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Is there scientific evidence for an intelligent designer aka God?

 
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heres my question. With all that man has endured thru nature, the most puzzling is this how did man survive the ravages of plague. There is no explanation. The knowledge of epideology would suggests that mankind should have faded into extinction a long time ago, and yet we are still here. The nature of disease is to invade the body and destroy it, about the time the human body's immune system adapts and sends t cells to attack the invading bacterium, the disease has mutated many times, rendering our defenses weak and useless thus the many deaths recorded in history. How did we survive the perfect killing machine if not by the hand of a divine being?
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Thx 4 the input IMHO it does not matter we call our creator I refuse to believe that everything we see is 1 big accident
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For all we know humanity is probably similar to an unplanned pregnancy...

Two forces came together in a synergetic interaction and created something...which grew overtime.

The basics of creation. Energetic interaction...particles rubbin' up on particles...


Now if you think of complex particle formations working in a coherent way (a human body, a planet, a galaxy etc) they are interacting with similar structures (another human body, other close celestial objects, other galaxies) and when they find themselves in a harmonious state with that other similar structure...a synergetic "bond" is created that can spark that creation.

Doesn't mean there's a man in the sky directing it all...

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Just my perspective on that...
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A few years ago I came across some fractal geometry studies with examples including natuaral logorhythms such as snail shells, sea shells, DNA sequences...anyway microsoft was involved with a study of mathmatical expressions that drive these natural algorrhythms sort of like an algebra equation that is the same "engine" for all of these natural logorhythms. The scientists were dumbfounded to discover this equation was like magical in its properties. To me this is the best example of evidence of a higher power, a creator equation that is a direct expression of the god thought particle.whatever
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Excellent Seer ! you are truly tapping into the wonders of Gods love !

hf
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i know this post was along time ago but wtf are you on about gods love? this series is against Christianity dont you realize that? it says religion is fraud, they are out to control the people and get money. (not in those exact words) it says god didnt create us. there is no "god", god is what you want it to be..its all in the mind. when you die you will see whatever you believed in, if your thoughts were good you will see good if you were bad you will see bad. NO HEAVEN NO HELL. people were brainwashed by the frauds. NO ONE CREATED US. this series supports NO GOD. why do christians like this series lol?? it says they are wrong..
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Why do you equate an "intelligent designer" with "God?" It's possible that intelligent aliens have been guiding the evolution and development of life on Earth for millions of years.

Still, to the best of my knowledge, there is no scientific evidence for intelligent design.

And what would you consider to be evidence for an intelligent designer? Just because something is very, very unlikely doesn't mean it would never happen, especially in an infinite universe.
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heres my question. With all that man has endured thru nature, the most puzzling is this how did man survive the ravages of plague. There is no explanation. The knowledge of epideology would suggests that mankind should have faded into extinction a long time ago, and yet we are still here. The nature of disease is to invade the body and destroy it, about the time the human body's immune system adapts and sends t cells to attack the invading bacterium, the disease has mutated many times, rendering our defenses weak and useless thus the many deaths recorded in history. How did we survive the perfect killing machine if not by the hand of a divine being?
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^^^THIS^^^

I agree completely. On top of that I have been miraculously healed of several things by Him.
Have also worked with and seen the divine healing power of God. If you are a willing and submitted vessel God will use you for His glory.
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heres my question. With all that man has endured thru nature, the most puzzling is this how did man survive the ravages of plague. There is no explanation. The knowledge of epideology would suggests that mankind should have faded into extinction a long time ago, and yet we are still here. The nature of disease is to invade the body and destroy it, about the time the human body's immune system adapts and sends t cells to attack the invading bacterium, the disease has mutated many times, rendering our defenses weak and useless thus the many deaths recorded in history. How did we survive the perfect killing machine if not by the hand of a divine being?
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It's clear from the terminology you use that you don't actually know what you are talking about. Plague? Perfect killing machine? The Black Plague killed about 1/3 of Europeans, several hundred years ago. The other 2/3 survived and the Human Race became stronger.
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Currently there is no evidence either way for intelligent design of the universe.

Chaos Theory may make it impossible for a watch to assemble itself by random shaking, but it does allow for order to come out of chaos that leads to rules of the universe.

