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I am a victim of SRA / Mind Control / MK-Ultra

 
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Well, that's this thread well and truly highjacked!
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It's because OP said they were from a cult upbringing. The religious people saw an easy in: someone already trained to follow, just needs a little guidance to follow the "proper" leader...

It is what it is. 1dunno1
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


The way I see it, OP was saying the cult upbringing was in the actions, not a religious or spiritual connotation. I mean if a family teaches a child the teachings of Jesus and violates these teaching with abuse there is no way you can call that a 'Christian' upbringing, or cult upbringing in the way you mention it.

OP, you said that both your family and the 'free-will' christians denied any evidence of ritual abuse. Are these the same people who then were involved in abuse? Its interesting that they would deny it and also perhaps be part of it.

Do you feel like their words have less influence on you as time passes? It seems like someone who didn't acknowledge the abuse would have less of an effect as a trigger. I'm not too well educated in the specific methods you speek of. It seems that as much as I study it only the general ideas are consistent from different people who write about it. I have no doubt there is strange stuff that goes on in the dark, I just hope for your sake that you weren't part of that.

OP, you said you would be happy to find out it was not ritual abuse, but instead a 'regular' (escuse the paraphrasing) abuse. Can you tell us what the distinguishing elements are? All abuse is terrible and can cause psychological trauma that doesn't surface for years. It is sad that we live in world that has even a small amount of people who would be willing to do such evil.

I hope my probing doesn't offend you, I'm just curious for truth's sake.
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Because if he was real about it, he would not be typing it.
 Quoting: Ephere


This goes to show how little you know.

One of the best things anyone that has had this happen to them, inflicted with the sickeness of other people, is speak openly about it. Then it loses all power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21656968


WORD TO THAT, BRO. The whole point of esotericism, the whole point of performing rituals under the cover of night, the whole point of building amnesia walls in one's mind to prevent their fronts from knowing the truth is secrecy. In secrets, they have power. They control what is unseen.

I WANT THE WORLD TO EFFING SEE IT.

Exposure frightens them more than anything. Exposure = failure, in their world.
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Note to anyone in a cult-run town: DO NOT go downtown and drink. Ever.
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Why? Explain this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18296291


Lol. That's all I did for years. The memories that have come back together are a mixture of fun fucked and what-the-fuck-was-that fucked.
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


I kinda thought that my word-to-the-wise was somewhat self-explanatory. There are some effed up folks in any downtown / night scene, and I swear, they can smell an unknowing slave miles away.

Friggin black magick a-holes.

dick
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...


Amazing isn't it, how a word can change everything...


hugs
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Keeping your word? :)
 Quoting: HimessiH


I would be a liar to say I wasn't trying. I will get past trying into doing, but it's still so early in the game, I'm stuck in the former.

Thank you for the encouragement / lighting the fire under my ass. I hope just hope this thread will help some others in my shoes, so they know they're not alone.
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U and me?
Should seriously chat
I have same "chicken pox scar uner my left eyebrow... An implant in my calf that looks like a cigarette burn w something inside u can feel moving around plus out of the blue randomly ( maybe 3 times) its gotten fiercly and intensly itchy from inside out.
I was adopted ... Who knows whata been dont to me but i saw a ufo in 1996 that started e down the path if truth
And i relaized i was terrified to sleep as a kid.. To the point i was nauseaus every single night before bed.. I would pace the toilet almost barfing but never did ..
Had to go to psychoatrist .. Who i remember gave me worry stone and put "egyptian musk" on it and made me smell it ..
I used to have a screen memory reoccuring nightmare of a wooden rooe swing going super FAST and thendead slow .. And in the transition from fast to slow i would wake up terrified .. Soaked in sweat .. Every night
Fact.
"They" the govt which IS aliens have been w me all along
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That whole implant thing would freak me out, man.

