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9/11 Warning DON'T FLY 9 Days Before it Happened. *****MUST READ*****

 
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This is absolutely true.

A friend of mine knows a guy who worked for a branch of U.S. intelligence. (At the time of this event, this guy no longer worked in intelligence, but you know what they say: "Once (fill in the blank), always (fill in the blank))." I know which branch it was, but I'm not going to say. Hint: Not CIA, FBI, or NSA. That's all I'll say.

Anyway, my friend took a vacation to Hawai'i from August 20-31, 2001. Upon returning, he was online on the evening of Sept 2, 2001, and saw that his friend (the ex-intel guy) was online on his AOL buddy list.

My friend contacted his buddy to say hi and tell him about his trip to Hawai'i. After telling him about his vacation, my friend's friend (the ex-intel guy) asked him, "Got any other trips planned?" My friend answered, "No. Why?" The ex-intel guy answered, "Well...you're not going to want to fly from east to west anytime soon." My friend said he laughed at the cryptic nature of this statement; sort of half nervously, half in disbelief. He said, "What?" The ex-intel guy said, "I've told you things in the past that proved to be true, right?" My friend answered, "Yes." The ex-intel guy then repeated, "Well then listen to me....you're not going to want to fly from east to west anytime soon."

At this point, my friend didn't really know what to think, but he remembers not taking this really seriously. After all, what was he to think? They moved on to other topics of conversation.

Fast forward 9 nine days -- 9/11 -- all 4 "hijacked" flights were flying from east to west.

My friend did not recall this cryptic "warning" until several months after 9/11. He contacted his friend, the ex-intel guy, and asked him, "Hey, I remember what you said in early September. How did you know?"

The ex-intel guy said, "What do you mean?" My friend said, "Your don't fly from east to west warning." The guy said, "Huh?" as if he didn't remember. My friend said, "Come on, man. How did you know about 9/11 beforehand?" The guy said, "I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't know about it beforehand."

My friend says he pushed and pushed for weeks, months, and every now and then, years after, but the ex-intel guy maintains he knew nothing beforehand, and won't talk about it much. He said they might talk cursorily about 9/11, but when my friend presses him about how he knew, the conversation stops, or is politely steered elsewhere.

My friend asked me what I thought about this.

I told him that it sounds like the guy knew ahead of time; probably from a tip from a friend of his who was still in this branch of intel that he used to be in. It's not like people sever ties when they move on from a line of work such as this. To the contrary, deep, lasting ties are made in such branches of work.

I further told my friend that it sounds like the ex-intel guy gave him a friendly warning, but made it vague enough so that he couldn't be accused of having prior knowledge of the event. My friend travels a lot, and his ex-intel friend knew this, so he wanted to give him a heads up, without being TOO specific, which could lead to a visit from the FBI or whomever.

Anyway, that's the absolute truth. Make it of what you will.

Personally, I KNOW (as I'm sure most of you do) that people had prior knowledge. (And I don't mean I "suspect". I mean I KNOW. The facts are to be found if you look hard enough). It's simply a matter of who knew and for how long beforehand.
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd



Bullshit.

I'm not saying it isn't true, and I couldn't care less if it was or wasn't...though I doubt that it is.

BUT, if that was the extent of the foreknowledge of 9/11, then there wasn't enough for anyone to find even remotely useful. It's like telling someone not to drive north for the next week, because you think there might be a light-colored car that will be driven carelessly by a drunk guy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23130792


First, it's absolutely true.

Second, I disagree with you in the strongest possible terms. My friend was warned just enough to protect him, but not enough to implicate his ex-intel friend. In other words, the ex-intel guy wanted to warn my friend so my friend wouldn't get harmed (he travels a lot). But at the same time, the ex-intel guy couldn't give too much specific information, or he'd implicate himself. In my opinion, the warning he gave was perfect. It was enough to keep my friend safe, but not enough to implicate the ex-intel guy in foreknowledge of 9/11 (as evidenced by your above post, where you state that his warning could've meant anything).
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Yeah whatever... it was also true I was in the South Tower that day...
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Sorry did not even read the post, just figure it is more B.S. on da internet... I was in da towerzzz when 911 went down...

peace
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Step away from the keyboard you retard.
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What do you all think of this?
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd


Still not have read it... lolzzz... but I was in the South Tower on 911 ...

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Yeah whatever... it was also true I was in the South Tower that day...
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What's that got to do with this thread???
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Sorry did not even read the post, just figure it is more B.S. on da internet... I was in da towerzzz when 911 went down...

peace
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Maybe you SHOULD read the thread, as your post has nothing to do with it.
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Sorry did not even read the post, just figure it is more B.S. on da internet... I was in da towerzzz when 911 went down...

peace
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Judging by your post, you must have been a fetus at the time.

OP, interesting story.
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Sorry did not even read the post, just figure it is more B.S. on da internet... I was in da towerzzz when 911 went down...

peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13974494


Judging by your post, you must have been a fetus at the time.

OP, interesting story.
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Thanks.
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First, it's absolutely true.

