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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22043822  United States08/19/2012 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22043822 Prove it. Otherwise, keep your myths to yourself. Telling me I'm going to hell is like a child telling me the boogeyman is going to get me. The Bible is proof enough, if you can't hear God's word, nothing I say will break you free from your bondage to sin. How is the bible proof of the bible? That makes no sense. You're telling me if I write a book that makes wild claims, all I have to do to provide proof that this book is telling the truth is write a line IN THE BOOK that says "This book is telling the truth."? Prophecy is The Standard - Bible is 100% accurate prophetically speaking! No, actually it's not. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22043822 United States08/19/2012 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Needles Eye The Bible is proof enough, if you can't hear God's word, nothing I say will break you free from your bondage to sin. How is the bible proof of the bible? That makes no sense. You're telling me if I write a book that makes wild claims, all I have to do to provide proof that this book is telling the truth is write a line IN THE BOOK that says "This book is telling the truth."? Prophecy is The Standard - Bible is 100% accurate prophetically speaking! No, actually it's not. Every prophecy in the bible has either been claimed BY THE BIBLE to have occurred(without any actual proof outside the bible claiming it happened) or is so vague that you would never know whether it happened or not. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 571677 United States08/19/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: jdb You go to hell of your own volition- by your own choice! God IS Loving and has provided a way of escape - take it, it's free to you and I That's terrible logic. I can't go to hell without god sending me there and creating hell in the first place. Using your logic if I put a gun to your head and say "Obey me or I kill you", and I tell you to kill your family and you refuse, it would be your fault that I shot you, not mine. It's not *my* logic - it is The Word of The Most High God! Your problem is not with my words, it is with His Word! Your choice...plain and simple as that! You will have no one to blame and indeed will confess He Is The Most High God on Judgment Day! You completely failed to address my point. Would those two situations now be the same, and would I not be responsible for shooting you? Your *point* is based in circular reasoning - kinda like statistics...can make 'em say what you want them to say! Here's the real point - you are rejecting The Grace of The Most High God! Have the integrity to call it what it is..and then live with it! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3651998 United States08/19/2012 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good thing we are having this pointless argument. Keep the divide and conquer nonsense going. Get it out of your system and get ready for next weeks GLP distraction: Race. That's right folks gay bashing until midnight tonight then mindless racism all week. |
| christian Suited up and Armored in Christ!  User ID: 6038128 United States08/19/2012 07:58 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Bottom line is!~ The Government has no buisness in telling parents how to raise there children unless the parent is diralect in there duties or abusing them... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17881200 United States08/19/2012 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't give a fuck what "political correctness" dictates: homosexuality is a choice, in at least some cases. To say that people never choose to be gay is just indicative of willful ignorance. Quoting: fadeinlight It is important that we -do- teach our children about the dangers of homosexual behavior--if not for religious purposes, then at the very least for the sake of their health. For instance, few people know this (you'd think it would be a big story), but 49% of all people that have AIDS are gay, and that men who have sex with other men are 44 times more likely to contract AIDS than the average person. This isn't a couple of factoids taken from some religious blog; they're stone-cold facts taken from the Center for Disease control: [link to www.cdc.gov] I can't wait to get out of this state. Hey genius, that means 51% the people with aids are straight. Which means you are more likely to get it if you're straight. So by your logic, you should immediately stop having sex with women and start having sex with men. It's in your best interest % wise. However, since you're new to this. You should probably start with just handjobs. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 571677 United States08/19/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22043822 How is the bible proof of the bible? That makes no sense. You're telling me if I write a book that makes wild claims, all I have to do to provide proof that this book is telling the truth is write a line IN THE BOOK that says "This book is telling the truth."? Prophecy is The Standard - Bible is 100% accurate prophetically speaking! No, actually it's not. Every prophecy in the bible has either been claimed BY THE BIBLE to have occurred(without any actual proof outside the bible claiming it happened) or is so vague that you would never know whether it happened or not. You know not what you speak of - go out and buy Carl Gallups "Magic Man in The Sky" Amazon - here's the link: [link to www.amazon.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17881200 United States08/19/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No it doesn't....However it is suppose to live by moral and ethics that is good for society and generations to come... To tell a parent they cannot guide there Children into Adulthood without Government Interference is Facism.... We are start to see NAZI's in the Government covered in Sheep's Clothing... They can guide them asshat, they just can't force the gay out of them like it's a demon in a horror movie. Sheesh. Why not force the gay out of them if it is possible? It's not like it's what I'd call desirable. That's because you're straight moron. Why not just force the straight out of you? Think it would be pleasing? |
