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What if Creation and Evolution coexist. What if there are two groups of people on the earth.

 
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What if Creation and Evolution coexist. What if there are two groups of people on the earth.
Those who were created by God and those who from the orginal animal creation and have evolved from apes.

What if the Serpant was from the ape line and tricked eve into having sex with him.

What if they are the ones the flood was to destroy.

What if some survived and are here today.

Would explain alot.
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Changing circumstances allow for evolution, therefore evolution is the consequence of the creation of circumstances.

Some people use the device of a 'god' to explain the circumstances, others logic and science. Take your pick. Either way, what is there is independent of the explanation.
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Evolution is evolution no matter how it comes about, however that wasn't the point.

What if there were two creations, one creating the world and the animal kingdom, including animal man, and the other, at a later time, a creation of the sons of God in the Garden. And, later still, the fall of man which evovled the streams of mankind today into two forms of man.

There are children of God and there are children of apes here today.

Which are you?
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Talk silly.
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division of thought is the most basic form of control of knowledge.

Once logic and creativity makes one instead of being 2 different thoughts pattern, then you begin to see the whole picture.


creativity allows one to create freely.

Evolution allows that creation to perfectionise itself. Self updating.

also Evolution can be deceiphered as such.

EVOL ution.

u = you phonetically speaking.

Tion = deffining an action, a mouvment, a constant CHANGE.

Evol = Love backward.

evol ution = Changing, moving, towards, unto, Love!

Evol u tion = changing you unto love.

Last Edited by Blitz the storm-striker on 08/20/2012 10:18 AM
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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There's only one God, and he doesn't make mistakes, which evolution suggests. Evolution is an insult to God. None of us are glorifed apes, though many behave like them.
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There's only one God, and he doesn't make mistakes, which evolution suggests. Evolution is an insult to God. None of us are glorifed apes, though many behave like them.
 Quoting: VRWil 1189609


there is only one god. yes this is true.

this means that there is only one YOU. Everybody is unique.
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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Re: What if Creation and Evolution coexist. What if there are two groups of people on the earth.
God created evil. If he didn't who did?
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God created evil. If he didn't who did?
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god did not created evil. man created evil.

God let it live, because he knows that all new creations must start at the bottom of the frequencies.

from - to +. if you want. terminating evil, would instorate fear in the people mind and fear is the tool of fearful gods.

would you rather have a god that is feared or a god that is loved?

also assuming on god laws. We are the creator of Evil, so it is our duty to take care of it.

as much as we can call for help, we must do the very best of what we can do right now to be worthy of receiving any help at all.

so far help might be comming considering how much of the world is living in third world status for so long.

what ever those beings would be they would not come to help those that does not help themselves. in short they would not come to help americains, europeans or any developped contries.

they woud first come for the ruthlessly oppressed ones, then would move up the ladder.

if you do everything you feel you can do, including taking high risks. Then you are worthy of being helped.

Last Edited by Blitz the storm-striker on 08/20/2012 10:30 AM
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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There's only one God, and he doesn't make mistakes, which evolution suggests. Evolution is an insult to God. None of us are glorifed apes, though many behave like them.
 Quoting: VRWil 1189609



What if there are glorifed apes. And God could have created them by evolution to interact with His created children to bring about their growth. Evil creates the machinism for change.
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Re: What if Creation and Evolution coexist. What if there are two groups of people on the earth.
God created evil. If he didn't who did?
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god did not created evil. man created evil.

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Who created man?
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The euros are the ape decendants, they were the ones that proposed the theory in the first place.

The rest of us came from Adam and Eve
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God created evil. If he didn't who did?
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god did not created evil. man created evil.

 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


Who created man?
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who do you think?

the thoughts of man are older then this universe!

the man bodies on earth are created from seeds sent from the sun to the carbon base ecosystem. Mothers worlds.

Terra is our pure genetic mother and the sun is where the thoughts of humans came from.

our sun is only a shard of the universe expression of life! (or can i say god soul shard)

and we are only a shard of the sun!

read my previous post i updated it a lot.

