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I am a victim of SRA / Mind Control / MK-Ultra

 
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And I don't mean the religion. That is more programming.

Awareness protects. Have no fear. You are never alone. (in a good way. : D)
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And I don't mean the religion. That is more programming.

Awareness protects. Have no fear. You are never alone. (in a good way. : D)
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Lol, because we've already gotten enough of the creepy way? ;)
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It's not about religion. It never has been. It's about your/our need for a Savior. GOD. The Lord Jesus Christ.

There is no Savior without GOD.

Whom ever shall call upon the name of The Lord will be saved.
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It's not about religion. It never has been. It's about your/our need for a Savior. GOD. The Lord Jesus Christ.

There is no Savior without GOD.

Whom ever shall call upon the name of The Lord will be saved.
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Did you know that Jesus Christ and Gods are parts of a religion? In fact, they're quite central to them.
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It's not about religion. It never has been. It's about your/our need for a Savior. GOD. The Lord Jesus Christ.

There is no Savior without GOD.

Whom ever shall call upon the name of The Lord will be saved.
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Did you know that Jesus Christ and Gods are parts of a religion? In fact, they're quite central to them.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


Not if you listen to Jesus Christ who is our Savior.

This is what He said....
James 1:27
27 Pure religion, undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
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So...

Are going to believe what the world says religion is or Jesus...?
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What He is saying is in line with the 2nd commandment.

Love your neighbor as yourself.
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Do unto others as you who have them do unto you.
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True acts of love without wanting anything in return.
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i never understand all the posters who say this,why do you assume we havn't allready chosen Christ? or is it that God's special people never get hurt or ill?
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Discernment. People who know the truth aren't (shouldn't be) seeking counsel from psychics or anyone else who speaks falsely against The Lord.

And as you refer to us as "GOD'S Special People". Yes, He does care deeply for us. And I would rather be in the good graces of The Lord, than be in the path of His righteous wrath.

And if you truly knew this and what The Lord is capable of, you wouldn't want to be either.

And what is really sad is people do not know or understand that GOD loves us so much. So much that He sent Jesus Christ to give people the truth.

How do your children know you love them...? Is it because you tell them everyday or do they see it by what you do everyday...?

Love is more than just a feeling. It involves action. It is not lip service.

How about your spouse...? Does she know you love her by what you say or is it by what she does...?

This is why it is important to know the truth from a "reliable" source. The only person qualified to give such information. Jesus Christ.

Because if you do not know and you find yourself in need. As in a certain unusual situation, who can you trust...? Your family thinks your nuts. Everyone and everything seems to be attacking you and your faith (if you have faith). Your world seems to have just taken a complete 180 and nothing seems right. Your scared to death and it's a miracle itself that you have not died of an heart-attack. The things that are happening, you can't run and tell anyone because they wouldn't believe you anyway. And the very people who you thought you could trust are the very same people who are shooting fiery darts.

Your left all alone. No one to turn to. And it doesn't matter where you go or what you are doing. You just want it to stop. To go away. You want your life back.

You just want the truth. You want comfort. You want forgiveness. You want mercy.

You pray and you think your prayers go unheard. You can't sleep and if you do, it isn't good sleep. You constantly have thoughts running through your head all day.

You think you are going nuts because you know it isn't right. But your not. So you just keep going through it. You keep praying. Another sleepless night. Another late night infomercial. You try and cram everything in a short period of time by reading the Bible. Watching TV Evangelists. And no matter what, it is still happening. But you keep your faith and continue to pray. No matter what, GOD'S will be done.

I can tell you that anyone who is trusting in GOD. And The Lord Jesus Christ. There faith will not be in vain.

Stay faithful to what you believe and whom you trust in. Don't let them brake your faith. Whether it be your family, Doctors, Counselors, Physicians, other people who claim to be christians (the enemy comes as an angel of light)but you know something isn't right....

The enemy knows when to kick you when you are down. But The Lord is able to make you stand.

Think about this....

Who is the enemy attacking...? And why...?

Take heart.
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It really is a struggle to know who to trust for 'truth'. I am not so sure everyone is looking to serve the cult, but so many people who pretend to bring 'truth' could be misinformation or the actual evil. I think this goes in both directions. People either bring us what appears to be sought after information that we desire to hear it, or they bring us spectacular information we never want to hear. Either way we have to test them.

I think the religious aspects of what we call Christianity are horrible but there is much to be said for Ghandi's quote "I like your Christ, just not your Christians". It seems it was twisted from the very beginning.

I would say that one of Christ's own teachings would be the best way to look for trustworthy people. "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" I think this was his way of telling us how to identify misinformation.

Be careful of anyone who has 'all the answers'.

Keep up your strength OP and know that with the strength of God and perseverance you can prevail.
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Luke 10 25:37

The Parable of the Good Samaritan

25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”

27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[a]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’”

28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”

29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?”