| optimusprimate User ID: 13446053  United Kingdom08/19/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silly government trying teach parents how to parent. Dresses fabulous? YOU'VE GOT A GAAAY. Seriously this isn't anything todo with some depopulation agenda at all, besides, I'm sure there are much faster ways to achieve it than bills like these. Honestly, who gives a shit? Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? ~Epicurus 33 A.D I am being held down by four greys as i type this ~ Florence 2015 A.D |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22043822 United States08/19/2012 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22043822 That's terrible logic. I can't go to hell without god sending me there and creating hell in the first place. Using your logic if I put a gun to your head and say "Obey me or I kill you", and I tell you to kill your family and you refuse, it would be your fault that I shot you, not mine. It's not *my* logic - it is The Word of The Most High God! Your problem is not with my words, it is with His Word! Your choice...plain and simple as that! You will have no one to blame and indeed will confess He Is The Most High God on Judgment Day! You completely failed to address my point. Would those two situations now be the same, and would I not be responsible for shooting you? Your *point* is based in circular reasoning - kinda like statistics...can make 'em say what you want them to say! Here's the real point - you are rejecting The Grace of The Most High God! Have the integrity to call it what it is..and then live with it! There is nothing circular about my point at all, it is just an analogy. I'm not trying to make you say anything; you're just avoiding having to reply to it because you know I'm right, otherwise you'd have no problem explaining why I'm wrong. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 571677 United States08/19/2012 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good thing we are having this pointless argument. Keep the divide and conquer nonsense going. Get it out of your system and get ready for next weeks GLP distraction: Race. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3651998 That's right folks gay bashing until midnight tonight then mindless racism all week. "gay bashing"? No! Trying to save lives! |
| christian Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States08/19/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | California is now run by Bleeding heart lefty Liberals that is why Obama has Campaigned here like 20 times already! Gov Brown has done ZERO of anything..I know..I live here.. Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22043822 United States08/19/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every prophecy in the bible has either been claimed BY THE BIBLE to have occurred(without any actual proof outside the bible claiming it happened) or is so vague that you would never know whether it happened or not. You know not what you speak of - go out and buy Carl Gallups "Magic Man in The Sky" Amazon - here's the link: [link to www.amazon.com] I know exactly of what I speak of. I spent most of my life as a Christian arguing on message boards with Atheists calling them idiots until I realized I could never find any reason why I believed in god, especially since I always failed to find any credible evidence of the bible being anything but an old religious myth. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1139115  Canada08/19/2012 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| christian Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States08/19/2012 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: christian No it doesn't....However it is suppose to live by moral and ethics that is good for society and generations to come... To tell a parent they cannot guide there Children into Adulthood without Government Interference is Facism.... We are start to see NAZI's in the Government covered in Sheep's Clothing... They can guide them asshat, they just can't force the gay out of them like it's a demon in a horror movie. Sheesh. Why not force the gay out of them if it is possible? It's not like it's what I'd call desirable. That's because you're straight moron. Why not just force the straight out of you? Think it would be pleasing? It is PLEASING for a Child to grow up with his Mother and Father and live in a CIVILIZED WORLD where it is an Honor to have your MOM and DAD love and want to care for you... That is very PLEASING and SACRED.... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22262211 United Kingdom08/19/2012 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this evil legislation passes, teaching your children Christianity or the Bible will be effectively made illegal. Quoting: Needles Eye Religious indoctrination is child abuse of the worst kind. It has ruined America. All you do is perpetuate the bullshit of your ancestors, and destroy your children's minds in the process. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1139115 Canada08/19/2012 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every prophecy in the bible has either been claimed BY THE BIBLE to have occurred(without any actual proof outside the bible claiming it happened) or is so vague that you would never know whether it happened or not. You know not what you speak of - go out and buy Carl Gallups "Magic Man in The Sky" Amazon - here's the link: [link to www.amazon.com] I know exactly of what I speak of. I spent most of my life as a Christian arguing on message boards with Atheists calling them idiots until I realized I could never find any reason why I believed in god, especially since I always failed to find any credible evidence of the bible being anything but an old religious myth.  |
