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I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet

 
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top Iranian university prof and head of center of Iran's doctrinal strategic studies have something to say to the Americans..to think twice before u head to Iran ..and here's why
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All that made the case for, is total and utter destruction of EVERYTHING in Iran.

If they use civilians as human shields, we'll just go right through it anyways.

Poor case.

Also, when talking about cutting of their C4 communications and command, they're not incorporating the very deadly super-computer virus' that have been unleashed into the wild.

Stuxnet, Flame, etc. etc.

They're designed specifically to root out critical infrastructure systems in target countries and when an attack is to take place, the virus would be activated and many critical systems would go down.

TV, internet, radio, water, power, satellite communication, etc. etc.

Almost like being EMP'd, without being EMP'd.
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yea...but the problem is the C4 command n communications is mobile and are hard to find to send the viruses...the nuclear plants are targeted cuz its locations are well known....my friend..do not underestimate your enemy's capabilities..they downed the RQ 170 that is the one of the most sophisticated that has the same characteristics as the B2 bomber... while the Pentagon said it was crashed into million pieces and then conforming it safely landed but only by itself, not by an outside force..then the Iranians claimed they have cracked its code to receive the intell, the US officials called it bluffing...Iranians then gave the Pentagon few hints of what they have found which brought no further accusations of them bluffing...

the world is changing and it would be a disaster for the west including us here in Canada if a war breaks...look at Iran's history, THEY DO NOT LIKE INVADERS
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This war will destroy all the major players in the world today and that is the objective of it not Iran or Terror ..
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PA LEESE, I LAUGHED SO HARD I GOT A STOMACH ACHE.....STOP!!!!
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It won't be iran per se that defeats the US navy but it will be the missile technology of russia and china. They'll let iran do the dirty work as their surrogate and also let iran take the blame. Meanwhile the US will lose its place as the predominant superpower. Every great power gets defeated sooner or later, always have always will.
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THE BOY SCOUTS COULD WHOOP THEY ASS.......... CLEATUS WHACHA BEEN SIPPIN ??? . LEAVE THAT MOON SHINE LONE!!!!!
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because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

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US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
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lmao

Iran is like the school bully. It's take down will be fast and furious from all fronts..they have no idea what is coming
their way.They should stop threatening to destroy whole nations.
They will soon be humbled. I feel for the regular folks in
Iran...i know many want democracy but are afraid to speak.
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Our Navy is simply unstoppable. Our brave men and women are heroes.

We are a global force for good.
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global force for good?

LOL

you can't be serious.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2926765


Very serious.

You sound like s traitor. Your words carry zero weight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1637914


Dude....our gov goes all over the world invading dozens of countries. Killing millions of people. Bankrolling rebels in Egypt, Syria, Libya etc. And now their guns are about to be turned on us.
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the us subs will become tombs at the bottom of the ocean. USA pls stop the games as you know iran's space program is untouchable like mc hammer..

[link to www.keshefoundation.org]
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"Space Program"?!cruise

Are you fuckin shittin me?!slaphim

Iran defeating the U.S.norespect

You people better recount the Olympic medals again! That's just one aspect of how far ahead we are of everyone else!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13283851


during the MC2002 exercise.... quote: "Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected"
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Serious, boats we can't detect??????????? We can detect an ant miles away. Go back to your Xbox.
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It won't be iran per se that defeats the US navy but it will be the missile technology of russia and china. They'll let iran do the dirty work as their surrogate and also let iran take the blame. Meanwhile the US will lose its place as the predominant superpower. Every great power gets defeated sooner or later, always have always will.
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Our Navy is simply unstoppable. Our brave men and women are heroes.

We are a global force for good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1637914


you were...not anymore...there are new players in the playground

you guys would lose if you go into this war...you must think outside of the box...and read what Marine Corps Lt. General Paul K. Van Riper has to say...he's words are more legitimate than yours
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


You have posted no FACT's at all. Nothing but theories and opinions!

The good General is campaigning to Congress for more funding for his branch of service. All good commanders do that. Canadian F
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the us subs will become tombs at the bottom of the ocean. USA pls stop the games as you know iran's space program is untouchable like mc hammer..

[link to www.keshefoundation.org]
 Quoting: superfluous moon 22243444


"Space Program"?!cruise

Are you fuckin shittin me?!slaphim

Iran defeating the U.S.norespect

You people better recount the Olympic medals again! That's just one aspect of how far ahead we are of everyone else!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13283851


during the MC2002 exercise.... quote: "Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected"
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


Seriously, how old are you?

The U.S. Navy has been steam rolling ALL through the Persian Gulf, and NOBODY has done a fucking thing about it!