Last Edited by Blitz the storm-striker on 08/20/2012 10:37 AM
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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The euros are the ape decendants, they were the ones that proposed the theory in the first place.

The rest of us came from Adam and Eve
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what do you think the adam and EVE significate?

the divine masculine and divine feminine.

it's the side of the brain. it's the body and the soul.

it's the concept of duality. wich is there only so that we learn to live with each another.

if you can't live with others, then how can you live with yourself!
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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God created evil. If he didn't who did?
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god did not created evil. man created evil.

 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


Who created man?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21255432


who do you think?

the thoughts of man are older then this universe!

the man bodies on earth are created from seeds sent from the sun to the carbon base ecosystem. Mothers worlds.

Terra is our pure genetic mother and the sun is where the thoughts of humans came from.

our sun is only a shard of the universe expression of life! (or can i say god soul shard)

and we are only a shard of the sun!

read my previous post i updated it a lot.
 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


Ok, by who's standard then does man remove the evil from this world.

Referencing God by Mother or Father really serves no purpose but only to define the religion you follow. God is Spirit and no one knows what that really means. Could be a Sun, we could all be seeds from that sun, what does it matter. But, the point in all this is that there might be beings here who have been put here as vessels of destruction that have a purpose to help the children of God grow. And then there are some here who will not grow accept physically based on the laws of evolution.

To try and class everyone the same might be the problem. Maybe there are distinctions and to understand that we may not be all the same might be the beginning of understanding.

However, judgement is a two edged sword.
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division of thought is the most basic form of control of knowledge.

Once logic and creativity makes one instead of being 2 different thoughts pattern, then you begin to see the whole picture.


creativity allows one to create freely.

Evolution allows that creation to perfectionise itself. Self updating.

also Evolution can be deceiphered as such.

EVOL ution.

u = you phonetically speaking.

Tion = deffining an action, a mouvment, a constant CHANGE.

Evol = Love backward.

evol ution = Changing, moving, towards, unto, Love!

Evol u tion = changing you unto love.
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Nice thanks.
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god did not created evil. man created evil.

 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


Who created man?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21255432


who do you think?

the thoughts of man are older then this universe!

the man bodies on earth are created from seeds sent from the sun to the carbon base ecosystem. Mothers worlds.

Terra is our pure genetic mother and the sun is where the thoughts of humans came from.

our sun is only a shard of the universe expression of life! (or can i say god soul shard)

and we are only a shard of the sun!

read my previous post i updated it a lot.
 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


Ok, by who's standard then does man remove the evil from this world.

Referencing God by Mother or Father really serves no purpose but only to define the religion you follow. God is Spirit and no one knows what that really means. Could be a Sun, we could all be seeds from that sun, what does it matter. But, the point in all this is that there might be beings here who have been put here as vessels of destruction that have a purpose to help the children of God grow. And then there are some here who will not grow accept physically based on the laws of evolution.

To try and class everyone the same might be the problem. Maybe there are distinctions and to understand that we may not be all the same might be the beginning of understanding.

However, judgement is a two edged sword.
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i fallow no religion. it is religions that makes you believe i fallow them.

religion deceiphered =

Rel i gion (g ion)
Gion = action, mouvment,change defined by G as Group or entity.

i = what i am, what i base my purpose of being from.

rel = real phoneticaly close. Reality, definition of what is that you beleive. (can also be seen as reel which means to attract, conform to. Also can be about relying on!

Rel i Gion = (G) influenced mouvment,change that become the Purpose of your Reality.

see illusion next to get a good description of Rel i G-ion.

Last Edited by Blitz the storm-striker on 08/20/2012 11:06 AM
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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There's only one God, and he doesn't make mistakes, which evolution suggests. Evolution is an insult to God. None of us are glorifed apes, though many behave like them.
 Quoting: VRWil 1189609



What if there are glorifed apes. And God could have created them by evolution to interact with His created children to bring about their growth. Evil creates the machinism for change.
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Evil is not good, sir, that is contradictory. Unfortunately, evil is an anomaly that obviously changes whatever it affects.
A rusted car once started with a fresh new paint job. Somehow that fresh new paint job sustains a breach that opens the door to this rust. If the rust is left unchecked, it weakens the car's sheet metal skin and spreads, furhter weakening the sheet metal. Holes start to develop, etc.
A freshly painted, well maintained car's ability to stave off rust sits devoid of change, and I belive that's a good thing.

