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Moving to The Netherlands, Tell Me What to Expect!

 
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08/18/2012 07:30 AM
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Why would the small sample of your personal experience produce a more reliable result than the census?
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

good point. but i don't believe in census results.

people highly underestimate the religious influences in the netherlands.
 Quoting: Belgian Coward 15782258

That's a thing of the past.
Frex, 50 years ago the confessional parties would win over 50% of the national vote, the last time around it was less than 17%.
(Latest poll 14.4%)

again a good point; but i find statistics to be useless.

take a practical point view: on sunday, most of the many many churches in the netherlands are filled with people. on sunday in belgium, most of the many many churches are almost empty.

since you like numbers: provide some statistics on the number of active pastors/priests per capita.
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I'll be moving to The Netherlands soon. I just need to find a room to rent somewhere.

What can I expect? Culture shock? Immigrant prejudices?



Where do GLP'er's hang out over there? LOL! lmao
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You can expect to PUKE from the incredibly astronomical level of absolute libtardism.
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Expect to get HIGH!
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Better leave soon. In the healthcare bill was something about gov taking 30% of all money wired out of the country. This is not for any tax owed. This is your penalty for leaving the country. Pretty sure it goes into effect end of this year. Jan 1st at the latest.......
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From what I understand the Chatholic churches are empty in southern Neth. and I also assume I Bel. I'm second generation Canadian being half Flemish and Dutch descent and also catholic. My wife's parents are also Dutch and catholic. My wife has been to Neth. several times to the Tilburg, Breda area near the Belgian border. She can confirm that the Catholic churches are empty, only the older people still go. I talk to alot of people everyday that still visit southern Neth. and east and west Flanders and they love going there. The catholic boers or farmers in these areas are some of the best partiers in the area and love their beer. The northern Dutch above the Maas river are predominantly protestant(Dutch Reform) and are more refined and reservered and cling more to their religion. Here in Ontario the situation is the same.
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You can expect to PUKE from the incredibly astronomical level of absolute libtardism.
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And you either belong to the notorious '1%', or you have absolutely no clue at all of what's really going on - that is the coming of the New World Order - Police State USA/EU.



But hey, dream on...
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I'll be moving to The Netherlands soon. I just need to find a room to rent somewhere.

What can I expect? Culture shock? Immigrant prejudices?



Where do GLP'er's hang out over there? LOL! lmao
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy


You can expect to PUKE from the incredibly astronomical level of absolute libtardism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22169666


Eh, Nederlanders are what I would call "Berkeley Liberal" - ultraliberal on issues that don't directly affect them, ultraconservative on issues that do.
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If you're looking for cheaper apartments in the Netherlands, your best bet is to look OUTSIDE the Randstaad. If you don't know what "Randstaad" is, look it up.

Then again, places outside the Randstaad also tend to be rural too, so be prepared for less stuff happening. And less jobs on offer too.
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Got caught with kilo of crack in suitcase.
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Ohhhhhh! So you got deported then? Any jail time?
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy


Aye I got stuck in jail for 4 days the got bail - I wnt to British embassy and they got me flight home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21841759


Yeah, crime in Nederland is somewhat different. I remember a coworker telling me that if you murder someone, you might be able to get off without jail time but if you cheat on your taxes, expect the death penalty.
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Oh. I didn't follow that story all that much but wasn't he related to the royals or something?
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy


Seems American lives are of no value to these people. Beware American traveler!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13828320




I don't think American lives are of much value to our own country. Look at our taxes and infra-structure. It's gonna tank I tell ya'!
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy


I noticed a lot of Muslims there.

"Data from 2009 show that the Netherlands hosts an estimated 825,000 Muslims. Most of them live in the four major cities of the country, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, The Hague and Utrecht."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21406652


Oh yes, take a train ride from anywhere to anywhere in the Randstaad and count the number of minarets you see while in transit.

But that's not just an issue in Nederland - UK has that problem now, and it's spreading throughout all of europe. France has banned headscarves, etc. Europe is not what it used to be, part of the reason I left and came back.
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* TIP for those moving to the Netherlands *

Make sure you ALWAYS ALWAYS wear one of these:

[link to www.google.com (secure)]

The reasons to always wear a life preserving ring:

As a newbie, you might fall into a canal.

Worse yet, the dams are getting old and if they give... well, if they do, you´ll be one of the lucky few able to tell what happened!

When in the Netherlands, never get out of the house without a life preserving ring!
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Well, what to expect when you move to Holland?

Let me tell you as an expert on Holland.
(I was born in The Netherlands)
First, when you land at Schiphol Airport and you move from the naked scanner to Amsterdam City Center please keep your hand on your wallet all the time.(Before you know it, it is gone).
And don't be afraid when you drive through the country to see many hundreds of mosques along the way. These mosques all form a network so once the muslems have taken over here you will be beheaded when you do not convert to their pagan religion. So be prepared to loose your head in the long run.

