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I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet

 
moeskyhigh (OP)

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.... yes , but Only up to when the US military Doctrine will call for Nukes to prevent further massive losses , just as it did twice in Japan WW2 !

Hence , the Iranians will shot themselves in the foot Big time thanks to their capability to defeat the Us Navy ... hmmm , I feel almost like someone Realy likes this scenario and is squzeeing in the US carriers in Hormuz to make it easier for the Iranians to shot themselvfs in the foot , Big time ...

For the Iranians it's no-win - no-win situation .
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the only one here shooting itself in the foot is the US if they know they will lose in a conventional war with Iran for them to use nuclear weapons...nuclear weapons is a guaranteed mutual destruction
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thats what the script says, you all should really read it (revelations).
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What alternate universe do you live in?
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the us subs will become tombs at the bottom of the ocean. USA pls stop the games as you know iran's space program is untouchable like mc hammer..

[link to www.keshefoundation.org]
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"Space Program"?!cruise

Are you fuckin shittin me?!slaphim

Iran defeating the U.S.norespect

You people better recount the Olympic medals again! That's just one aspect of how far ahead we are of everyone else!
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If you really believe that, OP, you have NO IDEA of the power and expertise and weapons systems that are at the command of the US Navy. Iran would be nuked back to the stone age were they to find the balls to attack the 5th Fleet. Their major cities and seat of government would be turned to mostly rubble within a matter of a few hours or less.

Should Iran be stupid enough to launch an attack on Israel, they will be facing the Israeli Defense Force AND the US Military. And what's left of Iran may wind up being an Israeli territory and "protectorate" !! That should make all the Muzzies there happy! If any of them survive.

Of course all of Iran's oil income would be seized to pay for the damages and the costs of their own destruction. That revenue stream over ten or twenty years should be quite substantial.
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you just said it yourself...America could not defeat the Iranians without the use of Nukes...this is not WW2 any more...there are many nations who have nukes and would not hesitate to use them if they see a country like Iran is nuked...so that would be America's death warrant
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I sure hope so.....
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Our Navy is simply unstoppable. Our brave men and women are heroes.

We are a global force for good.
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the us subs will become tombs at the bottom of the ocean. USA pls stop the games as you know iran's space program is untouchable like mc hammer..

[link to www.keshefoundation.org]
 Quoting: superfluous moon 22243444


"Space Program"?!cruise

Are you fuckin shittin me?!slaphim

Iran defeating the U.S.norespect

You people better recount the Olympic medals again! That's just one aspect of how far ahead we are of everyone else!
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during the MC2002 exercise.... quote: "Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected"
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Our Navy is simply unstoppable. Our brave men and women are heroes.

We are a global force for good.
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"We are a global force for the good of the USA".

There.. fixed it for ya!.. your welcome

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Our Navy is simply unstoppable. Our brave men and women are heroes.

We are a global force for good.
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global force for good?

LOL

you can't be serious.....
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If you really believe that, OP, you have NO IDEA of the power and expertise and weapons systems that are at the command of the US Navy. Iran would be nuked back to the stone age were they to find the balls to attack the 5th Fleet. Their major cities and seat of government would be turned to mostly rubble within a matter of a few hours or less.

Should Iran be stupid enough to launch an attack on Israel, they will be facing the Israeli Defense Force AND the US Military. And what's left of Iran may wind up being an Israeli territory and "protectorate" !! That should make all the Muzzies there happy! If any of them survive.

Of course all of Iran's oil income would be seized to pay for the damages and the costs of their own destruction. That revenue stream over ten or twenty years should be quite substantial.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20006444


you just said it yourself...America could not defeat the Iranians without the use of Nukes...this is not WW2 any more...there are many nations who have nukes and would not hesitate to use them if they see a country like Iran is nuked...so that would be America's death warrant
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I'm no astronomer but...DAMN! Just have a look and decide for yourself if you think this is normal! Even if it is JUST a star, that thing is as bright as the moon!damned


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 Quoting: NOT Venus! 21880144


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1637914


Iran has proved that they can take down America with Assymetric warfare

remember the corvette navy ships the Israelis lost in the 2006 war??

since WW2, there wasn't any war that caused any amphibious ships to get sunk. not in Korea war, Vietnam, Gulf war, Any Arab - Israeli war until 2006
and a 2000 army group not only sunk 1 but 2 of the amphibious ships that Israel had which was given to by the US Navy...

