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Really need help about lucid dreams/OBE

 
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08/22/2012 05:28 AM
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A word on drugs.

Your body makes a schedule one drug (U.S.).

DMT. Google.

It also manufactures the beta-carbolines to trigger.

These two are released and are responsible for REM... dream state.

Taps of spinal fluid have revealed this fact.

There are internal chi-kungs that give one control over the body's internal chemistry set.
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08/22/2012 05:31 AM
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As I stated...

I'm very experienced.

OBE, lucid dreaming.... just a facet of a larger experience range.

And a subject I know experientially.

Not via books.


And, I went very far, never taking the obvious for answers, always questioning.

I can tell you this.

If YOU do the same, you will find....

Well, if you're intent on Going all the way, you'll find out for yourself.
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08/22/2012 06:11 AM
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Now I'm going to cart out a bit more information.

This is anecdotal and is not advice.

Don't mess.

It is historical information only.



The second poster mentioned plants.

Any witch, magician (as in magick), curandero, brujo, shaman familiar with plants, fungi... knows that

solanaceous alkaloids are the lucid dream plant extradonaire.

Effective doses are dangerous. Very.

They can cause permanent heart damage. Hence some of the formulas that include(d) foxglove (digitalis, a heart stimulant) to try and stave off that potential damage.

They can also cause death.

And entail a 3 day experience.

A death trip, with the said effective dose for this purpose.

That is because, there is a, "going down."
And then, "getting up," for the run of the thing.

Sometimes the, "going down," is permanent. Death.

Another historical tidbit.

On the west coast of the U.S. a certain group of people experienced in such would dig the root of datura from a hillside.

They would also boil up and then down some tree tobacco leaves to add.
This was to induce a type of paralysis, mirroring sleep paralysis.
The dosage to accomplish this was very critical, as an error would mean a person would not be able to breath.... and would die.

On with the show....

The line between waking and sleeping, day to day, "reality," and dreaming.... was/is breached, after a very pointed fashion.

Those who felt called, or because of societal stipulation, went this route to achieve experience in dream world matters.

There are those who have have been victimized by the very same solanaceous alkaloids.
The Thuggees (from whence we get the word, "thug,") of India, worshipers of Kali, employed datura to drug victims.
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I have displayed a fraction of my credentials on this subject.

With that, I will also provide some information that may very well be valuable.

There are many entities encountered in dream world excursions.

Many shape shifters.

Many.... and some here won't like the word, but I do know what I'm talking about.... demons. Spirit entities that are your enemy... though they often appear as, "friends/teachers/guides,"... until and unless you wise up to the tricks.

The more aware you become... are... the more you will come to realize this fact.

I advise all to read the first gospel of John in the New Testament.

Explorers will at some point need to avail themselves of the power in the name, "Jesus Christ."

Let me state that a rose by any other name is still a rose.

It is the fact that the figure of Jesus Christ is/was actually who he said he is.

"Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

Those who are less experienced can now continue the chime of dream journals and book references.

As you may tell, I am not of that ilk.
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08/22/2012 06:30 AM
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Re: Really need help about lucid dreams/OBE
Read Robert Monroe.
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08/22/2012 06:33 AM
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read "Lucid Dreaming" by Stephen LaBerge Ph.D.
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08/23/2012 08:58 PM

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[link to www.sanctusgermanus.net]

This is a really good explanation on Astral Entities.
"The Great Central Sun is One with every individual's Mighty I AM Presence."
"I invoke the mighty I AM presence to flood our world with light, perfection, wisdom, love, abundance and protection."

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