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Ral User ID: 1923980 Netherlands 08/19/2012 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you. I think I've just found out the part of The Netherlands I'd like to try. Quoting: aNONaMITTy personally, i love the southerns parts of the netherlands (province Noord-Brabant and Limburg). they are, for me, the ideal mixture between the dutch and the flemish people. there is also a lot more nature, compared to most other provinces in the netherlands. on both sides of the border in these provinces, you will always have a mixture of both cultures. the actual 'border' is just a sign saying "welcome to holland/belgium" anyway, tollbooths and border police stations have gone since a decade. if you like to live in a smaller town with plenty of cultural accomodations, and easy public transport to the rest of the netherlands and belgium, try Tilburg. More nature? No. That is in the neast and north. |
Ral User ID: 1923980 Netherlands 08/19/2012 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have to make a tough choice: Heineken or Grolsch? Don't come to the 'Achterhoek' if you prefer Heineken! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400299 as a belgian, i'm not ashamed to say that Grolsch is actually a nice beer :) One comment: Grolsch is from Twente, not the Achterhoek. |
Ral User ID: 1923980 Netherlands 08/19/2012 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I came to US as a political refugee from Poland in 1976, with grandiose vision and ideas about the Land Of Free. Slowly this onion got peeled out to about a one string of chive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21515565 europe is slowly becoming the same sort of police state, . nothing like in the us. I see a cop once a month where I live, if I am lucky... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21858155 Czechia 08/19/2012 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Left a long time ago cause it started too look more and more like the cesspool we call the US.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21858155 You'll feel right at home. Ugh! I sure hope not. At least it isn't a war-mongering country. The Dutch started to get less freedom, police everywhere ridiculous rules. The Dutch have severe problems with North Africans that cannot adapt. Additionally the US gang culture slowly became the life of a lot of kids. Playing getto. Now they are closing the coffeeshops practically by issuing crazy laws. In fact they could probably close every coffeeshop TODAY because of the insane 15% THC rule. For everything there's a rule. And then everything is artificial as the whole country is cultivated or even created (which is an interesting achievement.) Not my thing I like nature and mountains. |
Ral User ID: 1923980 Netherlands 08/19/2012 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: aNONaMITTy This sounds great. What town did you visit that reminded you of southern France? I live in Maastricht in a nice little village just outside the centre called 'Borgharen'. Today we went to Maasmechelen (20 min drive, just in Belgium), which has really nice lakes with a bit of a sandy beach, very very nice! I was in Maastricht 2 weeks ago. Such a friendly atmosphere there, totally different from Amsterdam, Rotterdam & The Hague. Groningen is also nice, Arnhem & Nijmegen too. Utrecht is supposed to be okay - I can't tell 'cos I never go there. Haarlem is a very nice town to live - inbetween Amsterdam (15 minutes by train to the east) and the beaches of Zandvoort in the west. Thank you. This is the kind of thing I was hoping for when I posted this thread. I personally prefer to live in a smaller village but had no idea where. Your list is helpful. Haarlem is expensive. Try Zwolle, Apeldoorn, Deventer, Amersfoort, Enschede, Hengelo |
Ral User ID: 1923980 Netherlands 08/19/2012 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | both the netherlands and flanders (roughly the upper half of belgium) don't have any nature left. originally, those regions were either floodland, heath or moorland - but massive forests have been planted during medieval times; those forests have almost been cut entirely these days. a few spots still stand ground, and are more or less untainted. Quoting: Anonymous Coward I am very attracted to Belgium, probably because it seems so much closer to nature. Thanks again.the only real nature close to the netherlands is either on the german border (forests) or in the southern part of belgium (hills, forests, peatland, farmland). of course, if you like the seaside, you'll find all you need :) Like I said: go to the east of Holland: Twente and the Achterhoek. Rural, nature. Enschede has 200K+ inhabintants and a University. |