The forces and physics of the universe are products of chaos, in more than just a few theorists/mathematicians minds/equations a logical order and limited 'laws' to how everything works must take place, thus out of chaos comes some order for a limited period of time, then it all must fall apart again.

We just happen to be living at a period of time in the universe (billions of years old) where there are rules and laws leading to the formation of more complex structures and forms.

Nothing in the universe points at there being a creator an intelligent designer.

There is one exception to this rule. The Big Bang.

We don't know why it happened. As far as our known physics and maths can take us, it shouldn't have happened. While we have a few nifty theories why it could happen, we do not have any way to gather the information we need to prove or disprove those theories thus the question why the big bang remains unanswerable to us.

The 'it just so happens' or 'coincidence' factor is an illusion. While we can imagine the universe running under different laws and we assume/guess that it can work otherwise, the reality is that it doesn't thus it only appears to be 'coincidence' that things have turned out the way they did. For all we know there is no other way that a universe can form other than the way we know it.

And, by that same token, it remains possible - highly possible, that there is an intelligent force that started it all off and set into place the laws and rules at the moment of the big bang.

Just because science can look at a thing and not rely on the old 'Because that's the way God made it' to explain a thing doesn't mean there is no God. It only means we are using rationality to attempt to explain something.

Science is on the same search for truth as religion. They are both heading for the same goal, its just that they are taking different paths to reach it.

Most likely once we peer behind the veil of the Big Bang Event we will see God smiling back at us.
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I think placing ones faith in science alone is a bad mistake.
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The 2 are getting closer. Scientist now say that the entire Universe consists of approx. 10% visible (physical) and 90% invisible, which they term as 'dark matter/dark energy.' The word "dark" does not mean evil, it means invisible to the naked eye. They claim this dark matter/energy has consciousness and is capable of communicating with us. When we examine who and what we truly are, surprisingly we too are 10% visible (physical) and 90% invisible (spiritual). I'm beginning to think that maybe the ancient sages were talking about this dark matter when they used the term "Holy Spirit."
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And there is simply no evidence for it. There might be a God, but there is no evidence for it.
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What exactly do you call a naturally inexplicable universe, life, and human consciousness?

The evidence is literally right under your nose, but you're viewing the world through the NATURALIST FAITH, and you don't even realize it.

You're not skeptical, you're faithful.
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I am skeptical towards the supernatural explanation due to a lack of evidence.

Science studies the laws of nature. You are proposing that there is something outside of the bounds of these laws which we can't measure but created these natural laws. Laws, which by the way, you reject. i.e. evolution.

Everything that you view as evidence of God is based on natural laws.
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Exactly, you have a rigid faith in natural laws (or naturalism) as the ultimate explanation for everything.

The logical problem of where these natural laws originated, is not fathomable to you. You've closed your mind off to such questions because asking them violates your faith.

Micro-Evolution is an observable fact. It is a pure assumption that "millions of years" removes the barriers that we observe daily. Macro-Evolution is not even a working theory.

Nobody rejects Natural Laws of which its effects can be measured or observed. And Macro-Evolution is certainly not one of these.

Natural origin is based on total Faith, and remains irrational and inexplicable according to the natural laws of Science itself.
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Sticking to facts does not equal having faith.

I can easily imagine a God creating natural laws. It does not require any effort at all as it is the most simplistic explanation ever. Unfortunately, I have thoughts and questions.

The problem is that you can not differentiate speculation and fact. You are speculating that there is a supernatural being which created these natural laws but there is nothing to substantiate that idea.

Evolution does not need to be split in micro or macro. It is the same process. Macro explains the branching and micro explains the changes within a branch. Micro leads to macro.

Evolution is a fact, deal with it.

A number of years ago, creationists rejected the big bang. Now they claim God sparked the big bang.

This will happen with evolution as well.
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And the "top minds" of the academic world have consistently reiterated that organic life and the universe itself simply defies naturalism..
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For example?

Not to mention there are plenty of prestigious scientists that staunchly defend Creationism. They are censored.
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Again, some examples, please?
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Hundreds of scientists in relevant fields listed here. And there are many more.