What God created was originally good, and devoid of change, and would've made for a far more desirable living condition than the present unpredictable universe we live in...

So, evil's ability to change thngs is not some sort of justfiable good.
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OP The Bible appears to agree with you.

In the beginning God created Adam and Eve. They had two children Cain and Able. Cain killed Abel. God made Cain leave.


Gen 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, [that] every one that findeth me shall slay me.

Gen 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

Gen 4:16 ¶ And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.


Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch


Wow.. Now I'm really confused. Look at the first quoted verse. Cain was driven off the FACE
of the Earth and made to be a fugitive and a vagabond IN the Eath... what?

Anyway there were more people than just the original family of Adam and Eve. Cain would have had nothing to fear from other people killing him... if there were no other people. Also he was able to find a wife.

But unless the other people are inner earthlings (lol) then by now we are all the same anyway.
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i fallow no religion. it is religions that makes you believe i fallow them.

religion deceiphered =

Rel i gion (g ion)
Gion = action, mouvment,change defined by G as Group or entity.

i = what i am, what i base my purpose of being from.

rel = real phoneticaly close. Reality, definition of what is that you beleive. (can also be seen as reel which means to attract, conform to. Also can be about relying on!

Rel i Gion = (G) influenced mouvment,change that become the Purpose of your Reality.

see illusion next to get a good description of Rel i G-ion.
 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker

what you think of this one :D religion
division of thought is the most basic form of control of knowledge.

Once logic and creativity makes one instead of being 2 different thoughts pattern, then you begin to see the whole picture.


creativity allows one to create freely.

Evolution allows that creation to perfectionise itself. Self updating.

also Evolution can be deceiphered as such.

EVOL ution.

u = you phonetically speaking.

Tion = deffining an action, a mouvment, a constant CHANGE.

Evol = Love backward.

evol ution = Changing, moving, towards, unto, Love!

Evol u tion = changing you unto love.
 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


Nice thanks.
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To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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OP The Bible appears to agree with you.

In the beginning God created Adam and Eve. They had two children Cain and Able. Cain killed Abel. God made Cain leave.


Gen 4:14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, [that] every one that findeth me shall slay me.

Gen 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

Gen 4:16 ¶ And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.


Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch


Wow.. Now I'm really confused. Look at the first quoted verse. Cain was driven off the FACE
of the Earth and made to be a fugitive and a vagabond IN the Eath... what?

Anyway there were more people than just the original family of Adam and Eve. Cain would have had nothing to fear from other people killing him... if there were no other people. Also he was able to find a wife.

But unless the other people are inner earthlings (lol) then by now we are all the same anyway.
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More than that, if you look at Genesis 1:1 through Genesis 2:4a, it appears that God created the world and mankind as animals and is referenced as God and it is labeled as the creation of heavens and earth in Gen 2:4a.

Then Genesis 2:4b, the LORD God created the earth and Heavens, the Garden of Edan. From there the Serpent, animal mankind, deceives the children of God in the Garden, and then the fall.

And at this point, you are correct, we are so intermingled that it is hard to tell, accept from those who can understand the plan of salvation.
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There's only one God, and he doesn't make mistakes, which evolution suggests. Evolution is an insult to God. None of us are glorifed apes, though many behave like them.
 Quoting: VRWil 1189609



What if there are glorifed apes. And God could have created them by evolution to interact with His created children to bring about their growth. Evil creates the machinism for change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21255432


Evil is not good, sir, that is contradictory. Unfortunately, evil is an anomaly that obviously changes whatever it affects.
A rusted car once started with a fresh new paint job. Somehow that fresh new paint job sustains a breach that opens the door to this rust. If the rust is left unchecked, it weakens the car's sheet metal skin and spreads, furhter weakening the sheet metal. Holes start to develop, etc.
A freshly painted, well maintained car's ability to stave off rust sits devoid of change, and I belive that's a good thing.