Further, expect a lot of burocracy and a bunch of people, especially the Dutch Government, who are all after your money.

Welcome to Holland!
Jesus is Lord
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Also. Watch this video. You must formulate a strong passionate opinion either for or against this song. It's doesn't really matter if you hate it to death or love it to pieces but you must MUST do one or the other. It is verboden to just say, I don't get it.

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expect a lot of muslims..
learn arabic
lol
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Well, what to expect when you move to Holland?

Let me tell you as an expert on Holland.
(I was born in The Netherlands)
First, when you land at Schiphol Airport and you move from the naked scanner to Amsterdam City Center please keep your hand on your wallet all the time.(Before you know it, it is gone).
And don't be afraid when you drive through the country to see many hundreds of mosques along the way. These mosques all form a network so once the muslems have taken over here you will be beheaded when you do not convert to their pagan religion. So be prepared to loose your head in the long run.

Further, expect a lot of burocracy and a bunch of people, especially the Dutch Government, who are all after your money.

Welcome to Holland!
 Quoting: HenryHolland


What a bunch of bullshit.

Mostly this kind of Messages are written by people with miserable lives who blame others for that.

1st of all, welcome to Op :-)
Wish more Americans were coming here!

Yes, we do have immigrants here which don't integrate as we wish, fact is that the Netherlands is an awesome country to live in with lots of good opportunities for honest, wellwilling, hardworking people.

In my opinion people are always looking to and blaming the government for their problems but Forget They have their own responsibility too. Stop spreading this BS about " Mosques" and stuff, simply not true.

If any of you Americans ever decide trying to live the American Dream for real, try to do that overhere :-)

I am even willing to help possible US immigrants coming here :-)

Greetz
aNONaMITTy  (OP)

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Don't talk about making war! That's a strong caution. We hate that. We will find ways to put you in jail.
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That's one reason I'm leaving. I don't want anything to do with a war machine so I'm glad for your comments.



Hey thanks everybody for all the posts. I'm looking forward to watching the video's Roxy posted and answering everyone. But, we have a storm coming in so I'll probably lose electricity.

I'll be back. I want to watch this storm. Oh, and thank you for the stars!!



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Better leave soon. In the healthcare bill was something about gov taking 30% of all money wired out of the country. This is not for any tax owed. This is your penalty for leaving the country. Pretty sure it goes into effect end of this year. Jan 1st at the latest.......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2926765






I learned long ago the US is after every cent I have.
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From what I understand the Chatholic churches are empty in southern Neth. and I also assume I Bel. I'm second generation Canadian being half Flemish and Dutch descent and also catholic. My wife's parents are also Dutch and catholic. My wife has been to Neth. several times to the Tilburg, Breda area near the Belgian border. She can confirm that the Catholic churches are empty, only the older people still go. I talk to alot of people everyday that still visit southern Neth. and east and west Flanders and they love going there. The catholic boers or farmers in these areas are some of the best partiers in the area and love their beer. The northern Dutch above the Maas river are predominantly protestant(Dutch Reform) and are more refined and reservered and cling more to their religion. Here in Ontario the situation is the same.
 Quoting: JMC





Thank you. I think I've just found out the part of The Netherlands I'd like to try.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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If you're looking for cheaper apartments in the Netherlands, your best bet is to look OUTSIDE the Randstaad. If you don't know what "Randstaad" is, look it up.

Then again, places outside the Randstaad also tend to be rural too, so be prepared for less stuff happening. And less jobs on offer too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14118518





I kind of figured outside the 4 largest cities is where I should be. I don't need a job, just a cheap place to live while I start a small business.
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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* TIP for those moving to the Netherlands *

Make sure you ALWAYS ALWAYS wear one of these:

[link to www.google.com (secure)]

The reasons to always wear a life preserving ring:

As a newbie, you might fall into a canal.

Worse yet, the dams are getting old and if they give... well, if they do, you´ll be one of the lucky few able to tell what happened!

When in the Netherlands, never get out of the house without a life preserving ring!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22176421





I'm an excellent swimmer!
"We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka
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You have to make a tough choice: Heineken or Grolsch? Don't come to the 'Achterhoek' if you prefer Heineken!
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Well, what to expect when you move to Holland?

Let me tell you as an expert on Holland.
(I was born in The Netherlands)
First, when you land at Schiphol Airport and you move from the naked scanner to Amsterdam City Center please keep your hand on your wallet all the time.(Before you know it, it is gone).
And don't be afraid when you drive through the country to see many hundreds of mosques along the way. These mosques all form a network so once the muslems have taken over here you will be beheaded when you do not convert to their pagan religion. So be prepared to loose your head in the long run.

Further, expect a lot of burocracy and a bunch of people, especially the Dutch Government, who are all after your money.

Welcome to Holland!
 Quoting: HenryHolland


What a bunch of bullshit.

Mostly this kind of Messages are written by people with miserable lives who blame others for that.

