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ALERT!!! Most Important Nibiru Video _Planets Orbits and Killed Scientist

 
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'Dr. Astro' is an amateur astronomer by his own admission. Dr Harrington was a professional astronomer by historical fact.

Is it wise to listen to an apprentice's contraventions when a professional has already presented a putatively rational argument?
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this.
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"Amateur Astronomer" just means you don't get paid to do it, you do it as a hobby. Being an amateur astronomer doesn't automatically make you inferior to a professional astronomer.

Astronomer (Professional) - People who earn money from astronomy.
Amateur Astronomer - People who spend money for astronomy :)
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So by your reasoning, a 2nd year resident just 2 years out of med school is a professional doctor insomuch as 2nd year residents get paid (however paltry!)?

So if her specialty is ortho, then you would have no problem taking your daughter to this 2nd year resident for a cervical fusion?
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You can denigrate my experience as much as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that your argument is a logical fallacy. This is not medicine and this is not surgery, I have presented my methods and my data so anyone can repeat what I have done. The substance of what I present is all that matters, you have failed to address it.

In science, when research is presented at conference presentations, you do not attack the presenter if they do not yet have their PhD simply because they're a student, even if their findings are controversial. You address the substance of their material, their methods, or you shut the hell up. You have chosen to engage in appeals to authority and relentlessly fallacious logic, even though professional astronomers agree with me that Harrington was wrong.

Write Dr. Matese or Dr. Whitmire an email and ask them if Harrington's hypothetical planet is real or not. Ask them if Dr. Standish was right. Matese and Whitmire have their own hypothetical planet they think is somewhere out near the Oort cloud, Tyche, but even they would admit that Harrington's Planet X hypothesis was simply wrong.

In fact the posters who have cited Harrington have themselves made claims that directly contradict Harrington's own research. They do so without so much as a shred of supporting evidence or even an acknowledgement that they're contradicting the person whose authority they're appealing to! Not only is it fallacious, it's self-contradictory!
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ITT- AstroFag + Shill army vs Truth Seekers and Lightworkers
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...

this.
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"Amateur Astronomer" just means you don't get paid to do it, you do it as a hobby. Being an amateur astronomer doesn't automatically make you inferior to a professional astronomer.

Astronomer (Professional) - People who earn money from astronomy.
Amateur Astronomer - People who spend money for astronomy :)
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So by your reasoning, a 2nd year resident just 2 years out of med school is a professional doctor insomuch as 2nd year residents get paid (however paltry!)?

So if her specialty is ortho, then you would have no problem taking your daughter to this 2nd year resident for a cervical fusion?
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You can denigrate my experience as much as you like, everybody knows I am a shill. I voted Kenyan Marxist btw.
Write Dr. Matese or Dr. Whitmire an email and ask them WHY THEY ARE NASA SHILLS LIKE ASTRO.
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"Amateur Astronomer" just means you don't get paid to do it, you do it as a hobby. Being an amateur astronomer doesn't automatically make you inferior to a professional astronomer.

Astronomer (Professional) - People who earn money from astronomy.
Amateur Astronomer - People who spend money for astronomy :)
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So by your reasoning, a 2nd year resident just 2 years out of med school is a professional doctor insomuch as 2nd year residents get paid (however paltry!)?

So if her specialty is ortho, then you would have no problem taking your daughter to this 2nd year resident for a cervical fusion?
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You can denigrate my experience as much as you like, everybody knows I am a shill. I voted Kenyan Marxist btw.
Write Dr. Matese or Dr. Whitmire an email and ask them WHY THEY ARE NASA SHILLS LIKE ASTRO.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

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Wow, thank you for once again illustrating the level of intellect of your average nibirutard. Not a single one of the words you put in my mouth just now had any truth to it. The truth is not in you.
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So by your reasoning, a 2nd year resident just 2 years out of med school is a professional doctor insomuch as 2nd year residents get paid (however paltry!)?