Ral User ID: 1923980 Netherlands 08/19/2012 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like the seaside but I like forests too. Anyplace that has both in The NL? Bergen & Aardenhout (near Haarlem) I like the seaside but I like forests too. Anyplace that has both in The NL? Bergen & Aardenhout (near Haarlem) Extremely expensive. More like Beverly Hills |
Ral User ID: 1923980 Netherlands 08/19/2012 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what attracts me to Europe. The architecture, the culture and green trees, bushes, flowers, etc:. America is too landscapped. Everything is touched by human hands. Quoting: aNONaMITTy Huh? Too landscaped have you ever been to pacific northwest. Norther California,Oregon,Washington indeed. the netherlands and belgium are one of the most densely populated and unnatural landscapes you'll find. its landscaping might look more natural or organically formed, because we have been building stuff for few thousand years, just patching it all together on top of the older stuff. in general, the netherlands and belgium are quite rural and quiet places to live though. you just can't compare it to the vast natural reserves of eg. the united states or canada. You just go to the Veluwe (NL) or the Ardennes (BE) and have a look there |
Ral User ID: 1923980 Netherlands 08/19/2012 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bergen & Aardenhout (near Haarlem) Will check that out. Thanks. Not rural, not slow paced... Hyper capitalism galore over there. Go to Twente, Achterhoek or Drente. Slow paced communities. |
T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 22124619 United States 08/19/2012 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | has this been used ,stoned pedophiles below sea level..yeah i know,other countries have stoned pedophiles above sea level,but at least child porn is illegal here or is that just a rumor about Amsterdam?.. any dutch wish to clear up that rumor? Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 08/19/2012 04:29 PM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
RoXY User ID: 19973059 Netherlands 08/19/2012 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | has this been used ,stoned pedophiles below sea level..yeah i know,other countries have stoned pedophiles above sea level,but at least child porn is illegal here or is that just a rumor about Amsterdam?.. Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg Of course child porn is illegal here. And about people being high on hash & weed I'd like to point out that they don't cause the kind of problems (agression being one) alcohol causes. 'Een tevreden roker is geen onrust stoker'. Fabulous tracks (1988-2013) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Pure Happiness Thread: FEEL GOOD !!! # FOUR (4) - & more - MINUTES of PURE HAPPINESS !!! # (Videos) Good Food Thread: MONSANTO # (GMO) FOOD 4 THOUGHT - Know What You Eat # (Ongoing Videos & Articles) Watch This! Thread: WATCH THIS !!! # An Ongoing, Carefully Selected Collection of MUST SEE VIDEOS Big Brother Thread: BIG BROTHER in the age of INTERNET # (Ongoing - Links, Articles & Videos) Economy Thread: THE ECONOMY & YOU # (Daily Updated Videos & Articles) UFOs Thread: UFO PHOTOS (1200+) # World UFO Photo Gallery + Ongoing Links, Articles & Videos The Better You Look, The More You See... Educate Yourself! |
Ral User ID: 1923980 Netherlands 08/19/2012 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Left a long time ago cause it started too look more and more like the cesspool we call the US.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21858155 You'll feel right at home. Ugh! I sure hope not. At least it isn't a war-mongering country. The Dutch started to get less freedom, police everywhere ridiculous rules. The Dutch have severe problems with North Africans that cannot adapt. Additionally the US gang culture slowly became the life of a lot of kids. Playing getto. Now they are closing the coffeeshops practically by issuing crazy laws. In fact they could probably close every coffeeshop TODAY because of the insane 15% THC rule. For everything there's a rule. And then everything is artificial as the whole country is cultivated or even created (which is an interesting achievement.) Not my thing I like nature and mountains. Where did you live? Probably in a big city. We don't have police over here where I live (really!) and at night only 5 cars patrol the entire province :-) I have seen no gangs because I dont live in Amsterdam... You must have been a drug tourist going to Amsterdam and getting disappointed ? |