Because NOBODY can!stfu
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laugh you're such a Joe tard

ofcourse Iran hasn't done anything, cuz they don't want to look like the aggressor here, but if one bullet get fired at their way, it's all over for the fifth fleet..so should i be listening to you? or a former Marine Corps Lt. General? fart
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

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US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
 Quoting: moeskyhigh




lmao

Iran is like the school bully. It's take down will be fast and furious from all fronts..they have no idea what is coming
their way.They should stop threatening to destroy whole nations.
They will soon be humbled. I feel for the regular folks in
Iran...i know many want democracy but are afraid to speak.
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How right you are. They haven't a clue.
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

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US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
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first, it was 2002, lot of things have changed
second, are you sure that what they published is the truth?
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never in million years i would have thought i would get a Green Karma for a thread like this
whoever u r
thanks hf
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Let help you w/ that dickweed.
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

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US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


You are refering to MSEL injects by the gamer, and just like video games enemy forces respawn and do the impossible. Fortunately...we have more than just the 5th Fleet and a computer scenario.

The Iranian deserts do make the Iraqi deserts look like prairies...
There's plenty of room for all God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes...noli timere messorem
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Our Navy is simply unstoppable. Our brave men and women are heroes.

We are a global force for good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1637914


you were...not anymore...there are new players in the playground

you guys would lose if you go into this war...you must think outside of the box...and read what Marine Corps Lt. General Paul K. Van Riper has to say...he's words are more legitimate than yours
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


You have posted no FACT's at all. Nothing but theories and opinions!

The good General is campaigning to Congress for more funding for his branch of service. All good commanders do that. Canadian F
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13283851


no you're wrong..he's a retired marine who got to command the Red team for the wargame that cost US taxdollars $250 million...he resigned his position after what he saw that how the Pentagon tried to script the game to give a victory for the Blue team..a waste of $250 million indeed

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No one messes with AMERICA !!!

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haha. if this video by hassan abbasi is true then i would like to see the video of the sas troops urinating and shitting themselves. it feels pretty damn true.

must have been thinking they were going to be beheaded. lol.

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Hi, O.P. an interesting thread, I hope you will consider my ideas.
First up. I do not know if you have met any Iranians.
Iranian people are for the most part, very, very smart,intelligent and kind people, they in fact quite lovely,good people to know !
The whole Islamist Jihadist thing is theater, nothing more.
Perhaps one percent of the population, nut jobs financed by big banks.
The Iranian president is an actor,just like Ronald Reagan and Barry Obama
Washington D.C, looks like it is full of idiots, half-wits and imbeciles, it is not!
Joe Biden, our vice president seems to say something stupid every 9 days or so.
Joe Biden plays the clown. he also plays the union man and the socialist, he is none of the above and is most likely a VERY smart dude.
Behind all the global economy collapsy bullshit sits a large, important commodity called OIL.
OIL gets the world where it is going, it is in your car, dishwasher,Vacuum cleaner,Blender,CD player,Plastic whatever!
OIL is a good thing, a GIFT from GOD!
The price of OIL is set in a relationship between the producers OPEC/Venezuela/USA/Canada/North sea ETC;
and the stock market (generic term)/Wall Street.
Creating a theater in the Middle East provides tension and unknown factors, on which Speculators may BUY or SELL OIL futures/investments.
Rumors of war create volatility .
Iran will not attack Israel nor will Israel attack Iran, it would mean ABSOLUTE HORROR ON BOTH NATIONS.
OIL is not dead dinosaurs and rotted rain forests, their are no giant piles of dead dinosaurs under Saudi Arabia!
Google A-Biotic oil and Pro-Biotic Oil.
No dead Dinos 50 thousand feet below ground level, period.
It is theater, by smarter men than us.
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Hi, O.P. an interesting thread, I hope you will consider my ideas.
First up. I do not know if you have met any Iranians.
Iranian people are for the most part, very, very smart,intelligent and kind people, they in fact quite lovely,good people to know !
The whole Islamist Jihadist thing is theater, nothing more.
Perhaps one percent of the population, nut jobs financed by big banks.
The Iranian president is an actor,just like Ronald Reagan and Barry Obama
Washington D.C, looks like it is full of idiots, half-wits and imbeciles, it is not!
Joe Biden, our vice president seems to say something stupid every 9 days or so.
Joe Biden plays the clown. he also plays the union man and the socialist, he is none of the above and is most likely a VERY smart dude.
Behind all the global economy collapsy bullshit sits a large, important commodity called OIL.
OIL gets the world where it is going, it is in your car, dishwasher,Vacuum cleaner,Blender,CD player,Plastic whatever!
OIL is a good thing, a GIFT from GOD!
The price of OIL is set in a relationship between the producers OPEC/Venezuela/USA/Canada/North sea ETC;
and the stock market (generic term)/Wall Street.
Creating a theater in the Middle East provides tension and unknown factors, on which Speculators may BUY or SELL OIL futures/investments.
Rumors of war create volatility .
Iran will not attack Israel nor will Israel attack Iran, it would mean ABSOLUTE HORROR ON BOTH NATIONS.
OIL is not dead dinosaurs and rotted rain forests, their are no giant piles of dead dinosaurs under Saudi Arabia!
Google A-Biotic oil and Pro-Biotic Oil.
No dead Dinos 50 thousand feet below ground level, period.
It is theater, by smarter men than us.
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Hi, O.P. an interesting thread, I hope you will consider my ideas.
First up. I do not know if you have met any Iranians.
Iranian people are for the most part, very, very smart,intelligent and kind people, they in fact quite lovely,good people to know !
The whole Islamist Jihadist thing is theater, nothing more.
Perhaps one percent of the population, nut jobs financed by big banks.
The Iranian president is an actor,just like Ronald Reagan and Barry Obama
Washington D.C, looks like it is full of idiots, half-wits and imbeciles, it is not!
Joe Biden, our vice president seems to say something stupid every 9 days or so.
Joe Biden plays the clown. he also plays the union man and the socialist, he is none of the above and is most likely a VERY smart dude.
Behind all the global economy collapsy bullshit sits a large, important commodity called OIL.
OIL gets the world where it is going, it is in your car, dishwasher,Vacuum cleaner,Blender,CD player,Plastic whatever!
OIL is a good thing, a GIFT from GOD!
The price of OIL is set in a relationship between the producers OPEC/Venezuela/USA/Canada/North sea ETC;
and the stock market (generic term)/Wall Street.
Creating a theater in the Middle East provides tension and unknown factors, on which Speculators may BUY or SELL OIL futures/investments.
Rumors of war create volatility .
Iran will not attack Israel nor will Israel attack Iran, it would mean ABSOLUTE HORROR ON BOTH NATIONS.
OIL is not dead dinosaurs and rotted rain forests, their are no giant piles of dead dinosaurs under Saudi Arabia!
Google A-Biotic oil and Pro-Biotic Oil.
No dead Dinos 50 thousand feet below ground level, period.
It is theater, by smarter men than us.
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OOPS! sorry, triple post, never did that before.
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the us subs will become tombs at the bottom of the ocean. USA pls stop the games as you know iran's space program is untouchable like mc hammer..