What God created was originally good, and devoid of change, and would've made for a far more desirable living condition than the present unpredictable universe we live in...

So, evil's ability to change thngs is not some sort of justfiable good.
 Quoting: VRWil 1189609


Question for you, if you decide to climb a mountain, because its there, and you fall off and die. Was the mountain evil? Or was the mountain an obstacle to be overcome?

Evil was created for us to overcome.
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There's only one God, and he doesn't make mistakes, which evolution suggests. Evolution is an insult to God. None of us are glorifed apes, though many behave like them.
 Quoting: VRWil 1189609



What if there are glorifed apes. And God could have created them by evolution to interact with His created children to bring about their growth. Evil creates the machinism for change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21255432


Evil is not good, sir, that is contradictory. Unfortunately, evil is an anomaly that obviously changes whatever it affects.
A rusted car once started with a fresh new paint job. Somehow that fresh new paint job sustains a breach that opens the door to this rust. If the rust is left unchecked, it weakens the car's sheet metal skin and spreads, furhter weakening the sheet metal. Holes start to develop, etc.
A freshly painted, well maintained car's ability to stave off rust sits devoid of change, and I belive that's a good thing.

What God created was originally good, and devoid of change, and would've made for a far more desirable living condition than the present unpredictable universe we live in...

So, evil's ability to change thngs is not some sort of justfiable good.
 Quoting: VRWil 1189609


Question for you, if you decide to climb a mountain, because its there, and you fall off and die. Was the mountain evil? Or was the mountain an obstacle to be overcome?

Evil was created for us to overcome.
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This is more then wrong.
You only fall of because you did not had the will for it.
But its different here on Earth you can have all the will you can get still it will not be possible as you alone can not move mountains
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The euros are the ape decendants, they were the ones that proposed the theory in the first place.

The rest of us came from Adam and Eve
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Most Americans are European descendants.

I know, I know.. Those pesky facts. chuckle
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Re: What if Creation and Evolution coexist. What if there are two groups of people on the earth.
There's only one God, and he doesn't make mistakes, which evolution suggests. Evolution is an insult to God. None of us are glorifed apes, though many behave like them.
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What if there are glorifed apes. And God could have created them by evolution to interact with His created children to bring about their growth. Evil creates the machinism for change.
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Evil is not good, sir, that is contradictory. Unfortunately, evil is an anomaly that obviously changes whatever it affects.
A rusted car once started with a fresh new paint job. Somehow that fresh new paint job sustains a breach that opens the door to this rust. If the rust is left unchecked, it weakens the car's sheet metal skin and spreads, furhter weakening the sheet metal. Holes start to develop, etc.
A freshly painted, well maintained car's ability to stave off rust sits devoid of change, and I belive that's a good thing.

What God created was originally good, and devoid of change, and would've made for a far more desirable living condition than the present unpredictable universe we live in...

So, evil's ability to change thngs is not some sort of justfiable good.
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Question for you, if you decide to climb a mountain, because its there, and you fall off and die. Was the mountain evil? Or was the mountain an obstacle to be overcome?

Evil was created for us to overcome.
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Evil was not created for us, as we are at fault for its presence.
Yes, God can use anything for a greater good, so he cursed the ground (Gen 3:17) so that our sin can ultimately lead us to him. Unfortunately, the fall did happen, so it would be more evil to abolish evil, as evil can ultimately lead us to God.
God did not create evil, he created the possibility that comes with choice. True morality is having the ability to choose a moral (or immoral) path. Just as true love is having the abiltiy (or choice) not to love.
We can't overcome evil, so God sent his only begotten son to overcome it for us (John 3:16)...
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08/20/2012 12:55 PM
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What if there are glorifed apes. And God could have created them by evolution to interact with His created children to bring about their growth. Evil creates the machinism for change.
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Evil is not good, sir, that is contradictory. Unfortunately, evil is an anomaly that obviously changes whatever it affects.
A rusted car once started with a fresh new paint job. Somehow that fresh new paint job sustains a breach that opens the door to this rust. If the rust is left unchecked, it weakens the car's sheet metal skin and spreads, furhter weakening the sheet metal. Holes start to develop, etc.
A freshly painted, well maintained car's ability to stave off rust sits devoid of change, and I belive that's a good thing.