Second, I disagree with you in the strongest possible terms. My friend was warned just enough to protect him, but not enough to implicate his ex-intel friend. In other words, the ex-intel guy wanted to warn my friend so my friend wouldn't get harmed (he travels a lot). But at the same time, the ex-intel guy couldn't give too much specific information, or he'd implicate himself. In my opinion, the warning he gave was perfect. It was enough to keep my friend safe, but not enough to implicate the ex-intel guy in foreknowledge of 9/11 (as evidenced by your above post, where you state that his warning could've meant anything).
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster



OK, now I'm certain.

It's all bullshit. Your own words gave it away. And if you can't figure out where you went wrong, oh well.
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First, it's absolutely true.

Second, I disagree with you in the strongest possible terms. My friend was warned just enough to protect him, but not enough to implicate his ex-intel friend. In other words, the ex-intel guy wanted to warn my friend so my friend wouldn't get harmed (he travels a lot). But at the same time, the ex-intel guy couldn't give too much specific information, or he'd implicate himself. In my opinion, the warning he gave was perfect. It was enough to keep my friend safe, but not enough to implicate the ex-intel guy in foreknowledge of 9/11 (as evidenced by your above post, where you state that his warning could've meant anything).
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster



OK, now I'm certain.

It's all bullshit. Your own words gave it away. And if you can't figure out where you went wrong, oh well.
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Oh, DO grace us with your insight, won't you? lol Tool.
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"You're not going to want to fly from east to west anytime soon."

Sounds like someone knew ahead of time and wanted to warn a friend, but kept it just vague enough so as to avoid accusations of foreknowledge. But just detailed enough to protect his friend.
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This is absolutely true.

A friend of mine knows a guy who worked for a branch of U.S. intelligence. (At the time of this event, this guy no longer worked in intelligence, but you know what they say: "Once (fill in the blank), always (fill in the blank))." I know which branch it was, but I'm not going to say. Hint: Not CIA, FBI, or NSA. That's all I'll say.

Anyway, my friend took a vacation to Hawai'i from August 20-31, 2001. Upon returning, he was online on the evening of Sept 2, 2001, and saw that his friend (the ex-intel guy) was online on his AOL buddy list.

My friend contacted his buddy to say hi and tell him about his trip to Hawai'i. After telling him about his vacation, my friend's friend (the ex-intel guy) asked him, "Got any other trips planned?" My friend answered, "No. Why?" The ex-intel guy answered, "Well...you're not going to want to fly from east to west anytime soon." My friend said he laughed at the cryptic nature of this statement; sort of half nervously, half in disbelief. He said, "What?" The ex-intel guy said, "I've told you things in the past that proved to be true, right?" My friend answered, "Yes." The ex-intel guy then repeated, "Well then listen to me....you're not going to want to fly from east to west anytime soon."

At this point, my friend didn't really know what to think, but he remembers not taking this really seriously. After all, what was he to think? They moved on to other topics of conversation.

Fast forward 9 nine days -- 9/11 -- all 4 "hijacked" flights were flying from east to west.

My friend did not recall this cryptic "warning" until several months after 9/11. He contacted his friend, the ex-intel guy, and asked him, "Hey, I remember what you said in early September. How did you know?"

The ex-intel guy said, "What do you mean?" My friend said, "Your don't fly from east to west warning." The guy said, "Huh?" as if he didn't remember. My friend said, "Come on, man. How did you know about 9/11 beforehand?" The guy said, "I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't know about it beforehand."

My friend says he pushed and pushed for weeks, months, and every now and then, years after, but the ex-intel guy maintains he knew nothing beforehand, and won't talk about it much. He said they might talk cursorily about 9/11, but when my friend presses him about how he knew, the conversation stops, or is politely steered elsewhere.

My friend asked me what I thought about this.

I told him that it sounds like the guy knew ahead of time; probably from a tip from a friend of his who was still in this branch of intel that he used to be in. It's not like people sever ties when they move on from a line of work such as this. To the contrary, deep, lasting ties are made in such branches of work.

I further told my friend that it sounds like the ex-intel guy gave him a friendly warning, but made it vague enough so that he couldn't be accused of having prior knowledge of the event. My friend travels a lot, and his ex-intel friend knew this, so he wanted to give him a heads up, without being TOO specific, which could lead to a visit from the FBI or whomever.

Anyway, that's the absolute truth. Make it of what you will.

Personally, I KNOW (as I'm sure most of you do) that people had prior knowledge. (And I don't mean I "suspect". I mean I KNOW. The facts are to be found if you look hard enough). It's simply a matter of who knew and for how long beforehand.
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd


Very similar thing happened to me.

On Friday September 7, 2001, I was in a "beer bash" with a well known cryptologist. At one point his cell phone rang and he left the room. When he came back he said "It was one of my CIA spooks."

Four days later was 9/11, and it only occurred to me MUCH later (6 months or so) that he had gotten a call from spooks just 4 days before the big event.

I asked him about it and he denied any memory of that event.
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You lost me at a friend of mine.. sorry
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This is absolutely true.