I would be interested in hearing more of your story...
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I went through something similar...am going through? Idk. Anyway, if you ever need to talk send me a message. No worries about god here...I'm pretty sure 99.9% of me has managed to come through as atheist ;)
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


hf

Thank you :) I am not really an atheist, but I'm still figuring out where I stand on the spiritual side of things. That doesn't mean I can't benefit from encouragement from a fellow survivor :) Thank you :hf:
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I just find it easier to avoid the most obvious and easiest sources of control...religion being at the forefront. It gives a clearer picture to sort through and I have enough puppet strings pulling at me already, and there's still enough mess as it is...especially in relationships where people might be playing more than one role. Ah, but now I sound like a lunatic :) welcome to the asylum.
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blwkss

I hear you.
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BE a Survivor...

wink



hf
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hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21165415


Amazing isn't it, how a word can change everything...


hugs
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I am a victim of SRA / Mind Control / MK-Ultra
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Are you going to be a "Victim"?
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I am working on being a survivor. :)
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...I prefer the word fighter :)
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yoda
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Apollo Illuminist shilled my thread?!
dancedancedance
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I think your thread must of triggered one of his alternate personalities, or his walk-in, Poor lad.

Like was said before, be a Survivor no matter who or what comes against you. You know who you are, be true to yourself.

Be strong and have faith sweetheart, things will get better trust me.


yoda
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cruise


I love these LOLs on such a dark topic'd thread. Thank you for that hf
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I am a victim of SRA / Mind Control / MK-Ultra
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Are you going to be a "Victim"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21656968


I am working on being a survivor. :)
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You are a survivor op,
so much is clear,accept yourself that you are..

best regards
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hf
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Fucking slut! Attention WHORE!
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Mentally Ill? Fuck you!

There are many cases were it is actually facts. Sure "kids" don't know jack, but when a grown adult becomes ready to face that which took them a lifetime to be able to face and you present this manipulative data as if it would discredit them. You have a can of pain come your way.

Be a real being and fess up to what you have done.

Mentally ill coming from secret socieities is rubbish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21656968


I never pointed to anyone specific, Youre a very poor reader in comprehension and quick to fly off the handle

I said in case history what happened in the 1980s was a mixture of hynotism, mental illness and mass hysteria to rule out any of us being victims of false accusations.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST



To OP: stay strong. some days are like a pressure cooker - some days are better. I have a small, select group of mk survivor friends - we pray for one another - talk -

Yes, I had to separate myself from everyone from my past. My life depended on it. It came at a great price.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11946116


Beautiful words :) Thank you.

But I have a question. How did you and your MK survivor friends get linked up in the social realm without some of the darker, cult-loyal alters trying to reach each other without your fronts realizing it? Were there ever problems with reporting alters tattling on one another to their respective cult groups?

"Phone home" programming can be really serious, and I often experience blackouts when one of these highly trains alters takes the wheel, even if it's only for a few minutes... seconds...

I've found phone calls on my phone that lasted literally 59 seconds, even though I not only don't remember even touching my phone, I am purposely avoiding being around it. I keep it in another room at all times.

I'm just curious about some of your experiences. I'm here to learn and absorb, too. That's what these kinds of forums are for, ya know :)
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Op can you move to a different city? If you live in a bigger city, you won't need a car as the public transit is usually better. And there might be more of your kind of survivor who have formed support groups. As well, you will be away from the grip of your brother and others who wish to control you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11698818


I moved to a bigger city a few years ago. After getting out of the military, my brother followed me here. As did a few of my cult-associated "friends." Both sets of parents (divorced/remarried) have been either trying to find a way to financially get down here, or are working toward it as we speak.

I am a little stuck right now. I drained my savings after abruptly quitting my CIA-front job/reprogramming site. I'm trying to get back on my feet before I can pick up and go again.

Trust me, all I want to do is go somewhere far, far away from here. These people are nucking futs.
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And I don't mean the religion. That is more programming.

Awareness protects. Have no fear. You are never alone. (in a good way. : D)
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hfhfhf

Shaking fear from one's heart, when it's been deep-rooted by years of trauma and dissociation is a task. Not impossible, but a major challenge. Thank you, so much, for the encouragement :) :) :)
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And I don't mean the religion. That is more programming.