So if her specialty is ortho, then you would have no problem taking your daughter to this 2nd year resident for a cervical fusion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 630311


You can denigrate my experience as much as you like, everybody knows I am a shill. I voted Kenyan Marxist btw.
Write Dr. Matese or Dr. Whitmire an email and ask them WHY THEY ARE NASA SHILLS LIKE ASTRO.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

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Wow, thank you for once again illustrating the level of intellect of your average nibirutard. Not a single one of the words you put in my mouth just now had any truth to it. The truth is not in you.
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.. changing quotes is deplorable and unnecessary.
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You can denigrate my experience as much as you like, everybody knows I am a shill. I voted Kenyan Marxist btw.
Write Dr. Matese or Dr. Whitmire an email and ask them WHY THEY ARE NASA SHILLS LIKE ASTRO.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

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Wow, thank you for once again illustrating the level of intellect of your average nibirutard. Not a single one of the words you put in my mouth just now had any truth to it. The truth is not in you.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


.. changing quotes is deplorable and unnecessary.
 Quoting: Waterbug

Maybe it's a post by an agent provocateur to discredit legitimate anger or maybe it's messy, disorganized, visceral anger directed at someone who wants us dead. You seem to be a little too close to the source, ignorance or witting participant?
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Good video , Thanks OP hf

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check this

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Good video , Thanks OP hf

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check this


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so all infra-red data comes from same source.....why the missing data?
Any comments on this vid Astromut?
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Wow, thank you for once again illustrating the level of intellect of your average nibirutard. Not a single one of the words you put in my mouth just now had any truth to it. The truth is not in you.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


.. changing quotes is deplorable and unnecessary.
 Quoting: Waterbug

Maybe it's a post by an agent provocateur to discredit legitimate anger or maybe it's messy, disorganized, visceral anger directed at someone who wants us dead. You seem to be a little too close to the source, ignorance or witting participant?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18663132


Actually.. he probably hates my guts for challenging his moral authority..

I still don't condone the actions of the editing poster.
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The recent FEMA commercial with the family floating in mid air and dad is trying to get to the BoB. Did any of yoy notice that the HOUSE WAS UPSIDE DOWN. Saly Chaly Nemesis has already did the flip thingy with the earth. Soooo where are YOU GOING FAMILY?
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Are the earth changes and weather anomalies caused by Humans? Or something that no knows or willing to reveal?

If something is a miss, then why is this world of science not addressing a problem with investigation. With which they would reveal their theories to the public. Besides Carbon Taxing.

Something is missing here...and the answers or the questions are not coming. I believe this is where all the mistrust lies.

Enjoying the ride.... Nothing to see here.
Carry on stock piling the seed vault though.
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For all that are still new to GLP Astro is a shill or a kid with a Telescope that the got at his birthday so he can brag about his knowledge.

If you have a observation that cost like 10 million then i would likely believe you but with the information you can get from your equipment is a joke as in Space the bigger they get the better your Sensor needs to be as you wont see a thing because the changes will be only dramatic if its to late.

This is why we need to calculate the number Pi to a million Price to safely land on a object.

Astro your Charisma is going down every time you blabering about your astro skills so please be quite and let the kids read the story's.
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Excellent, excellent, excellent! smile_kiss
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Except that it's wrong, wrong, wrong:


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wow...he'so smart! He need to get GLP Nobel/shill/asshole Prize
Your boyfriend must be proud!
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so the OP presents a video that is completely proven wrong. (if you go back past 2007 you will see that this is a normal cycle for Jupiter)

the pictures of strange weather date back to before 2003. so his claim that its effecting weather is false.

and then someone posts a very logical video containing MORE info about orbits and astronomy. containing actual scientific data from multiple sources. and contains more scientific data and proof then the original video that only has Data from one source video.

and you call him a shill.. you nibiru kids have lost your minds. literally. you have no logic. and you make yourself look even worse by making comments like this. i

if you really want to prove a point. then the Data will do it for you. not your attitude or ability to make fun of someone..

and not being able to obtain said data cant be overlooked by simply saying. "its a cover up"
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For all that are still new to GLP Astro is a shill or a kid with a Telescope that the got at his birthday so he can brag about his knowledge.

If you have a observation that cost like 10 million then i would likely believe you but with the information you can get from your equipment is a joke as in Space the bigger they get the better your Sensor needs to be as you wont see a thing because the changes will be only dramatic if its to late.

This is why we need to calculate the number Pi to a million Price to safely land on a object.

Astro your Charisma is going down every time you blabering about your astro skills so please be quite and let the kids read the story's.
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so a kid with a telescope makes him less credible, but some random guy on youtube that we know nothing about makes nibiru real.

