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Medicare And My Mother

 
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As of August 1st, Medicare drastically cut their covered services. As reported on the news, BILLIONS of dollars have been removed from the Medicare fund, and used for obamacare.

Here is how it affects my mother;

My mother is 89, and doing pretty good overall until earlier this year. She had a pacemaker put in, and subsequently developed congestive heart failure. She is now on oxygen 24/7. She probably only has 1-2 years left max, maybe less, because of the congestive heart failure. As of August 1st, her medicare coverage was drastically reduced, as it was also for millions of other people. She previously had a Therapist come in 1 day a week, a Nurse 2 days a week for a couple of hours, and a Home Health Aid for 2 hours, 2 days a week.Due to the medicare cuts, all she has now is the Nurse for 1 hour once a week, and the Home Health Aid for 2 hours, once a week. Myself, and one of my older brothers live relatively close by. We stop by frequently to her home(yes, she still lives in her own home), and check on her, cut the grass, rake the leaves, trim the bushes, take out garbage,do her laundry, etc.
We really depended on the medical professionals to fill in the gaps, and now they have been taken away almost entirely. We are in a horrible situation.My mother is deteriorating, refuses to live with anyone, and her medical help is down to almost nothing.
Financially, no one can really afford to hire a full time person to stay with my mother. Thanks to obamacare and the raid of the medicare fund, we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. We cannot afford to hire someone to stay with her full time. We do not want to put her in a nursing home, as there is no doubt she will not last there longer than a couple of months. IF we put her in a nursing home, medicaid would kick in and cover it, after we sold her house and the proceeds of the sale were used up. She doesn't want to leave her home.
I wonder how many other children of the elderly are now in the same situation as us?
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I feel for you, I had posted here about what my mother in law was told when she had to be admitted back into the hospital two days after the upholding of obama care, she was told by her drs that the treatments she had covered only 2 weeks before were now not covered by medicare and she would have to pay for the treatments if she wanted to get them. She three weeks later died in the hospital. she was 68 and a huge drain on medicare so i am sure you can fill in the blanks. I wanted in my post to let people know that they too will soon know someone effected by this obama/romney insurance written "healthcare" All I can say is try your best to keep her out of the hospital. i dont know how to link it but my post was "all ready feeling the effects of obama care in california"
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sell your mothers house, and build a room on your house for her. Take care of her.

It's not the governments problem to take care of your family.

Whats wrong with people.

I know people in my church who have taken eldery people to live in their home to help them out. Until they are too sick to live at home or are a danger (starting fires or leaving to freeze to death outside) to themselves or children in your home, YOU should take care of your family.

Thats what life is all about.
Taking care of each other.

Take care of your mother.
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I agree and encourage you to do just this OP. hf
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Take from Peter to pay Paul.
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Exactly, they shouldn't be taking money out of my taxes for Medicare or Obama care. She should just move in with him. If he can't afford it, why do I have to pay for it?
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Thank you for posting THE TRUTH...

NBC / CBS / ABC / MSNBC will NEVER REPROT THESE STORIES... becuase they are taking THAT TIME to Question a RICH MAN about his IRS TAX RATE of 13% on INVESTEMTS.... money that he had ALREADY PAID TAXES on once.

mean while... EVERY THING about OBama is NOT checked out... none of his LIES are called on.

Too many STUPID people will RE-ELECT this LIAR in chief.

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As of August 1st, Medicare drastically cut their covered services. As reported on the news, BILLIONS of dollars have been removed from the Medicare fund, and used for obamacare.

Here is how it affects my mother;