A friend of mine knows a guy who worked for a branch of U.S. intelligence. (At the time of this event, this guy no longer worked in intelligence, but you know what they say: "Once (fill in the blank), always (fill in the blank))." I know which branch it was, but I'm not going to say. Hint: Not CIA, FBI, or NSA. That's all I'll say.

Anyway, my friend took a vacation to Hawai'i from August 20-31, 2001. Upon returning, he was online on the evening of Sept 2, 2001, and saw that his friend (the ex-intel guy) was online on his AOL buddy list.

My friend contacted his buddy to say hi and tell him about his trip to Hawai'i. After telling him about his vacation, my friend's friend (the ex-intel guy) asked him, "Got any other trips planned?" My friend answered, "No. Why?" The ex-intel guy answered, "Well...you're not going to want to fly from east to west anytime soon." My friend said he laughed at the cryptic nature of this statement; sort of half nervously, half in disbelief. He said, "What?" The ex-intel guy said, "I've told you things in the past that proved to be true, right?" My friend answered, "Yes." The ex-intel guy then repeated, "Well then listen to me....you're not going to want to fly from east to west anytime soon."

At this point, my friend didn't really know what to think, but he remembers not taking this really seriously. After all, what was he to think? They moved on to other topics of conversation.

Fast forward 9 nine days -- 9/11 -- all 4 "hijacked" flights were flying from east to west.

My friend did not recall this cryptic "warning" until several months after 9/11. He contacted his friend, the ex-intel guy, and asked him, "Hey, I remember what you said in early September. How did you know?"

The ex-intel guy said, "What do you mean?" My friend said, "Your don't fly from east to west warning." The guy said, "Huh?" as if he didn't remember. My friend said, "Come on, man. How did you know about 9/11 beforehand?" The guy said, "I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't know about it beforehand."

My friend says he pushed and pushed for weeks, months, and every now and then, years after, but the ex-intel guy maintains he knew nothing beforehand, and won't talk about it much. He said they might talk cursorily about 9/11, but when my friend presses him about how he knew, the conversation stops, or is politely steered elsewhere.

My friend asked me what I thought about this.

I told him that it sounds like the guy knew ahead of time; probably from a tip from a friend of his who was still in this branch of intel that he used to be in. It's not like people sever ties when they move on from a line of work such as this. To the contrary, deep, lasting ties are made in such branches of work.

I further told my friend that it sounds like the ex-intel guy gave him a friendly warning, but made it vague enough so that he couldn't be accused of having prior knowledge of the event. My friend travels a lot, and his ex-intel friend knew this, so he wanted to give him a heads up, without being TOO specific, which could lead to a visit from the FBI or whomever.

Anyway, that's the absolute truth. Make it of what you will.

Personally, I KNOW (as I'm sure most of you do) that people had prior knowledge. (And I don't mean I "suspect". I mean I KNOW. The facts are to be found if you look hard enough). It's simply a matter of who knew and for how long beforehand.
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd


Very similar thing happened to me.

On Friday September 7, 2001, I was in a "beer bash" with a well known cryptologist. At one point his cell phone rang and he left the room. When he came back he said "It was one of my CIA spooks."

Four days later was 9/11, and it only occurred to me MUCH later (6 months or so) that he had gotten a call from spooks just 4 days before the big event.

I asked him about it and he denied any memory of that event.
 Quoting: berniemom2012


Interesting. Thanks for that. My friend, too, didn't remember the cryptic message given to him 10 days prior to 9/11 until a few months after the event. And then when he did, it was like a bolt of lightning hit him. And, yes, just like you said, when he confronted his "ex-intel" friend, the guy flat-on denied it.
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You lost me at a friend of mine.. sorry
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Okay, it was me. Better?
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You lost me at a friend of mine.. sorry
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Why would that matter?
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Ancient Greek mythical stories. MMm gotta love it!
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What do you mean??
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Sarcasm at its best.
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Everything in the account is accurate and truthful, even down to the exact wording of the "warning": "You're not going to want to fly from east to west anytime soon."

What do you make of it? Do you believe people can have premonitions? Frankly, I don't. I'm not saying it's not possible. It's just that I don't dabble in those realms. I'm a nuts and bolts, facts and figures, deduction type of person.
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I believe you.
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Its well known that warnings where passed up from intelligence agencies and ignored by the Bush administration.

The Presidio of Monterey closed itself to traffic shortly before 9/11 and never reopened. Even if Bush didn't want to listen, the three letter agencies acted to protect there assets.
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This is absolutely true.

A friend of mine knows a guy who worked for a branch of U.S. intelligence. (At the time of this event, this guy no longer worked in intelligence, but you know what they say: "Once (fill in the blank), always (fill in the blank))." I know which branch it was, but I'm not going to say. Hint: Not CIA, FBI, or NSA. That's all I'll say.

Anyway, my friend took a vacation to Hawai'i from August 20-31, 2001. Upon returning, he was online on the evening of Sept 2, 2001, and saw that his friend (the ex-intel guy) was online on his AOL buddy list.