It's all about strategy my friend.

it was with the use of good strategy that Cyrus with a relatively weak army defeated the mighty empire of Babylon, and it was strategy that a small army from macedonia lead by Alexander defeated the Persian Empire

and that strategy is something US has not been prepared for. It's something new, n the persians have mastered at it
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whatever
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Our Navy is simply unstoppable. Our brave men and women are heroes.

We are a global force for good.
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you were...not anymore...there are new players in the playground

you guys would lose if you go into this war...you must think outside of the box...and read what Marine Corps Lt. General Paul K. Van Riper has to say...he's words are more legitimate than yours
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top Iranian university prof and head of center of Iran's doctrinal strategic studies have something to say to the Americans..to think twice before u head to Iran ..and here's why
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All that made the case for, is total and utter destruction of EVERYTHING in Iran.

If they use civilians as human shields, we'll just go right through it anyways.

Poor case.

Also, when talking about cutting of their C4 communications and command, they're not incorporating the very deadly super-computer virus' that have been unleashed into the wild.

Stuxnet, Flame, etc. etc.

They're designed specifically to root out critical infrastructure systems in target countries and when an attack is to take place, the virus would be activated and many critical systems would go down.

TV, internet, radio, water, power, satellite communication, etc. etc.

Almost like being EMP'd, without being EMP'd.
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I'm no astronomer but...DAMN! Just have a look and decide for yourself if you think this is normal! Even if it is JUST a star, that thing is as bright as the moon!damned


[link to www.youtube.com]

 Quoting: NOT Venus! 21880144


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1637914


Iran has proved that they can take down America with Assymetric warfare

remember the corvette navy ships the Israelis lost in the 2006 war??

since WW2, there wasn't any war that caused any amphibious ships to get sunk. not in Korea war, Vietnam, Gulf war, Any Arab - Israeli war until 2006
and a 2000 army group not only sunk 1 but 2 of the amphibious ships that Israel had which was given to by the US Navy...

It's all about strategy my friend.

it was with the use of good strategy that Cyrus with a relatively weak army defeated the mighty empire of Babylon, and it was strategy that a small army from macedonia lead by Alexander defeated the Persian Empire

and that strategy is something US has not been prepared for. It's something new, n the persians have mastered at it
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whateverstoner
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I'm no astronomer but...DAMN! Just have a look and decide for yourself if you think this is normal! Even if it is JUST a star, that thing is as bright as the moon!damned


[link to www.youtube.com]

 Quoting: NOT Venus! 21880144


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1637914


Iran has proved that they can take down America with Assymetric warfare

remember the corvette navy ships the Israelis lost in the 2006 war??

since WW2, there wasn't any war that caused any amphibious ships to get sunk. not in Korea war, Vietnam, Gulf war, Any Arab - Israeli war until 2006
and a 2000 army group not only sunk 1 but 2 of the amphibious ships that Israel had which was given to by the US Navy...

It's all about strategy my friend.

it was with the use of good strategy that Cyrus with a relatively weak army defeated the mighty empire of Babylon, and it was strategy that a small army from macedonia lead by Alexander defeated the Persian Empire

and that strategy is something US has not been prepared for. It's something new, n the persians have mastered at it
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


whatever
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To block the Persian advance, a small force of Greeks blocked the pass of Thermopylae, while an Athenian-dominated Allied navy engaged the Persian fleet in the nearby straits of Artemisium. In the resulting Battle of Thermopylae, the rearguard of the Greek force was annihilated, whilst in the Battle of Artemisium the Greeks had heavy losses and retreated after the loss at Thermopylae. This allowed the Persians to conquer Boeotia and Attica. The Allies prepared to defend the Isthmus of Corinth whilst the fleet was withdrawn to nearby Salamis Island.

