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I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet

 
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because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

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US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


have you heard of HAARP, usa weapon of mass destruction?

do you realize that Iran is situation on a MAJOR FAULT line?

Iran isn't going to make a move....smartest thing they can do is lay-low and pray!
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during the MC2002 exercise.... quote: "Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected"
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


Seriously, how old are you?

The U.S. Navy has been steam rolling ALL through the Persian Gulf, and NOBODY has done a fucking thing about it!

Because NOBODY can!stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13283851



Steamrolling at the cost of billions per day. How do you fight a bigger stronger boxer? Let him punch his self out. Bob, weave, slip, and dance, dance, dance. Then BAM!
 Quoting: AmericanJedi


clappa
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21947965

it worked in Iraq and Afghanistan.
so far US 0 others 2
and this unlearned lesson has cost 2 billion what was it day a week? oh hell with those numbers does it even matter!

the US is a good show early on, winning the opening battles....to then lose the war.
what was the last war the US actually won?
Vietnam?
Korea?
Afghanistan?
Iraq?
any takers?

Last Edited by psyoptics on 08/19/2012 06:48 PM
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No more fookin wars.
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you cunts are sitting down your fat asses watching Merica Fuck yeah

while there are innocent soldiers on a sitting duck facing enemies

you wanna know what war would do to you
[link to www.youtube.com]

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 Quoting: moeskyhigh


Have you been in combat?
 Quoting: CrazyBud


no...why should I..?
I'm not the one here who's a chicken Hawk!!
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[...snip...]

The goal here is eternal warfare. So, the question is... Do you feel lucky?

MCB
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this is why they will never attack anyone unless they get attacked...this is their game

[...snip...]

...these are Persians we're talking about...since their history they have defeated more than 80% of their invaders..what makes you think they can't do it now?
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


I guess you didn't read my last line. Eternal war is the goal. The idea of a quick war isn't even a consideration... it has to last forever. Pay attention. It certainly doesn't matter that there will be casualties. The PTB won't be the ones dying. On either side.

So, whether they goad you into attacking first as a pretense, or whether they starve and strangle you through sanctions... Make no mistake. They are coming for you. Your struggle entertains and feeds them. You are a tool of your own destruction.

You are owned. You are property.

We all are.

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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


have you heard of HAARP, usa weapon of mass destruction?

do you realize that Iran is situation on a MAJOR FAULT line?

Iran isn't going to make a move....smartest thing they can do is lay-low and pray!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21971133


as a matter of fact yes..i did...and it's soooo fake
and if it was real...what are they going to do? cause an earthquake on Iran even though they don't know where exactly is going to hit ?

koo koo
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Yawn....


Op is a bitter leafs fan that O.D'd on sherwin williams latex white.

Fail is strong with this one.. Lolz
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
[...snip...]

The goal here is eternal warfare. So, the question is... Do you feel lucky?

MCB
 Quoting: MCB


this is why they will never attack anyone unless they get attacked...this is their game

[...snip...]

...these are Persians we're talking about...since their history they have defeated more than 80% of their invaders..what makes you think they can't do it now?
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


I guess you didn't read my last line. Eternal war is the goal. The idea of a quick war isn't even a consideration... it has to last forever. Pay attention. It certainly doesn't matter that there will be casualties. The PTB won't be the ones dying. On either side.

So, whether they goad you into attacking first as a pretense, or whether they starve and strangle you through sanctions... Make no mistake. They are coming for you. Your struggle entertains and feeds them. You are a tool of your own destruction.

You are owned. You are property.

We all are.

MCB
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i agree
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Yawn....


Op is a bitter leafs fan that O.D'd on sherwin williams latex white.

Fail is strong with this one.. Lolz
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2458761


lmao
i show you a link of a wargame n the way it turned out to be (which is not a computer simulations like XBox) and this is your legitimate counter argument?