My friend contacted his buddy to say hi and tell him about his trip to Hawai'i. After telling him about his vacation, my friend's friend (the ex-intel guy) asked him, "Got any other trips planned?" My friend answered, "No. Why?" The ex-intel guy answered, "Well...you're not going to want to fly from east to west anytime soon." My friend said he laughed at the cryptic nature of this statement; sort of half nervously, half in disbelief. He said, "What?" The ex-intel guy said, "I've told you things in the past that proved to be true, right?" My friend answered, "Yes." The ex-intel guy then repeated, "Well then listen to me....you're not going to want to fly from east to west anytime soon."

At this point, my friend didn't really know what to think, but he remembers not taking this really seriously. After all, what was he to think? They moved on to other topics of conversation.

Fast forward 9 nine days -- 9/11 -- all 4 "hijacked" flights were flying from east to west.

My friend did not recall this cryptic "warning" until several months after 9/11. He contacted his friend, the ex-intel guy, and asked him, "Hey, I remember what you said in early September. How did you know?"

The ex-intel guy said, "What do you mean?" My friend said, "Your don't fly from east to west warning." The guy said, "Huh?" as if he didn't remember. My friend said, "Come on, man. How did you know about 9/11 beforehand?" The guy said, "I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't know about it beforehand."

My friend says he pushed and pushed for weeks, months, and every now and then, years after, but the ex-intel guy maintains he knew nothing beforehand, and won't talk about it much. He said they might talk cursorily about 9/11, but when my friend presses him about how he knew, the conversation stops, or is politely steered elsewhere.

My friend asked me what I thought about this.

I told him that it sounds like the guy knew ahead of time; probably from a tip from a friend of his who was still in this branch of intel that he used to be in. It's not like people sever ties when they move on from a line of work such as this. To the contrary, deep, lasting ties are made in such branches of work.

I further told my friend that it sounds like the ex-intel guy gave him a friendly warning, but made it vague enough so that he couldn't be accused of having prior knowledge of the event. My friend travels a lot, and his ex-intel friend knew this, so he wanted to give him a heads up, without being TOO specific, which could lead to a visit from the FBI or whomever.

Anyway, that's the absolute truth. Make it of what you will.

Personally, I KNOW (as I'm sure most of you do) that people had prior knowledge. (And I don't mean I "suspect". I mean I KNOW. The facts are to be found if you look hard enough). It's simply a matter of who knew and for how long beforehand.
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd


Very similar thing happened to me.

On Friday September 7, 2001, I was in a "beer bash" with a well known cryptologist. At one point his cell phone rang and he left the room. When he came back he said "It was one of my CIA spooks."

Four days later was 9/11, and it only occurred to me MUCH later (6 months or so) that he had gotten a call from spooks just 4 days before the big event.

I asked him about it and he denied any memory of that event.
 Quoting: berniemom2012


Interesting. Thanks for that. My friend, too, didn't remember the cryptic message given to him 10 days prior to 9/11 until a few months after the event. And then when he did, it was like a bolt of lightning hit him. And, yes, just like you said, when he confronted his "ex-intel" friend, the guy flat-on denied it.
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


I guess even if you weren't an official member of the intelligence community, it would be difficult to admit you'd had a warning and had not spoken up somehow.
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Its well known that warnings where passed up from intelligence agencies and ignored by the Bush administration.

The Presidio of Monterey closed itself to traffic shortly before 9/11 and never reopened. Even if Bush didn't want to listen, the three letter agencies acted to protect there assets.
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Interesting about the Presidio at Monterey. Didn't know that.
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What do you mean??
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd


Sarcasm at its best.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22071507


Everything in the account is accurate and truthful, even down to the exact wording of the "warning": "You're not going to want to fly from east to west anytime soon."

What do you make of it? Do you believe people can have premonitions? Frankly, I don't. I'm not saying it's not possible. It's just that I don't dabble in those realms. I'm a nuts and bolts, facts and figures, deduction type of person.
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd


I believe you.
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Thanks
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This is absolutely true.

A friend of mine knows a guy who worked for a branch of U.S. intelligence. (At the time of this event, this guy no longer worked in intelligence, but you know what they say: "Once (fill in the blank), always (fill in the blank))." I know which branch it was, but I'm not going to say. Hint: Not CIA, FBI, or NSA. That's all I'll say.

Anyway, my friend took a vacation to Hawai'i from August 20-31, 2001. Upon returning, he was online on the evening of Sept 2, 2001, and saw that his friend (the ex-intel guy) was online on his AOL buddy list.

My friend contacted his buddy to say hi and tell him about his trip to Hawai'i. After telling him about his vacation, my friend's friend (the ex-intel guy) asked him, "Got any other trips planned?" My friend answered, "No. Why?" The ex-intel guy answered, "Well...you're not going to want to fly from east to west anytime soon." My friend said he laughed at the cryptic nature of this statement; sort of half nervously, half in disbelief. He said, "What?" The ex-intel guy said, "I've told you things in the past that proved to be true, right?" My friend answered, "Yes." The ex-intel guy then repeated, "Well then listen to me....you're not going to want to fly from east to west anytime soon."