Sleepy dog User ID: 3705 Netherlands 08/19/2012 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP, The beer is a deal!! Just let me know when you arrive and where you are! I went 7 times to the US, starting in the Ronald Reagan and Archie Bunker (lol) periode in 1985. At that time I was 24, and I went because Bruce Springsteen's album Born in the USA. Yess the Boss invited me to you country. I am still a loyal fan, I saw him this year in Cologne and went for a 2 day trip to Paris to see him! He is still my inspiration!! Now he is playing in Fenway Park in Boston, wow what a history in that stadium, more than 100 years old! From my location its 3 or 4 hours by train to Paris, London, Brussels, or Berlin, Frankfurt or what ever. Amsterdam, Rotterdam and The Hague are around 90 minutes. But at that time in 1985 it were Glory days all the way for me!! I went to Orlando/Disneyland 5 days, saw the everglades and ended up at Key West and got drunk with the sailors. In Orlando I meet a guy from New York with his girlfriend they invited me to New York. So, my first visit to New York was a year later in 86! My first landing on American ground was a flight with Pan-Am from Amsterdam to Atlanta. My first Budweiser was at the transit area at Atlanta. After 2 hours there I was on the Plane to Miami! It was my first American city to visit. ( many would follow after that, I tell you later, if you want!) How I came to the choice Miami? It was because the series Miami Vice haha |
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aNONaMITTy (OP) User ID: 9834739 United States 08/19/2012 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wooden shoes ....... Wooden heads ....... Wouldn't listen! Quoting: ScarfNZ 21929742 Sums up the Dutch! Daikirai, could you email me? [email protected] "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
aNONaMITTy (OP) User ID: 9834739 United States 08/19/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I came to US as a political refugee from Poland in 1976, with grandiose vision and ideas about the Land Of Free. Slowly this onion got peeled out to about a one string of chive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21515565 europe is slowly becoming the same sort of police state, . nothing like in the us. I see a cop once a month where I live, if I am lucky... Plus, it doesn't look to me like your cops beat the shit out of somebody and then haul them. I've watched YT videos of arrests there. The cops are pretty polite. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 19507663 Netherlands 08/19/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have to make a tough choice: Heineken or Grolsch? Don't come to the 'Achterhoek' if you prefer Heineken! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1400299 as a belgian, i'm not ashamed to say that Grolsch is actually a nice beer :) One comment: Grolsch is from Twente, not the Achterhoek. Philistine! ;) Grolsch mean from Grol (Groenlo in Dutch). It was brewed there from 1615 to 2004. Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
aNONaMITTy (OP) User ID: 9834739 United States 08/19/2012 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Left a long time ago cause it started too look more and more like the cesspool we call the US.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21858155 You'll feel right at home. Ugh! I sure hope not. At least it isn't a war-mongering country. The Dutch started to get less freedom, police everywhere ridiculous rules. The Dutch have severe problems with North Africans that cannot adapt. Additionally the US gang culture slowly became the life of a lot of kids. Playing getto. Now they are closing the coffeeshops practically by issuing crazy laws. In fact they could probably close every coffeeshop TODAY because of the insane 15% THC rule. For everything there's a rule. And then everything is artificial as the whole country is cultivated or even created (which is an interesting achievement.) Not my thing I like nature and mountains. Me too. But, I have a better chance at establishing myself as a Dutch citizen first. Then, I can explore the rest of Eu. to find nature if I can't find it in The Netherlands. I actually am part German but not enough to establish myself as a citizen there. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
aNONaMITTy (OP) User ID: 9834739 United States 08/19/2012 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Daikirai I live in Maastricht in a nice little village just outside the centre called 'Borgharen'. Today we went to Maasmechelen (20 min drive, just in Belgium), which has really nice lakes with a bit of a sandy beach, very very nice! I was in Maastricht 2 weeks ago. Such a friendly atmosphere there, totally different from Amsterdam, Rotterdam & The Hague. Groningen is also nice, Arnhem & Nijmegen too. Utrecht is supposed to be okay - I can't tell 'cos I never go there. Haarlem is a very nice town to live - inbetween Amsterdam (15 minutes by train to the east) and the beaches of Zandvoort in the west. Thank you. This is the kind of thing I was hoping for when I posted this thread. I personally prefer to live in a smaller village but had no idea where. Your list is helpful. Haarlem is expensive. Try Zwolle, Apeldoorn, Deventer, Amersfoort, Enschede, Hengelo Aha! Thank you for that list. I will check them out. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