30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32 So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34 He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. 35 The next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’

36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”

37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”
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There is a difference between spirituality and religion.
If you religious people could just change your language a bit, and stop incessantly using Jesus or God, then more people would be open to what you have to say.
Use more of the language of meta-physics, or quantum physics, to explain what you mean.

Eg: if you meditate long enough, you will enter the quantum field of all possibility. We are mostly space and only a small percentage of matter. That space is made up of potential. This potential matter is profoundly influenced by thought (electricity) and emotion (magnetism). When we visualize the reality that we want to have happen, we send out an electromagnetic charge (clear picture-thought accompanied by a deep, heart felt emotion of gratitude for example). That has an impact upon the field. The more you send those electromagnetic impulses out into the field, the more that you pull that 'reality' back towards you.

lol Now that I have written it, it sounds as loony as 'trust in Christ'.
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There is a difference between spirituality and religion.
If you religious people could just change your language a bit, and stop incessantly using Jesus or God, then more people would be open to what you have to say.
Use more of the language of meta-physics, or quantum physics, to explain what you mean.

Eg: if you meditate long enough, you will enter the quantum field of all possibility. We are mostly space and only a small percentage of matter. That space is made up of potential. This potential matter is profoundly influenced by thought (electricity) and emotion (magnetism). When we visualize the reality that we want to have happen, we send out an electromagnetic charge (clear picture-thought accompanied by a deep, heart felt emotion of gratitude for example). That has an impact upon the field. The more you send those electromagnetic impulses out into the field, the more that you pull that 'reality' back towards you.

lol Now that I have written it, it sounds as loony as 'trust in Christ'.
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I'll take your version of loony any day over bible reciters.
hf
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There is a difference between spirituality and religion.
If you religious people could just change your language a bit, and stop incessantly using Jesus or God, then more people would be open to what you have to say.
Use more of the language of meta-physics, or quantum physics, to explain what you mean.

Eg: if you meditate long enough, you will enter the quantum field of all possibility. We are mostly space and only a small percentage of matter. That space is made up of potential. This potential matter is profoundly influenced by thought (electricity) and emotion (magnetism). When we visualize the reality that we want to have happen, we send out an electromagnetic charge (clear picture-thought accompanied by a deep, heart felt emotion of gratitude for example). That has an impact upon the field. The more you send those electromagnetic impulses out into the field, the more that you pull that 'reality' back towards you.

lol Now that I have written it, it sounds as loony as 'trust in Christ'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8946364


The difference is that Jesus Christ is the real deal. GOD is real. A man really was crucified over 2000 years ago and was sent into this world to give truth.

The absolute truth about GOD and to distinguish that was which of man and that which is of GOD.

If you truly believe Jesus Christ is your Savior and you really listen to what He had to say. His message is like no other. It is freeing. It is powerful. It is what the enemy does not want you to know. Because them enemy wants you to be a slave to religion.

The things Jesus taught and spoke of are the very things we all know within our own hearts to do. And by doing these things that we aught already to know, we show love for GOD. To the best of our understanding. And by doing these things, The Lord says we will know.

What sets Jesus apart from any other is He never denied GOD. Not once. There was never any question about it. He said the world must know that He loves His Father.

He spoke truth of GOD in a world that needed the truth. To a world enslaved by false religions and false gods.
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There is a difference between spirituality and religion.
If you religious people could just change your language a bit, and stop incessantly using Jesus or God, then more people would be open to what you have to say.
Use more of the language of meta-physics, or quantum physics, to explain what you mean.

Eg: if you meditate long enough, you will enter the quantum field of all possibility. We are mostly space and only a small percentage of matter. That space is made up of potential. This potential matter is profoundly influenced by thought (electricity) and emotion (magnetism). When we visualize the reality that we want to have happen, we send out an electromagnetic charge (clear picture-thought accompanied by a deep, heart felt emotion of gratitude for example). That has an impact upon the field. The more you send those electromagnetic impulses out into the field, the more that you pull that 'reality' back towards you.

lol Now that I have written it, it sounds as loony as 'trust in Christ'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8946364


'Trust in Christ' can be more specific though, such as his teachings. Leaning on his everlasting words; or the truths that he spoke.

There is definitely a spiritual battle, but we wage it here on earth. This means that we have some application that we can use in our daily life. Not being vengeful isn't about being a victim, but about being at peace, and knowing that God will punish those who do us wrong. Also, recognizing that evil is on this earth and is out to get us lets us know what we are up against. We have to always hold on to the anchor that at we have tested to be truth, so that when the wind picks up we can withstand the evil one. I think it is hard to find the anchor once the storm begins, so that is why we must find it and hold on. It doesn't mean we blindly hold on either. So many good people can be deceived and Jesus teaches humility so that we may not also be those good people who are deceived by evil. Humility means that we will subject ourselves to the truth, no matter how painful and be willing to let go of our stubbornness despite shame and difficulty. God will provide fellowship and encouragement if you ask for it.

