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GOP REP. LOSES IT: 'LEGITIMATE RAPE' VICTIMS RARELY GET PREGNANT

 
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Should read "illegitimate" "legitimate"
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Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) justified his extreme opposition to abortion by claiming that victims of "legitimate rape" rarely get pregnant.

In an interview with KTVI-TV on Sunday, the GOP Senate nominee was asked if he supported abortion in the case of rape.

"From what I understand from doctors, that's really rare," said Akin said of pregnancy caused by rape. "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let's assume maybe that didn't work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist."

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1021590


IMO this is a form of fantasy justification, much like the pedo who thinks "that six year old is coming on to me". These kind of crimes creates mental illness that causes people to think (and in this case, say) things that most reasonable people would consider outside the realm of normal. It could be that he's saying it merely for political gain (?) with his base, I'd bet though that there's some long hidden secret in his family's past where they have institutionalized this crazy notion. To him it seems perfectly normal that chaste women are protected by "secretions". I'm sure he has no idea how preposterous he sounds to people who don't engage in fantasy justification.
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Takes a real "Christian" to say such horrible stuff. You can't rationalize insanity until you are "born again."
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Seems he is refering to women who are actually raped, and not somebody who makes a false claim of being raped, i.e. shame,adultery,etc... obviously the latter group is much smaller, maybe even insignificant. But to pretend that the second group doesn't exist would be stupid. Maybe someone else can elaborate, but it should be obvious that in some cases of "legitamate" rape the trauma would lead to physiological effects that would possibly prevent conception. Similar to what might happen after any other physical or mental trauma. To pretend that he meant something else is dishonest and stupid...
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Seems he is refering to women who are actually raped, and not somebody who makes a false claim of being raped, i.e. shame,adultery,etc... obviously the latter group is much smaller, maybe even insignificant. But to pretend that the second group doesn't exist would be stupid. Maybe someone else can elaborate, but it should be obvious that in some cases of "legitamate" rape the trauma would lead to physiological effects that would possibly prevent conception. Similar to what might happen after any other physical or mental trauma. To pretend that he meant something else is dishonest and stupid...
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If it's obvious, as you say, then what are these physiological effects? Could you name one?
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Seems he is refering to women who are actually raped, and not somebody who makes a false claim of being raped, i.e. shame,adultery,etc... obviously the latter group is much smaller, maybe even insignificant. But to pretend that the second group doesn't exist would be stupid. Maybe someone else can elaborate, but it should be obvious that in some cases of "legitamate" rape the trauma would lead to physiological effects that would possibly prevent conception. Similar to what might happen after any other physical or mental trauma. To pretend that he meant something else is dishonest and stupid...
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If it's obvious, as you say, then what are these physiological effects? Could you name one?
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I've yet to see any repuke step up and say which rape baby they would adopt?

This idiot Akin speaks volumes about the repuke party of thieves and criminals.
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I bet if it was someone close to him he would think different!
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It terrifies me that a group of old white men believe that the government should have lawful ownership of a woman's body. Especially a group of old white men who say they want less government. It terrifies me that they think a actually rapist has more rights than the victim. It terrifies me that they are now saying there is a legitamate rape and an illigetimate rape, as if there is a form of rape that's acceptable. It terrifies me that these men are so totally ignorant of the biology of a woman's body but they want to dictate woman's health decisions. I fear for the women in this country. It is one step closer to the Taliban and "The Handmaiden's Tale."

Any woman who votes for these freaks is voting for the destruction of her own voice and all those women that follow her.
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I think "legitimate rape" does not mean rightful, righteous rape but "true rape" instead of falsely claimed rape.
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Notice I said "some" and " possibly". It could be any number of physiological effects. Anything that shocks or causes trauma to their body. Similar to women not menstrating in concentration camps, or world class athletes. But go ahead and dismiss my point completely since I'm not a medical expert and my opinion isn't liberal. Go ahead and justify using abortion as birth control if you wish. That's your right. I wouldn't do so myself... This whole nonsense is an attempt to make something out of nothing. Typical liberal hysteria...
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Notice I said "some" and " possibly". It could be any number of physiological effects. Anything that shocks or causes trauma to their body. Similar to women not menstrating in concentration camps, or world class athletes. But go ahead and dismiss my point completely since I'm not a medical expert and my opinion isn't liberal. Go ahead and justify using abortion as birth control if you wish. That's your right. I wouldn't do so myself... This whole nonsense is an attempt to make something out of nothing. Typical liberal hysteria...
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Honey, I've been paying taxes my whole life for a war machine I have no use for and condemn on a regular basis. When you have to start paying taxes to pay for abortions you don't approve of, then you can start whining about how nobody cares about your opinion. Until then, here's a crying towel. Buck up.

Typical conservative selfishness.
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I personally don't care what a woman does one way or the other as I've already stated. Lets stick to the issue at hand. My point is still valid, and nobody has or will be able to prove it wrong. Don't see how that is being selfish. Divert from the issue at hand, employ name calling, typical liberals...
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What he said is true though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18564805

The confusion is merely over his awkward use of the word legitimate. He meant genuine, and should have used the clearer term assault rape.

But he is correct that pregnancy rarely results from genuine assault rape in our society.
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I personally caannot believe that at conception a group of devising cells constitutes a baby.
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It's not a matter of "belief," but scientific fact. The union of a human sperm and ovum creates a new member of the human species, period.