What God created was originally good, and devoid of change, and would've made for a far more desirable living condition than the present unpredictable universe we live in...

So, evil's ability to change thngs is not some sort of justfiable good.
 Quoting: VRWil 1189609


Question for you, if you decide to climb a mountain, because its there, and you fall off and die. Was the mountain evil? Or was the mountain an obstacle to be overcome?

Evil was created for us to overcome.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21255432

Evil was not created for us, as we are at fault for its presence.
Yes, God can use anything for a greater good, so he cursed the ground (Gen 3:17) so that our sin can ultimately lead us to him. Unfortunately, the fall did happen, so it would be more evil to abolish evil, as evil can ultimately lead us to God.
God did not create evil, he created the possibility that comes with choice. True morality is having the ability to choose a moral (or immoral) path. Just as true love is having the abiltiy (or choice) not to love.
We can't overcome evil, so God sent his only begotten son to overcome it for us (John 3:16)...
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The answer to your other question regarding the mountain. and evil, is that it's not the mountain that's evil, it is death that is evil.
This is precisely why Jesus conquered death, so that we don't have to fear it anymore.

This is why I am baffled by an athiest who refuses to hupe for the eternal life that Jesus promised us. Hope is simply things unseen, but hoped for...we are saved by hope (Romans 8:24).

At the end of the day, if you don't have hope, you have nothing....
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Re: What if Creation and Evolution coexist. What if there are two groups of people on the earth.
Not Evolution. Adaptability. We didnt evolve from apes (well, not all of us), but we do have the ability to adapt our lifestyles to survive changing situations.

And yes, this might include physical things such as color of skin, body hair, etc...

200,000 years ago, man may have had 6 toes and might have been 12 feet tall. Conditions changed and we grew shorter and lost a toe.

Doesnt mean we evolved from a fish.
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Re: What if Creation and Evolution coexist. What if there are two groups of people on the earth.
Not Evolution. Adaptability. We didnt evolve from apes (well, not all of us), but we do have the ability to adapt our lifestyles to survive changing situations.

And yes, this might include physical things such as color of skin, body hair, etc...

200,000 years ago, man may have had 6 toes and might have been 12 feet tall. Conditions changed and we grew shorter and lost a toe.

Doesnt mean we evolved from a fish.
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You are somewhat correct, as micro-evolution is provable, as well as natural selection.
Your immune system developing an immunity to a disease is a good example of micro-evolution.
Now, as for macro-evoltion, it has never been proven. You can mate two differnt animals, and coe up with hybrid, but never a totally different species. This is a simplified example, but any geneticist worth his salt is aware of genetic barriers that prevent one species of animals becomeing an altogether different animal.

I just take exception to your 200,000 year old man losing toes to adapt to his environment. Our earth is at best 7000 years old, and God made us just the way we are now.
No evidence of a very old earth exsist. Last I checked, time destroys (entropy).
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Re: What if Creation and Evolution coexist. What if there are two groups of people on the earth.
There's no "what if's" to this question. There is the creator God who created everything and that's it. And just for the record, the last time I visited our local zoo, apes are still having apes and monkeys are still having monkeys... shouldn't they be plopping out humans by now? People who believe the "theory" of evolution seriously have some screws loose!
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Re: What if Creation and Evolution coexist. What if there are two groups of people on the earth.
Not Evolution. Adaptability. We didnt evolve from apes (well, not all of us), but we do have the ability to adapt our lifestyles to survive changing situations.

And yes, this might include physical things such as color of skin, body hair, etc...

200,000 years ago, man may have had 6 toes and might have been 12 feet tall. Conditions changed and we grew shorter and lost a toe.

Doesnt mean we evolved from a fish.
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Not only that, there was no 200,000 years ago. The geocolumn and big bang theories have all been discredited. The age of the earth is just as the Bible says looking at actual evidence. This of course is highly CENSORED from the state schools and MSM.

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