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Shooting in refinery parking lot north of New Orleans. TWO sheriffs dead.

 
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The sick thing is, that the Police KNEW these guys were dangerous. Rather, I should say it appears in isolated clusters the police knew these guys were dangerous.

From the looks of it DeSoto Parish, Robertson County Sheriff's Office, Adams, Tennessee, Morehouse Parish Sheriffs , knew that these bad guys went through Nebraska, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, Alabama, Indiana, South Carolina and Virginia. All these authorities knew of this dangerous situation, yet from the looks of it they sat on the information. They LET these bad guys live in neighborhoods with innocent women and children. Is this not Maleficence in office?

Was it for the BIG ARREST, the Career Maker that these stupid selfish police officers sat on this information?

Further more, what about this.. why wasn't Big Sis Napolitano at DHS all over this? There are warrants from across state lines,obviously some federal jurisdiction there. We need answers.

Speaking of Police, I fear that the Sheriff who had only been in Office 45 days on the day of the shooting was not equipped or properly trained or experienced enough to handle this dangerous situation.. Did the deputies handle the visit to the trailer incorrectly?

A deputy had already been ambushed near the Valero Refinery and shot. The deputies were dispatched to the trailer park on a citizen's tip. However given the FACT there was a previous ambush, St. John's deputies should have gone in heavy with vests, shotguns & AR-15s (if they have them) and maybe brought in State Police on patrol in the area. I don't think St John has a SWAT team.

If they had been investigating a standard assault & battery and received the citizen tip, then 3 deputies would have been fine. But we are talking about a tip after three extremists drove up to a deputy's car and opened fire. That should have put everyone on high alert

The 7 suspects ( that include one black woman) in St. John deputy shootings are tied to a violent anti-government group. Terry Smith admitted to being involved with the Sovereign Citizen Movement.


For the record, I am against too much regulation and a government gone wild, but I also believe in our System of Government, that being doing things legally. Use the courts, use recall, use the voting booth.

These crazies NEED to be rounded up, they are destroying our freedoms with their crazy ideas.
AND...

Mr and Miss policeman, don't sit on this kind of information, make a plan and go in and arrest the bad guys, or at the very least please share the info with ALL of the Police dept. around the country.

You are your Brother’s Keeper

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 Quoting: Life's-A-Bitch


Yeah but which Police...it seems the Desoto Parish Sherrifs were onto these guys months ago....not enough reason to make arrest???...how about at least 4 felony warrants?...and you are right...that noob Sherrif likely had no idea who these guys were...and even with that said..you just don't go after a suspect in a shooting like that without some serious manpower/firepower...Now I don't condone sending the shock troops after everything, but once they knew it was car that the first shooter used?...they really should have held positions and called for back up support.....but that's my opinion and it's in hind sight and it's also very possible that the actual Sherrif was not there because it was 5:00 AM and it all seemed to happen pretty fast, but whoever WAS in command at the time should have held his men in check until more back up could have been called, at least.

Still though I would fault the Desoto guys for not alerting the adjoining counties to these people...and why Didn't arrest at least the guys with warrants?...probably up the food chain and as you said...might have been building some career case...meanwhile the fucktards didn't wait to kill people...


Really this thing sounds to me like the "State Police" took the whole thing over...they certainly assumed control of the whole thing very quickly and shoved that new Sherrif out of the way real quick...CYA...

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The previous probe into Joekel was conducted about two months ago by the DeSoto Parish Sheriff’s Office in north Louisiana, according to the Shreveport Times. It began after neighbors apparently saw Joekel and others carrying assault weapons in and out of a trailer. But nothing ever came of it, the newspaper reported, because investigators were unable to get enough evidence for a search warrant or arrests.

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Story now making mainstream national news, tying the shooters and their companions to soveriegn citizens movement:

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 Quoting: goodmockingbird


Might be those retards turn in the barrel...I noticed there was even a TV cop show making them look like violent asshole on maybe a couple months ago?....retards yes for sure...how violent?...I don't know about that premise....but this little incident sure might end speculation about that...