[link to www.keshefoundation.org]
 Quoting: superfluous moon 22243444


"Space Program"?!cruise

Are you fuckin shittin me?!slaphim

Iran defeating the U.S.norespect

You people better recount the Olympic medals again! That's just one aspect of how far ahead we are of everyone else!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13283851


during the MC2002 exercise.... quote: "Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected"
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Serious, boats we can't detect??????????? We can detect an ant miles away. Go back to your Xbox.
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your ship couldn't detect the mine that was sitting in the persian gulf that got hit live on tv...you're such a moron, go back to your tent
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because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

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US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
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lmao

Iran is like the school bully. It's take down will be fast and furious from all fronts..they have no idea what is coming
their way.They should stop threatening to destroy whole nations.
They will soon be humbled. I feel for the regular folks in
Iran...i know many want democracy but are afraid to speak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3405890


rofl Iran is now the bully??!!!!!

can i have what you're smokingstoner

you have been threatening them 24/7 with 50 bases surrounding them, sanctioning them 5 rounds. and they're the bully

OMFG go back to school kid
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US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


You are refering to MSEL injects by the gamer, and just like video games enemy forces respawn and do the impossible. Fortunately...we have more than just the 5th Fleet and a computer scenario.

The Iranian deserts do make the Iraqi deserts look like prairies...
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a video game that cost $250 million ...ppfff whatever
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Our Navy is simply unstoppable. Our brave men and women are heroes.

We are a global force for good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1637914


you were...not anymore...there are new players in the playground

you guys would lose if you go into this war...you must think outside of the box...and read what Marine Corps Lt. General Paul K. Van Riper has to say...he's words are more legitimate than yours
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


You have posted no FACT's at all. Nothing but theories and opinions!

The good General is campaigning to Congress for more funding for his branch of service. All good commanders do that. Canadian F
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13283851


no you're wrong..he's a retired marine who got to command the Red team for the wargame that cost US taxdollars $250 million...he resigned his position after what he saw that how the Pentagon tried to script the game to give a victory for the Blue team..a waste of $250 million indeed
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


cruiseok, ok ...ok.

I've played lots of video games. I've killed dragons and kicked ass in COD: Black Op's.
Does that mean I could really do that in real life!!?

Damn! Me and Iran must be some bad ass motherfuckers!fighter1

Furthermore, your logic is flawed because an AMERICAN General ran the simulation....not an Iranian! You dumbass!wakeup
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you cant compare the resources available on land to the resources available on ship.

Land forces have an entire country to place assets on and take them from.
A navy has what's on ship.

Big difference, the only leveler is nukes.


when the ran gets nukes everything will change, and the navel taskforce is there for one thing and one only, nuclear weapon delivery or deterrance
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i am fast becoming a fan of dr abbasi. this guy speaks truth.

zero bullshit.

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Our Navy is simply unstoppable. Our brave men and women are heroes.

We are a global force for good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1637914


global force for good?

LOL

you can't be serious.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2926765


Very serious.

You sound like s traitor. Your words carry zero weight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1637914


The US has no business in that part of the world. It is not our concern. Bring the troops home. Only a TRAITOR would want to demolish America with endless financially unbearable wars. Iran is no threat to the US.
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We have Iran surrounded and Obama fired first with his economic sanctions. We have ruined their currency and economy. They have every right to fight back.....

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