GTFO
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"Space Program"?!cruise

Are you fuckin shittin me?!slaphim

Iran defeating the U.S.norespect

You people better recount the Olympic medals again! That's just one aspect of how far ahead we are of everyone else!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13283851


during the MC2002 exercise.... quote: "Red used a fleet of small boats to determine the position of Blue's fleet by the second day of the exercise. In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected"
 Quoting: moeskyhigh

Serious, boats we can't detect??????????? We can detect an ant miles away. Go back to your Xbox.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


your ship couldn't detect the mine that was sitting in the persian gulf that got hit live on tv...you're such a moron, go back to your tent
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


They also couldnt detect this..

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced


Uninvited guest: A Chinese Song Class submarine, like the one that sufaced by the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk

American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board


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you cunts are sitting down your fat asses watching Merica Fuck yeah

while there are innocent soldiers on a sitting duck facing enemies

you wanna know what war would do to you
[link to www.youtube.com]

animals
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


Have you been in combat?
 Quoting: CrazyBud


no...why should I..?
I'm not the one here who's a chicken Hawk!!
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


simple yes or no question buddy...about your comment regarding what war would do to you

Do you have any type of military background? Yes or no?
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
Whatever u say Liberace..

Keep digging the wiki for your facts you mensa canditate..
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

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US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


lol



Hard to fight when you're deaf,dumb & blind

Stuxnet/flame has the capability for multiple war heads, Banking, phones,C2,Army,Air force, electric etc there in lies the potential to erase a cultures data base. Restricting every thing to snail mail,


The US's military is faced with the problem
of how far back do they set Iran culture,
1900, 1800, or 1700's.
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

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US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


lol



Hard to fight when you're deaf,dumb & blind

Stuxnet/flame has the capability for multiple war heads, Banking, phones,C2,Army,Air force, electric etc there in lies the potential to erase a cultures data base. Restricting every thing to snail mail,


The US's military is faced with the problem
of how far back do they set Iran culture,
1900, 1800, or 1700's.
 Quoting: mathetes


Yes...you are Top Dog!

top dog
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Iran has proved that they can take down America with Assymetric warfare

remember the corvette navy ships the Israelis lost in the 2006 war??

since WW2, there wasn't any war that caused any amphibious ships to get sunk. not in Korea war, Vietnam, Gulf war, Any Arab - Israeli war until 2006
and a 2000 army group not only sunk 1 but 2 of the amphibious ships that Israel had which was given to by the US Navy...

It's all about strategy my friend.

it was with the use of good strategy that Cyrus with a relatively weak army defeated the mighty empire of Babylon, and it was strategy that a small army from macedonia lead by Alexander defeated the Persian Empire

and that strategy is something US has not been prepared for. It's something new, n the persians have mastered at it
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


Well if they could beat the USA they would surely kick the fuck out of them Canuck pussies.
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

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US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


lol



Hard to fight when you're deaf,dumb & blind

Stuxnet/flame has the capability for multiple war heads, Banking, phones,C2,Army,Air force, electric etc there in lies the potential to erase a cultures data base. Restricting every thing to snail mail,


The US's military is faced with the problem
of how far back do they set Iran culture,
1900, 1800, or 1700's.
 Quoting: mathetes


Yes...you are Top Dog!

top dog
 Quoting: CrazyBud

lol great pic...
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
If you really believe that, OP, you have NO IDEA of the power and expertise and weapons systems that are at the command of the US Navy. Iran would be nuked back to the stone age were they to find the balls to attack the 5th Fleet. Their major cities and seat of government would be turned to mostly rubble within a matter of a few hours or less.

Should Iran be stupid enough to launch an attack on Israel, they will be facing the Israeli Defense Force AND the US Military. And what's left of Iran may wind up being an Israeli territory and "protectorate" !! That should make all the Muzzies there happy! If any of them survive.