[link to wiki.answers.com]

Not to mention the untold thousands that fear backlash to their careers.



Here's a lecture from Dr. Gordon Wilson explaining exactly why scientists have no problem questioning Macro-Evolution.

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Evolution is a fact, deal with it.
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Nope. Macro-Evolution is NOT a fact. Many qualified scientists from major universities practicing in relevant fields dissent from it.

Deal with it.

You've been subscribing to a faith labeled science. Wakey wakey time.
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spontaneous creatoin of a MODERN dna is next to impossible, yes. but spontaneous creation of the first primitive dna's, which later evolved into more and more complex forms? not so impossible.
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leave scientific speculation to the scientists, 'k?

If you want to know if God is real, unharden your heart and ask Him directly with full honesty.
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fill your heart full of the blindest naievety, you mean

Jesus was recorded by most historians of the time.
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thre was nothing at all, NOTHING AT ALL, recorded about Jesus until 70 A.D. why is that?

There is no evidence for any other gods.
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why do people of other religions also say their prayers are answered? isn't that evidence of their gods?

What makes you think it's a higher power though and not just the way energy works?
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what makes them think that nature couldn't have naturally created itself? or, that it had always existed and was not created? they say it had to come from somewhere, but then they say their god didn't have to be created, it always existed. why not say nature always existed? that makes more sense than a god that always existed and created everything.

But critical look through nature would conclude either there is no designer or the designer is not intelligent.
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best answer IMO

Indeed, many people testify to having the experience of being saved by Jesus Christ, and having their lives changes radically in a short amount of time.

Couple this with extremely strong historical evidence, and we are looking at a phenomena that you can not simply pass off as some mass delusion.
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can be said about any religion.

The evidence for God is clear and overwhelming, it is all around you, it is right in front of your eyes.
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only if you want to use "God did it" for everything you can't understand. what a useful delusion.

Science proves most scientists are wrong or lie to keep getting grant money.
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who proves that? scientists? or biased people with a religion to sell?

There might be a God, but there is no evidence for it.
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I thought God wanted to hide from everybody and let them decide for themselves. but he has to drop hints so the ones who are convinced can persuade everybody else?

And can you point to a design in nature that doesn't work? Do you realize how amazing it is that everything works in the first place and shares endless symbiotic relationships?
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the ones that didn't work, died off. duh

What exactly do you call a naturally inexplicable universe, life, and human consciousness?
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what is wrong with saying we still don't know?

There are strong logical inferences to God. One of them being that Naturalism fails miserably to account for even a working theory of the origins of anything.
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not at all. biology is a coherent science. physics is a coherent science. science has explained where everything came from, from the time of the Big Bang, right up to today. they don't know where the Big Bang came from but so what? does not annul the rest of their findings. why do christians say one fly in the ointment (and a forgiuveable one) ruins everything about science, but refuse to allow thousands of inconsistencies and falsehoods to scrap their theory of God? because they have a religion to sell.

And the "top minds" of the academic world have consistently reiterated that organic life and the universe itself simply defies naturalism..
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utter bullshit

Science studies the laws of nature. You are proposing that there is something outside of the bounds of these laws which we can't measure but created these natural laws. Laws, which by the way, you reject. i.e. evolution.
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and this Supreme Being, outside the laws of physics, has a human body, lives in the clouds, sits on a throne, and likes the smell of roasting goat meat.

With all that man has endured thru nature, the most puzzling is this how did man survive the ravages of plague. There is no explanation.
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because the plague didn't happen to everyone, didn't have a 100% mortality rate, and yes the plague did die out when its hosts died out. otherwise it would still be around today.

Exactly, you have a rigid faith in natural laws (or naturalism) as the ultimate explanation for everything.

The logical problem of where these natural laws originated, is not fathomable to you. You've closed your mind off to such questions because asking them violates your faith.
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exactly the opposite. you have a rigid faith in your god as the explanatioin for everything. you have closed your mind to everything else, except what you are forced to admit. you would still think that demons cause illness, except now it's too silly not to admit that germs cause illness. and who discovered that? not christians!

how about when the church arrested whoever said the earth revolved around the sun, instead of what the bible said, that the earth was the center of the universe?