At this point, my friend didn't really know what to think, but he remembers not taking this really seriously. After all, what was he to think? They moved on to other topics of conversation.

Fast forward 9 nine days -- 9/11 -- all 4 "hijacked" flights were flying from east to west.

My friend did not recall this cryptic "warning" until several months after 9/11. He contacted his friend, the ex-intel guy, and asked him, "Hey, I remember what you said in early September. How did you know?"

The ex-intel guy said, "What do you mean?" My friend said, "Your don't fly from east to west warning." The guy said, "Huh?" as if he didn't remember. My friend said, "Come on, man. How did you know about 9/11 beforehand?" The guy said, "I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't know about it beforehand."

My friend says he pushed and pushed for weeks, months, and every now and then, years after, but the ex-intel guy maintains he knew nothing beforehand, and won't talk about it much. He said they might talk cursorily about 9/11, but when my friend presses him about how he knew, the conversation stops, or is politely steered elsewhere.

My friend asked me what I thought about this.

I told him that it sounds like the guy knew ahead of time; probably from a tip from a friend of his who was still in this branch of intel that he used to be in. It's not like people sever ties when they move on from a line of work such as this. To the contrary, deep, lasting ties are made in such branches of work.

I further told my friend that it sounds like the ex-intel guy gave him a friendly warning, but made it vague enough so that he couldn't be accused of having prior knowledge of the event. My friend travels a lot, and his ex-intel friend knew this, so he wanted to give him a heads up, without being TOO specific, which could lead to a visit from the FBI or whomever.

Anyway, that's the absolute truth. Make it of what you will.

Personally, I KNOW (as I'm sure most of you do) that people had prior knowledge. (And I don't mean I "suspect". I mean I KNOW. The facts are to be found if you look hard enough). It's simply a matter of who knew and for how long beforehand.
 Quoting: Anonimous Cowerd


Very similar thing happened to me.

On Friday September 7, 2001, I was in a "beer bash" with a well known cryptologist. At one point his cell phone rang and he left the room. When he came back he said "It was one of my CIA spooks."

Four days later was 9/11, and it only occurred to me MUCH later (6 months or so) that he had gotten a call from spooks just 4 days before the big event.

I asked him about it and he denied any memory of that event.
 Quoting: berniemom2012


Interesting. Thanks for that. My friend, too, didn't remember the cryptic message given to him 10 days prior to 9/11 until a few months after the event. And then when he did, it was like a bolt of lightning hit him. And, yes, just like you said, when he confronted his "ex-intel" friend, the guy flat-on denied it.
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I guess even if you weren't an official member of the intelligence community, it would be difficult to admit you'd had a warning and had not spoken up somehow.
 Quoting: berniemom2012


Yes, but remember...it was such a general warning. Hard to prove the person giving the "warning" had foreknowledge....although the "east to west" and "flying" were key points that showed at least partial foreknowledge.
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What are these British Commonwealth (UK, Canada) RETURDS are doing here with their sarcastic uninformed "debunking"?
Fvcking morons who are clueless about what's going on here, and weren't in here at the time of the event, getting all of their "news" (mainly lies) from CTV, BBC and CNN.
The BBC itself clearly showed its manipulated and controlled lying hand, when they announced that Bldg.7 has collapsed 25 minutes(!) BEFORE the actual event. They even put on that stupid broad telling the "news" with the building still standing behind her.
Hey Anglo morons, what more proof you need that your "news" and information sources are bogus and manipulated?


"9/11 is the Litmus Test."

"There is one thing that defines everyone over the course of these early years of this new century. That thing is the 9/11 attack. Everyone in government and every field of endeavor the world over is defined by their position on this event. It is not necessary to know the truth. It is only necessary to know the extent of the lies in order to define any leader in any position anywhere in the world. By what they have said and by what they have not said, one can accurately judge who is an enemy of the peoples of the world. One can accurately determine who is a tool of the psychopaths or one of them.

Think about what you allow yourself to know. Think about what you pass by; ignore, deny and defend ...that defines you. It defines the degree of your personal courage, your relationship to the truth, your values, your principles and what you will pass on to your children and everyone you meet. It tells you in that place where your conscience must once have lived whether you are a hypocrite and a fool or whether something greater still lives within you.

Nineteen men pass through airport security. Eleven of them are stopped and questioned but then allowed to board. Several large passenger planes wind up hijacked and flown at high speed into enormous buildings. None of these men had shown previous capacity to accomplish this feat. These men were armed with box cutters. No jet fighters were scrambled to intercept these planes, although the authorities in charge of such actions knew immediately what was happening. Airport traffic controllers were ordered to destroy all recorded evidence of the event. Some of them physically broke the CD’s and scattered the pieces into different trash containers at the airports.