aNONaMITTy (OP) User ID: 9834739 United States 08/19/2012 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is what attracts me to Europe. The architecture, the culture and green trees, bushes, flowers, etc:. America is too landscapped. Everything is touched by human hands. Quoting: aNONaMITTy Huh? Too landscaped have you ever been to pacific northwest. Norther California,Oregon,Washington indeed. the netherlands and belgium are one of the most densely populated and unnatural landscapes you'll find. its landscaping might look more natural or organically formed, because we have been building stuff for few thousand years, just patching it all together on top of the older stuff. in general, the netherlands and belgium are quite rural and quiet places to live though. you just can't compare it to the vast natural reserves of eg. the united states or canada. You just go to the Veluwe (NL) or the Ardennes (BE) and have a look there OK, thank you again. I'm looking them up right now. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
aNONaMITTy (OP) User ID: 9834739 United States 08/19/2012 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not rural, not slow paced... Hyper capitalism galore over there. Go to Twente, Achterhoek or Drente. Slow paced communities. I checked out Achterhoek yesterday. I'll check out the other two today. Thanks. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
aNONaMITTy (OP) User ID: 9834739 United States 08/19/2012 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Left a long time ago cause it started too look more and more like the cesspool we call the US.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21858155 You'll feel right at home. Ugh! I sure hope not. At least it isn't a war-mongering country. The Dutch started to get less freedom, police everywhere ridiculous rules. The Dutch have severe problems with North Africans that cannot adapt. Additionally the US gang culture slowly became the life of a lot of kids. Playing getto. Now they are closing the coffeeshops practically by issuing crazy laws. In fact they could probably close every coffeeshop TODAY because of the insane 15% THC rule. For everything there's a rule. And then everything is artificial as the whole country is cultivated or even created (which is an interesting achievement.) Not my thing I like nature and mountains. Where did you live? Probably in a big city. We don't have police over here where I live (really!) and at night only 5 cars patrol the entire province :-) I have seen no gangs because I dont live in Amsterdam... You must have been a drug tourist going to Amsterdam and getting disappointed ? What part of the country are you in Ral? (If you don't mind me asking.) "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
aNONaMITTy (OP) User ID: 9834739 United States 08/19/2012 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey OP, Quoting: Sleepy dog 3705 The beer is a deal!! Just let me know when you arrive and where you are! I went 7 times to the US, starting in the Ronald Reagan and Archie Bunker (lol) periode in 1985. At that time I was 24, and I went because Bruce Springsteen's album Born in the USA. Yess the Boss invited me to you country. I am still a loyal fan, I saw him this year in Cologne and went for a 2 day trip to Paris to see him! He is still my inspiration!! Now he is playing in Fenway Park in Boston, wow what a history in that stadium, more than 100 years old! From my location its 3 or 4 hours by train to Paris, London, Brussels, or Berlin, Frankfurt or what ever. Amsterdam, Rotterdam and The Hague are around 90 minutes. But at that time in 1985 it were Glory days all the way for me!! I went to Orlando/Disneyland 5 days, saw the everglades and ended up at Key West and got drunk with the sailors. In Orlando I meet a guy from New York with his girlfriend they invited me to New York. So, my first visit to New York was a year later in 86! My first landing on American ground was a flight with Pan-Am from Amsterdam to Atlanta. My first Budweiser was at the transit area at Atlanta. After 2 hours there I was on the Plane to Miami! It was my first American city to visit. ( many would follow after that, I tell you later, if you want!) How I came to the choice Miami? It was because the series Miami Vice haha LOL! Thanks for sharing your story. And sure, I enjoy hearing about your adventures, whatever and wherever they take place. I'll post here when I get some more details worked out. In the meantime, take my email address. Several of the posters here are keeping in touch that way too. We'll have a party as soon as I get there. It should be fun meeting other GLP'ers and of course, I'd like to thank everybody for the help. You guys are a fun bunch of folks. We'll have a beer fest and you guys can watch me try every brand you come up with, LOL! "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