I pray for truth. I will pray for strength for anyone who faces this monster, they should know they are not alone in facing evil, it comes in all forms.

We all face our own monsters of the evil one's lies. When I feel alone is when
I turn to God for strength. He has moved mountains in my life and not because of anything I did.
hf

Life is a struggle of truth and lies. Truth always wins.
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Get a savior. It might seem unnecessary, but when the time comes, you don't want to end up in a police station trying to explain that you don't remember your maniac rampage through a movie theater. If you don't have an upbringing and education with Christianity, your almost totally screwed, so just submit to their will, and your life will appear to turn out great, no need to be forgiven, nobody to answer to. They don't want christians for any other reason than it makes you a toy for their amusement, but it still beats becoming Satans puppet. Every close family member I know became an out of the closet athiest or alternative religion follower, only after they made their mark and aquired wealth, status, title, by incorporating bad stuff that messed other people up, into their mascarade, or they would still be flailing about floundering and in all appearance total failures like me. Eventuaslly, it's as if they can no longer keep up their deception and lie that they are faithfull. You really gotta be some kind of fallen angel in the making to keep the disguise from coming off. People that can pull it off for their entire lives, sometimes stumble on the sin combinations by accident through experimentation, and the only other common methods are through evil texts, rituals and clubs that teach it to their members, who get bound, and can't escape the bonds, when they enter into the rites that take them down the road to Hell in service to Lucifer.
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And what you guys aren't understanding is that just like you who challenge the religious with there beliefs. Jesus Christ did the exact same thing to every religious person to date.

He questioned the religious with there beliefs. The Sadduccees and The Pharisees. The ones who put heavy burdens on the backs of other but they themselves where not fit to carry.

People living in fear because of religious laws that were never GOD'S.

And Jesus spoke the truth about this. And they wanted to kill Him. Yes, the religious people killed Him. And Jesus never uttered one blasphemous word. Not about GOD, nor about them.
And as He suffered on the cross. He prayed for them. He loved them so much. He loved them so much that He took the punishment that was not rightfully His but made it His. To show How much He loved them.

If they only knew how much GOD loves them. But He won't tolerate sin. And The Lord has made reconciliation for this Himself. Like He said He would. Because He loves us so much.

Why are you making it more complicated than it has to be...?

Just listen to Him and know in your heart that what He is saying is the truth and know that He is good.
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There is a difference between spirituality and religion.
If you religious people could just change your language a bit, and stop incessantly using Jesus or God, then more people would be open to what you have to say.
Use more of the language of meta-physics, or quantum physics, to explain what you mean.

Eg: if you meditate long enough, you will enter the quantum field of all possibility. We are mostly space and only a small percentage of matter. That space is made up of potential. This potential matter is profoundly influenced by thought (electricity) and emotion (magnetism). When we visualize the reality that we want to have happen, we send out an electromagnetic charge (clear picture-thought accompanied by a deep, heart felt emotion of gratitude for example). That has an impact upon the field. The more you send those electromagnetic impulses out into the field, the more that you pull that 'reality' back towards you.

lol Now that I have written it, it sounds as loony as 'trust in Christ'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8946364


'Trust in Christ' can be more specific though, such as his teachings. Leaning on his everlasting words; or the truths that he spoke.

There is definitely a spiritual battle, but we wage it here on earth. This means that we have some application that we can use in our daily life. Not being vengeful isn't about being a victim, but about being at peace, and knowing that God will punish those who do us wrong. Also, recognizing that evil is on this earth and is out to get us lets us know what we are up against. We have to always hold on to the anchor that at we have tested to be truth, so that when the wind picks up we can withstand the evil one. I think it is hard to find the anchor once the storm begins, so that is why we must find it and hold on. It doesn't mean we blindly hold on either. So many good people can be deceived and Jesus teaches humility so that we may not also be those good people who are deceived by evil. Humility means that we will subject ourselves to the truth, no matter how painful and be willing to let go of our stubbornness despite shame and difficulty. God will provide fellowship and encouragement if you ask for it.

I pray for truth. I will pray for strength for anyone who faces this monster, they should know they are not alone in facing evil, it comes in all forms.