Within hours, three of the biggest buildings in the city, buildings designed to absorb the impact of the very planes which hit them, all crumbled into their own footprints at the speed of freefall. It was said that the fire, which burned below the melting point of steel, caused this to happen. No fire in history had previously accomplished such a thing, not once. Previous fires had burned hotter and longer, yet no building fell. Now, three have fallen in one day. Months later the wreckage burned white hot beneath the surface and clear cuts in support beams were photographed.

A passport from one of the hijackers appears on a city street undamaged. Cars are discovered at airports with flight training videos and Korans. Apparently the men who were deeply religious enough to give their lives to attack these buildings thought nothing of leaving their sacred texts behind. Some weeks later, seven of the alleged hijackers are found to be alive in their native countries.

Some days earlier some of these men were observed drinking and having lap dances in a Florida bar. This sort of behavior is not normal for such men as these. Around the same time, the ringleader of these men and some associates were observed by the FBI boarding a gambling boat belonging to Jack Abramoff. These men were tracked to Las Vegas and watched by the FBI, yet they passed through the airport security checkpoints. Even though eleven of them were stopped and questioned they still boarded.

On the day of the event several men were observed videotaping the attack as it happened. They were seen to be dancing and celebrating as well. The police stopped and arrested them. They were found to be Mossad agents. Some time later they were quietly released and returned to their home country with no reasons given. The men videotaping and celebrating had to have known about the attack in advance in order to have been in a position to film it. Members of the Bin Laden family; the man accused of masterminding the attack, were immediately flown out of the country. Bin Laden denied any connection to this attack. Direct evidence of this exists and no evidence of his admitting his involvement exists. All of this is fabrication and hearsay. No one can present such information other than one fabricated video that was proven false by the world’s leading forensic experts in Switzerland. Many insist it is true but no one has such evidence. Go look. Bring it to me.

As a result of this event, major wars have been launched. Over a million people have died with nearly another 5 million displaced. An investigation was launched into the event against the wishes of the president and vice president and rubber stamped with pre-drawn conclusions even though the evidence did not support these conclusions. The wreckage was gathered together and shipped overseas. No one was allowed to investigate it.

In every event... in New York City... in a Pennsylvania field... at The Pentagon... all of the evidence is contradictory. The amount of evidence on every level that directly refutes what we have been told fills thousands of pages. Meanwhile, the administration and the congress belligerently oppose any inquiry into the matter. People in government who have questioned the official story have been fired from their jobs or driven from office by the very party they are a member of. University professors are fired for discussing it. Independent investigators are met with scenes like THIS. Major web sites composed of experts in their fields, HERE and HERE are ignored and censured.

Casual investigation of who benefited and who engineered actions of global impact based on official 9/11 findings ALL lead to the same parties. It is incontrovertibly true that one organization, PNAC, called for an attack on American soil in order to facilitate what followed. Members of this organization held key positions in and around the present administration.

Therefore... therefore... here is what you must know, given that the official story is patently ABSURD. Anyone... anyone who promotes the official story; who accepts the official story, who oppresses those who doubt the official story, who does not question the official story, is involved or too stupid to pat their head and chew gum at the same time. Any presidential candidate who does not dispute the official story is a traitor to their nation and a tool of those who accomplished the attack.

It all comes down to 9/11. Everything that has happened has happened based on a LIE. Everyone in government; in the media, in entertainment, in organized religion, in the public eye and in the public who accepts and promotes the official story is either a traitor or a tool. Everyone who does not stand forth and speak truth to power is a coward, a liar and complicit in mass murder. Everyone- everywhere can be measured according to this litmus test.

I have included here only a VERY-VERY SMALL(!) portion of the damning evidence that runs counter to the official lies. The preponderance of evidence that refute the official lies is overwhelming." (by L.V.)
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Re: 9/11 Warning DON'T FLY 9 Days Before it Happened. *****MUST READ*****
What are these British Commonwealth (UK, Canada) RETURDS are doing here with their sarcastic uninformed "debunking"?
Fvcking morons who are clueless about what's going on here, and weren't in here at the time of the event, getting all of their "news" (mainly lies) from CTV, BBC and CNN.
The BBC itself clearly showed its manipulated and controlled lying hand, when they announced that Bldg.7 has collapsed 25 minutes(!) BEFORE the actual event. They even put on that stupid broad telling the "news" with the building still standing behind her.
Hey Anglo morons, what more proof you need that your "news" and information sources are bogus and manipulated?


"9/11 is the Litmus Test."

"There is one thing that defines everyone over the course of these early years of this new century. That thing is the 9/11 attack. Everyone in government and every field of endeavor the world over is defined by their position on this event. It is not necessary to know the truth. It is only necessary to know the extent of the lies in order to define any leader in any position anywhere in the world. By what they have said and by what they have not said, one can accurately judge who is an enemy of the peoples of the world. One can accurately determine who is a tool of the psychopaths or one of them.

Think about what you allow yourself to know. Think about what you pass by; ignore, deny and defend ...that defines you. It defines the degree of your personal courage, your relationship to the truth, your values, your principles and what you will pass on to your children and everyone you meet. It tells you in that place where your conscience must once have lived whether you are a hypocrite and a fool or whether something greater still lives within you.