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Just after midnight on July 29, the English sent eight burning ships into the crowded harbor at Calais. The panicked Spanish ships were forced to cut their anchors and sail out to sea to avoid catching fire. The disorganized fleet, completely out of formation, was attacked by the English off Gravelines at dawn. In a decisive battle, the superior English guns won the day, and the devastated Armada was forced to retreat north to Scotland. The English navy pursued the Spanish as far as Scotland and then turned back for want of supplies.

I fucking hope our navy still receives an education in history and the classics.
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If you really believe that, OP, you have NO IDEA of the power and expertise and weapons systems that are at the command of the US Navy. Iran would be nuked back to the stone age were they to find the balls to attack the 5th Fleet. Their major cities and seat of government would be turned to mostly rubble within a matter of a few hours or less.

Should Iran be stupid enough to launch an attack on Israel, they will be facing the Israeli Defense Force AND the US Military. And what's left of Iran may wind up being an Israeli territory and "protectorate" !! That should make all the Muzzies there happy! If any of them survive.

Of course all of Iran's oil income would be seized to pay for the damages and the costs of their own destruction. That revenue stream over ten or twenty years should be quite substantial.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20006444


you just said it yourself...America could not defeat the Iranians without the use of Nukes...this is not WW2 any more...there are many nations who have nukes and would not hesitate to use them if they see a country like Iran is nuked...so that would be America's death warrant
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If the U.S. goes, so does Canada!

So go fuck yourself!s226jerkitawhoretoolaholefuckoff2picktard
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DUH!!! i know that...and i'm not happy about it
US will take us all down
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dream on. Russia and China are your only hope.
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clueless you all beskull_fing
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Our Big ships are Sitting Ducks.................
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Burn a few tankers in the strait to fuck with radar and GPS. Detonate explosives in the water to fuck with sonar signatures.

Lure the US into a narrow strait, beat the hell out of them with cheap but plentiful munitions, run your swifts up into the middle of the crowd.

Attack with all you got in the air, then....


Dear Lord, I hope we have one Admiral in the US Navy that ain't an arrogant careerist moron.
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Our Navy is simply unstoppable. Our brave men and women are heroes.

We are a global force for good.
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global force for good?

LOL

you can't be serious.....
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Very serious.

You sound like s traitor. Your words carry zero weight.
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the us subs will become tombs at the bottom of the ocean. USA pls stop the games as you know iran's space program is untouchable like mc hammer..

[link to www.keshefoundation.org]
 Quoting: superfluous moon 22243444


"Space Program"?!cruise

Are you fuckin shittin me?!slaphim

Iran defeating the U.S.norespect

You people better recount the Olympic medals again! That's just one aspect of how far ahead we are of everyone else!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13283851


during the MC2002 exercise.... quote: "Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected"
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Seriously, how old are you?

The U.S. Navy has been steam rolling ALL through the Persian Gulf, and NOBODY has done a fucking thing about it!

Because NOBODY can!stfu
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because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

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US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
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yeah, um, do you wear one of those leisure suit jackets from the 70's like Ahmadinejad does? Waiting for the little boy who fell down the well hundreds of years ago to come back? See green lights around you when you speak and can only mention chess and rugs as your great accomplishments in life? If so, I TOTALLY understand your posting.
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<a href=" [link to idioms.thefreedictionary.com] goes before a fall</a>

Regardless of your faith, the idiom is sound. I love arrogance, it's the perfect supplement to vanity.

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Proverb 16:18 Pride goeth before the fall....

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the us subs will become tombs at the bottom of the ocean. USA pls stop the games as you know iran's space program is untouchable like mc hammer..

[link to www.keshefoundation.org]
 Quoting: superfluous moon 22243444


"Space Program"?!cruise

Are you fuckin shittin me?!slaphim

Iran defeating the U.S.norespect

You people better recount the Olympic medals again! That's just one aspect of how far ahead we are of everyone else!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13283851


during the MC2002 exercise.... quote: "Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected"
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Seriously, how old are you?

The U.S. Navy has been steam rolling ALL through the Persian Gulf, and NOBODY has done a fucking thing about it!

Because NOBODY can!stfu
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Steamrolling at the cost of billions per day. How do you fight a bigger stronger boxer? Let him punch his self out. Bob, weave, slip, and dance, dance, dance. Then BAM!
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"The last of the old?"

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