My mother is 89, and doing pretty good overall until earlier this year. She had a pacemaker put in, and subsequently developed congestive heart failure. She is now on oxygen 24/7. She probably only has 1-2 years left max, maybe less, because of the congestive heart failure. As of August 1st, her medicare coverage was drastically reduced, as it was also for millions of other people. She previously had a Therapist come in 1 day a week, a Nurse 2 days a week for a couple of hours, and a Home Health Aid for 2 hours, 2 days a week.Due to the medicare cuts, all she has now is the Nurse for 1 hour once a week, and the Home Health Aid for 2 hours, once a week. Myself, and one of my older brothers live relatively close by. We stop by frequently to her home(yes, she still lives in her own home), and check on her, cut the grass, rake the leaves, trim the bushes, take out garbage,do her laundry, etc.
We really depended on the medical professionals to fill in the gaps, and now they have been taken away almost entirely. We are in a horrible situation.My mother is deteriorating, refuses to live with anyone, and her medical help is down to almost nothing.
Financially, no one can really afford to hire a full time person to stay with my mother. Thanks to obamacare and the raid of the medicare fund, we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. We cannot afford to hire someone to stay with her full time. We do not want to put her in a nursing home, as there is no doubt she will not last there longer than a couple of months. IF we put her in a nursing home, medicaid would kick in and cover it, after we sold her house and the proceeds of the sale were used up. She doesn't want to leave her home.
I wonder how many other children of the elderly are now in the same situation as us?
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i,m sorry what is happening to your family.it's become horrendous what is going on over here,people assume they will be cared for if they get ill,the lucky ones do,but they are leaving the helpless ones with no family or lawyers to die.i stupidly thought they'd be decent people helping the sickest,but it costs too much.
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I have the feeling that this story will be repeated over and over again in the next coming year. Thanks obama.

Good luck to you and best wishes to your mom. hf
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sell your mothers house, and build a room on your house for her. Take care of her.

It's not the governments problem to take care of your family.

Whats wrong with people.

I know people in my church who have taken eldery people to live in their home to help them out. Until they are too sick to live at home or are a danger (starting fires or leaving to freeze to death outside) to themselves or children in your home, YOU should take care of your family.

Thats what life is all about.
Taking care of each other.

Take care of your mother.
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You must not have ever taken care of a sick, elderly parent in your home. You know nothing about what is involved. It is hard, demanding work with no real breaks and little money to help and great frustration about how your hands are tied to get anything accomplished regarding their care.

My Mom is on Hospice and lives here with my spouse and me. She is not nearly as bad off as many people but her life and ours is no bed of roses petals. She is too weak to walk from anyplace other than from her recliner to the bathroom. She can't use a wheelchair or lie in a bed because of the location of her tumor and has also has back pain. Because of some undiagnosed mouth/taste disorder, she can only drink her food.

Hospice sends out a nurse for 20 minutes once a week, a massage therapist once a week for pain management and an aide 2 times per week for bed baths. Plus she gets pain medicine from Hospice. Good luck getting much of any other medicine that might help unless you diagnose an issue and fight for the medicine. The aides are often 1-4 hours off the regularly scheduled time, so you can't plan any activity on those days because you have to wait around for them. Hospice won't address her mouth issue, they won't address anything other than wanting to pump her full of pain medicine. Had to wait 2 years before a dietitian (not a nutritionist) was offered up to assist us in getting enough calories into her. You have to beg for a blood draw or any activity to check her status.

They even refused to transport her to the ER in an ambulette due to some unknown source of bleeding. They would transport her around to 3-5 different doctors to try and figure out the problem but not the hospital. She's terminal and not well enough to be dragged around to x number of doctors!

For all this Hospice gets around $4,500 from the U.S. government per month and we, the primary caregivers get nothing. I could have much better care for my Mom (and real breaks for the family) if I had even half of the money Hospice siphons off the the gov't for their apathetic care. They should at a minimum offer up one 24-hour period of respite twice per month at the patient's home so the family can get out and get a break but not - they are money grabbers and plain don't care.

It is all a game, the big corporations (even non-profits) and charities, etc. have PAC's where they get the gov't to pay big bucks for care yet there is no accountability and the care sucks!
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I feel for your family Tiger...

Is there a way she can move in with you or a sibling? Does she have any other health issues other than CHF? Have you tried calling like a center for the aging or such?

I took my grandfather in to live with me till he passed. Was the only choice we had outside of a nursing home... Which Was never gonna happen. It actually was a wonderful thing. He became more alive being around my kids. And my kids loved to listen to his stories.

