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Are Jehovahs witness a cult ??

 
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Are Jehovahs witness a cult ??
Someone keeps trying to recruit folks at GLP to become
Jehovah's Witness. Is this just another cult?
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Re: Are Jehovahs witness a cult ??
Yes.

Want to get a Jehovahs witness confused or angry?

Just show them Revelation 1:17 “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades."

But back in Revelation 1:8, they use the word "Jehovah" (Yes, they change the bible to fit their doctrine.

The change makes Revelation 1:17 make no sense at all so you ask the Jehovah Witness .... "When was God ever dead and then become alive again??????"

The silence and look of confusion on their face ... priceless.
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Big time cult, members completely controlled by the leaders, even told they can't understand the bible on their own.
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them and the mormons are seventeenth century satanic convention masonic cults.

a major satanic push.
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Read John 1:1 in their bible(the new world translation)

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was a god.

Polytheism in that verse alone.

Last Edited by Passin' Through on 08/16/2012 12:48 AM
“If Noah’s flood really did occur, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.” And guess what we find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.
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All religions are, by definition, a cult.
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Re: Are Jehovahs witness a cult ??
Read John 1:1 in their bible(the new world translation)

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.

Polytheism in that verse alone.
 Quoting: Passin' Through


fixed from your shitty JW occult evil "translation"

do a google on JW new world translation. you'll learn ALL about it.
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Every single christian sect is a cult. A cult of sacrifice and blood letting in the name of love (intolerance).
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All religions are.
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Read John 1:1 in their bible(the new world translation)

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.

Polytheism in that verse alone.
 Quoting: Passin' Through


fixed from your shitty JW occult evil "translation"

do a google on JW new world translation. you'll learn ALL about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21342693


Why are you trying to deny what is there? I was just going off memory, then I did a search as you suggested, and here it is.



Online Bible
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ContentsChaptersPreviousNext
John 1:1-51

1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. 2 This one was in [the] beginning with God. 3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.

[link to www.watchtower.org]
“If Noah’s flood really did occur, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.” And guess what we find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.
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Jehovah's Witnesses are up there with mormons and scientologists in my book.
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Jehovah's Witnesses are up there with mormons and scientologists in my book.
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Catholics, baptists...every single christian belongs to a cult of blood. Hopefully their god takes them away real soon... :-)
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short answer YES. Google cults and there it is.
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This also needs to be pointed out. All the personal pronouns concerning Yshushua are in lower case. They do not recognize Him as God.
“If Noah’s flood really did occur, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.” And guess what we find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.
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Read John 1:1 in their bible(the new world translation)

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.

Polytheism in that verse alone.
 Quoting: Passin' Through


fixed from your shitty JW occult evil "translation"

do a google on JW new world translation. you'll learn ALL about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21342693


Why are you trying to deny what is there? I was just going off memory, then I did a search as you suggested, and here it is.



Online Bible
New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
ContentsChaptersPreviousNext
John 1:1-51

1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. 2 This one was in [the] beginning with God. 3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.

[link to www.watchtower.org]
 Quoting: Passin' Through


yep the "watchtower".

the NW JW "translation" is automatic writing occult horseshit. stay far away.
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Re: Are Jehovahs witness a cult ??
Read John 1:1 in their bible(the new world translation)

In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God.

Polytheism in that verse alone.
 Quoting: Passin' Through


fixed from your shitty JW occult evil "translation"

do a google on JW new world translation. you'll learn ALL about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21342693


Why are you trying to deny what is there? I was just going off memory, then I did a search as you suggested, and here it is.



Online Bible
New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
ContentsChaptersPreviousNext
John 1:1-51

1 In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. 2 This one was in [the] beginning with God. 3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.

[link to www.watchtower.org]
 Quoting: Passin' Through


yep the "watchtower".

the NW JW "translation" is automatic writing occult horseshit. stay far away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21342693


Then why did you rip on me?
“If Noah’s flood really did occur, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.” And guess what we find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.
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Hey all, I am a Jehovah's Witness so you can take my points with a grain of salt if you wish. Before I start I'd like to inform you that people are trying to mislead you....


First of all the age old talking point to discredit our faith in Jesus as our Savior using John 1:1 is ridiculous. The one true god Jehovah has acknowledged other beings as 'gods' like Satan is the "God of this system". However, he demands WORSHIP only to him, we don't worship Jesus but we do try to follow his example right down to who he prayed to before his death (think about this one, read Luke 40:43). We reject the Trinity doctrine.

Remember that before the Christian Greek scriptures were written Jesus was referred to in the Hebrew Scriptures as "the word", so we know exactly who this verse is referring to.
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Hey all, I am a Jehovah's Witness so you can take my points with a grain of salt if you wish. Before I start I'd like to inform you that people are trying to mislead you....


First of all the age old talking point to discredit our faith in Jesus as our Savior using John 1:1 is ridiculous. The one true god Jehovah has acknowledged other beings as 'gods' like Satan is the "God of this system". However, he demands WORSHIP only to him, we don't worship Jesus but we do try to follow his example right down to who he prayed to before his death (think about this one, read Luke 40:43). We reject the Trinity doctrine.

