I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible | |
William_the_Bloody User ID: 20712268 United States 08/19/2012 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible The spirit stream animating the body is always whole, and no, it cannot die, in spite of yourself... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21789624 The body, your spirit is animating is a whole other matter... The body is corrupt, and a battle is raging for who will dominate - the spirit or the body??? In earther body's, there is a major challenge - due to genetic altering and manipulation, and the many pressures of society... It is a challenge, but, it is the major reason you are here...Many dead ends and obstacles placed in your way, of which the christ concept is a whopper for some people... Canada - I get what you're about and up to. I bid you good luck with all that and let me know how it works ooot for you. I'm with Christ. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21500116 Canada 08/19/2012 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible "Something's Got A Hold On Me" Rev. James Cleveland [link to www.youtube.com] When I feel life energy I get joy, God's joy. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22004478 Spain 08/19/2012 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible Maybe Im exagerating..I feel the place is cursed and rotten to the core..and it has the ability to corrupt all that it touches unless one is spiritually whole Quoting: wildhoney Nobody is spiritually whole, that is a lie of this world that it's even possible. You will be corrupted. The ultimate clue that you are still under corruption is the corruption of the flesh through Death. Those who are corrupt will die, and those who are perfect cannot be killed. Christ resurrected, and in Christ we become Occultishly Cleansed. It is the only escape, unless you want to reincarnate for millions of years. Only problem with this is that there aren't many generations left. maybe this IS the last generation |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20675956 United Kingdom 08/19/2012 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible once youve changed there is no turning back..one is only kidding oneself.. I think one wont be happy untill and unless one follows the path..with kindred spirits..not a hermit Well I have shit loads of bad karma to sublimate and I need people and this world I inhabit to help me do that, I have been provided with the tools and withdrawing is not an advance its a side step, maybe to be retrodden at a later date. nice thread |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22004478 Spain 08/19/2012 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible And how many love the church above its members *question mark* when someone is suffering..or is in pain or needs help..words sometimes arent enough..help is needed..tangible help To be there for eachother..to love eachother..so no one is left out in the cold words wont cut it.. words are cheap and easy.. and gone with the wind |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22004478 Spain 08/19/2012 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible thats not what Christ did when anyone came to Him to ask for help..He helped.. he didnt say..keep your suffering and dont bother me or some well sounding words He cured..He healed in body and soul when they were hungry..He didnt say..tough..sit and shut up and listen to my words He fed them..with fish and bread too many good sounding words so easy |
William_the_Bloody User ID: 20712268 United States 08/19/2012 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible And how many love the church above its members *question mark* Quoting: wildhoney when someone is suffering..or is in pain or needs help..words sometimes arent enough..help is needed..tangible help To be there for eachother..to love eachother..so no one is left out in the cold words wont cut it.. words are cheap and easy.. and gone with the wind Church doesn't de-corrupt people. If a church doesn't help people, it's because the people who are members are still corrupt human beings. We are all corrupt until we die, and then we are either saved or lost. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22004478 Spain 08/19/2012 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible To take that little effort to be of help.. If someone comes to you asking for help..maybe God sent them.. Too often one is told to accept the suffering.. oh absolute rubbish! when did Christ say that *question mark* Did He refuse anyone when He was asked for help *question mark* Did He send them off with a couple of nice scriptural quotes *question mark* telling them to continue hungry..or sick..or invalid..or blind *did he* Did he tell the fihermen too bad they couldnt fish *question mark* Did he refuse to turn the water into wine *question mark* he gave..and gave..and gave..putting Himself last No..He went out of His way to be of help in every way because that was Christ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3651998 United States 08/19/2012 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible Avoiding the "corrupt" world is selfish. IMHO I believe its more important to be a ray of sunshine in a stormy world than to go hide in a cave alone. You can participate without embracing and be an example for change without being a leader. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22004478 Spain 08/19/2012 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible Avoiding the "corrupt" world is selfish. IMHO I believe its more important to be a ray of sunshine in a stormy world than to go hide in a cave alone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3651998 You can participate without embracing and be an example for change without being a leader. for those that suffer.. but for the silliness I just couldnt be bothered |
William_the_Bloody User ID: 20712268 United States 08/19/2012 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible Avoiding the "corrupt" world is selfish. IMHO I believe its more important to be a ray of sunshine in a stormy world than to go hide in a cave alone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3651998 You can participate without embracing and be an example for change without being a leader. Sometimes helping the world is to remove yourself from it. If only Hitler had been Monastic, for example. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21789624 Canada 08/19/2012 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible The only way to win the game, is to remove yourself from it... In the big picture, a polarity player cannot win - they are locked in to an eternal loop... That goes for darksiders and lightsiders... |