| optimusprimate User ID: 13446053 United Kingdom08/19/2012 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [quote= someone talking sense] That's because you're straight moron. Why not just force the straight out of you? Think it would be pleasing? [end quote] THIS. Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? ~Epicurus 33 A.D I am being held down by four greys as i type this ~ Florence 2015 A.D |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17881200 United States08/19/2012 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing is being forced down your throat. You can't change someone's sexuality; you're either straight or you're not. Could you imagine not being attracted to women(assuming you are a man) all of a sudden? No, because it's not possible. Forcing someone to change their sexuality is wrong, and you are the one who should change; change your view on a person's sexual preferences and quit defining people by who they are attracted to. Judge people on things that matter, such as how they treat other people and how friendly and caring they are, not who they choose to love. Stop spreading hate, and start making this world a better place by being a more caring and loving person who isn't judging and condemning others based on something so silly. An eternity in Hell is "silly"? Your proof of eternal hell is a book written by some guys before they had the benefit of thousands of years of science and education. Silly is trusting that over what you experience with your own senses. Stop relying on scripture, start relying on current knowledge and scientific facts. |
| katiepea User ID: 4707472 United States08/19/2012 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I fail to see how this is forcing anything down anyones throats. Courts already have set precedent thousands of times to protect the emotional well being of children. If you starve your child of food, you go to jail, so you have a legal obligation to feed your child, that doesn't mean you're being forced to make them obese. OP is a fucking dolt. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 571677 United States08/19/2012 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: jdb It's not *my* logic - it is The Word of The Most High God! Your problem is not with my words, it is with His Word! Your choice...plain and simple as that! You will have no one to blame and indeed will confess He Is The Most High God on Judgment Day! You completely failed to address my point. Would those two situations now be the same, and would I not be responsible for shooting you? Your *point* is based in circular reasoning - kinda like statistics...can make 'em say what you want them to say! Here's the real point - you are rejecting The Grace of The Most High God! Have the integrity to call it what it is..and then live with it! There is nothing circular about my point at all, it is just an analogy. I'm not trying to make you say anything; you're just avoiding having to reply to it because you know I'm right, otherwise you'd have no problem explaining why I'm wrong. Your analogy of holding a gun to my head presupposes God is doing the same thing to you - sorry man - God Is and we're not! Let's knock off all this nonsense! God is God, we're not, so let's stop trying to tell God Who He should be and what He should do! Check this irony: Jas 2:19 You believe that there is one God, you do well; even the demons believe and tremble. EVEN the demons tremble...HOWEVER, humans mock! |
| *HAARP Lady* User ID: 12644879 United States08/19/2012 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: *HAARP Lady* You're an idiot, you know that? Did you even READ what I wrote? No, because I think you're a part of the sheeple that agree with the government on everything! MY POINT was if this bill passes then the Gov't can have the right to come into our home to pretty much do anything they like under the guise "monitoring!" And if you'll also read what I read I said the MAJORITY of us know what is good for our children! I despise retards that use the extreme to prove a point! yes... the stupidity today is "of the charts" and you just topped it, moran! ~ Juju The government isn't coming into your house. Paranoid much? They're providing help to innocent children born of stupid parents. You're probably one of those idiots that home schools the kid and has a shotgun and a month of canned food ready for the apocalypse. Your poor kids. Someday they'll run from you and never look back  See? This shows how ignorant you are! If this bill passes then the door will be open for the Gov't to come in and say "I need to see how you're dressing your child!" or "I need to see if your children are being taught the correct curriculum." That is NONE of the Government's business! If I decided to homeschool my child, that's MY business! If I decide