Remember that before the Christian Greek scriptures were written Jesus was referred to in the Hebrew Scriptures as "the word", so we know exactly who this verse is referring to.
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Well, there you have it OP, enough said.
“If Noah’s flood really did occur, what would you expect to find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.” And guess what we find? Billions of dead things, buried in rock layers, laid down by water, all over the earth.
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As regards to the Revelation 1:8 vs 1:17 how you interpret relates to what you believe. We believe that Jehovah has always existed in that he has no beginning and will always exist, and that Jesus is his first creation and through/with his 'only begotten son' they created everything and everyone else.

1:8 is talking about Jehovah and 1:17 describes Jesus Imitating his father, by that I mean he showed the same love, Justice, Wisdom, and Power throughout his existence, especially to us when he was on Earth.
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And btw Jehovah's Witnesses don't "recruit", I heard that from atheist classmates in high school. Obviously we believe that we hold the truth, and we share our knowledge with other human beings.

As for waking you up on a Saturday morning, remember most of what Jesus did on Earth once he was baptized was Preach and Teach people about his father's kingdom that would solve all problems including death. An admirable goal for any human being that believes in god.

I don't know if the rest of you know this, but the 7th day Adventists HATE Jehovah's Witnesses and differ in doctrine. Mormons send young boys on bikes to push their Illuminati bible aid book for 2 years and then they get a sweet scholarship. Jehovah's Witness' are ALL volunteers, plus we don't believe in any of the levels of hell or mystical planets or aliens.
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Hey all, I am a Jehovah's Witness so you can take my points with a grain of salt if you wish. Before I start I'd like to inform you that people are trying to mislead you....


First of all the age old talking point to discredit our faith in Jesus as our Savior using John 1:1 is ridiculous. The one true god Jehovah has acknowledged other beings as 'gods' like Satan is the "God of this system". However, he demands WORSHIP only to him, we don't worship Jesus but we do try to follow his example right down to who he prayed to before his death (think about this one, read Luke 40:43). We reject the Trinity doctrine.

Remember that before the Christian Greek scriptures were written Jesus was referred to in the Hebrew Scriptures as "the word", so we know exactly who this verse is referring to.
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As a former member I can say this is a mind control cult of the highest order. Weak minds will find it a haven of sorts. Stay away.
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Hey all, I am a Jehovah's Witness so you can take my points with a grain of salt if you wish. Before I start I'd like to inform you that people are trying to mislead you....


First of all the age old talking point to discredit our faith in Jesus as our Savior using John 1:1 is ridiculous. The one true god Jehovah has acknowledged other beings as 'gods' like Satan is the "God of this system". However, he demands WORSHIP only to him, we don't worship Jesus but we do try to follow his example right down to who he prayed to before his death (think about this one, read Luke 40:43). We reject the Trinity doctrine.

Remember that before the Christian Greek scriptures were written Jesus was referred to in the Hebrew Scriptures as "the word", so we know exactly who this verse is referring to.
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As a former member I can say this is a mind control cult of the highest order. Weak minds will find it a haven of sorts. Stay away.
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As a current holder of intelligence, I can see how I was brainwashed by the Illuminati TV, Music, movies, and school system. I'm not a kid anymore, and I can see through such techniques (for the most part). You can keep calling mind control wolf, but if you don't have something legitimate to say then your being written off.
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Not as big as the Catholic cult but still a cult.

The definition of 'cult' is usually about the Trinity or Godhead. If they do not accept that yet call themselves 'christian' they are a Christian cult.

But what should be added is that if they are off into other non-Christian books &/or traditions they are also a 'cult'.

The Mormons use other books. While JW use only the Bible they use an edited version called the New World translation that has omitted large sections and changed passages. They refuse to go to Greek & Hebrew to prove their version.
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Hey all, I am a Jehovah's Witness so you can take my points with a grain of salt if you wish. Before I start I'd like to inform you that people are trying to mislead you....


First of all the age old talking point to discredit our faith in Jesus as our Savior using John 1:1 is ridiculous. The one true god Jehovah has acknowledged other beings as 'gods' like Satan is the "God of this system". However, he demands WORSHIP only to him, we don't worship Jesus but we do try to follow his example right down to who he prayed to before his death (think about this one, read Luke 40:43). We reject the Trinity doctrine.

Remember that before the Christian Greek scriptures were written Jesus was referred to in the Hebrew Scriptures as "the word", so we know exactly who this verse is referring to.
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Who sends prophets? What do you think about Matthew 23:34?
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I remember having a friend who lived down the street who grew up as a Jehova's witness. He literally wasn't allowed to celebrate anything. No christmas, no easter, halloween, new years eve, not even his fxxxing birthday!! What a miserable existence.
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Not as big as the Catholic cult but still a cult.