Of course all of Iran's oil income would be seized to pay for the damages and the costs of their own destruction. That revenue stream over ten or twenty years should be quite substantial.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20006444


LOL Where do you live? Iran isn't weak. Of course america has better weapons but should america lose their fleet when they start to attack Iran, then it was self defense and NO WAY the USA can and will nuke Iran if a war is conventional. That would trigger world war 3 in a second and the USA will be no more.

You really think Israel cant be defeated? It is a tiny country and it will be defeated if they continue to threaten other countries. Israel will never be able to do anything against Iran, only america can do that.
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
you ppl really think i give a damn about red karmas? this is something you don't hear on your t.v or school..this is what Internet is good for

the reality is Iran is too strong to be invaded and they will make u know that for sure as soon as you attack them...
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


no...the desert is too harsh for conventional ground ops...so an occupation campaign is the least probable COA...the strategy is to break Iran's toys and the toy factories.
 Quoting: CrazyBud

We are really really good at breaking things too.
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Yawn....


Op is a bitter leafs fan that O.D'd on sherwin williams latex white.

Fail is strong with this one.. Lolz
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2458761


lmao
i show you a link of a wargame n the way it turned out to be (which is not a computer simulations like XBox) and this is your legitimate counter argument?

GTFO
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


as I said earlier...
You are refering to MSEL injects by the gamer, and just like video games enemy forces respawn and do the impossible. Fortunately...we have more than just the 5th Fleet and a computer scenario. As a white cell player, I would inject 200000 slime loaded cruise missle launched at the same time from multiple sites...the outcomes were always disasterous, but not reality. Just like Xbox.
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
Moving my glass factory to Iran after the short conflict.

Last Edited by Desert Fox on 08/19/2012 07:20 PM
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Moving my glass factory to Iran after the short conflict.
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don't worry they stop you there and make your tippy into a really nice china
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OP - you crazy homo man! america navy no lose! iran man going down hard! iran doomed! all persians hide in fear! qick fight with iran man getting beat bad! youuu crazy?!
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

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US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


A tactical victory doesn't mean strategic defeat. Still I doubt if the U.S. military learned anything from Millennium Challenge. Huge lumbering bureaucratic militaries being what they are.
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as I said earlier...
You are refering to MSEL injects by the gamer, and just like video games enemy forces respawn and do the impossible. Fortunately...we have more than just the 5th Fleet and a computer scenario. As a white cell player, I would inject 200000 slime loaded cruise missle launched at the same time from multiple sites...the outcomes were always disasterous, but not reality. Just like Xbox.

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Millennium Challenge 2002 was conducted to simulate a war with Iran, which was codenamed “Red” and referred to an unknown Middle Eastern rogue enemy state in the Persian Gulf. Other than Iran, no other country could meet the perimeters and characteristics of “Red” and its military forces, from the patrol boats to the motorcycle units. The war simulation took place because Washington was planning on attacking Iran soon after invading Iraq in 2003.

The scenario in the 2002 war game started with the U.S., codenamed “Blue,” giving Iran a one-day ultimatum to surrender in the year 2007. The war game’s date of 2007 would chronologically correspond to U.S. plans to attack Iran after the Israeli attack on Lebanon in 2006, which was to extend, according to military plans, into a broader war against Syria. The war against Lebanon, however, did not go as planned and the U.S. and Israel realized that if Hezbollah could challenge them in Lebanon then an expanded war with Syria and Iran would be a disaster.

In Millennium Challenge 2002’s war scenario, Iran would react to U.S. aggression by launching a massive barrage of missiles that would overwhelm the U.S. and destroy sixteen U.S. naval vessels – an aircraft carrier, ten cruisers, and five amphibious ships. It is estimated that if this had happened in real war theatre context, more than 20,000 U.S. servicemen would have been killed in the first day following the attack.