Best of luck for all of you.
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She refuses to live with anyone. She is also almost totally deaf, and legally blind. No one can help, unless we have the money to pay for it. There are no free services out there.
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I've heard this about a lot of elderly. Your choices are to live with her or force her to live with one of the kids. If she can't care for herself than she really shouldn't be living alone. Think what would happen if there was a fire and she got confused and locked herself in the bathroom thinking she could beat the heat. It's happened.
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Unfortunately care costs money. As sad as it is someone has to pay for it. I'm 63 and do NOT and I don't expect anyone to pay the many thousands of dollars it may take to care provide medical care for me over the next 20 years. The money is just not there. We need to wake up and realize all the promises governments made us are all lies that rendered us impotent and helpless. There is no free lunch. Whether it's obamacare or romneycare the system us not sustainable.

As of August 1st, Medicare drastically cut their covered services. As reported on the news, BILLIONS of dollars have been removed from the Medicare fund, and used for obamacare.

Here is how it affects my mother;

My mother is 89, and doing pretty good overall until earlier this year. She had a pacemaker put in, and subsequently developed congestive heart failure. She is now on oxygen 24/7. She probably only has 1-2 years left max, maybe less, because of the congestive heart failure. As of August 1st, her medicare coverage was drastically reduced, as it was also for millions of other people. She previously had a Therapist come in 1 day a week, a Nurse 2 days a week for a couple of hours, and a Home Health Aid for 2 hours, 2 days a week.Due to the medicare cuts, all she has now is the Nurse for 1 hour once a week, and the Home Health Aid for 2 hours, once a week. Myself, and one of my older brothers live relatively close by. We stop by frequently to her home(yes, she still lives in her own home), and check on her, cut the grass, rake the leaves, trim the bushes, take out garbage,do her laundry, etc.
We really depended on the medical professionals to fill in the gaps, and now they have been taken away almost entirely. We are in a horrible situation.My mother is deteriorating, refuses to live with anyone, and her medical help is down to almost nothing.
Financially, no one can really afford to hire a full time person to stay with my mother. Thanks to obamacare and the raid of the medicare fund, we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. We cannot afford to hire someone to stay with her full time. We do not want to put her in a nursing home, as there is no doubt she will not last there longer than a couple of months. IF we put her in a nursing home, medicaid would kick in and cover it, after we sold her house and the proceeds of the sale were used up. She doesn't want to leave her home.
I wonder how many other children of the elderly are now in the same situation as us?
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Unfortunately care costs money. As sad as it is someone has to pay for it. I'm 63 and do NOT and I don't expect anyone to pay the many thousands of dollars it may take to care provide medical care for me over the next 20 years. The money is just not there. We need to wake up and realize all the promises governments made us are all lies that rendered us impotent and helpless. There is no free lunch. Whether it's obamacare or romneycare the system us not sustainable.

As of August 1st, Medicare drastically cut their covered services. As reported on the news, BILLIONS of dollars have been removed from the Medicare fund, and used for obamacare.

Here is how it affects my mother;

My mother is 89, and doing pretty good overall until earlier this year. She had a pacemaker put in, and subsequently developed congestive heart failure. She is now on oxygen 24/7. She probably only has 1-2 years left max, maybe less, because of the congestive heart failure. As of August 1st, her medicare coverage was drastically reduced, as it was also for millions of other people. She previously had a Therapist come in 1 day a week, a Nurse 2 days a week for a couple of hours, and a Home Health Aid for 2 hours, 2 days a week.Due to the medicare cuts, all she has now is the Nurse for 1 hour once a week, and the Home Health Aid for 2 hours, once a week. Myself, and one of my older brothers live relatively close by. We stop by frequently to her home(yes, she still lives in her own home), and check on her, cut the grass, rake the leaves, trim the bushes, take out garbage,do her laundry, etc.
We really depended on the medical professionals to fill in the gaps, and now they have been taken away almost entirely. We are in a horrible situation.My mother is deteriorating, refuses to live with anyone, and her medical help is down to almost nothing.
Financially, no one can really afford to hire a full time person to stay with my mother. Thanks to obamacare and the raid of the medicare fund, we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. We cannot afford to hire someone to stay with her full time. We do not want to put her in a nursing home, as there is no doubt she will not last there longer than a couple of months. IF we put her in a nursing home, medicaid would kick in and cover it, after we sold her house and the proceeds of the sale were used up. She doesn't want to leave her home.
I wonder how many other children of the elderly are now in the same situation as us?
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COMPLETELY DISAGREE!! The money is there just allocated to deadbeats and subsidies for pharmaceuticals and overcharging by hospitals!! The state of Ohio spends $75 Million dollars a year to give free/subsidized cell phones to the poor. I would rather that money be spent on the elderly, most who worked and paid into they system to get medical care. Just add up the millions of $$ for free cell phones by 50 states! And as I pointed out earlier. The gov't/medicare gives hospice between $4,500 and $5,500 per month for a handful of visits to a home -- there is no accountability and the care is fair at best. Give me the even 25% of the monthly allotment and I can go to the healthcare groups that are accountable and get better care.