Please take Biology 101.
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I personally don't care what a woman does one way or the other as I've already stated. Lets stick to the issue at hand. My point is still valid, and nobody has or will be able to prove it wrong. Don't see how that is being selfish. Divert from the issue at hand, employ name calling, typical liberals...
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Name calling? Are you referring to me asking you to "name" a medical fact to explain your voodoo factiod, or were you talking about "typical conservative selfishness", which was a play on your "typical liberal hysteria"?

Fail either way, of course.








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What he said is true though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18564805

The confusion is merely over his awkward use of the word legitimate. He meant genuine, and should have used the clearer term assault rape.

But he is correct that pregnancy rarely results from genuine assault rape in our society.
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


It's called the morning after pill. This nutcase prolly wants to outlaw that, too.
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I just want to know how this magical female body pushes the magic button ... Legitimate Rape vs. the, what, You Asked for It Rape?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15716344

The two alternatives being discussed here are:

- Genuine assault rape, which is what most people mean by the word rape.

- A false claim of rape in order to obtain funding, sympathy, or other benefits. Feminist organizations routinely advise women to use this deception.
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Skeptic, thats the gist of it. I don't think anybody would claim that any form of rape, violence, or harm of another person would ever be legitamate. He simply used a poor choice of words off the cuff..
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Because statistics show that unwanted babies - especially those from rape - are more often than not neglected.
 Quoting: ExoPoliChick

Only when liberals persuade the mother to raise the baby herself. The sensible alternative is to encourage the mother to place the baby for adoption. The waiting list of couples wanting to adopt is very long, and such couples are most eager to provide a loving home for an "unwanted" baby.

Needless to say, the shocking suggestion that "this baby may someday be unhappy, so let's kill him now" is not only murderous but very literally Nazi.

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It terrifies me that a group of old white men believe that the government should have lawful ownership of a woman's body.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1524337

You have flunked Biology 101, please re-take.

The union of a human sperm and ovum creates a new member of the human species.
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I fear for the women in this country.
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I fear for the children of this country, when so many parents want to hire a killer to murder their own children.
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I've yet to see any repuke step up and say which rape baby they would adopt?
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The waiting list of couples wanting to adopt a baby is very long.

Only a vicious child-hater would call an innocent child a "rape baby."
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Here's your medical fact:
Not every single unprotected consensual sexual encounter results in a pregnancy does it? Not by a longshot, due to too many variables to go over. So natuarally the same would hold true for victims of rape.

So regardless of his verbage and poor choice of words, his statement is technically and medically true. Get over it...
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Nothing compares to Democrats. They are far worse.

[link to washingtonexaminer.com]
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bump
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What he said is true though. Why are you ladies getting so neurotic over a medical fact?
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The truth is always lost to the kneejerk reaction of libtard insanity. As soon as the term "legitimate rape" is uttered, the libtard brain shuts down and contemplates nothing further. What the man said is factually accurate, as are most statements that challenge the PC orthodoxy. You can see here that the negative comments here are all entirely emotion-based, not intellectual.
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As measured against all reported rapes, the incidence of conception resulting from rape IS extremely rare.
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What a scumbag! redface
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Now representing the Republican Party... a Mormon, an Ayn Rand atheist disciple, and a rape apologist. And it's all on video/You Tube/no Etch-a-Sketch possible.

Somebody's got to be saying WTF ... how did this happen?
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A Mormon? And I should be worried because of? It certainly can't be any worse than being conned by the current kenyan marxist/fascist narcissistic prick in the WH.

Ayn Rand atheist? I don't have a problem with Ayn Rand's philosophy and since when did liberals concern themselves with atheism? I thought being an atheist was the way to go for you yahoo's. Liberals can't stand God's teaching because they despise the concept of self-control and morality.

A rape apologist? So not agreeing with abortion/murder of the innocent is "extreme"? Liberals are sick mother fuckers. It's an absolute fact that abortion being performed on "rape" victims is approximately 1% of the 42 million abortions/murders committed annually. Abortion/murder of the innocent has become birth control for the sorry, irresponsible fucks in the world than can't keep their genitals in their pants.
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Now representing the Republican Party... a Mormon, an Ayn Rand atheist disciple, and a rape apologist. And it's all on video/You Tube/no Etch-a-Sketch possible.

Somebody's got to be saying WTF ... how did this happen?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15716344


A Mormon? And I should be worried because of? It certainly can't be any worse than being conned by the current kenyan marxist/fascist narcissistic prick in the WH.

Ayn Rand atheist? I don't have a problem with Ayn Rand's philosophy and since when did liberals concern themselves with atheism? I thought being an atheist was the way to go for you yahoo's. Liberals can't stand God's teaching because they despise the concept of self-control and morality.

A rape apologist? So not agreeing with abortion/murder of the innocent is "extreme"? Liberals are sick mother fuckers. It's an absolute fact that abortion being performed on "rape" victims is approximately 1% of the 42 million abortions/murders committed annually. Abortion/murder of the innocent has become birth control for the sorry, irresponsible fucks in the world than can't keep their genitals in their pants.
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1% of 42,000,000 is 420,000 pregnancies from rape. A few more than Akin figgers.












Geez, they passed legislation for partial birth abortions, which covered about 20 cases a year.
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america is fucjed. you guys are so polarized in perspectives. all the blue states should join canada. all the red states should firm their country called jesusland.

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