Next, Iran would send its small patrol boats – the ones that look insignificant in comparison to the U.S.S. John C. Stennis and other large U.S. warships – to overwhelm the remainder of the Pentagon’s naval forces in the Persian Gulf, which would result in the damaging and sinking of most of the U.S. Fifth Fleet and the defeat of the United States. After the U.S. defeat, the war games were started over again, but “Red”(Iran) had to operate under the assumption of handicaps and shortcomings, so that U.S. forces would be allowed to emerge victorious from the drill. This outcome of the war games obviated the fact that the U.S. would have been overwhelmed in the context of a real conventional war with Iran in the Persian Gulf.

Last Edited by moeskyhigh on 08/19/2012 07:38 PM
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OP - you crazy homo man! america navy no lose! iran man going down hard! iran doomed! all persians hide in fear! qick fight with iran man getting beat bad! youuu crazy?!
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hurr why u no espeak engrish correcterry ?!
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because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


A tactical victory doesn't mean strategic defeat. Still I doubt if the U.S. military learned anything from Millennium Challenge. Huge lumbering bureaucratic militaries being what they are.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


me n u both know that even if US gets beaten badly they will never surrender and will have international backing from EU n Australia , n obviously Canada

If Iran beats the US as a self defense they will gain huge influence around the world,,especially in the middle east...the war wouldn't stop until one is down completely

Iran is not going to hit America on its land, but its bases, and yet America would be the one attacking their land. if a wmd goes off in Iran, i am sure there are sleeper cells already here in Canada and America , and we could all die from it.

sometimes we gotta let the bully know that they should come down from their high horses and start having a new approach to this world. instead of talking to someone as if you own them, talk to them as freinds..but tht will never happen for obvious reasons
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
as I said earlier...
You are refering to MSEL injects by the gamer, and just like video games enemy forces respawn and do the impossible. Fortunately...we have more than just the 5th Fleet and a computer scenario. As a white cell player, I would inject 200000 slime loaded cruise missle launched at the same time from multiple sites...the outcomes were always disasterous, but not reality. Just like Xbox.
 Quoting: moeskyhigh

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i will say it again:


Millennium Challenge 2002 was conducted to simulate a war with Iran, which was codenamed “Red” and referred to an unknown Middle Eastern rogue enemy state in the Persian Gulf. Other than Iran, no other country could meet the perimeters and characteristics of “Red” and its military forces, from the patrol boats to the motorcycle units. The war simulation took place because Washington was planning on attacking Iran soon after invading Iraq in 2003.

The scenario in the 2002 war game started with the U.S., codenamed “Blue,” giving Iran a one-day ultimatum to surrender in the year 2007. The war game’s date of 2007 would chronologically correspond to U.S. plans to attack Iran after the Israeli attack on Lebanon in 2006, which was to extend, according to military plans, into a broader war against Syria. The war against Lebanon, however, did not go as planned and the U.S. and Israel realized that if Hezbollah could challenge them in Lebanon then an expanded war with Syria and Iran would be a disaster.

In Millennium Challenge 2002’s war scenario, Iran would react to U.S. aggression by launching a massive barrage of missiles that would overwhelm the U.S. and destroy sixteen U.S. naval vessels – an aircraft carrier, ten cruisers, and five amphibious ships. It is estimated that if this had happened in real war theatre context, more than 20,000 U.S. servicemen would have been killed in the first day following the attack.

Next, Iran would send its small patrol boats – the ones that look insignificant in comparison to the U.S.S. John C. Stennis and other large U.S. warships – to overwhelm the remainder of the Pentagon’s naval forces in the Persian Gulf, which would result in the damaging and sinking of most of the U.S. Fifth Fleet and the defeat of the United States. After the U.S. defeat, the war games were started over again, but “Red”(Iran) had to operate under the assumption of handicaps and shortcomings, so that U.S. forces would be allowed to emerge victorious from the drill. This outcome of the war games obviated the fact that the U.S. would have been overwhelmed in the context of a real conventional war with Iran in the Persian Gulf.