The money spent on wars and pork, etc. is the problem -- not the elderly.
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This is perhaps the first time en masse that our society has to deal with the care of the elderly in a new and different manner as the WWII generation ages and passes on.

The baby boomer generation who are now caring for this generation are finding that resources are minimal at best. As a nation we have not properly prepared for this phenomena I.e. the financially, emotionally, physically, or psychologically. . On top of the fact that you have many of the WWII generation even at 80+ believing that they are going to live til they are 109 and not preparing for what we all will inevitably face if we live that long.

It is time now to address this issue head on and I am certain it will as the baby boomers come through with their numbers and demand as they are known to do. Your generation was the one that has brought forth many societal changes, actually sometimes for the good of all, don't sit down now. Your not done yet, there is a new life stage that must now be addressed by you. Let's not get into the bipartisan blame game now these issues have long been percolating well since Obama.

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Hard typing on this blasted IPAD. Percolating well before Obama. There fixed it.
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My only question to the politards is why is that when my generation, the x'ers come through, we always have to catch it in the financial shorts, it happened in the 80's with educational cuts where many programs were cut and we got bare bones no frills educational programs and now with future healthcare benefits and social security. It's as if we tend to get a generational Fuck You. What is Ryan thinking?
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As of August 1st, Medicare drastically cut their covered services. As reported on the news, BILLIONS of dollars have been removed from the Medicare fund, and used for obamacare.

Here is how it affects my mother;

My mother is 89, and doing pretty good overall until earlier this year. She had a pacemaker put in, and subsequently developed congestive heart failure. She is now on oxygen 24/7. She probably only has 1-2 years left max, maybe less, because of the congestive heart failure. As of August 1st, her medicare coverage was drastically reduced, as it was also for millions of other people. She previously had a Therapist come in 1 day a week, a Nurse 2 days a week for a couple of hours, and a Home Health Aid for 2 hours, 2 days a week.Due to the medicare cuts, all she has now is the Nurse for 1 hour once a week, and the Home Health Aid for 2 hours, once a week. Myself, and one of my older brothers live relatively close by. We stop by frequently to her home(yes, she still lives in her own home), and check on her, cut the grass, rake the leaves, trim the bushes, take out garbage,do her laundry, etc.
We really depended on the medical professionals to fill in the gaps, and now they have been taken away almost entirely. We are in a horrible situation.My mother is deteriorating, refuses to live with anyone, and her medical help is down to almost nothing.
Financially, no one can really afford to hire a full time person to stay with my mother. Thanks to obamacare and the raid of the medicare fund, we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. We cannot afford to hire someone to stay with her full time. We do not want to put her in a nursing home, as there is no doubt she will not last there longer than a couple of months. IF we put her in a nursing home, medicaid would kick in and cover it, after we sold her house and the proceeds of the sale were used up. She doesn't want to leave her home.
I wonder how many other children of the elderly are now in the same situation as us?
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Sorry for your situation. I can relate.

Took care of my mom (alzheimer's in my home for 5 yrs)after selling hers. She was 88 when she passed this past March.

She did really well with/for us. Ate good, had the run of the house (felt at home) watched tv with us and went out for visits to family and errands with us.

She got a terrible stomach flu and was put in the hospital. At that time, we decided that we were so maxed out emotionally and physically that we'd let her go on to a nursing home from the hospital. I did everything to work with them and to see to it that she would get the help she needed daily...even going up there every day once or twice to feed her.

She was on pain meds as needed (it was tylenol only) but we had also included hospice (seems like it was necessary to actually get her into a home...but I thought it was just to help make sure she was not being abused).

Long story short. She was dead with 2 months. Why? They switched her pain medicine to full strength powerful medicine of some kind without telling us, which stopped her from being able to suck down water or eat. They told us she was just entering the next stage of alzheimer's and was giving up. By the time we figured it out...it was too late.