Awareness protects. Have no fear. You are never alone. (in a good way. : D)
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Lol, because we've already gotten enough of the creepy way? ;)
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hiding

Basically lol
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There is a difference between spirituality and religion.
If you religious people could just change your language a bit, and stop incessantly using Jesus or God, then more people would be open to what you have to say.
Use more of the language of meta-physics, or quantum physics, to explain what you mean.

Eg: if you meditate long enough, you will enter the quantum field of all possibility. We are mostly space and only a small percentage of matter. That space is made up of potential. This potential matter is profoundly influenced by thought (electricity) and emotion (magnetism). When we visualize the reality that we want to have happen, we send out an electromagnetic charge (clear picture-thought accompanied by a deep, heart felt emotion of gratitude for example). That has an impact upon the field. The more you send those electromagnetic impulses out into the field, the more that you pull that 'reality' back towards you.

lol Now that I have written it, it sounds as loony as 'trust in Christ'.
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I'll take your version of loony any day over bible reciters.
hf
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


Me, too!

You know, my father used to shout Bible verses at me, too. It's not exactly the best way for one to find healing, I don't think.
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Get a savior. It might seem unnecessary, but when the time comes, you don't want to end up in a police station trying to explain that you don't remember your maniac rampage through a movie theater. If you don't have an upbringing and education with Christianity, your almost totally screwed, so just submit to their will, and your life will appear to turn out great, no need to be forgiven, nobody to answer to. They don't want christians for any other reason than it makes you a toy for their amusement, but it still beats becoming Satans puppet. Every close family member I know became an out of the closet athiest or alternative religion follower, only after they made their mark and aquired wealth, status, title, by incorporating bad stuff that messed other people up, into their mascarade, or they would still be flailing about floundering and in all appearance total failures like me. Eventuaslly, it's as if they can no longer keep up their deception and lie that they are faithfull. You really gotta be some kind of fallen angel in the making to keep the disguise from coming off. People that can pull it off for their entire lives, sometimes stumble on the sin combinations by accident through experimentation, and the only other common methods are through evil texts, rituals and clubs that teach it to their members, who get bound, and can't escape the bonds, when they enter into the rites that take them down the road to Hell in service to Lucifer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22234243



NEWS FLASH: most satanic / luciferian cults are not open, outspoke occultists like LaVey or Crowley. Or even the metal band, Slayer. Most actually maintain a wholesome front for GENERATIONS.

In the daylight, my cult family were very strict, very serious "Christians." I went to church, Bible study, church camp. I prayed often, read my Bible, mediated on spiritual things as the pertained to the Christianity I was raised in.

I lived most of my childhood as "saved" or "born again" person.

Even my most recent ex-boyfriend/ex-handler was a "devout Christian." He even baptized me. For serious.

All I'm saying is life is a lot more complicated than the black and white picture a lot of Christians or otherwise religious people would have you think.
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I'm kind of in the same boat.
Just last week I turned in my family for a pedo ring.
They have defense contracts
Who knows the can of worms I opened.

I am staying in prayer and watching my back.
I don't trust anyone right now.
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Holy moly, that was ballsy of you! Be careful out there. I think a low-level runaway slave is far less a threat to these evil, sadistic f*cks than somebody who went all out and turned in defense contractors for pedophilia. I mean, whoa.

Sir (or ma'am), you have balls. Balls of steel.

cow

May peace and security be with you always. Always. Sounds like you just did the world some good. And possibly saved some poor little kids from trauma.
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Well, that's this thread well and truly highjacked!
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Well, that's this thread well and truly highjacked!
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It's because OP said they were from a cult upbringing. The religious people saw an easy in: someone already trained to follow, just needs a little guidance to follow the "proper" leader...