Whatever dude...blue force vs red force and white cell is the ref...a gamed navy battle defeat does not equal the defeat of US...all I can say
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
because Millenium Challenge 2002 says so

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US for the very first time will be defeated by the Persian army and it would be an embarrassment for the Americans
 Quoting: moeskyhigh


lol



Hard to fight when you're deaf,dumb & blind

Stuxnet/flame has the capability for multiple war heads, Banking, phones,C2,Army,Air force, electric etc there in lies the potential to erase a cultures data base. Restricting every thing to snail mail,


The US's military is faced with the problem
of how far back do they set Iran culture,
1900, 1800, or 1700's.
 Quoting: mathetes


Iranians have faced military how far back? 2500 years? oh wait that wouldn't count? lmao

they have their strategies dude...the persians were the one who invented the chess game..if they brought down Babylon , then they can do it to the new one in this century...history repeats itself
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
as I said earlier...
You are refering to MSEL injects by the gamer, and just like video games enemy forces respawn and do the impossible. Fortunately...we have more than just the 5th Fleet and a computer scenario. As a white cell player, I would inject 200000 slime loaded cruise missle launched at the same time from multiple sites...the outcomes were always disasterous, but not reality. Just like Xbox.
 Quoting: moeskyhigh

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i will say it again:


Millennium Challenge 2002 was conducted to simulate a war with Iran, which was codenamed “Red” and referred to an unknown Middle Eastern rogue enemy state in the Persian Gulf. Other than Iran, no other country could meet the perimeters and characteristics of “Red” and its military forces, from the patrol boats to the motorcycle units. The war simulation took place because Washington was planning on attacking Iran soon after invading Iraq in 2003.

The scenario in the 2002 war game started with the U.S., codenamed “Blue,” giving Iran a one-day ultimatum to surrender in the year 2007. The war game’s date of 2007 would chronologically correspond to U.S. plans to attack Iran after the Israeli attack on Lebanon in 2006, which was to extend, according to military plans, into a broader war against Syria. The war against Lebanon, however, did not go as planned and the U.S. and Israel realized that if Hezbollah could challenge them in Lebanon then an expanded war with Syria and Iran would be a disaster.

In Millennium Challenge 2002’s war scenario, Iran would react to U.S. aggression by launching a massive barrage of missiles that would overwhelm the U.S. and destroy sixteen U.S. naval vessels – an aircraft carrier, ten cruisers, and five amphibious ships. It is estimated that if this had happened in real war theatre context, more than 20,000 U.S. servicemen would have been killed in the first day following the attack.

Next, Iran would send its small patrol boats – the ones that look insignificant in comparison to the U.S.S. John C. Stennis and other large U.S. warships – to overwhelm the remainder of the Pentagon’s naval forces in the Persian Gulf, which would result in the damaging and sinking of most of the U.S. Fifth Fleet and the defeat of the United States. After the U.S. defeat, the war games were started over again, but “Red”(Iran) had to operate under the assumption of handicaps and shortcomings, so that U.S. forces would be allowed to emerge victorious from the drill. This outcome of the war games obviated the fact that the U.S. would have been overwhelmed in the context of a real conventional war with Iran in the Persian Gulf.
 Quoting: CrazyBud


Whatever dude...blue force vs red force and white cell is the ref...a gamed navy battle defeat does not equal the defeat of US...all I can say


oh now i get what you're saying...you're telling me that this is obviously fictional .. DUH!!
but it's just an idea of what the war would be like..taddaaa!!
and odds are very against the Americans in this upcoming war
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Re: I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet
OP, you raise some interesting points, but do you really think nobody in the US Navy hasn't thought about this in the last 10 years either? The armed forces aren't as bureaucratic as the rest of the government, and the US navy can, even in the worst case senerio, absorb a LOT of losses before needing to surrender. And even if the fifth fleet was by some stroke of luck destroyed by Iran, it's a small part of the overall Navy, and there are more ships they can bring to bare.

All the posters armchair general-ing in this topic really need to grow up. War can be crazy, and chaos filled. But the fact is the OP can have his opinion on who would win in this theoretical conflict, and you can to, it won't change what happens if it comes to pass.

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