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LAPLACE, La. - A DeSoto Parish lieutenant has identified four of the five suspects wanted in connection with the fatal shooting of two St. John Parish deputies and the wounding of two others.

Lieutenant Robert Davidson said the suspected shooters were Kyle Joekel and Brian Smith.



Why didn't they share this information? So sad to lose the lives of the young men/Deputies. THey both have small children, God help their families..


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In February 2009, Terry, Brian and Derrick Smith were involved in a dispute with St. John Deputy Nicholas Silvestri. Terry Smith filed a criminal complaint against Silvestri in April 2009, detailing the encounter with the officer who was working a traffic detail at Airline Highway and Terre Haute Road in Reserve near the Marathon Refinery plant.

The criminal complaint was filed in April and requested that a grand jury be convened to hear the allegations that Silvestri violated Smith's constitutional rights, saying he was detained and arrested without cause and illegally searched, among other complaints.

Terry Smith also alleged in the complaint that St. John deputies caused him to lose his job "at the plant." He doesn't specify where he worked.

In that 2009 incident Terry Smith refused to provide a driver's license to the deputy and "I advised him that I was a sovereign citizen invoking my constitutional rights and that it appeared he was holding me against my will," Smith wrote in his complaint.

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so there was bad blood with the Traffic detail cops and these bad guys... This whole thing is so sad. so many lives destroyed.
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if only we could replace all these weapons of killing with flowersrivotears
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maybe this... [link to www.youtube.com]
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The sick thing is, that the Police KNEW these guys were dangerous. Rather, I should say it appears in isolated clusters the police knew these guys were dangerous.

From the looks of it DeSoto Parish, Robertson County Sheriff's Office, Adams, Tennessee, Morehouse Parish Sheriffs , knew that these bad guys went through Nebraska, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, Alabama, Indiana, South Carolina and Virginia. All these authorities knew of this dangerous situation, yet from the looks of it they sat on the information. They LET these bad guys live in neighborhoods with innocent women and children. Is this not Maleficence in office?

Was it for the BIG ARREST, the Career Maker that these stupid selfish police officers sat on this information?

Further more, what about this.. why wasn't Big Sis Napolitano at DHS all over this? There are warrants from across state lines,obviously some federal jurisdiction there. We need answers.

Speaking of Police, I fear that the Sheriff who had only been in Office 45 days on the day of the shooting was not equipped or properly trained or experienced enough to handle this dangerous situation.. Did the deputies handle the visit to the trailer incorrectly?

A deputy had already been ambushed near the Valero Refinery and shot. The deputies were dispatched to the trailer park on a citizen's tip. However given the FACT there was a previous ambush, St. John's deputies should have gone in heavy with vests, shotguns & AR-15s (if they have them) and maybe brought in State Police on patrol in the area. I don't think St John has a SWAT team.

If they had been investigating a standard assault & battery and received the citizen tip, then 3 deputies would have been fine. But we are talking about a tip after three extremists drove up to a deputy's car and opened fire. That should have put everyone on high alert

The 7 suspects ( that include one black woman) in St. John deputy shootings are tied to a violent anti-government group. Terry Smith admitted to being involved with the Sovereign Citizen Movement.


For the record, I am against too much regulation and a government gone wild, but I also believe in our System of Government, that being doing things legally. Use the courts, use recall, use the voting booth.

These crazies NEED to be rounded up, they are destroying our freedoms with their crazy ideas.
AND...

Mr and Miss policeman, don't sit on this kind of information, make a plan and go in and arrest the bad guys, or at the very least please share the info with ALL of the Police dept. around the country.

You are your Brother’s Keeper


[link to www.nola.com]
 Quoting: Life's-A-Bitch


bump for discussion
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bump for more discussion. L.A. ex-cop , is there a pattern here
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I bet it's Ron Paul supporters or Muslims.
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NOW THIS GUY HAS A HIGH IQ. NOW GO BACK TO YOUR TRAILER
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This is probably going to go big real soon...good find OP...
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Yes they are attacking officers and I expect the sheriffs who said they wouldn't enforce federal gun bans are the target.

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