1st of all, welcome to Op :-)
Wish more Americans were coming here!

Yes, we do have immigrants here which don't integrate as we wish, fact is that the Netherlands is an awesome country to live in with lots of good opportunities for honest, wellwilling, hardworking people.

In my opinion people are always looking to and blaming the government for their problems but Forget They have their own responsibility too. Stop spreading this BS about " Mosques" and stuff, simply not true.

If any of you Americans ever decide trying to live the American Dream for real, try to do that overhere :-)

I am even willing to help possible US immigrants coming here :-)

Greetz
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22181273





Thank you sir. This is the kind of greeting I usually encounter from your country men. I look forward to being there as soon as I can. I would like to try to live the American Dream there...for real! How can you help me? I am definitely needing it.
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Thank you. I think I've just found out the part of The Netherlands I'd like to try.
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy

personally, i love the southerns parts of the netherlands (province Noord-Brabant and Limburg). they are, for me, the ideal mixture between the dutch and the flemish people. there is also a lot more nature, compared to most other provinces in the netherlands.

on both sides of the border in these provinces, you will always have a mixture of both cultures. the actual 'border' is just a sign saying "welcome to holland/belgium" anyway, tollbooths and border police stations have gone since a decade.

if you like to live in a smaller town with plenty of cultural accomodations, and easy public transport to the rest of the netherlands and belgium, try Tilburg.
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You have to make a tough choice: Heineken or Grolsch? Don't come to the 'Achterhoek' if you prefer Heineken!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400299

as a belgian, i'm not ashamed to say that Grolsch is actually a nice beer :)
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I didn't realize outside of the cities is crowded. That kinda sucks!
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy

It's not! We have many small towns in between big cities but also much green and lovely lakes. Visited one at the border of Belgium today, it was like being in southern France again. :)


expect exorbitant high gas prices!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22087429

Yep, but if you're close to the (Belgium) border it's worth driving there for a fill-up.


A whole country full of devious Joran Van Der Sloot types with bad food and unhygenically clean women. Have fun!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13828320

Uninformed, or should I say misinformed. slaphim


You export the better food and import what you eat? That's crazy!

I'm vegetarian so maybe it won't be so bad for me.
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy

Especially meat is getting very expensive, but I've turned vegan and it's pretty easy to get alternatives here.


I'm going to admit to another reason of moving to The Netherlands. I've found The Nobody. I'm going there because of him. And, if anybody wants to travel there with me, let's do it!!!!
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy

Care to explain?


Expect to get HIGH!
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Yes!

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You have to make a tough choice: Heineken or Grolsch? Don't come to the 'Achterhoek' if you prefer Heineken!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400299

as a belgian, i'm not ashamed to say that Grolsch is actually a nice beer :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15782258


Not as good as Jupiler. :)
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You have to make a tough choice: Heineken or Grolsch? Don't come to the 'Achterhoek' if you prefer Heineken!
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LOL!

I had to look Achterhoek up and it looks like a beautiful part of the country. I'll drink Grolsch even though I'm not that much of a beer drinker!!!!

muaha
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Thank you. I think I've just found out the part of The Netherlands I'd like to try.
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy

personally, i love the southerns parts of the netherlands (province Noord-Brabant and Limburg). they are, for me, the ideal mixture between the dutch and the flemish people. there is also a lot more nature, compared to most other provinces in the netherlands.

on both sides of the border in these provinces, you will always have a mixture of both cultures. the actual 'border' is just a sign saying "welcome to holland/belgium" anyway, tollbooths and border police stations have gone since a decade.

if you like to live in a smaller town with plenty of cultural accomodations, and easy public transport to the rest of the netherlands and belgium, try Tilburg.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15782258




This sounds absolutely wonderful. Thank you. I will start googling Tilburg and see what I can come up with. By the way, I am very attracted to Belgium, probably because it seems so much closer to nature. Thanks again.
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You have to make a tough choice: Heineken or Grolsch? Don't come to the 'Achterhoek' if you prefer Heineken!
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LOL!

I had to look Achterhoek up and it looks like a beautiful part of the country. I'll drink Grolsch even though I'm not that much of a beer drinker!!!!

muaha
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy


It's the best part of the Netherlands, close to the German border (they also have good beer/cheap fuel/good quality affordable food).
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I didn't realize outside of the cities is crowded. That kinda sucks!
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy

It's not! We have many small towns in between big cities but also much green and lovely lakes. Visited one at the border of Belgium today, it was like being in southern France again. :)
 Quoting: Daikirai






ME: This sounds great. What town did you visit that reminded you of southern France?


I'm going to admit to another reason of moving to The Netherlands. I've found a spiritual teacher. I'm going there because of him. And, if anybody wants to travel there with me, let's do it!!!!

Care to explain?
 Quoting: aNONaMITTy






ME: He is a great spiritual teacher. He has written two books and did some seminars here.




Expect to get HIGH!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5260817

Yes!

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ME: Heh!

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