It is what it is. 1dunno1
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


lol

You keep making me laugh with your smart ass responses to this stuff. lol ^5
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Well, that's this thread well and truly highjacked!
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It's because OP said they were from a cult upbringing. The religious people saw an easy in: someone already trained to follow, just needs a little guidance to follow the "proper" leader...

It is what it is. 1dunno1
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


The way I see it, OP was saying the cult upbringing was in the actions, not a religious or spiritual connotation. I mean if a family teaches a child the teachings of Jesus and violates these teaching with abuse there is no way you can call that a 'Christian' upbringing, or cult upbringing in the way you mention it.

OP, you said that both your family and the 'free-will' christians denied any evidence of ritual abuse. Are these the same people who then were involved in abuse? Its interesting that they would deny it and also perhaps be part of it.

Do you feel like their words have less influence on you as time passes? It seems like someone who didn't acknowledge the abuse would have less of an effect as a trigger. I'm not too well educated in the specific methods you speek of. It seems that as much as I study it only the general ideas are consistent from different people who write about it. I have no doubt there is strange stuff that goes on in the dark, I just hope for your sake that you weren't part of that.

OP, you said you would be happy to find out it was not ritual abuse, but instead a 'regular' (escuse the paraphrasing) abuse. Can you tell us what the distinguishing elements are? All abuse is terrible and can cause psychological trauma that doesn't surface for years. It is sad that we live in world that has even a small amount of people who would be willing to do such evil.

I hope my probing doesn't offend you, I'm just curious for truth's sake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15621788


Honestly, I haven't figured it all out yet. What memories that have resurfaced, those that I hold on to as if for dear life, combined with some of the crazy "coincidences" of my recent days are the only clues I really have at this point. Judging by some of these memories, I believe that it is highly likely that the "cult" really was a generational, religious one, of some kind.

An esoteric cult will ALWAYS deny the truth in the daylight, to those who are not a part of it. Usually in generational situations, even many of the trainers/programmers are themselves fragmented. They may have amnesia walls thick as mine in some places. Meaning, when they deny abuse and torture, the front alters aren't always lying. They really have no memory of what they've done to their own family.

Yes, as time goes on, it gets a little easier to avoid some of the more obvious triggers. It's not fool-proof, though, and I still have to take precautions, especially since I haven't even made contact with most of those who are influencing me on the inside.

From my perspective, ritual abuse is carried out with specific purpose and methodology. It's intended to create ever-loyal slaves who will continue the cult's teachings and actions, and never question their superiors within the cult. Standard or traditional abuse would just be a freak of a father who touches his daughter at night or a mother who locks her kids in the closet because she's either mentally troubled or sadistic. Basically. I could go into more detail, but... I think you get the idea.
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Well, that's this thread well and truly highjacked!
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It's because OP said they were from a cult upbringing. The religious people saw an easy in: someone already trained to follow, just needs a little guidance to follow the "proper" leader...

It is what it is. 1dunno1
 Quoting: The Light Under the Door


The way I see it, OP was saying the cult upbringing was in the actions, not a religious or spiritual connotation. I mean if a family teaches a child the teachings of Jesus and violates these teaching with abuse there is no way you can call that a 'Christian' upbringing, or cult upbringing in the way you mention it.

OP, you said that both your family and the 'free-will' christians denied any evidence of ritual abuse. Are these the same people who then were involved in abuse? Its interesting that they would deny it and also perhaps be part of it.

Do you feel like their words have less influence on you as time passes? It seems like someone who didn't acknowledge the abuse would have less of an effect as a trigger. I'm not too well educated in the specific methods you speek of. It seems that as much as I study it only the general ideas are consistent from different people who write about it. I have no doubt there is strange stuff that goes on in the dark, I just hope for your sake that you weren't part of that.

OP, you said you would be happy to find out it was not ritual abuse, but instead a 'regular' (escuse the paraphrasing) abuse. Can you tell us what the distinguishing elements are? All abuse is terrible and can cause psychological trauma that doesn't surface for years. It is sad that we live in world that has even a small amount of people who would be willing to do such evil.