aNONaMITTy (OP) User ID: 9834739 United States 08/19/2012 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I arrived and landed my first time, Quoting: Sleepy dog 3705 Starship had a number one with this! We built this city! Cool song I had it on my casette player in the plane when I landed! I know I am getting old! lol Casette player? Man, those days are over, eh? I always liked that song. Same with Born in the USA. Oldies but goodies. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
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RoXY User ID: 19973059 Netherlands 08/19/2012 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I came to US as a political refugee from Poland in 1976, with grandiose vision and ideas about the Land Of Free. Slowly this onion got peeled out to about a one string of chive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21515565 europe is slowly becoming the same sort of police state, . nothing like in the us. I see a cop once a month where I live, if I am lucky... Plus, it doesn't look to me like your cops beat the shit out of somebody and then haul them. I've watched YT videos of arrests there. The cops are pretty polite. Look again... Last Edited by RoXY on 08/19/2012 07:13 PM Fabulous tracks (1988-2013) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Pure Happiness Thread: FEEL GOOD !!! # FOUR (4) - & more - MINUTES of PURE HAPPINESS !!! # (Videos) Good Food Thread: MONSANTO # (GMO) FOOD 4 THOUGHT - Know What You Eat # (Ongoing Videos & Articles) Watch This! Thread: WATCH THIS !!! # An Ongoing, Carefully Selected Collection of MUST SEE VIDEOS Big Brother Thread: BIG BROTHER in the age of INTERNET # (Ongoing - Links, Articles & Videos) Economy Thread: THE ECONOMY & YOU # (Daily Updated Videos & Articles) UFOs Thread: UFO PHOTOS (1200+) # World UFO Photo Gallery + Ongoing Links, Articles & Videos The Better You Look, The More You See... Educate Yourself! |
Sleepy dog User ID: 3705 Netherlands 08/19/2012 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I arrived and landed my first time, Quoting: Sleepy dog 3705 Starship had a number one with this! We built this city! Cool song I had it on my casette player in the plane when I landed! I know I am getting old! lol Casette player? Man, those days are over, eh? I always liked that song. Same with Born in the USA. Oldies but goodies. Cheers!! |
aNONaMITTy (OP) User ID: 9834739 United States 08/19/2012 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plus, it doesn't look to me like your cops beat the shit out of somebody and then haul them. I've watched YT videos of arrests there. The cops are pretty polite. Look again... Well, okay. That's bad. But, it still isn't as bad as I've seen here. By the way Roxy, I just got banned from GLP. And a friend of mine got banned. So, I'm letting my subscription run out on the 24th. If you will email me, I'd like to keep in touch. My email is: [email protected] Thanks for all your posts. They have been informative and helpful. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
aNONaMITTy (OP) User ID: 9834739 United States 08/19/2012 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I arrived and landed my first time, Quoting: Sleepy dog 3705 Starship had a number one with this! We built this city! Cool song I had it on my casette player in the plane when I landed! I know I am getting old! lol Casette player? Man, those days are over, eh? I always liked that song. Same with Born in the USA. Oldies but goodies. Cheers!! Heh! Sleepy dog, let's stay in touch. I'll be leaving GLP as soon as my subscription runs out which is the 24th. My email is: [email protected] Thanks for all your posts. "We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of dreams." Willy Wonka |
Sleepy dog User ID: 3705 Netherlands 08/20/2012 03:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I arrived and landed my first time, Quoting: Sleepy dog 3705 Starship had a number one with this! We built this city! Cool song I had it on my casette player in the plane when I landed! I know I am getting old! lol Casette player? Man, those days are over, eh? I always liked that song. Same with Born in the USA. Oldies but goodies. Cheers!! Heh! Sleepy dog, let's stay in touch. I'll be leaving GLP as soon as my subscription runs out which is the 24th. My email is: [email protected] Thanks for all your posts. Great! Check your inbox |