May Mom forgive me! And God too! My only solace is that she was wanting to go home to be with the Lord.
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It's called "snowing" the patient. they increase the pain med dosage, knowing full well that a sick or elderly body cannot utilize it properly, and theydie from an overdose. This is very common in nursing homes, and in hospice.
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If she didn't had that pacemaker put in, she'd be fine.
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You are correct. I argued over the pacemaker, but the doctor scared her into having it done. She went into congestive heart failure 2 weeks after having the pacemaker put in. She has been on oxygen since then.
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At this point try 600mg a day of Q10. If it doesn't fix the edema. . . You can buy Q10 at Costco they sell 300s so she only needs 2 a day.
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I feel for you, Tiger. Very soon I will be in your shoes with my dad who has CHF. He refuses to live with me or go to a nursing home. I've told him he may not have a choice and he looks me in the eye and says "there is always a choice. All I need is one good day." He is planning to take matters into his own hands if you get my drift. So now I live in fear of THAT happening. I am sick to death of Obama's lies and all the Democrats who point out that the cuts to Medicare were cuts to the providers and not the patients. Like we are ignorant enough to believe that cutting reimbursements to the providers would not affect patient care or services! To those who do not see that Obamacare is one giant step to a single payer system in which health care is rationed for all of us,I truly feel sorry for you. Yes, Romney and Ryan are unknowns, but anything is better than the current administration.
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My heart goes out to you ! This is rough, and it is going to get worse.
I do not like Romney, but Ryan seems like he has intelligence. I will vote for Romney/Ryan. the way I look at it, if I do not like what they are doing in 4 years, I will not give them my vote again.
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As of August 1st, Medicare drastically cut their covered services. As reported on the news, BILLIONS of dollars have been removed from the Medicare fund, and used for obamacare.

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That is COMPLETE AND TOTAL BULLSHIT!

Any 'cuts' have been to INCREASES in the future, NOT to current services or reimbursements.

So you're a FUCKING LIAR!!


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I am telling the truth. You need to lay off that obamakoolaid until your head clears a bit.
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First of all, if your mother is 89 years old she has used many years of services so you have no right to cry about 'cuts'. If you totaled the amount she paid in over the course of her life, she used her up her share 15 years ago. Sounds to me like she is a very bitter,stubborn, and spiteful old bitch by refusing to live with anyone. I would not cater to her. If she wants to be on her own than let her be on her own and 100 percent independant. Make it clear that when she falls on her bitch ass and busts a hip that the option to move in is no longer available.
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My mother was in reasonably good health until she had the pacemaker put in earlier this year. It appears you have some serious mental health issues, as is evident in your posts. I urge you to seek treatment for your extreme hatred and bitterness.
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I'm sorry this happened to you. Hopefully, Romney's voucher plan will work better for your family.
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My mother has a supplemental insurance plan in addition to medicare, that is taking about 1/4 of her income every month. It picks up very little of her medical care, if any.
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I feel badly for OP, but like many others here I believe we need to take care of our own families. None of the oldies in my family were put in nursing homes, their children took care of them.
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First of all, if your mother is 89 years old she has used many years of services so you have no right to cry about 'cuts'. If you totaled the amount she paid in over the course of her life, she used her up her share 15 years ago. Sounds to me like she is a very bitter,stubborn, and spiteful old bitch by refusing to live with anyone. I would not cater to her. If she wants to be on her own than let her be on her own and 100 percent independant. Make it clear that when she falls on her bitch ass and busts a hip that the option to move in is no longer available.
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My mother was in reasonably good health until she had the pacemaker put in earlier this year. It appears you have some serious mental health issues, as is evident in your posts. I urge you to seek treatment for your extreme hatred and bitterness.
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I wouldn't call it extreme hate and anger. Maybe bad language. But that poster is right. Your mom needs a wake up call. She needs to start thinking of you and your siblings and how this is effecting you all. And if all you want to do is complain and feel sorry for yourself then go ahead. But if you want real advice then listen to those of us who are telling you to get tough with your mom and tell her how it NEEDS to be. She either moves in with one of you or you can't keep running over there. She can't have it all her way. That is not nice and not fair.
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As of August 1st, Medicare drastically cut their covered services. As reported on the news, BILLIONS of dollars have been removed from the Medicare fund, and used for obamacare.