Have also worked with and seen the divine healing power of God. If you are a willing and submitted vessel God will use you for His glory.
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same things said about Apollo, Jehovah, Allah, Vishnu, and other religions. besides, if God is Catholic, then Protestants deserve no miracles. if God is Protestant, then Catholics get no miracles. why do both Catholics and Protestants say God grants them miracles, yet the other (protestant/catholic) has it all wrong and they don't know what they are doing? so bad that God damsn them to hell? why would God grant them miracles? he wouldn't according to them.

A number of years ago, creationists rejected the big bang. Now they claim God sparked the big bang.

This will happen with evolution as well.
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exactly

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Evolution is a fact, deal with it.
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Nope. Macro-Evolution is NOT a fact. Many qualified scientists from major universities practicing in relevant fields dissent from it.

Deal with it.

You've been subscribing to a faith labeled science. Wakey wakey time.
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Here is a list of 1224 relevant scientists called Steve who are evolutionists.

[link to ncse.com]
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Except that every living thing has DNA, and things like rocks and aluminium siding don't.

Geez, DNA isn't essential to life? That's pretty ridiculous.

Maybe you're just extremely ignorant?:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Every living thing in the current era and on this planet. That's an extremely small sample in the overall scheme of things.
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Hundreds of scientists in relevant fields listed here. And there are many more.

[link to wiki.answers.com]

Not to mention the untold thousands that fear backlash to their careers.
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Half of those people are either not scientists or not in fields relevant to evolution. Dentist? Aerospace engineer? Veterinarian? You're really reaching.

As someone else has pointed out already, there are over a thousand legitimate scientists just named "Steve" who support the modern theory of evolution.
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Evolution is a fact, deal with it.
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Nope. Macro-Evolution is NOT a fact. Many qualified scientists from major universities practicing in relevant fields dissent from it.

Deal with it.

You've been subscribing to a faith labeled science. Wakey wakey time.
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Here is a list of 1224 relevant scientists called Steve who are evolutionists.

[link to ncse.com]
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lOl

That is an awesome initiative.
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I think intelligent design is more plausible than not. What says you?
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Oh have you missed that it's all swineientifically proven?
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Just because you don't know the answer, that's not evidence that some random speculation is true.
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Then why do you believe in natural origins based on pure speculation?

We have seen, for instance, evolution in species, we have seen geologic process, evidence for a big bang, etc.etc. etc.
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You've seen evidence for small micro variations in species. The rest goes on pure assumption. Big Bang is evidence that the universe had a beginning and a singular source. (It's too bad the Naturalists couldn't hold onto that "universe without beginning or end" hypothesis." Now they're stuck holding the silly "something from nothing" bag)

We have seen NO evidence for god. At all.
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If you're practicing faith in Naturalism, you will not accept anything as evidence for God. Try a little skepticism of your own faith.
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There's SOME evidence for scientific origin theories and NO evidence for god based theories. Try having higher standards than: I can't explain it, or understand the explanations, ergo, God did it.
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There is NO evidence for a naturalistic origin of the Universe. There is every bit of evidence of an ordered intelligence (call it God if you will) creating the universe.

Scientists have always been baffled by the uncanny ability of mathematics to describe the universe. Eugene Wigner famously noted mathematics "unreasonable effectiveness" and called it a "miracle", the uncanny connection between mathematics and the physical.

Nothing odd with mathematics, its the silly and quaint naturalistic model we have of the universe that is dead WRONG - a bunch of atoms and shit colliding around, randomly forming into a universe, randomly and spontaneously forming into life in a magical primordial pool, and out of pure randomness evolving into creatures creating the symphonies of Mozart. LOL how fucking retarded.

You see, the universe IS mathematics. It IS law and order. In the beginning was the Word. It certainly is not little particles bouncing around, that is myth, that is the speculative model which has no evidence behind it.