I hope my probing doesn't offend you, I'm just curious for truth's sake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15621788


Honestly, I haven't figured it all out yet. What memories that have resurfaced, those that I hold on to as if for dear life, combined with some of the crazy "coincidences" of my recent days are the only clues I really have at this point. Judging by some of these memories, I believe that it is highly likely that the "cult" really was a generational, religious one, of some kind.

An esoteric cult will ALWAYS deny the truth in the daylight, to those who are not a part of it. Usually in generational situations, even many of the trainers/programmers are themselves fragmented. They may have amnesia walls thick as mine in some places. Meaning, when they deny abuse and torture, the front alters aren't always lying. They really have no memory of what they've done to their own family.

Yes, as time goes on, it gets a little easier to avoid some of the more obvious triggers. It's not fool-proof, though, and I still have to take precautions, especially since I haven't even made contact with most of those who are influencing me on the inside.

From my perspective, ritual abuse is carried out with specific purpose and methodology. It's intended to create ever-loyal slaves who will continue the cult's teachings and actions, and never question their superiors within the cult. Standard or traditional abuse would just be a freak of a father who touches his daughter at night or a mother who locks her kids in the closet because she's either mentally troubled or sadistic. Basically. I could go into more detail, but... I think you get the idea.
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Have you found any other sources other than Svali that you found to be credible?

Also, continue to be strong. I think everyone got off topic and forgot that that was what you asked for to begin with; strong positive feelings and prayers.
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Because if he was real about it, he would not be typing it.
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This goes to show how little you know.

One of the best things anyone that has had this happen to them, inflicted with the sickeness of other people, is speak openly about it. Then it loses all power.
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WORD TO THAT, BRO. The whole point of esotericism, the whole point of performing rituals under the cover of night, the whole point of building amnesia walls in one's mind to prevent their fronts from knowing the truth is secrecy. In secrets, they have power. They control what is unseen.

I WANT THE WORLD TO EFFING SEE IT.

Exposure frightens them more than anything. Exposure = failure, in their world.
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They do not wish to look upon it. I think they who do such things wish to forget if not only to not have others know the filty things they do.

To those that have it done, hide away in themself from shame or fear, but it is the washing in public that frees the mind of the negitives attached within the human condition.
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Because if he was real about it, he would not be typing it.
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This goes to show how little you know.

One of the best things anyone that has had this happen to them, inflicted with the sickeness of other people, is speak openly about it. Then it loses all power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21656968


WORD TO THAT, BRO. The whole point of esotericism, the whole point of performing rituals under the cover of night, the whole point of building amnesia walls in one's mind to prevent their fronts from knowing the truth is secrecy. In secrets, they have power. They control what is unseen.

I WANT THE WORLD TO EFFING SEE IT.

Exposure frightens them more than anything. Exposure = failure, in their world.
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They do not wish to look upon it. I think they who do such things wish to forget if not only to not have others know the filty things they do.

To those that have it done, hide away in themself from shame or fear, but it is the washing in public that frees the mind of the negitives attached within the human condition.
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Are there any examples of people discovering evidence of SRA without the use of a deprogrammer? It seems that would be strong evidence to support their claims. I would be interested in hearing what memories came out by the individuals and what was found by the deprogrammer in some of the cases I have found online. It is hard to get past some of the prophesy and mystical elements that some of the researchers mix in, almost like they either have inside knowledge from the cult or they are claiming to have a way of receiving knowledge of it. At least thats my perspective from reading so far.

I read the part about avoiding the bars in certain cities. It is scary what can be done when they drug people. I have known so many women who were raped after drinking in bars, it is frightening what some people can do.

Do you know who may have triggered you to harm someone?
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jeffpolachek dot com

I surfed a lot and found this very helpful compared to much of the info that's out there.