Nineteen men pass through airport security. Eleven of them are stopped and questioned but then allowed to board. Several large passenger planes wind up hijacked and flown at high speed into enormous buildings. None of these men had shown previous capacity to accomplish this feat. These men were armed with box cutters. No jet fighters were scrambled to intercept these planes, although the authorities in charge of such actions knew immediately what was happening. Airport traffic controllers were ordered to destroy all recorded evidence of the event. Some of them physically broke the CD’s and scattered the pieces into different trash containers at the airports.

Within hours, three of the biggest buildings in the city, buildings designed to absorb the impact of the very planes which hit them, all crumbled into their own footprints at the speed of freefall. It was said that the fire, which burned below the melting point of steel, caused this to happen. No fire in history had previously accomplished such a thing, not once. Previous fires had burned hotter and longer, yet no building fell. Now, three have fallen in one day. Months later the wreckage burned white hot beneath the surface and clear cuts in support beams were photographed.

A passport from one of the hijackers appears on a city street undamaged. Cars are discovered at airports with flight training videos and Korans. Apparently the men who were deeply religious enough to give their lives to attack these buildings thought nothing of leaving their sacred texts behind. Some weeks later, seven of the alleged hijackers are found to be alive in their native countries.

Some days earlier some of these men were observed drinking and having lap dances in a Florida bar. This sort of behavior is not normal for such men as these. Around the same time, the ringleader of these men and some associates were observed by the FBI boarding a gambling boat belonging to Jack Abramoff. These men were tracked to Las Vegas and watched by the FBI, yet they passed through the airport security checkpoints. Even though eleven of them were stopped and questioned they still boarded.

On the day of the event several men were observed videotaping the attack as it happened. They were seen to be dancing and celebrating as well. The police stopped and arrested them. They were found to be Mossad agents. Some time later they were quietly released and returned to their home country with no reasons given. The men videotaping and celebrating had to have known about the attack in advance in order to have been in a position to film it. Members of the Bin Laden family; the man accused of masterminding the attack, were immediately flown out of the country. Bin Laden denied any connection to this attack. Direct evidence of this exists and no evidence of his admitting his involvement exists. All of this is fabrication and hearsay. No one can present such information other than one fabricated video that was proven false by the world’s leading forensic experts in Switzerland. Many insist it is true but no one has such evidence. Go look. Bring it to me.

As a result of this event, major wars have been launched. Over a million people have died with nearly another 5 million displaced. An investigation was launched into the event against the wishes of the president and vice president and rubber stamped with pre-drawn conclusions even though the evidence did not support these conclusions. The wreckage was gathered together and shipped overseas. No one was allowed to investigate it.

In every event... in New York City... in a Pennsylvania field... at The Pentagon... all of the evidence is contradictory. The amount of evidence on every level that directly refutes what we have been told fills thousands of pages. Meanwhile, the administration and the congress belligerently oppose any inquiry into the matter. People in government who have questioned the official story have been fired from their jobs or driven from office by the very party they are a member of. University professors are fired for discussing it. Independent investigators are met with scenes like THIS. Major web sites composed of experts in their fields, HERE and HERE are ignored and censured.

Casual investigation of who benefited and who engineered actions of global impact based on official 9/11 findings ALL lead to the same parties. It is incontrovertibly true that one organization, PNAC, called for an attack on American soil in order to facilitate what followed. Members of this organization held key positions in and around the present administration.

Therefore... therefore... here is what you must know, given that the official story is patently ABSURD. Anyone... anyone who promotes the official story; who accepts the official story, who oppresses those who doubt the official story, who does not question the official story, is involved or too stupid to pat their head and chew gum at the same time. Any presidential candidate who does not dispute the official story is a traitor to their nation and a tool of those who accomplished the attack.

It all comes down to 9/11. Everything that has happened has happened based on a LIE. Everyone in government; in the media, in entertainment, in organized religion, in the public eye and in the public who accepts and promotes the official story is either a traitor or a tool. Everyone who does not stand forth and speak truth to power is a coward, a liar and complicit in mass murder. Everyone- everywhere can be measured according to this litmus test.

I have included here only a VERY-VERY SMALL(!) portion of the damning evidence that runs counter to the official lies. The preponderance of evidence that refute the official lies is overwhelming." (by L.V.)
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Re: 9/11 Warning DON'T FLY 9 Days Before it Happened. *****MUST READ*****
What are these British Commonwealth (UK, Canada) RETURDS are doing here with their sarcastic uninformed "debunking"?
Fvcking morons who are clueless about what's going on here, and weren't in here at the time of the event, getting all of their "news" (mainly lies) from CTV, BBC and CNN.
The BBC itself clearly showed its manipulated and controlled lying hand, when they announced that Bldg.7 has collapsed 25 minutes(!) BEFORE the actual event. They even put on that stupid broad telling the "news" with the building still standing behind her.
Hey Anglo morons, what more proof you need that your "news" and information sources are bogus and manipulated?


"9/11 is the Litmus Test."

