I'm most definitely sure Iran will beat the US Navy fifth fleet

as a matter of fact yes..i did...and it's soooo fake
and if it was real...what are they going to do? cause an earthquake on Iran even though they don't know where exactly is going to hit ?

koo koo

Yawn....


Op is a bitter leafs fan that O.D'd on sherwin williams latex white.

Fail is strong with this one.. Lolz

i agree

i show you a link of a wargame n the way it turned out to be (which is not a computer simulations like XBox) and this is your legitimate counter argument?

GTFO

They also couldnt detect this..

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced


Uninvited guest: A Chinese Song Class submarine, like the one that sufaced by the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk

American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board


[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

simple yes or no question buddy...about your comment regarding what war would do to you

Do you have any type of military background? Yes or no?

Whatever u say Liberace..

Keep digging the wiki for your facts you mensa canditate..

lol



Hard to fight when you're deaf,dumb & blind

Stuxnet/flame has the capability for multiple war heads, Banking, phones,C2,Army,Air force, electric etc there in lies the potential to erase a cultures data base. Restricting every thing to snail mail,


The US's military is faced with the problem
of how far back do they set Iran culture,
1900, 1800, or 1700's.

Yes...you are Top Dog!

Well if they could beat the USA they would surely kick the fuck out of them Canuck pussies.

lol great pic...

We are really really good at breaking things too.

as I said earlier...
You are refering to MSEL injects by the gamer, and just like video games enemy forces respawn and do the impossible. Fortunately...we have more than just the 5th Fleet and a computer scenario. As a white cell player, I would inject 200000 slime loaded cruise missle launched at the same time from multiple sites...the outcomes were always disasterous, but not reality. Just like Xbox.

Moving my glass factory to Iran after the short conflict.

Last Edited by Desert Fox on 08/19/2012 07:20 PM

don't worry they stop you there and make your tippy into a really nice china

OP - you crazy homo man! america navy no lose! iran man going down hard! iran doomed! all persians hide in fear! qick fight with iran man getting beat bad! youuu crazy?!

A tactical victory doesn't mean strategic defeat. Still I doubt if the U.S. military learned anything from Millennium Challenge. Huge lumbering bureaucratic militaries being what they are.

as I said earlier...
You are refering to MSEL injects by the gamer, and just like video games enemy forces respawn and do the impossible. Fortunately...we have more than just the 5th Fleet and a computer scenario. As a white cell player, I would inject 200000 slime loaded cruise missle launched at the same time from multiple sites...the outcomes were always disasterous, but not reality. Just like Xbox.

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i will say it again:


Millennium Challenge 2002 was conducted to simulate a war with Iran, which was codenamed “Red” and referred to an unknown Middle Eastern rogue enemy state in the Persian Gulf. Other than Iran, no other country could meet the perimeters and characteristics of “Red” and its military forces, from the patrol boats to the motorcycle units. The war simulation took place because Washington was planning on attacking Iran soon after invading Iraq in 2003.

The scenario in the 2002 war game started with the U.S., codenamed “Blue,” giving Iran a one-day ultimatum to surrender in the year 2007. The war game’s date of 2007 would chronologically correspond to U.S. plans to attack Iran after the Israeli attack on Lebanon in 2006, which was to extend, according to military plans, into a broader war against Syria. The war against Lebanon, however, did not go as planned and the U.S. and Israel realized that if Hezbollah could challenge them in Lebanon then an expanded war with Syria and Iran would be a disaster.

In Millennium Challenge 2002’s war scenario, Iran would react to U.S. aggression by launching a massive barrage of missiles that would overwhelm the U.S. and destroy sixteen U.S. naval vessels – an aircraft carrier, ten cruisers, and five amphibious ships. It is estimated that if this had happened in real war theatre context, more than 20,000 U.S. servicemen would have been killed in the first day following the attack.

Next, Iran would send its small patrol boats – the ones that look insignificant in comparison to the U.S.S. John C. Stennis and other large U.S. warships – to overwhelm the remainder of the Pentagon’s naval forces in the Persian Gulf, which would result in the damaging and sinking of most of the U.S. Fifth Fleet and the defeat of the United States. After the U.S. defeat, the war games were started over again, but “Red”(Iran) had to operate under the assumption of handicaps and shortcomings, so that U.S. forces would be allowed to emerge victorious from the drill. This outcome of the war games obviated the fact that the U.S. would have been overwhelmed in the context of a real conventional war with Iran in the Persian Gulf.