Here is how it affects my mother;

My mother is 89, and doing pretty good overall until earlier this year. She had a pacemaker put in, and subsequently developed congestive heart failure. She is now on oxygen 24/7. She probably only has 1-2 years left max, maybe less, because of the congestive heart failure. As of August 1st, her medicare coverage was drastically reduced, as it was also for millions of other people. She previously had a Therapist come in 1 day a week, a Nurse 2 days a week for a couple of hours, and a Home Health Aid for 2 hours, 2 days a week.Due to the medicare cuts, all she has now is the Nurse for 1 hour once a week, and the Home Health Aid for 2 hours, once a week. Myself, and one of my older brothers live relatively close by. We stop by frequently to her home(yes, she still lives in her own home), and check on her, cut the grass, rake the leaves, trim the bushes, take out garbage,do her laundry, etc.
We really depended on the medical professionals to fill in the gaps, and now they have been taken away almost entirely. We are in a horrible situation.My mother is deteriorating, refuses to live with anyone, and her medical help is down to almost nothing.
Financially, no one can really afford to hire a full time person to stay with my mother. Thanks to obamacare and the raid of the medicare fund, we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. We cannot afford to hire someone to stay with her full time. We do not want to put her in a nursing home, as there is no doubt she will not last there longer than a couple of months. IF we put her in a nursing home, medicaid would kick in and cover it, after we sold her house and the proceeds of the sale were used up. She doesn't want to leave her home.
I wonder how many other children of the elderly are now in the same situation as us?
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Yes you understand nursing homes correctly. My mother ended up in one, and it was terrible. Since you know she's coming to the end here anyway, let her die without that. Many would love to have such a long and healthy life as she has had, soon she'll be moving on as we all do.

If necessary put her into a hospice, that might be better. This problem she is having is not something that seems treatable anyway.
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As of August 1st, Medicare drastically cut their covered services. As reported on the news, BILLIONS of dollars have been removed from the Medicare fund, and used for obamacare.

Here is how it affects my mother;

My mother is 89, and doing pretty good overall until earlier this year. She had a pacemaker put in, and subsequently developed congestive heart failure. She is now on oxygen 24/7. She probably only has 1-2 years left max, maybe less, because of the congestive heart failure. As of August 1st, her medicare coverage was drastically reduced, as it was also for millions of other people. She previously had a Therapist come in 1 day a week, a Nurse 2 days a week for a couple of hours, and a Home Health Aid for 2 hours, 2 days a week.Due to the medicare cuts, all she has now is the Nurse for 1 hour once a week, and the Home Health Aid for 2 hours, once a week. Myself, and one of my older brothers live relatively close by. We stop by frequently to her home(yes, she still lives in her own home), and check on her, cut the grass, rake the leaves, trim the bushes, take out garbage,do her laundry, etc.
We really depended on the medical professionals to fill in the gaps, and now they have been taken away almost entirely. We are in a horrible situation.My mother is deteriorating, refuses to live with anyone, and her medical help is down to almost nothing.
Financially, no one can really afford to hire a full time person to stay with my mother. Thanks to obamacare and the raid of the medicare fund, we are stuck between a rock and a hard place. We cannot afford to hire someone to stay with her full time. We do not want to put her in a nursing home, as there is no doubt she will not last there longer than a couple of months. IF we put her in a nursing home, medicaid would kick in and cover it, after we sold her house and the proceeds of the sale were used up. She doesn't want to leave her home.
I wonder how many other children of the elderly are now in the same situation as us?
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I feel for you, I had posted here about what my mother in law was told when she had to be admitted back into the hospital two days after the upholding of obama care, she was told by her drs that the treatments she had covered only 2 weeks before were now not covered by medicare and she would have to pay for the treatments if she wanted to get them. She three weeks later died in the hospital. she was 68 and a huge drain on medicare so i am sure you can fill in the blanks. I wanted in my post to let people know that they too will soon know someone effected by this obama/romney insurance written "healthcare" All I can say is try your best to keep her out of the hospital. i dont know how to link it but my post was "all ready feeling the effects of obama care in california"
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Thanks for sharing. There is more to obamacare than people realize. The target group for unlimited healthcare under obamacare are ages 15-40, who are in otherwise good health. After age 40, there are more and more limits as the age of the patient goes up. After 60, you can just go kiss your dupa goodbye. Under obamacare in the future, an elderly person will be a rare sight.
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sell your mothers house, and build a room on your house for her. Take care of her.