Research Riemann zeta functions, and its strange connection to quantum energy levels. How in the fuck in the world does the distribution of abstract prime numbers exactly correlate to the quantum energy levels of atoms??? You must ask yourself this.
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heres my question. With all that man has endured thru nature, the most puzzling is this how did man survive the ravages of plague. There is no explanation. The knowledge of epideology would suggests that mankind should have faded into extinction a long time ago, and yet we are still here. The nature of disease is to invade the body and destroy it, about the time the human body's immune system adapts and sends t cells to attack the invading bacterium, the disease has mutated many times, rendering our defenses weak and useless thus the many deaths recorded in history. How did we survive the perfect killing machine if not by the hand of a divine being?
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Nice straw man you're building there - since when is plague the perfect killing machine? It didnt kill us off, QED its not a perfect killing machine.

Main problem with this line of thought is that the "designer" must have designed that bacterium too. And it designed us to be suseptible to it. Same applies through out nature, for every symiotic relation theres another conflicting struggle between species. What are extinctions, failed designs? But why design something and not fix the faults, instead leaving it to fail?

ID fails. Want the best example why? you. You're quite weak, you cant run very fast, have limited hearing and smell compared to many mammals. You cant even see in the dark, or see infra red or ultraviolet. Poor design. Fail all over.
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Hundreds of scientists in relevant fields listed here. And there are many more.

[link to wiki.answers.com]

Not to mention the untold thousands that fear backlash to their careers.
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Half of those people are either not scientists or not in fields relevant to evolution. Dentist? Aerospace engineer? Veterinarian? You're really reaching.

As someone else has pointed out already, there are over a thousand legitimate scientists just named "Steve" who support the modern theory of evolution.
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Um, take another look at the number of Biologists, Chemists, Paleontologists, Physicists, Geologists, Botanists, Geneticists, Zoologists etc. or other Nautral Scientists are in that list. It is the vast majority.

Out of the hundreds displayed you picked out the one? veterinarian, dentist, and engineer? Well thanks for showing your hand.

And I only posted that list because a naturalist asked for examples of scientists that question macro-evolution. And it is safe to assume there are plenty more that do not wish to go on record.

Yes, Mr. Obvious, there is a MAJORITY CONSENSUS about Macro-Evolution. That's why we are seeing intellectual censorship of any scientist who questions it.

Are you making the claim that Science is Democratic? I think you are.



Here's a lecture by Dr. Gordon Wilson explaining in detail why Scientists have no problem questioning Macro-Evolution.

Watch it and weep for your naturalism faith.
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Hundreds of scientists in relevant fields listed here. And there are many more.

[link to wiki.answers.com]

Not to mention the untold thousands that fear backlash to their careers.
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Half of those people are either not scientists or not in fields relevant to evolution. Dentist? Aerospace engineer? Veterinarian? You're really reaching.

As someone else has pointed out already, there are over a thousand legitimate scientists just named "Steve" who support the modern theory of evolution.
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Um, take another look at the number of Biologists, Chemists, Paleontologists, Physicists, Geologists, Botanists, Geneticists, Zoologists etc. or other Nautral Scientists are in that list. It is the vast majority.

Out of the hundreds displayed you picked out the one? veterinarian, dentist, and engineer? Well thanks for showing your hand.

And I only posted that list because a naturalist asked for examples of scientists that question macro-evolution. And it is safe to assume there are plenty more that do not wish to go on record.

Yes, Mr. Obvious, there is a MAJORITY CONSENSUS about Macro-Evolution. That's why we are seeing intellectual censorship of any scientist who questions it.

Are you making the claim that Science is Democratic? I think you are.



Here's a lecture by Dr. Gordon Wilson explaining in detail why Scientists have no problem questioning Macro-Evolution.

Watch it and weep for your naturalism faith.
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Science is very democratic, thats how it works. Answers are made to be questioned and modeled and tested. Not like religion where the only answers are 'god did it' and 'satan did it'.
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If there is intelligent design aka, GOD...

We need to understand that GOD is evidence of science, not the other way around. He invented it, that is the plain simple truth. Everything in science yet unproven is referred to as a theory. MOST important things are still only theories. GOD is the best explanation as of yet for anything you can dream up. And GOD asks us to come to him "as a child" and with only the "faith of a mustard seed". Trust and believe... pure love prevails

OH... and I wanted to add that I am a real science-tard too. BUT if there is a GOD he is the author of it. That does not mean that science is irrelevant because of GOD. Likewise, I believe that until proven one way or the other, scientists should not consider GOD irrelevant because of science. It only makes scientific sense to leave it as a theory until proven otherwise.