William_the_Bloody User ID: 20712268 United States 08/20/2012 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible The only way to win the game, is to remove yourself from it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21789624 In the big picture, a polarity player cannot win - they are locked in to an eternal loop... That goes for darksiders and lightsiders... This may be fundamentally true, but the problem is that (right now) we are in Negative polarity (whether you choose to understand that or not) and from this perspective we do not have a proper frame of reference. In other words, when we truly get to experience existence in Positive Polarity, we may find that we quite like it for a time. From there, it will be much easier to take one's self out of the game and meld with the one. From this current perspective we are offered only traps and illusions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1465884 United States 08/20/2012 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible Hi. I'm a big advocate of being in the world without being of the world. This being said, I think we all need to be aware of our own areas of temptation, and if there is some place or person that we need to stay away from then so be it. Think of the alcoholic who chooses not to go to bars. I do think, however, the number of places we can go and people we can be around far outweigh the number we should avoid. The great commission begins with the word, "Go", and if we pray and rely on the HS then we will find how we are to proceed. And by all means, involve others as well. We need not be going out into the world by ourselves. That's what the body is for (among other things). Christians isolating themselves does nothing in advancing the good news. It's just not what is planned for us. Plus it makes Christ's representatives seem weird and freaky, and there have already been too many incidences in history of whacky Christians tarnishing Jesus in non-believers' eyes. |
spiritfilled111 User ID: 20151172 Canada 08/20/2012 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible Ive been pondering.. Quoting: wildhoney and flip flopping.. well maybe yes..maybe not etc.. but after today and a conversation I had with someone very of the fallen world..and the lesson learned from the info received..I have personally no doubt..it was eye opening and very disappointing in many many ways.. I think one has to be very stong in every way to entertain the fallen world and not be influenced by it in some way or other I personally feel the solution is to have as little to do with it as possible and that is what I intend to do God Willing Jesus was around the fallen world constantly. spiritual growth comes from overcoming the fallen world and transforming it, not hiding from it. obedience and relationship with God is our source of growth and power! :seal::seal: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8342996 Canada 08/20/2012 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible What is around you? Positive and negative. All you need to do is balance. What is spirituality? Being highly aware of your spirit? Your higher self? You must be that of which pulses of spirit. You must be everything. Be creation. Be sincere, humble, passive. Having a job or not having a job? Being spiritually advanced in both situations benefits you anyway. Do you really need anymore benefits from outside of you? Or that which is within? Perhaps it maybe a talent, a passion. Passion unites us all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22000524 United Kingdom 08/20/2012 02:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible And how many love the church above its members *question mark* Quoting: wildhoney when someone is suffering..or is in pain or needs help..words sometimes arent enough..help is needed..tangible help To be there for eachother..to love eachother..so no one is left out in the cold words wont cut it.. words are cheap and easy.. and gone with the wind Church doesn't de-corrupt people. If a church doesn't help people, it's because the people who are members are still corrupt human beings. We are all corrupt until we die, and then we are either saved or lost. we are as corrupted as we choose to be church doesn't de-corrupt people- that's true - but people who go to church are only denied de-corruption by themselves one thing that might keep them corrupted is the belief that they are corrupt until they die and can't DO anything to alter that we are all saved btw -no-one is lost in the grand scheme of things - we might just take many more life times to realise that and we are NOT the last generation - why would we stop evolving when we haven't achieved perfection physically and spiritually? physically - we have come a long way- spiritually - we have a long way to go |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22004478 Spain 08/20/2012 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible I think we are the last generation in this dimension we call reality I think something is in the making and it will change everything reality will continue I believe..but different..and the ones who will inherit it will not be as we are now wether we inherit it or not remains to be seen |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22004478 Spain 08/20/2012 03:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible Many are ready..very ready..and its because of this ..and because its the season..that the change will happen..thats what I believe This incongruence will end..and with it all the knuckle dragging drolling spiritual primitiveness my opinion Im actually quite surprised it lasted so long I think the reason is that it was waiting fo soemthing concrete to happen a process had to come to a head and I think it has because of this.. I believe the change will happen for this reality..this world to continue as it is.. oh no I absolutely totally firmly believe that it wont this is the last generation I believe this |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22004478 Spain 08/20/2012 03:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible and lets face it how many of us want this to happen? independent of wether we make it or not? or do you wantbthis to continue for Gods Creation to be in the hands of of morons that live in a deluded concept of reality and in denial of who they really are and what their destiny is? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 22004478 Spain 08/20/2012 03:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible The Creators wishes are reality The Earth and its Creator are one.. What the Creator wishes happens.. The love bond between the two is unbreakable The earth belongs to its Creator and the Creator is saving it and renewing it and gently handing it over to those that have earned it All the above my opinion |
Abe Fatso User ID: 1159240 Cyprus 08/20/2012 03:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I believe the quickest way to advance spiritually is to have as little to do with the fallen world as possible The Creator has Supreme power..and decides..and cant be bought with silly sacrifices and number games Quoting: wildhoney I am sure The Creator has, is and will continue to guide you. Wait for it...and remember: Madness (not the common american meaning of the word) is real and it is contagious. If you remember this, you can avoid getting too much contamination |
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