One of the things he says is that really intense harrassment episodes don't last forever and usually only happen once. What you need after one of these is a period to heal and figure things out. You can get a grip and move on if you can get enough information about "what really happened" -- but you may not be able to get info re: what exactly was done to you as a kid. Records have been destroyed and current government is still extremely hostile to victims. (I hate the term "survivors" because it implies we are getting help. Many do not.) So as a victim, you have to get your Lisbeth Salander on, as it were, and Help Yourself. Remember, God helps people who help themselves. You have to learn how to play the game of chess. You sometimes need a BF, a mentor or at least one person who can support you, but be careful when dealing with mental health professionals. Better to just get a friend...

You should think more carefully about how your BF kicked this stuff off for you. Do you have any real proof that your theories about yourself are true? Do you think you could get any? Maybe not. Best thing is to try to calm down and not act out. Polachek has some really good info about that -- see "Tricking Targets into Exhibiting the Symptoms of Mental Illness" to understand the importance of not panicking or making accusations of things you aren't sure of. What they do is to bait you with false info/situations/rumors into acting out, then people rush forth to try to get you into psychiatric care and then medical crimes can be committed against you. So read this info and be aware.

Their tactics stop working so well when you start to learn about them and realize it's not aliens or BS like that -- it's people doing calculated stuff to wreck your life -- or more accurately, to get you to conform to their system/rules.

Meditation, prayer, hot baths and ice cream also help. I hope you can find some peace very soon.
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Oh, by learning to play chess I meant that you must learn the enemy's strategies and make intelligent counter moves. I am still new to these games and have much to learn but with study you really can discover a lot. Websurf your butt off.

Netflix movies to watch if you can:

Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (for inspiration how to be like Lisbeth Salander)

Alice (two parts, the new one)

Careful dealing with mental health professionals. Go inside yourself and don't worry about the "alters". Just be strong and don't let other people manipulate you. You will learn to see their manipulation attempts and they will be more and more transparent, if a little shocking. Like your brother's performance. I have to give up my family too.
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This goes to show how little you know.

One of the best things anyone that has had this happen to them, inflicted with the sickeness of other people, is speak openly about it. Then it loses all power.
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WORD TO THAT, BRO. The whole point of esotericism, the whole point of performing rituals under the cover of night, the whole point of building amnesia walls in one's mind to prevent their fronts from knowing the truth is secrecy. In secrets, they have power. They control what is unseen.

I WANT THE WORLD TO EFFING SEE IT.

Exposure frightens them more than anything. Exposure = failure, in their world.
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They do not wish to look upon it. I think they who do such things wish to forget if not only to not have others know the filty things they do.

To those that have it done, hide away in themself from shame or fear, but it is the washing in public that frees the mind of the negitives attached within the human condition.
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Are there any examples of people discovering evidence of SRA without the use of a deprogrammer? It seems that would be strong evidence to support their claims. I would be interested in hearing what memories came out by the individuals and what was found by the deprogrammer in some of the cases I have found online. It is hard to get past some of the prophesy and mystical elements that some of the researchers mix in, almost like they either have inside knowledge from the cult or they are claiming to have a way of receiving knowledge of it. At least thats my perspective from reading so far.

I read the part about avoiding the bars in certain cities. It is scary what can be done when they drug people. I have known so many women who were raped after drinking in bars, it is frightening what some people can do.

Do you know who may have triggered you to harm someone?
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Honestly, the town in which I live is swarming with cults (the symbolism is everywhere, especially in the local businesses), so I refuse to point fingers. It really could have been a number of people. At this point, it's impossible to know.

I trust no one.
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OP, the truth has been told to you numerous times throughout this thread.

You could be a 'normal' person without any mark of ritual abuse, and still be just as spiritually lost.

There is only one absolute truth and that is GOD; your actual creator, your lord and savior, Jesus Christ. You're not evolved slime, you're not an alien experiment, you were definitely created by GOD and you know that. Surrender to Christ. The darkness has no power over the almighty just and loving Creator.

