I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet

so you think that Iranians are dumb, well, that is your first problem,,they trained 2000 hezb and obliterated the IDF...and $250 million for a war game is no joke dumbass

now and

So you think we landed on the moon then?Right.

no...the desert is too harsh for conventional ground ops...so an occupation campaign is the least probable COA...the strategy is to break Iran's toys and the toy factories.

@ OP...

This thread completely fails to acknowledge that the usa has spent trillions upon trillions of dollars on military technological research...

what everyone here on the internet banks on is nuclear technology as (being our primary defense) against Iran or global threats more over; however...

the last great discovery in military complexity was 20 years ago... (the stealth). We have multiple sources admitting that aircraft technology has advanced in the military spectrum; (craft like the aurora and even new drone technology). But we are simply clueless to what type of existing technology has and will emerge in the event of a full scale war in the middle east.

Furthermore our us government harbors technology, simple public released devices (such as the droid) were released to the millitary and used in active service for nearly 10 years prior to thier "public release". Meaning that even existing militar "communication devices" are far more advanced that anything apple offers the greater population. Now lets go back to nuclear talk. "as being our quote aresanal" The united states has multiple infection and disease research facilities that play with the most leathal and toxic substances (not even released to mankind). What is to osay we need a nuclear bomb in this day and age, when just one simple vile of god knows what is introduced into an enemy territory. Being we are the creators of these great pandemical secrets, we should consider that we have multiple failsafes to keep these types of weapons from affecting any usa citizen in our own nation.

So I completely dis agree with your logic on what iran is capable of. If they had the means to do anything they threat, they would do it now. (why wait)....

Thats right, the bottom line is they have nothing to compare to american technology... even if they sent multiple nuclear tipped missiles to every state in our nation, our world leaders and military would respond within seconds from secure locations, sending an antorage of the worst things imaginable to the middle east, leveling the entire vicinity of mankind in the region. This being said, we have neutron bomb capabilities as well, which would kill everyperson within its targeted range (without falling a single building)... Imagine that... 3000 neutron bombs completely wiping out the entire population of iran without knocking out a single building...

Whats worse is our spy technology, which we use against our own citizens; That we obviously use against ourenemies as well as our allies on a daily basis. My guess would be not a single general of any army's actions go unnoticed from the united states intelligence communities. With the drop of a pen we could kill any target (including thousands of targets at once) in a timeframe of 1 to 13 minutes...

The truth is we leave iran to boast because they are somewhat attempting to grow as a nation. But the reality is they will never overcome the united states military, because they are arrogant and uninformed as to exactly how prepared we are to deal with the slightest of threats from their nation.

Should they ever act on a threat I am certain the united states would counter with an irrevocable consequence which would effect the entire nation of iran. That being said until Your prescious iran makes a single attempt at backing its threats up. They are doind what iran does... Trying to bully their way to the top. Because lets face it, they have been and always will be on the bottom until their way of life is considered "productive"...

That being said iran will destroy its self far before the usa would ever destroy its self. and in all honesty the usa destroying itsself is quite possibly the only way it will ever be destroyed. because our nation has far to many naughty toys to offer the planet, and iran has nothing to compare to these weapons...

Could they send a sneeky attack and wipe out a city or two.. Yep...

Would we without question send them a counter attack... yep.

think pearl harbor + 40 years of advanced military tech.

This thread says fail all over it!

Lmao the only thing the wiki article shows is only America can beat America!

yep...used to be a white cell guy

just for the record as far as the christian/catholic bible stated in revelation when the war with israel/iran starts then WW3 will be shortly starting thereafter. Not a prediction but written in the bible.

Amen, brother.

Sure.....Iran's Tonka Toy Navy, I'm sure their victory strategy was worked out in their leaders bathtub. Listen, I'll give you a hint. No military equipment producing nation sells their best or latest products to third world nations. We only sell them what we no longer need and so does every other nation like Russia because we have already developed something that makes the products they purchase obsolete. You can be sure of that.
The one country that we sell better products to is Israel, but we still don't give them our new packages. If they try to take on an element like our 5th fleet, they will go down in flames and they are not fools, they know it already.