It's not the governments problem to take care of your family.

Whats wrong with people.

I know people in my church who have taken eldery people to live in their home to help them out. Until they are too sick to live at home or are a danger (starting fires or leaving to freeze to death outside) to themselves or children in your home, YOU should take care of your family.

Thats what life is all about.
Taking care of each other.

Take care of your mother.
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You must not have ever taken care of a sick, elderly parent in your home. You know nothing about what is involved. It is hard, demanding work with no real breaks and little money to help and great frustration about how your hands are tied to get anything accomplished regarding their care.

My Mom is on Hospice and lives here with my spouse and me. She is not nearly as bad off as many people but her life and ours is no bed of roses petals. She is too weak to walk from anyplace other than from her recliner to the bathroom. She can't use a wheelchair or lie in a bed because of the location of her tumor and has also has back pain. Because of some undiagnosed mouth/taste disorder, she can only drink her food.

Hospice sends out a nurse for 20 minutes once a week, a massage therapist once a week for pain management and an aide 2 times per week for bed baths. Plus she gets pain medicine from Hospice. Good luck getting much of any other medicine that might help unless you diagnose an issue and fight for the medicine. The aides are often 1-4 hours off the regularly scheduled time, so you can't plan any activity on those days because you have to wait around for them. Hospice won't address her mouth issue, they won't address anything other than wanting to pump her full of pain medicine. Had to wait 2 years before a dietitian (not a nutritionist) was offered up to assist us in getting enough calories into her. You have to beg for a blood draw or any activity to check her status.

They even refused to transport her to the ER in an ambulette due to some unknown source of bleeding. They would transport her around to 3-5 different doctors to try and figure out the problem but not the hospital. She's terminal and not well enough to be dragged around to x number of doctors!

For all this Hospice gets around $4,500 from the U.S. government per month and we, the primary caregivers get nothing. I could have much better care for my Mom (and real breaks for the family) if I had even half of the money Hospice siphons off the the gov't for their apathetic care. They should at a minimum offer up one 24-hour period of respite twice per month at the patient's home so the family can get out and get a break but not - they are money grabbers and plain don't care.

It is all a game, the big corporations (even non-profits) and charities, etc. have PAC's where they get the gov't to pay big bucks for care yet there is no accountability and the care sucks!
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I feel for you. My heart goes out to you. I will pray for you and your family. Hang in there ! You are not alone !hf
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First of all, if your mother is 89 years old she has used many years of services so you have no right to cry about 'cuts'. If you totaled the amount she paid in over the course of her life, she used her up her share 15 years ago. Sounds to me like she is a very bitter,stubborn, and spiteful old bitch by refusing to live with anyone. I would not cater to her. If she wants to be on her own than let her be on her own and 100 percent independant. Make it clear that when she falls on her bitch ass and busts a hip that the option to move in is no longer available.
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My mother was in reasonably good health until she had the pacemaker put in earlier this year. It appears you have some serious mental health issues, as is evident in your posts. I urge you to seek treatment for your extreme hatred and bitterness.
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I wouldn't call it extreme hate and anger. Maybe bad language. But that poster is right. Your mom needs a wake up call. She needs to start thinking of you and your siblings and how this is effecting you all. And if all you want to do is complain and feel sorry for yourself then go ahead. But if you want real advice then listen to those of us who are telling you to get tough with your mom and tell her how it NEEDS to be. She either moves in with one of you or you can't keep running over there. She can't have it all her way. That is not nice and not fair.
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What is not fair, is that her medical care she has paid for is cut, or that my Dad, who paid into the system all of his life, didn't get to use the benefits he paid for. He died at 65.
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I have the feeling that this story will be repeated over and over again in the next coming year. Thanks obama.