We all face our own monsters of the evil one's lies. When I feel alone is when
I turn to God for strength. He has moved mountains in my life and not because of anything I did.
hf

Life is a struggle of truth and lies. Truth always wins.
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Amen..!!!! And thank you.
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lol, you guys aren't getting it.
how do you know what jesus said or didn't say? how do you know he actually existed, and wasn't a consortium of souls?

your concept is almost there, except there is no judgement beyond the physical realm. take the human characteristics out of 'god', and see it more as a force/power. it's like a current (of love/light/energy etc) that moves through everything. that is everything. that wants every part of itself to 'wake up' and remember its own connection to the vastness that it is. but it allows everything. everything/everyone/all energetic signatures are on their own evolutionary path.

besides, all of this is hijacking this worthy thread. let's get it back on track.
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lol, you guys aren't getting it.
how do you know what jesus said or didn't say? how do you know he actually existed, and wasn't a consortium of souls?

your concept is almost there, except there is no judgement beyond the physical realm. take the human characteristics out of 'god', and see it more as a force/power. it's like a current (of love/light/energy etc) that moves through everything. that is everything. that wants every part of itself to 'wake up' and remember its own connection to the vastness that it is. but it allows everything. everything/everyone/all energetic signatures are on their own evolutionary path.

besides, all of this is hijacking this worthy thread. let's get it back on track.
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Easy... Lets see what Jesus said.

John 7:17
If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
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Also...
John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.
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lol, you guys aren't getting it.
how do you know what jesus said or didn't say? how do you know he actually existed, and wasn't a consortium of souls?

your concept is almost there, except there is no judgement beyond the physical realm. take the human characteristics out of 'god', and see it more as a force/power. it's like a current (of love/light/energy etc) that moves through everything. that is everything. that wants every part of itself to 'wake up' and remember its own connection to the vastness that it is. but it allows everything. everything/everyone/all energetic signatures are on their own evolutionary path.

besides, all of this is hijacking this worthy thread. let's get it back on track.
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I agree that we need to be careful to not get sidetracked, but I know why I said what I said, and that is because there are other forms of evil out there that test us, and I am explaining how I endure.

I think there are people who may be going through similar struggles as OP and want to share where they get the strength to come through it. Just like you said about Jesus, truth can be elusive, and we must study to find it, same can be applied to this topic, everyone is throwing out what they found on Google about this topic, but how do you know you can trust these 'experts'. Oppression isn't enough to show their validity, many people suffer for lies as well as truth. I went down the spiritual path to find truth, finding good people who 'bore good fruit' and those are the people in my life that i can lean on. peace
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This opened my eyes.

[link to www.blinkx.com]
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I'm kind of in the same boat.
Just last week I turned in my family for a pedo ring.
They have defense contracts
Who knows the can of worms I opened.

I am staying in prayer and watching my back.
I don't trust anyone right now.
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I agree that we need to be careful to not get sidetracked, but I know why I said what I said, and that is because there are other forms of evil out there that test us, and I am explaining how I endure.

I think there are people who may be going through similar struggles as OP and want to share where they get the strength to come through it. Just like you said about Jesus, truth can be elusive, and we must study to find it, same can be applied to this topic, everyone is throwing out what they found on Google about this topic, but how do you know you can trust these 'experts'. Oppression isn't enough to show their validity, many people suffer for lies as well as truth. I went down the spiritual path to find truth, finding good people who 'bore good fruit' and those are the people in my life that i can lean on. peace
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That is wonderful but I'm not sure you actually been through such situations to know what He may be experiencing. And if you surround yourself with people who bare good fruit. That is wonderful.

But there are people who know and understand who are of The Lord and are trying to help. And the best way I know how is to tell Him the Good News of Jesus Christ and that there is hope. I know, because The Lord had mercy and compassion on me. And I have a testimony because of it. I have spoken very little of what i have experienced and what i said is true.
I have nothing to gain from this. Only my willingness to help out a friend in need of Jesus Christ.

I have experienced it and GOD saved me from it and let me know it. Saved my life through it.I have done nothing but tell the truth about The Lord Jesus Christ.

I know you mean well but so do I. And if you are in doubt, I encourage to ask The Lord in prayer.

Much Love.
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1 Peter 4:12
Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you.
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GOD can help you more then you realize.

Seek Jesus Christ and know the truth.

Farewell Friend.
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I am trying to help you. I am not your enemy. f you want the truth. Seek Jesus Christ. Don't just believe what other's tell you. read and earn about Jesus for yourself.

With GOD, you do not have to live your life in fear. He is the truth and Savior you need.
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Exactly what this person said!! Man can only do so much to you. If you give your heart to Jesus and rest in Him, while man may be able to kill you and take your life here, they can't touch you for eternity. Death is just a peaceful sleep and in the twinkling of an eye, Jesus, your redeemer will come for you, but you have to accept His free gift, He won't force you to love Him.
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Well, that's this thread well and truly highjacked!
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Re: I am a victim of SRA / Mind Control / MK-Ultra
Well, that's this thread well and truly highjacked!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16439363


It's because OP said they were from a cult upbringing. The religious people saw an easy in: someone already trained to follow, just needs a little guidance to follow the "proper" leader...

It is what it is. 1dunno1

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