Nibiru kids are making themselves look stupid. not astro
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Dr. Schumaker was ready to publish his report on why Saturn and Uranus orbits were further south of the ecliptic. He knew where to look and took pictures of Planet X...then he was killed in freak accident...the next day his laboratory burned to the ground...working with Schumaker was Dr. Harrington....only person I know to be diagnosed with cancer and dead within two months. A group of Astonomers with ties to the Vatican were going to spend a week doing deep field searches with Microwave dishes and Infra Red telescopes...cable broke on their gondola...all dead! Compare transits through same telescope....here are those links.

GLP EXPERT'S....HIT IT!!!

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My father was dead five weeks weeks after being diagnosed with cancer.

Nibirutards strike again.
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...

this.
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"Amateur Astronomer" just means you don't get paid to do it, you do it as a hobby. Being an amateur astronomer doesn't automatically make you inferior to a professional astronomer.

Astronomer (Professional) - People who earn money from astronomy.
Amateur Astronomer - People who spend money for astronomy :)
 Quoting: BoxerLvr


So by your reasoning, a 2nd year resident just 2 years out of med school is a professional doctor insomuch as 2nd year residents get paid (however paltry!)?

So if her specialty is ortho, then you would have no problem taking your daughter to this 2nd year resident for a cervical fusion?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 630311


You can denigrate my experience as much as you like, but that doesn't change the fact that your argument is a logical fallacy. This is not medicine and this is not surgery, I have presented my methods and my data so anyone can repeat what I have done. The substance of what I present is all that matters, you have failed to address it.

In science, when research is presented at conference presentations, you do not attack the presenter if they do not yet have their PhD simply because they're a student, even if their findings are controversial. You address the substance of their material, their methods, or you shut the hell up. You have chosen to engage in appeals to authority and relentlessly fallacious logic, even though professional astronomers agree with me that Harrington was wrong.

Write Dr. Matese or Dr. Whitmire an email and ask them if Harrington's hypothetical planet is real or not. Ask them if Dr. Standish was right. Matese and Whitmire have their own hypothetical planet they think is somewhere out near the Oort cloud, Tyche, but even they would admit that Harrington's Planet X hypothesis was simply wrong.

In fact the posters who have cited Harrington have themselves made claims that directly contradict Harrington's own research. They do so without so much as a shred of supporting evidence or even an acknowledgement that they're contradicting the person whose authority they're appealing to! Not only is it fallacious, it's self-contradictory!
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Thank you for your words.

Again, please do not misapprehend my words. There is no denigration of your experience AT ALL. Properly understood, denigration OF experience is tomfoolery. And there is little precious time for that, friend. So let us get right down to brass tacks, shall we?


Doc Astro wrote: "In science, when research is presented at conference presentations, you do not attack the presenter if they do not yet have their PhD simply because they're a student, even if their findings are controversial. You address the substance of their material, their methods, or you shut the hell up."

Surgery is not a science? Medicine is not science? When did you complete your residency? Or do you not have a past reference for what medical science is and are therefore talking out your ass about a subject matter whereof you are wholly ignorant?

And to whose authority do you now appeal in order to make these statements? In medical conferences, students do not attend BECAUSE they are students. Students usually know innately to shut the hell up from the start in view of the professional's experience and understanding of that which they wish to LEARN, FROM THE PROFESSIONAL. Or perhaps in the land of PhD's the student is on the same level as the professional?

Perhaps this is not surgery; however this trifling detail obviates the fissure in the poster's logic I revealed through illustration? Again, if anyone repeated the steps you took to arrive at your findings, they would necessarily have to find what you found. I hardly think this would further science?

Dr Astro wrote: "You have chosen to engage in appeals to authority and relentlessly fallacious logic, even though professional astronomers agree with me that Harrington was wrong. "

So for the second time in this thread...

Presented above is a poster who accuses another poster of appeal to authority; yet in the second component of the SAME STATEMENT she appeals to the authority of professionals to bolster HER argument!!

It would be utterly tragic to see this emanate from the mind of a purported PhD if not for the comedic aspect of it all.

It seems the good doctor's words become an instance of her own complaint.