Good luck to you and best wishes to your mom. hf
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Thank you, Davvi ! We are taking this one day at a time.
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First of all, if your mother is 89 years old she has used many years of services so you have no right to cry about 'cuts'. If you totaled the amount she paid in over the course of her life, she used her up her share 15 years ago. Sounds to me like she is a very bitter,stubborn, and spiteful old bitch by refusing to live with anyone. I would not cater to her. If she wants to be on her own than let her be on her own and 100 percent independant. Make it clear that when she falls on her bitch ass and busts a hip that the option to move in is no longer available.
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My mother was in reasonably good health until she had the pacemaker put in earlier this year. It appears you have some serious mental health issues, as is evident in your posts. I urge you to seek treatment for your extreme hatred and bitterness.
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No, I am just being a realist. The goverment can no longer support all the needs of the aging population. The funds are not there. It is your responsibility to do this. I owe her nothing. She diapered your ass ass a baby, so it is your turn to diaper hers.
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There is an issue about how much money do we spend on end-of-life care. OP's mother is already considered terminal and in hospice, and now that I realize that (didn't read thru the whole thread) I am not that upset that there are limits on how much is spent on her.

A nearby nursing home currently is under attack by their unionized workers whose union is SEIU. Yes them again. They've had a picket line outside the driveway in there, for months. It would be good to bust up these unions and perhaps nursing homes would become more affordable with better service. Obama will certainly never support THAT though.

I don't want my family to suffer reduced care so that 15-40 year old illegal immigrants continue to get coverage and get even more coverage. If we cut them off and there still isn't enough money, tell me and I'll see reason. But simply, it's our system and we don't want the rules changed now after we've paid into it. It wasn't sold to us as a healthcare system for anyone who manages to sneak across the border.
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I go to work every day at 0300. At 1200 I leave work and go to my mom's house to take care of her until 1845 at night. My other sister takes over from there. As a liberal, I'd like to know how you antisocialist republicans think it is my responsibility to spend my taxes on taking care of your parent. It's not. Sell her house and move her in with you. Use the money to take care of her. I'm sorry for your mom, but really? Really??? You're pissed because Obama is not giving your parent their socialist benefits? How much did your mom pay into Medicare and how much does a pacemaker cost? Honestly? What is it that you expect? If your mom paid $20,000 in Medicare contributions in a life time and she received a $150,000 pacemaker, what do you expect from the government. You hate socialism, and then when you don't get it from the socialist party you hate that too. Let me see.... The party of "drill here drill now" lost billions in the Gulf oil spill... mostly Republican states by the way. What's the problem. The party of "Global warming is a hoax." is getting their asses handed to them, mostly Republican states by the way. You are getting the government you asked for. Man up and move your mom in with you and stop expecting Democrats to give you hand outs! If you despise socialist programs so badly, don't whine when they get cut off and your family pays the cost. It is a good learning opportunity. I really am sorry for your mom. It's too bad you are so opposed to socialized medicine. She will suffer because of voters like you.
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First of all, if your mother is 89 years old she has used many years of services so you have no right to cry about 'cuts'. If you totaled the amount she paid in over the course of her life, she used her up her share 15 years ago. Sounds to me like she is a very bitter,stubborn, and spiteful old bitch by refusing to live with anyone. I would not cater to her. If she wants to be on her own than let her be on her own and 100 percent independant. Make it clear that when she falls on her bitch ass and busts a hip that the option to move in is no longer available.
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My mother was in reasonably good health until she had the pacemaker put in earlier this year. It appears you have some serious mental health issues, as is evident in your posts. I urge you to seek treatment for your extreme hatred and bitterness.
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I wouldn't call it extreme hate and anger. Maybe bad language. But that poster is right. Your mom needs a wake up call. She needs to start thinking of you and your siblings and how this is effecting you all. And if all you want to do is complain and feel sorry for yourself then go ahead. But if you want real advice then listen to those of us who are telling you to get tough with your mom and tell her how it NEEDS to be. She either moves in with one of you or you can't keep running over there. She can't have it all her way. That is not nice and not fair.
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What is not fair, is that her medical care she has paid for is cut, or that my Dad, who paid into the system all of his life, didn't get to use the benefits he paid for. He died at 65.
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We have to stop focusing on what is or is not fair. Nothing has ever been really fair.

We have to focus on reality now. That is all we have.

So start focusing on the now and deal with it and know that it is not going to get better. Your mom needs to understand this because soon she won't have a choice.

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