The definition of 'cult' is usually about the Trinity or Godhead. If they do not accept that yet call themselves 'christian' they are a Christian cult.

But what should be added is that if they are off into other non-Christian books &/or traditions they are also a 'cult'.

The Mormons use other books. While JW use only the Bible they use an edited version called the New World translation that has omitted large sections and changed passages. They refuse to go to Greek & Hebrew to prove their version.
 Quoting: Axx 21968272


According to the Greed Septuagint, John 1:1 says that the word was "a god". The New World Translation was translated directly from Hebrew and Greek, many Jehovah's Witnesses are well versed in these languages. Even if you read the King James version, if you read the WHOLE thing, you will understand this pagan Trinity worship is all none sense. Exactly what have Jehovah's Witnesses omitted that was in the original texts? We get smeared a lot, but never valid proof.
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I remember having a friend who lived down the street who grew up as a Jehova's witness. He literally wasn't allowed to celebrate anything. No christmas, no easter, halloween, new years eve, not even his fxxxing birthday!! What a miserable existence.
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Christmas was a Roman Pagan Holiday where men would give each other presents, sodomize, and beat their wives, oh and it just happens to be the date of the winter solstice.

Easter is a spring fertility Holiday dating back to when parents burned their children in the fire for Molech.

Halloween is about making offerings to demons.

New Years Eve is a great and easy time to get off work to go on vacation. But a rebirth celebration? I WILL buy champagne on sale.

Birth days were pagan rituals where Royalty would have someone beheaded.

If you had a boring childhood, it was because of your parents not their religion. I got presents year round, went to costume parties, and had fun all the time. But I also had purpose and maturity at a young age.
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Hey all, I am a Jehovah's Witness so you can take my points with a grain of salt if you wish. Before I start I'd like to inform you that people are trying to mislead you....


First of all the age old talking point to discredit our faith in Jesus as our Savior using John 1:1 is ridiculous. The one true god Jehovah has acknowledged other beings as 'gods' like Satan is the "God of this system". However, he demands WORSHIP only to him, we don't worship Jesus but we do try to follow his example right down to who he prayed to before his death (think about this one, read Luke 40:43). We reject the Trinity doctrine.

Remember that before the Christian Greek scriptures were written Jesus was referred to in the Hebrew Scriptures as "the word", so we know exactly who this verse is referring to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20264996


Who sends prophets? What do you think about Matthew 23:34?
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I would refer you to Luke 11:49, but we're getting into semantics now, the best way to prove my point is the continuity of the bible. From the first prophecy in Genesis about Jehovah's seed (Jesus) bruising Satan and his seed (World Powers of Government/Religion) all the way to 1 Corinthians 15:20-28 talking about how Jehovah has subjected all things to Jesus, and Jesus subjected himself (ultimate show of humility) to Jehovah.
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Not as big as the Catholic cult but still a cult.

The definition of 'cult' is usually about the Trinity or Godhead. If they do not accept that yet call themselves 'christian' they are a Christian cult.

But what should be added is that if they are off into other non-Christian books &/or traditions they are also a 'cult'.

The Mormons use other books. While JW use only the Bible they use an edited version called the New World translation that has omitted large sections and changed passages. They refuse to go to Greek & Hebrew to prove their version.
 Quoting: Axx 21968272


According to the Greed Septuagint, John 1:1 says that the word was "a god". The New World Translation was translated directly from Hebrew and Greek, many Jehovah's Witnesses are well versed in these languages. Even if you read the King James version, if you read the WHOLE thing, you will understand this pagan Trinity worship is all none sense. Exactly what have Jehovah's Witnesses omitted that was in the original texts? We get smeared a lot, but never valid proof.
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Passages re the Trinity for one thing. The KJV absolutely does support the three being one God.

There is a pagan version of the trinity but this was only a copy of the original.

JW have a good deal of Bible truth.(i agree with them on several topics.) I'm in no denomination.
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Who sends prophets? What do you think about Matthew 23:34?
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I would refer you to Luke 11:49, but we're getting into semantics now, the best way to prove my point is the continuity of the bible. From the first prophecy in Genesis about Jehovah's seed (Jesus) bruising Satan and his seed (World Powers of Government/Religion) all the way to 1 Corinthians 15:20-28 talking about how Jehovah has subjected all things to Jesus, and Jesus subjected himself (ultimate show of humility) to Jehovah.
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So Jesus said that He sends prophets, and your response is lala?
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Anyone that blames the falsities of religion on satanism is so backwards and ignarant that anything they say should be discarded immediately. ALL religion is a cult, i was raised a mormon in Oregon, the mormon church didn't care a about my family very much because we where not big earners for the church, its all about money and power for these types of people, whether or not they believed what they told me as a young child about being god some day, i do not know, but isn't that a weird thing to tell a child, and the brain washing gets more intense as you get older i got out when i was about 10. all of you people that quote the bible are just playing into the hands of the people that seek to subjugate you. abandon everything you know poeple, stop trying to learn and just think, the only truth you have heard in your life is when you parents said they loved you.

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