Moreover, it strikes me as interesting, to such extent it is revealing, that for a purported PhD you sure do spend an awful lot of time on a website such as this. Persons of your stripe demonstrating such high intellectual pedigree would probably give a wide berth to a site whose main demographic is adolescent boys?
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The problem with names such as nibiru, planet x etc has taken such a divert tangent seeming ridiculous new age stuff easily debunk or ridiculed, it will require page after page of infallible non detabable proof that it exists, it is out there, even for those that will still argue well, if it really exists why NASA has not announced it? The reality is it did, it has back in 1983, you just need to search and look i n te right places t know the truth is out there, not my truth or yours but empirical scientific truth of a celestial body tugging and perturbing. I can not stressed this enough do your research, you might not like what yu might find on this celestial body but it is coming by late november 2012
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For all that are still new to GLP Astro is a shill or a kid with a Telescope that the got at his birthday so he can brag about his knowledge.

If you have a observation that cost like 10 million then i would likely believe you but with the information you can get from your equipment is a joke as in Space the bigger they get the better your Sensor needs to be as you wont see a thing because the changes will be only dramatic if its to late.

This is why we need to calculate the number Pi to a million Price to safely land on a object.

Astro your Charisma is going down every time you blabering about your astro skills so please be quite and let the kids read the story's.
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so a kid with a telescope makes him less credible, but some random guy on youtube that we know nothing about makes nibiru real.

Nibiru kids are making themselves look stupid. not astro
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No one said that the youtuber is right i just said that astro comes like dog to all Nibiru threads to telling people how dump they are.
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Good video , Thanks OP hf

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check this


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so all infra-red data comes from same source.....why the missing data?
Any comments on this vid Astromut?
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This gets discussed at least once a week on GLP and the answer never changes. The IRAS data is mostly from an 1983 IRAS sky survey and is 30 years old and wasn't complete. It is slowly getting replaced with WISE IRAS sky data that is 2-4 years old.

The data will probably get updated again in another 20 years.

If you are using a virtual telescope IRAS setting and Nibiru entered the solar system less than 3 years ago you will very likely be using it as a tombstone for 15 years before you can see it coming in a virtual telescope program.

This is actually pretty good. Most of the visible light data for the virtual telescopes is from sky surveys POSS1 and POSS2 which were performed over 1/2 century ago.

And besides, "infrared only" objects don't exist. If Nibiru is Jupiter sized or larger it's albedo (brightness) would be higher than earth's which is about 0.3.
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Isn't there already a thread on this?

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Good video , Thanks OP hf

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check this


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so all infra-red data comes from same source.....why the missing data?
Any comments on this vid Astromut?
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This gets discussed at least once a week on GLP and the answer never changes. The IRAS data is mostly from an 1983 IRAS sky survey and is 30 years old and wasn't complete. It is slowly getting replaced with WISE IRAS sky data that is 2-4 years old.

The data will probably get updated again in another 20 years.

If you are using a virtual telescope IRAS setting and Nibiru entered the solar system less than 3 years ago you will very likely be using it as a tombstone for 15 years before you can see it coming in a virtual telescope program.

This is actually pretty good. Most of the visible light data for the virtual telescopes is from sky surveys POSS1 and POSS2 which were performed over 1/2 century ago.

And besides, "infrared only" objects don't exist. If Nibiru is Jupiter sized or larger it's albedo (brightness) would be higher than earth's which is about 0.3.
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Why do they say albedo instead of brightness. Is it more scientific or astrosomething?
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laymans opinion here, but surely the fact the stars all move in the background of the shots indicates that the maker of the video is outright wrong?

are all the stars being perturbed as well?

astro is right, SOHO is moving in orbit, so of course the images are going to be different.

surely thats an easy concept to grasp?

id imagine if he included images from every year his perfect 'perturbance' images wouldnt work anymore. hence the jumping from 2000 to 2007, then 2012.

whoever made this video just wasted a shit load of time on something that seems rather dim witted to me.

jeeez, some of you guys are really gullible, whats it like believing in fairy tale destroyer planets?

what else do you believe that is total nonsense?

all i ever see from nibiru 'proof' videos, is easily debunked intellectual dishonesty.

so my analysis of the nibiru tards, is that they must be one of the following 3 possibilities:

1: Gullible
2: Stupid
3: Intellectually dishonest

take your pick!
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I differ from Turkey AC statemnet about brightness, majority of research(renowned astrophysicists)have determined celestial planet ( X Nibiru etc whatever you might want to call it) as a brown dwarf emiting only a dull light within narrow range so what you are saying is not feasible, if I undestood your post correctly.
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