that private schooling is the best, that is MY business! If I decide to help my child physically with a diet to help reduce weight (or gain weight, for that matter) that is MY business! As I stated, we (as parents) know what is right for our child! (I presume you have no children? If that is the case, please come back and talk to us when you do!) You know - what's wonderful about GLP is that this is a place where we can "agree to disagree" - in this case I take that stance. ~ Juju Trying to force your kid to be straight is not the same as trying to help your kid eat healthy. It would be like you waking up and your parents deciding you HAD to be gay, and that as long as you lived under their roof, you had to suck of the cable guy for free showtime. I think you'd be looking for some help if that was how your parents CHOSE to raise you. The POINT I was making FROM THE BEGINNING is that this bill is just in "inroad" - nothing to do with having gay children that you want to "heal" - it's about the areas of monitoring on what the government can THINK they have access to in our homes! THAT, my friend, I am totally against!!!! Don't get mad - Get a Pepsi! |
| Needles Eye User ID: 1480101 United States08/19/2012 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this evil legislation passes, teaching your children Christianity or the Bible will be effectively made illegal. Quoting: Needles Eye Religious indoctrination is child abuse of the worst kind. It has ruined America. All you do is perpetuate the bullshit of your ancestors, and destroy your children's minds in the process. Keep telling yourself that hellbound. The things which are impossible with men are possible with God. |
| katiepea User ID: 4707472 United States08/19/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this evil legislation passes, teaching your children Christianity or the Bible will be effectively made illegal. CPS will be called and your children will be taken from you. It is time for Christians to stand up to these wicked and vile men that would pervert our children. Quoting: Needles Eye i would consider removing your childs free will is a lot more evil and playing God. Forcing your child to be something they aren't is treating them much like communist nations treat their citizens. it's not only anti-christian to do this, it's anti-american. if you think a cold strong hand is the way to live, GTFO. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15822494 United States08/19/2012 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They need more gays in the future. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2475575 When the American people wake up and actually realize that gays represent only 2% of the American population... They will be in danger of losing all of their agendas. Most people would think (brainwashed by media) that at least 20% of America is Gay, and that is why we should change everything to accommodate them. America is no longer ruled by majority, but it is ruled by lobbyists and agendas, often those of the minority. And you all let it happen. human sexuality is a continuum, not black or white, everyone's psyche is unique. most men have homosexual tendencies, that's the most normal thing in the world. it's why a whole society could be based upon the concept of the beautiful young male ideal, as in the golden age of greece. ignorance and intolerance are also widespread - some people have a problem with allowing others to express their human potential, often based upon personal insecurities acquired from their own repressive upbringing, which they feel compelled to perpetuate. they'll die off as have old southern racists, for example, while complex sexual variation will always persist in natural humans regardless of time or its open or repressive culture. the human psyche cannot be comfortably straight jacketed. . |
| *HAARP Lady* User ID: 12644879 United States08/19/2012 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I fail to see how this is forcing anything down anyones throats. Courts already have set precedent thousands of times to protect the emotional well being of children. If you starve your child of food, you go to jail, so you have a legal obligation to feed your child, that doesn't mean you're being forced to make them obese. OP is a fucking dolt. Quoting: katiepea Honestly, I think one of the areas the OP was trying to point out is if Government can pass this "bill" it will lead to other areas that they feel they have the right to "monitor" - and honestly that scares me to death! It's not about healing gay children - it's about the future opportunities it opens up to TPTB! Don't get mad - Get a Pepsi! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22261186  Turkey08/19/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree with most of the points here. TPTB is on full force. One thing I can't understand is the Bible references. I know your Book and I respect it, but when you type down verses in old English which a few people understand, there is no effect. Plus there is a created distance. Why don't you guys do the interpretation and tell these people what the verses REALLY mean in plain English? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 571677 United States08/19/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok - I'm out on this one! But please know, all of us WILL bend our knees before The Most High God and proclaim He Is King of kings and Lord of lords...whether you are bending your knees because of The Grace that He has provided or because your kneecaps have been broken by The One Who will Rule the nations with a rod of iron...you WILL bend your knee! Your choice! |