All it takes is a single tactical nuke, used in an airburst say 1500 feet above a fleet and all the toys and tools cook like everything else.

You assume that Russian or Chinese hard-line dissenters wouldn't put TN's in their hands just to fuck with us.

first of all..do you know that Iran has been laundering trillions of $$ that could've been spent on the military? do you really believe Iran's spending is that low...okay now let's assume Iran's budgets are that low in military defense .. but have you heard of Assymetric Warfare?? that means very cheap but with huge payload

and the last thing i remember is that the Iranians caught your 'Stealth Aircraft Drone" and brought it down systematically while your government lied to you and said that it was shattered into million pieces.. so am i going to now believe Iran can't defend itself from your stealth drones??

Last Edited by moeskyhigh on 08/19/2012 04:43 PM

Iran doesn't need 400 million dollar ships..all they need is a couple of sunburn missiles to sink those ships

Doubt it, the US Navy is more powerful then you can possibly imagine.

yea and the Iranians are not Iraqies or Afghanis either

it is powerful alright but it sure does have its weaknesses ... n Hezbollah shown you guys in 2006 and still are not impressed

The easiest way to get a spy drone into top secret iranian facilities......let them land it and take it in......duh!

i forsee another lusitania incident, just to spur world war. False flag is all the elite want before its goes forward. And many will believe it was to someone else's fault before understanding the true facts.

This is the point, I believe

Defeat? No. They'll kill a lot o American's if it comes to be that's for sure though.

Invaders tend to lose wars.

Hahahaha, Keep dropping the RED KARMA on this terrorist luvin butt munch, it's obviously pissing him off Someone report him to DHS, they will REACH for him, fucking terrorist supporter, FUCK YOU.

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Here's a war game scenario that might make some here take pause. Let me preface this by saying I love this country, USA! I also believe in our alliance with Israel.

That said, play this out.

First, the US Navy is lured into the strait. The Iranians torch a couple of dozen tankers and set them adrift essentially creating havoc for radar and GPS.

Meanwhile, the Syrians, Hezbollah, and the US Ally, the Egyptian muslim brotherhood see an opportunity to attack Israel.

Surround on all sides and fighting for her life, Israel doesn't help the USA. Seizing the moment, Iran uses chemical weapons on Israel and they use whatever they've got to hit the US fleets.

Maybe China gave them 10 one kiloton tactical nukes and they dump them on the US Fleets in the Persian Gulf. And they save a couple to dump on US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

So, the USA isn't beaten. We're bruised and a couple of cracked ribs, but our only real ally in the gulf is dead. And the Chinese and Russians, now know, if the Iranians can dot our eye, then we can definitely knock out the giant.

Do they attack us? Probably not. Is the above scenario likely? I don't know, but it's a tad more thoughtful than "TEAM A-MAR-IKA! FUCK YEAH" and reciting "global force for good slogans."

Reality, will probably be somewhere in between.

Oh and don't forget Hamas!

Last Edited by Mad Scientist (aka AmJedi) on 08/19/2012 04:55 PM

see your point...Iran VS the 5th Fleet. But...Iran will still get badly hurt and the rest of CENTCOM will wipe Iran off the map.

They began crucifying Christians in Egypt. Muslims would like nothing more than to get rid of Christianity all together.

It's only the beginning of a major shitstorm.

it amazes me how much of the thundering sheep herd and NFWC, (NaiveFlagWavingCrowd) is on this site.

the Russians are at least 10-15 years ahead of the West in missile technology, so Iran is as well.

anybody ever heard of a Sunburn missile? the u.s. Aegis anti-missile system cannot crack this. Sunburns are on land, air, and subs in Iran.

but the biggest problem is that Obama, like Hitler, is a traitor; Hitler was sent in to destroy the German people, and O is doing the same thing to America.

how can all of you NFWC's be unaware that Obama wants the Russians to have our top secret missile codes......which is outraging the entire national defense system?


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You dont think the US has made adjustments in 10 years?