You started this thread looking for an answer, and it has been provided by several posters, as well as attacked by others attempting to lead you down the dead-end of gnosticism, atheism, and other religions.
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You were involved with a guy who was a GLPer and knew about this stuff?

Even if he is fed up with it, are there other people who know about this stuff that you can turn to?

It seems like these days many people are looking into the esoteric, but I have to say from spending time on GLP, to many people it is just a fun hobby. It is very difficult to find who really understands or who may have problems of their own and latch on to the esoteric looking for answers.
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You were involved with a guy who was a GLPer and knew about this stuff?

Even if he is fed up with it, are there other people who know about this stuff that you can turn to?

It seems like these days many people are looking into the esoteric, but I have to say from spending time on GLP, to many people it is just a fun hobby. It is very difficult to find who really understands or who may have problems of their own and latch on to the esoteric looking for answers.
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Unfortunately, even in the "truthy" community in the town where I live, most people aren't willing to dig deeper than the surface stuff. To some, it's just a fun hobby. To others, they'll recognize that oh, Brittany Spears or Nicki Minaj may be MK'd out, but they don't believe SRA and mind control are things that can happen on a regular basis, to seemingly average people.

Honestly, I haven't reached out much, but I'm a little wary of the idea. The last thing I need is for a well-meaning person to naively sell me out and disclose what I share with them with my family... you know... the whole "intervention" set-up. It's really hard to get people to hear you out, and consider what you're trying to say... much less, believe you.
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jeffpolachek dot com

I surfed a lot and found this very helpful compared to much of the info that's out there.

One of the things he says is that really intense harrassment episodes don't last forever and usually only happen once. What you need after one of these is a period to heal and figure things out. You can get a grip and move on if you can get enough information about "what really happened" -- but you may not be able to get info re: what exactly was done to you as a kid. Records have been destroyed and current government is still extremely hostile to victims. (I hate the term "survivors" because it implies we are getting help. Many do not.) So as a victim, you have to get your Lisbeth Salander on, as it were, and Help Yourself. Remember, God helps people who help themselves. You have to learn how to play the game of chess. You sometimes need a BF, a mentor or at least one person who can support you, but be careful when dealing with mental health professionals. Better to just get a friend...

You should think more carefully about how your BF kicked this stuff off for you. Do you have any real proof that your theories about yourself are true? Do you think you could get any? Maybe not. Best thing is to try to calm down and not act out. Polachek has some really good info about that -- see "Tricking Targets into Exhibiting the Symptoms of Mental Illness" to understand the importance of not panicking or making accusations of things you aren't sure of. What they do is to bait you with false info/situations/rumors into acting out, then people rush forth to try to get you into psychiatric care and then medical crimes can be committed against you. So read this info and be aware.

Their tactics stop working so well when you start to learn about them and realize it's not aliens or BS like that -- it's people doing calculated stuff to wreck your life -- or more accurately, to get you to conform to their system/rules.

Meditation, prayer, hot baths and ice cream also help. I hope you can find some peace very soon.
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Some of the best, most concise advice I've seen on this thread. I am steering clear of mental health professionals, and for good reason. I have taken countless antidepressants throughout my life, starting at age 12. The doctors were bewildered at why, even at the highest dosages for my weight, nothing would work. In fact, I even guinea-pigged for a drug called Cymbalta when I was in high school. A rebound lead to an overdose which lead to about a week in the mental hospital. The commercials now warn against administering the drug to kids under 18. lol

I think keeping a tight lip toward your former abusers - those you want to confront the most - IS the wisest choice. Recently, in a fit of "wtf do I have to lose," I sent out a stream of texts to some former abusers of mine. I was careful to only acknowledge hard memory (that I'd shared with them in the past), but it was still a poor choice on my part. The last thing someone in my shoes needs to do is draw more attention to themselves from these kinds of people.

Meditation, prayer, and ice cream also help. That sounds like the first steps on a path to peace to me :) Thank you :hf:
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Just like to point out that nowhere in the Bible does it say that GOD only helps those who help themselves.

God can help you to get back on track though.

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