ALSO no matter the faith Catholic, Baptist, Jewish, Jehovah...whatever....he is the GOD of them all. That is why prayers are answered to all who ask.

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If there is intelligent design aka, GOD...

We need to understand that GOD is evidence of science, not the other way around. He invented it, that is the plain simple truth. Everything in science yet unproven is referred to as a theory. MOST important things are still only theories. GOD is the best explanation as of yet for anything you can dream up. And GOD asks us to come to him "as a child" and with only the "faith of a mustard seed". Trust and believe... pure love prevails
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YOU are the scientific evidence. Please name ANYTHING complex that has come into existence by accident. The universe is nothing but a set of rules. There has to be a rule maker.
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If there is intelligent design aka, GOD...

We need to understand that GOD is evidence of science, not the other way around. He invented it, that is the plain simple truth. Everything in science yet unproven is referred to as a theory. MOST important things are still only theories. GOD is the best explanation as of yet for anything you can dream up. And GOD asks us to come to him "as a child" and with only the "faith of a mustard seed". Trust and believe... pure love prevails
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YOU are the scientific evidence. Please name ANYTHING complex that has come into existence by accident. The universe is nothing but a set of rules. There has to be a rule maker.
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my argument was FOR GOD, not against...so I agree with you
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I think intelligent design is more plausible than not. What says you?
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yah. and as far as human science tho, lol, it's so quaint what the mainstream scientists come up with, how could they possibly be able to determine something as wild as the Primal Spirit?
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If there is intelligent design aka, GOD...

We need to understand that GOD is evidence of science, not the other way around. He invented it, that is the plain simple truth. Everything in science yet unproven is referred to as a theory. MOST important things are still only theories. GOD is the best explanation as of yet for anything you can dream up. And GOD asks us to come to him "as a child" and with only the "faith of a mustard seed". Trust and believe... pure love prevails
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YOU are the scientific evidence. Please name ANYTHING complex that has come into existence by accident. The universe is nothing but a set of rules. There has to be a rule maker.
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my argument was FOR GOD, not against...so I agree with you
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My bad, hit quote by mistake.
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I think intelligent design is more plausible than not. What says you?
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Engineered evolution.
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If there is intelligent design aka, GOD...

We need to understand that GOD is evidence of science, not the other way around. He invented it, that is the plain simple truth. Everything in science yet unproven is referred to as a theory. MOST important things are still only theories. GOD is the best explanation as of yet for anything you can dream up. And GOD asks us to come to him "as a child" and with only the "faith of a mustard seed". Trust and believe... pure love prevails
 Quoting: Scarbedazzles


YOU are the scientific evidence. Please name ANYTHING complex that has come into existence by accident. The universe is nothing but a set of rules. There has to be a rule maker.
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my argument was FOR GOD, not against...so I agree with you
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My bad, hit quote by mistake.
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hf no worries
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Out of the hundreds displayed you picked out the one? veterinarian, dentist, and engineer? Well thanks for showing your hand.
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Hundreds? Well, 209. (I pasted it into Excel and counted.)

And among them we have:
Psychologist
Electrical engineer
Another psychologist
Chemical engineer
Statistician
Aeronautical engineer
Mechanical engineer
DVM
Dentist
Two aeronautics engineers
Mathematician
Educator
Operations researcher
Medical researcher
Information scientist
Chemist
Another chemist
Food scientist
Philospher
Satellite communications engineer
Engineer
Another mathematician
Hydrometallurgist (I didn't make that up)
Plastic surgeon
Another mathematician
Vet/agriculture expert
Eye disease researcher
Aerodynamicist
Internist
Geographer
Another educator
Architect
Nuclear engineer
Another philosopher
Linguist
Medical practitioner (is he not even a doctor?)
Plastic surgeon
Anesthetist
Another aeronautics engineer
Another educator
Another food scientist
Another engineer
Computer scientist
Educator
Engineer
Theologian
Engineer
Two mechanical engineers
Historian

That's 51 either non-scientists or scientists whose fields have nothing to do with evolution (and I'm being generous because I got tired of typing). So easily at least a fourth of your list is bogus.





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