denies an honest voter his rights. How many convictions or even criminal prosecutions of ACORN were there? Zero Why. Because it was all revealed to be BULLSHIT by asshole Republican ideologues with the help of Rupert Murdoch Fox News. Now I will talk about fraud. FBI, Fla Police arrest 11 ACORN workers for voter fraud [link to www.digitaljournal.com] owned |