Last Edited by moeskyhigh on 08/19/2012 07:38 PM

hurr why u no espeak engrish correcterry ?!

me n u both know that even if US gets beaten badly they will never surrender and will have international backing from EU n Australia , n obviously Canada

If Iran beats the US as a self defense they will gain huge influence around the world,,especially in the middle east...the war wouldn't stop until one is down completely

Iran is not going to hit America on its land, but its bases, and yet America would be the one attacking their land. if a wmd goes off in Iran, i am sure there are sleeper cells already here in Canada and America , and we could all die from it.

sometimes we gotta let the bully know that they should come down from their high horses and start having a new approach to this world. instead of talking to someone as if you own them, talk to them as freinds..but tht will never happen for obvious reasons

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i will say it again:


Millennium Challenge 2002 was conducted to simulate a war with Iran, which was codenamed “Red” and referred to an unknown Middle Eastern rogue enemy state in the Persian Gulf. Other than Iran, no other country could meet the perimeters and characteristics of “Red” and its military forces, from the patrol boats to the motorcycle units. The war simulation took place because Washington was planning on attacking Iran soon after invading Iraq in 2003.

The scenario in the 2002 war game started with the U.S., codenamed “Blue,” giving Iran a one-day ultimatum to surrender in the year 2007. The war game’s date of 2007 would chronologically correspond to U.S. plans to attack Iran after the Israeli attack on Lebanon in 2006, which was to extend, according to military plans, into a broader war against Syria. The war against Lebanon, however, did not go as planned and the U.S. and Israel realized that if Hezbollah could challenge them in Lebanon then an expanded war with Syria and Iran would be a disaster.

In Millennium Challenge 2002’s war scenario, Iran would react to U.S. aggression by launching a massive barrage of missiles that would overwhelm the U.S. and destroy sixteen U.S. naval vessels – an aircraft carrier, ten cruisers, and five amphibious ships. It is estimated that if this had happened in real war theatre context, more than 20,000 U.S. servicemen would have been killed in the first day following the attack.

Next, Iran would send its small patrol boats – the ones that look insignificant in comparison to the U.S.S. John C. Stennis and other large U.S. warships – to overwhelm the remainder of the Pentagon’s naval forces in the Persian Gulf, which would result in the damaging and sinking of most of the U.S. Fifth Fleet and the defeat of the United States. After the U.S. defeat, the war games were started over again, but “Red”(Iran) had to operate under the assumption of handicaps and shortcomings, so that U.S. forces would be allowed to emerge victorious from the drill. This outcome of the war games obviated the fact that the U.S. would have been overwhelmed in the context of a real conventional war with Iran in the Persian Gulf.


Whatever dude...blue force vs red force and white cell is the ref...a gamed navy battle defeat does not equal the defeat of US...all I can say

Iranians have faced military how far back? 2500 years? oh wait that wouldn't count? lmao

they have their strategies dude...the persians were the one who invented the chess game..if they brought down Babylon , then they can do it to the new one in this century...history repeats itself

Whatever dude...blue force vs red force and white cell is the ref...a gamed navy battle defeat does not equal the defeat of US...all I can say


oh now i get what you're saying...you're telling me that this is obviously fictional .. DUH!!
but it's just an idea of what the war would be like..taddaaa!!
and odds are very against the Americans in this upcoming war

OP, you raise some interesting points, but do you really think nobody in the US Navy hasn't thought about this in the last 10 years either? The armed forces aren't as bureaucratic as the rest of the government, and the US navy can, even in the worst case senerio, absorb a LOT of losses before needing to surrender. And even if the fifth fleet was by some stroke of luck destroyed by Iran, it's a small part of the overall Navy, and there are more ships they can bring to bare.

All the posters armchair general-ing in this topic really need to grow up. War can be crazy, and chaos filled. But the fact is the OP can have his opinion on who would win in this theoretical conflict, and you can to, it won't change what happens if it comes to pass.

In what part of history has the American military ever won?

Won't happen until Door Bert says so.

gracias i vaya con dios, hermano

read this article

[link to www.strategic-culture.org]

so if america attacks iran today, then be sure db will give the news on how iran destroyed the 5th fleet n other bases