"There is one thing that defines everyone over the course of these early years of this new century. That thing is the 9/11 attack. Everyone in government and every field of endeavor the world over is defined by their position on this event. It is not necessary to know the truth. It is only necessary to know the extent of the lies in order to define any leader in any position anywhere in the world. By what they have said and by what they have not said, one can accurately judge who is an enemy of the peoples of the world. One can accurately determine who is a tool of the psychopaths or one of them.

Think about what you allow yourself to know. Think about what you pass by; ignore, deny and defend ...that defines you. It defines the degree of your personal courage, your relationship to the truth, your values, your principles and what you will pass on to your children and everyone you meet. It tells you in that place where your conscience must once have lived whether you are a hypocrite and a fool or whether something greater still lives within you.

Nineteen men pass through airport security. Eleven of them are stopped and questioned but then allowed to board. Several large passenger planes wind up hijacked and flown at high speed into enormous buildings. None of these men had shown previous capacity to accomplish this feat. These men were armed with box cutters. No jet fighters were scrambled to intercept these planes, although the authorities in charge of such actions knew immediately what was happening. Airport traffic controllers were ordered to destroy all recorded evidence of the event. Some of them physically broke the CD’s and scattered the pieces into different trash containers at the airports.

Within hours, three of the biggest buildings in the city, buildings designed to absorb the impact of the very planes which hit them, all crumbled into their own footprints at the speed of freefall. It was said that the fire, which burned below the melting point of steel, caused this to happen. No fire in history had previously accomplished such a thing, not once. Previous fires had burned hotter and longer, yet no building fell. Now, three have fallen in one day. Months later the wreckage burned white hot beneath the surface and clear cuts in support beams were photographed.

A passport from one of the hijackers appears on a city street undamaged. Cars are discovered at airports with flight training videos and Korans. Apparently the men who were deeply religious enough to give their lives to attack these buildings thought nothing of leaving their sacred texts behind. Some weeks later, seven of the alleged hijackers are found to be alive in their native countries.

Some days earlier some of these men were observed drinking and having lap dances in a Florida bar. This sort of behavior is not normal for such men as these. Around the same time, the ringleader of these men and some associates were observed by the FBI boarding a gambling boat belonging to Jack Abramoff. These men were tracked to Las Vegas and watched by the FBI, yet they passed through the airport security checkpoints. Even though eleven of them were stopped and questioned they still boarded.

On the day of the event several men were observed videotaping the attack as it happened. They were seen to be dancing and celebrating as well. The police stopped and arrested them. They were found to be Mossad agents. Some time later they were quietly released and returned to their home country with no reasons given. The men videotaping and celebrating had to have known about the attack in advance in order to have been in a position to film it. Members of the Bin Laden family; the man accused of masterminding the attack, were immediately flown out of the country. Bin Laden denied any connection to this attack. Direct evidence of this exists and no evidence of his admitting his involvement exists. All of this is fabrication and hearsay. No one can present such information other than one fabricated video that was proven false by the world’s leading forensic experts in Switzerland. Many insist it is true but no one has such evidence. Go look. Bring it to me.

As a result of this event, major wars have been launched. Over a million people have died with nearly another 5 million displaced. An investigation was launched into the event against the wishes of the president and vice president and rubber stamped with pre-drawn conclusions even though the evidence did not support these conclusions. The wreckage was gathered together and shipped overseas. No one was allowed to investigate it.

In every event... in New York City... in a Pennsylvania field... at The Pentagon... all of the evidence is contradictory. The amount of evidence on every level that directly refutes what we have been told fills thousands of pages. Meanwhile, the administration and the congress belligerently oppose any inquiry into the matter. People in government who have questioned the official story have been fired from their jobs or driven from office by the very party they are a member of. University professors are fired for discussing it. Independent investigators are met with scenes like THIS. Major web sites composed of experts in their fields, HERE and HERE are ignored and censured.

Casual investigation of who benefited and who engineered actions of global impact based on official 9/11 findings ALL lead to the same parties. It is incontrovertibly true that one organization, PNAC, called for an attack on American soil in order to facilitate what followed. Members of this organization held key positions in and around the present administration.

Therefore... therefore... here is what you must know, given that the official story is patently ABSURD. Anyone... anyone who promotes the official story; who accepts the official story, who oppresses those who doubt the official story, who does not question the official story, is involved or too stupid to pat their head and chew gum at the same time. Any presidential candidate who does not dispute the official story is a traitor to their nation and a tool of those who accomplished the attack.

It all comes down to 9/11. Everything that has happened has happened based on a LIE. Everyone in government; in the media, in entertainment, in organized religion, in the public eye and in the public who accepts and promotes the official story is either a traitor or a tool. Everyone who does not stand forth and speak truth to power is a coward, a liar and complicit in mass murder. Everyone- everywhere can be measured according to this litmus test.

I have included here only a VERY-VERY SMALL(!) portion of the damning evidence that runs counter to the official lies. The preponderance of evidence that refute the official lies is overwhelming." (by L.V.)
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